Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 > I read Rob s story, thinking this guy is very funny, & then I > read your comment. Would love to know how long its taken him to get > so knowledgeable about this stuff? Rob, these documents you quote > from from - are they available on `the net`? I knew very little about my own BPEI (only found out its name when I was 25!) until I had a son 11 years ago who needed some BPEI-related surgery. At that point it suddenly became serious, so I got to work learning what I could, with the help of my wife (formerly a librarian, fortunately). Unfortunately, the technical journal industry is very protective of its expensive intellectual property. I've had very little luck finding full text & picture journal articles on the internet. But the publishers and the medical databases (like Medline/Medscape) allow searches, and provide abstracts (one or two paragraph summaries) and full bibliographic details. Armed with such details, I've been able to go to my local public library or the nearest children's hospital library, and ask them to get copies of the interesting-looking articles through inter-library loan. It's free or has a nominal fee (<$10?) per article, and sometimes the photocopying quality leaves something to be desired, but it's reasonably painless and effective if slow. The online publishers and databases also let people (or sometimes only doctors, who are almost like people) order the articles directly, for a fee of course. Being in Oz I can't really do that, but the USA-based folks out there might be in a better position to try it. The articles, even if written in " English " (ha! More Latin and Greek than English), are usually somewhat incomprehensible to us mere Earthlings. We bought a good medical dictionary (Stedman's, but there are others) and I give it quite a thrashing when trying to decypher the articles. I can then usually make sense of only about 50-60% of the articles, assisted by the gory diagrams and photos. Just enough to get me confused and into trouble. Note also that many of the articles are quite old. Some date from the 1950s & 60s, when the techniques to undo BPEI were still being worked out, as were the clothes & hairstyles. There doesn't appear to have been much published since then in terms of basic BPEI surgical techniques. The more recent articles are more about genetics or summarise the older articles. Then again, I haven't actively looked for journal articles for about 5 years, and that was for entropion/trichiasis repair rather than straight BPEI as such. Enough typing, it's 11:50pm, time for snoozy-bobos. God bless y'all. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 Thank you for the info Rob! > > I don't really get what you just wrote, so you are saying that this > > article quoted that TYPE 1 is more common in males, and usually their > > daughters are not affected by BPES, and TYPE 2 more common in females > > and usually their sons are not affected by BPES???? > > Not quite. It's saying that fathers with type I BPES usually have male > children (most of whom also have BPES), and fathers with type II BPES > usually have female children (most of whom also have BPES). It didn't > say how likely it is for daughters of type I fathers or sons of type II > fathers to be affected. However, it also talked about " ... type I where > there is transmission by males only and affected females are infertile. > In type II ... transmission occurs through both sexes. " > > It doesn't say whether the offspring of either type or sex are (likely > to be) type I or type II. Maybe the full articles or others do. > > > I'd be really interested to see these articles. > > The references are: > > [1] 'Blepharophimosis, ptosis, epicanthus inversus syndrome (BPES > syndrome)'; Oley and Baraitser; Journal of Medical > Genetics 1988 (vol 25), pages 47-51 > > [2] 'The blepharophimosis, ptosis and epicanthus inversus syndrome: > delineation of two types'; J Zlotogora, M Sagi & T Cohen; American > Journal of Human Genetics 1983 (vol 35), pages 1020-1027 > > You might be able to order these through your local library for a modest > fee. I doubt they're available online because (a) they pretty much > pre-date the Interweb thingy, and ( journal publishers are very > protective of their intellectual property; but they might be. We got > some from our nearest childrens hospital's library (info service for > parents) and its genetic counselling service. Some web sites will let > you order technical journal articles like these over the Interweb thingy > (pay over the net, paper articles delivered by mail). A Google search > for the authors and 'blepharophimosis' will find plenty of references to > these and others. > > Rob W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 Rob, I know that articles you refer to because my picture is in the first one! But I wonder, these were written some time ago, and there has been considerable research since then. Are we not better off referring to the article by Elfride De Beare? Shireen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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