Glasses

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Hi Suzanne,

That's a tough one, mainly in the chronic lying part. It's so hard

to get kids to tell the truth sometimes, isn't it? Personally, I would

counter with a little lying of my own, like " I saw you do it " or just

outwit him " You were the only other person in the car " etc.. I know

tactics like that only work about 20% of the time more or less, but it's

what I do with my son from time to time. Plus, the well placed guilt

trip never hurt anyone I know with Aspie kids, you really have to

lay the guilt on thick for it to get through though, so sometimes it's

not worth the effort, but it is another tactic. Maybe offering to take

off some of his punishment if he fesses up. Luckily, my little guy has

never gotten very good at lying but he does try . His father is a

compulsive liar so I have always been very careful not to let him

develop that skill. If you keep calling them on their lies, they will

slowly lose confidence in their ability to do it, at least that's what

has happened in my experience. I really hope he lays off the glasses

though, I know how expensive those are. I hope someone else here can

offer some better advice for you. Take care Suzanne, Tabitha

( ) Glasses

I have an odd question. My AS son broke his glasses in less then a month

from purchase date because he was mad at me. Not a problem he gets to go

without now. His eye sight is 20/20 one eye and 20/40 the other. Well

for

what ever reason on the way to school today he broke his twin brother's

glasses. Now he told the school he didn't do it but he is a chronic

liar,

never does anything wrong. I know it was him, there is not a single

doubt in

my mind. But what do we do? There is not a punishment I can think of

that

would be meaningful to him, except maybe no TV for the rest of his life

And of course that will just make him angry and sneaky. I have replaced

more

glasses in the past couple years then I have owned in my entire life.

I'm

very frustrated and I guess I'm looking for insight. I can't afford to

keep

doing this. Any ideas would be appreciated.

Mom to 8 " wonderful " kids.

Friends are quiet angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have

trouble

remembering how to fly.

No Non-Scents Soaps and Candles

www.nonon-scents.com

http://www.cureautismnow.org/aam

[Guest guest]

Suzanne,

Does your son get an allowance? If so, it seems to me that his

allowance should be signed over to Mom for two or three months to pay

for the glasses. I don't think he'd have to pay for every penny, but

you want to make the point that glasses cost a lot of money, and that

he's going to help pay for them. You could also have him do jobs around

the house and yard to earn money to pay for them.

When was 4, he hid some beautiful shells in his Montessori

classroom. They never re-emerged. I made him bring his allowance, which

was two quarters, in an envelope and give it to his teachers every week

for a month. It wasn't much for his teachers (I reimbursed them), but

it was a lot to . He never ever did anything like that again.

That's all I can think of.

Liz (who has just taken to the optometrist!)

On Apr 10, 2006, at 6:13 AM, Suzanne wrote:

> I have an odd question. My AS son broke his glasses in less then a

> month

> from purchase date because he was mad at me. Not a problem he gets to

> go

> without now. His eye sight is 20/20 one eye and 20/40 the other. Well

> for

> what ever reason on the way to school today he broke his twin brother's

> glasses. Now he told the school he didn't do it but he is a chronic

> liar,

> never does anything wrong. I know it was him, there is not a single

> doubt in

> my mind. But what do we do? There is not a punishment I can think of

> that

> would be meaningful to him, except maybe no TV for the rest of his

> life

> And of course that will just make him angry and sneaky. I have

> replaced more

> glasses in the past couple years then I have owned in my entire life.

> I'm

> very frustrated and I guess I'm looking for insight. I can't afford to

> keep

> doing this. Any ideas would be appreciated.

>

>

>

> Mom to 8 " wonderful " kids.

>

> Friends are quiet angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have

> trouble

> remembering how to fly.

>

> No Non-Scents Soaps and Candles

> www.nonon-scents.com

>

>

> http://www.cureautismnow.org/aam

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Great idea.. And hey this is a great site for charts for chores. IT can

also be great OT for the child.. http://www.chartjungle.com/

Manual dexterity etc.

-- Re: ( ) Glasses

Suzanne,

Does your son get an allowance? If so, it seems to me that his

allowance should be signed over to Mom for two or three months to pay

for the glasses. I don't think he'd have to pay for every penny, but

you want to make the point that glasses cost a lot of money, and that

he's going to help pay for them. You could also have him do jobs around

the house and yard to earn money to pay for them.

When was 4, he hid some beautiful shells in his Montessori

classroom. They never re-emerged. I made him bring his allowance, which

was two quarters, in an envelope and give it to his teachers every week

for a month. It wasn't much for his teachers (I reimbursed them), but

it was a lot to . He never ever did anything like that again.

That's all I can think of.

Liz (who has just taken to the optometrist!)

On Apr 10, 2006, at 6:13 AM, Suzanne wrote:

> I have an odd question. My AS son broke his glasses in less then a

> month

> from purchase date because he was mad at me. Not a problem he gets to

> go

> without now. His eye sight is 20/20 one eye and 20/40 the other. Well

> for

> what ever reason on the way to school today he broke his twin brother's

> glasses. Now he told the school he didn't do it but he is a chronic

> liar,

> never does anything wrong. I know it was him, there is not a single

> doubt in

> my mind. But what do we do? There is not a punishment I can think of

> that

> would be meaningful to him, except maybe no TV for the rest of his

> life

> And of course that will just make him angry and sneaky. I have

> replaced more

> glasses in the past couple years then I have owned in my entire life.

> I'm

> very frustrated and I guess I'm looking for insight. I can't afford to

> keep

> doing this. Any ideas would be appreciated.

>

>

>

> Mom to 8 " wonderful " kids.

>

> Friends are quiet angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have

> trouble

> remembering how to fly.

>

> No Non-Scents Soaps and Candles

> www.nonon-scents.com

>

>

> http://www.cureautismnow.org/aam

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

( ) Glasses

I have an odd question. My AS son broke his glasses in less then a month

from purchase date because he was mad at me. Not a problem he gets to go

without now. His eye sight is 20/20 one eye and 20/40 the other. Well for

what ever reason on the way to school today he broke his twin brother's

glasses. Now he told the school he didn't do it but he is a chronic liar,

never does anything wrong. I know it was him, there is not a single doubt in

my mind. But what do we do? There is not a punishment I can think of that

would be meaningful to him, except maybe no TV for the rest of his life

And of course that will just make him angry and sneaky. I have replaced more

glasses in the past couple years then I have owned in my entire life. I'm

very frustrated and I guess I'm looking for insight. I can't afford to keep

doing this. Any ideas would be appreciated.

Mom to 8 " wonderful " kids.

Friends are quiet angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have trouble

remembering how to fly.

First, you should check into getting your glasses done at JcPenney's or at

Sears. Both have a kids program for glasses that will replace and repair at

little cost to you if the glasses are broken. At least they did a few years

ago!

As for lying, I have found it much easier to just state factoids instead of

asking the kid to tell what he did. People don't really like to

self-incriminate. <G> So I would say, " Why did you break your brothers

glasses? " instead of " Did you break your brother's glasses? " It just cuts

through the bull phase and gets straight to the point.

I don't know what kind of punishment he should get. It's so hard to punish

some kids who have so little interests or don't care to have things taken

away. Someone else already wrote that he could pay you back by doing

chores. That's a good idea except I would list the chores in total so he

can see a beginning and an end and also so he knows " all " these chores here

are for a specific reason.

Roxanna

kneeleee@...

[Guest guest]

Hi . My son has high functioning Autism. and He is the youngest ..So i cant

tell you sibling issues. but I can tell you he has broken his more often

than not. I cant even remember how many weve replaced over the years. as he

was born with congenital cataracts. so.he has worn glasses his whole life.

But I can tell you why he broke them all those years. We found out much

later after he was able to communicate better. and that was that kids were

making fun of him., teasing him etc. There very well may be an underlying

issue as to why he is doing it. and maybe the same reason for breaking his

twin brothers glasses as well. Its my belief that kids dont just do things

out of spite. There is usually a reason for everything . My son has alot of

anxiety and being teased his whole life because he was different than all

the other kids in his classrooms. Now at 17 1/2 I now know that was the

reason ..and if he gets headaches..I say to him.Thats wht happens when you

dont take care of your glasses. and I wont replace them. His vision is 20/50

so. he has to suffer until his insurance will pay for them again in a years

time.

Tangible things is what our kids know. For mine..its his video games. Each

time he broke them he lost time off his computer or video games or tv or

toys or all the above depending on the severity of what hes done. I dont

know if this helps but. even with my NT kids. I always took away what meant

the most to them ..even as teenagers.

I hope this helps

Hugs

Robin

On 4/13/06, Roxanna <madideas@...> wrote:

>

>

>

>

> ( ) Glasses

>

> I have an odd question. My AS son broke his glasses in less then a month

> from purchase date because he was mad at me. Not a problem he gets to go

> without now. His eye sight is 20/20 one eye and 20/40 the other. Well for

> what ever reason on the way to school today he broke his twin brother's

> glasses. Now he told the school he didn't do it but he is a chronic liar,

> never does anything wrong. I know it was him, there is not a single doubt

> in

> my mind. But what do we do? There is not a punishment I can think of that

> would be meaningful to him, except maybe no TV for the rest of his life

>

> And of course that will just make him angry and sneaky. I have replaced

> more

> glasses in the past couple years then I have owned in my entire life. I'm

> very frustrated and I guess I'm looking for insight. I can't afford to

> keep

> doing this. Any ideas would be appreciated.

>

>

>

> Mom to 8 " wonderful " kids.

>

> Friends are quiet angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have

> trouble

> remembering how to fly.

>

>

> First, you should check into getting your glasses done at JcPenney's or at

> Sears. Both have a kids program for glasses that will replace and repair

> at

> little cost to you if the glasses are broken. At least they did a few

> years

> ago!

>

> As for lying, I have found it much easier to just state factoids instead

> of

> asking the kid to tell what he did. People don't really like to

> self-incriminate. <G> So I would say, " Why did you break your brothers

> glasses? " instead of " Did you break your brother's glasses? " It just cuts

> through the bull phase and gets straight to the point.

>

> I don't know what kind of punishment he should get. It's so hard to

> punish

> some kids who have so little interests or don't care to have things taken

> away. Someone else already wrote that he could pay you back by doing

> chores. That's a good idea except I would list the chores in total so he

> can see a beginning and an end and also so he knows " all " these chores

> here

> are for a specific reason.

>

>

>

> Roxanna

> kneeleee@...

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Okay here is what I now believe to have happened the morning of the broken

glasses. Although I'm sure there is still more to it.

The 2 boys were on their way to the bus stop which is only 1 house away. I

went to the bathroom instead of watching them. told Reggie to hurry

up and so Reggie got mad because he can't stand anyone telling him what to

do. So it went from verbal to a couple shared shoves .And of course then

continued on the bus. Reggie was waiting for the bus in the middle of the

street again because no one is going to tell him where to stand so the bus

driver was upset with him when he got on and told him he needed to stand by

the stop sign. Then he started blocking the aisle so no one could get by him

and when he was asked to stopped he started challenging the bus driver. Not

the first time for this behavior either. So the fight then became redirected

at and he started hitting him and he took the glasses and broke them

in half. Now before anyone says anything about should not provoke

his AS brother, let me point out that he is also ADHD and has a low IQ so he

just doesn't get a lot of things either. They are the only 2 that get on the

bus at our stop also. Now we have a large family so unfortunately I can't

decrease the chaos in his life. I know he would do better in a smaller

situation but that just isn't going to happen.

He sold his dad his toys which he can now buy back with his birthday money

if he so chooses. He was not allowed to ride the bus the rest of the week

but dad only walked him to school the one morning and then dad drove him the

rest of the week. And I'm not sure when he will get TV back. (which is

impacting him the most)

We try so hard to ignore so many of his inappropriate behaviors but when we

do that he does start to try to get away with other things and it is so

frustrating.

Oh well, we are on spring break now for the next week and I know I am

looking forward to the daily challenges the kids will throw my way. Maybe I

ll get lucky and they will all get along for the week. I can dream.

Suzanne

-- ( ) Glasses

>

> I have an odd question. My AS son broke his glasses in less then a month

> from purchase date because he was mad at me. Not a problem he gets to go

> without now. His eye sight is 20/20 one eye and 20/40 the other. Well for

> what ever reason on the way to school today he broke his twin brother's

> glasses. Now he told the school he didn't do it but he is a chronic liar,

> never does anything wrong. I know it was him, there is not a single doubt

> in

> my mind. But what do we do? There is not a punishment I can think of that

> would be meaningful to him, except maybe no TV for the rest of his life

>

> And of course that will just make him angry and sneaky. I have replaced

> more

> glasses in the past couple years then I have owned in my entire life. I'm

> very frustrated and I guess I'm looking for insight. I can't afford to

> keep

> doing this. Any ideas would be appreciated.

>

>

>

> Mom to 8 " wonderful " kids.

>

> Friends are quiet angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have

> trouble

> remembering how to fly.

>

>

> First, you should check into getting your glasses done at JcPenney's or at

> Sears. Both have a kids program for glasses that will replace and repair

> at

> little cost to you if the glasses are broken. At least they did a few

> years

> ago!

>

> As for lying, I have found it much easier to just state factoids instead

> of

> asking the kid to tell what he did. People don't really like to

> self-incriminate. <G> So I would say, " Why did you break your brothers

> glasses? " instead of " Did you break your brother's glasses? " It just cuts

> through the bull phase and gets straight to the point.

>

> I don't know what kind of punishment he should get. It's so hard to

> punish

> some kids who have so little interests or don't care to have things taken

> away. Someone else already wrote that he could pay you back by doing

> chores. That's a good idea except I would list the chores in total so he

> can see a beginning and an end and also so he knows " all " these chores

> here

> are for a specific reason.

>

>

>

> Roxanna

> kneeleee@...

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Subject: Re: ( ) Glasses

Okay here is what I now believe to have happened the morning of the broken

glasses. Although I'm sure there is still more to it.

The 2 boys were on their way to the bus stop which is only 1 house away. I

went to the bathroom instead of watching them. told Reggie to hurry

up and so Reggie got mad because he can't stand anyone telling him what to

do. So it went from verbal to a couple shared shoves .And of course then

continued on the bus. Reggie was waiting for the bus in the middle of the

street again because no one is going to tell him where to stand so the bus

driver was upset with him when he got on and told him he needed to stand by

the stop sign. Then he started blocking the aisle so no one could get by him

and when he was asked to stopped he started challenging the bus driver. Not

the first time for this behavior either. So the fight then became redirected

at and he started hitting him and he took the glasses and broke them

in half. Now before anyone says anything about should not provoke

his AS brother, let me point out that he is also ADHD and has a low IQ so he

just doesn't get a lot of things either. They are the only 2 that get on the

bus at our stop also. Now we have a large family so unfortunately I can't

decrease the chaos in his life. I know he would do better in a smaller

situation but that just isn't going to happen.

He sold his dad his toys which he can now buy back with his birthday money

if he so chooses. He was not allowed to ride the bus the rest of the week

but dad only walked him to school the one morning and then dad drove him the

rest of the week. And I'm not sure when he will get TV back. (which is

impacting him the most)

We try so hard to ignore so many of his inappropriate behaviors but when we

do that he does start to try to get away with other things and it is so

frustrating.

Oh well, we are on spring break now for the next week and I know I am

looking forward to the daily challenges the kids will throw my way. Maybe I

ll get lucky and they will all get along for the week. I can dream.

Suzanne

Suzanne,

Is there any way to have someone go to the bus stop with the boys? It

sounds like Reggie needs a lot more guidance and structure. It could be

dangerous for him to keep behaving this way - standing in the middle of the

road, for example.

As for the on bus behavior, you could request a monitor to keep him in line

or you could ask for a behavior plan where he can earn points for behaving

while on the bus. It would have to be a positive behavior plan and not

focus only on his bad behaviors. For instance, instead of chewing him out

for not letting kids pass by him on the bus, he would get praised for

letting kids pass by without disturbing them. Also, he could get an

assigned seat on the bus - someplace that limits his options and also

possible a place far from his brother!

Roxanna

kneeleee@...

[Guest guest]

My daughter wouldn't keep sunglasses on for a minute. Would just pull them off. When I found out she needed glasses I was horrified at the idea of her even keeping them on for a second. I did some research and came up with www.solobambini.com. They sell plastic frames just for little ones. My daughter doesn't notice (for the most part) when I put them on her. They seem to be working out quite well, considering I'm working with a 15 month old.

Thanks,

Tawnya

Boulder, CO

-------------- Original message -------------- From: Rippee <rrippee77@...>

Hi Nikki, is wearing his glasses more and more every day. I think when he sees me wearing my glasses, he is more willing to wear them also. The Dr. also said what helps is to praise him, and tell him how good he looks with them on,etc. It seems to be working for . Good luck with your baby! -- in San Diego,CA.Nikki Janman <nikkijanman (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Hi Nice to hear from you. I had a look at your nephews pic, he looks very cute!Yes i am not looking forward to Luke having to wear glasses when he is 2 (in 4 mths). He refused to wear a hat all summer and pulled it off every time i put it on him! So I can't imagine how i am going to keep glasses on him!I wear glasses and contact lenses myself so since i found out Luke might need glasses, I let him try my glasses on every so often and he asks to try them on. I also let him look at himself in the mirror when he's wearing them so he gets used to the whole idea of glasses and sees them as something fun.How is your sister/in law getting on with keeping the glasses on ? Has she got any tips for keeping them on?!Anyway thank you for the warm welcomeTake care Nikki>> Hi Nikki,> My name is . I live in San Diego, CA., and my nephew () is 22 months old. He was just diagnosed with BPES. If you want to see his pic, look in PHOTOS . He is so cute. From what I can tell , he doesnt have as severe eye drooping as some of the kids. His Dr. hasn't mentioned anything yet about surgery. But, DOES have to wear glasses. He just started wearing them a week ago. That's been quite an experience for his MOTHER! I think he's starting to get used to them, hopefully! I hope you will write back. It's nice to have someone that has a child the same age as my nephew! Welcome to the group! --->

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Hi

Thanks for your replies, sorry for not replying sooner.

I had a look at the website, how cute do those babies look!?

I will see what they say about glasses at his next appointment and

if there are places in the UK i can get them from.

Thanks

Nikki

-- In blepharophimosis , mtcarv@... wrote:

>

> My daughter wouldn't keep sunglasses on for a minute. Would just

pull them off. When I found out she needed glasses I was horrified

at the idea of her even keeping them on for a second. I did some

research and came up with www.solobambini.com. They sell plastic

frames just for little ones. My daughter doesn't notice (for the

most part) when I put them on her. They seem to be working out

quite well, considering I'm working with a 15 month old.

>

> Thanks,

> Tawnya

> Boulder, CO

>

> -------------- Original message --------------

> From: Rippee <rrippee77@...>

> Hi Nikki, is wearing his glasses more and more every day. I

think when he sees me wearing my glasses, he is more willing to wear

them also. The Dr. also said what helps is to praise him, and tell

him how good he looks with them on,etc. It seems to be working for

. Good luck with your baby! -- in San Diego,CA.

>

> Nikki Janman <nikkijanman@...> wrote:

> Hi

> Nice to hear from you. I had a look at your nephews pic, he looks

> very cute!

> Yes i am not looking forward to Luke having to wear glasses when

he

> is 2 (in 4 mths). He refused to wear a hat all summer and pulled

it

> off every time i put it on him! So I can't imagine how i am going

to

> keep glasses on him!

> I wear glasses and contact lenses myself so since i found out Luke

> might need glasses, I let him try my glasses on every so often and

> he asks to try them on. I also let him look at himself in the

mirror

> when he's wearing them so he gets used to the whole idea of

glasses

> and sees them as something fun.

> How is your sister/in law getting on with keeping the glasses on

> ? Has she got any tips for keeping them on?!

> Anyway thank you for the warm welcome

> Take care

> Nikki

>

>

> >

> > Hi Nikki,

> > My name is . I live in San Diego, CA., and my nephew

> () is 22 months old. He was just diagnosed with BPES. If you

> want to see his pic, look in PHOTOS . He is so cute. From what I

can

> tell , he doesnt have as severe eye drooping as some of the kids.

> His Dr. hasn't mentioned anything yet about surgery. But,

DOES

> have to wear glasses. He just started wearing them a week ago.

> That's been quite an experience for his MOTHER! I think he's

> starting to get used to them, hopefully! I hope you will write

back.

> It's nice to have someone that has a child the same age as my

> nephew! Welcome to the group! ---

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi all

I have recently been advised that Kirsten (4) will need glasses. She

is apparently short-sighted, yet at the same time cannot see small

details close up either! She has an astigmatism in both eyes which

may explain some of it, but to be both short and far-sighted at the

same time I didn't think was possible. Her prescription is around -

2.5 and has been fairly stable until this last check-up.

My question is, of the kids that are wearing glasses, how often do

their glasses need changing? I was told that Kirsten's eye

prescription may change up to 6 months after eyelid surgery and so

it may not be worth getting glasses before that. She will be

properly tested in December and we will get glasses after that. She

seems happy with the idea, especially as I wear glasses.

And secondly, I have been told frames with sprung arms are useful

for kids. Any tips that I should look out for when getting glasses

for Kirsten? Ta

Regards

Parsons

Harrogate, UK

[Guest guest]

wrote:

> Hi all

Hi ,

> I have recently been advised that Kirsten (4) will need glasses. She

> is apparently short-sighted, yet at the same time cannot see small

> details close up either! She has an astigmatism in both eyes which

> may explain some of it, but to be both short and far-sighted at the

> same time I didn't think was possible. Her prescription is around -

> 2.5 and has been fairly stable until this last check-up.

This reminds me of me. Are you sure Kirsten's only 4, and not 45? ;-)

Perhaps a typo...? I've worn glasses for short-sightedness all my life,

but these days sometimes my arms just aren't long enough, y'know...?

> And secondly, I have been told frames with sprung arms are useful

> for kids. Any tips that I should look out for when getting glasses

> for Kirsten? Ta

One thing my mother always did with my glasses was to get toughened

glass, so they wouldn't break while playing footy or whatever. Now, I'm

not sure how much rough & tumble a 4+-year-old girl gets up to in

Harrogate, and I'm not sure whether kids' glasses are made of glass

these days anyway, but you at least might want to make sure the frames

are sturdy, so (a) they don't break even if the (plastic/acrylic these

days?) lenses can't, and ( the lenses don't pop out of their frames

during the ruck & maul phase or in a 'tasty' scrum. I also had those

bendy hook things that went around my ears and held the specs on

securely during, say, a feisty line-out or an all-in brawl.

Rob W

Oz

[Guest guest]

Hi

Todd has had glasses for about the last 9 months, he was 4 in June.

We have only ever had the standard " free " NHS issue type frames.(which

is a choice of several not just the nasty obviously NHS glasses I

rememebr from my childhood!) he has never broken them beyond repair,

but we do have fairly regular trips to the opticians for minor

repairs, eg new nose pads, tightening of the arms etc. all this has

always been done free of charge so has never caused a major problem.

though I can see why flexy arms may be helpful as he doesn't tend to

take them off very carefully - hence the trip to get them bent back

into shape today!

HTH

Caroline

Kent, UK

[Guest guest]

wow your son sounds like my son and my son is 9 now, however he too has had his glasses since he was about 5 and the only problems we have had were his nose pads and his lenses popping out (we made the mistake and got round glasses) for his prescription which is quite strong his lenses were so thick. the other thing that our doctor did which was great was make his prescription convex so it would help magnify his eyes, ( no more small eye comments lately) if you check out lyndens photos you will see a huge difference, altho i have threatened my son that if he was not more careful i would get a band that wrpas around his head so they would not fall off, (he just finished swinging them around and dropped them 3 times) uugh.

Tonikka and Chris

-----Original Message-----From: blepharophimosis [mailto:blepharophimosis ]On Behalf Of Caroline ObbardSent: November 7, 2006 5:05 AMblepharophimosis Subject: blepharophimosis Re: Glasses

Hi Todd has had glasses for about the last 9 months, he was 4 in June. We have only ever had the standard "free" NHS issue type frames.(which is a choice of several not just the nasty obviously NHS glasses I rememebr from my childhood!) he has never broken them beyond repair, but we do have fairly regular trips to the opticians for minor repairs, eg new nose pads, tightening of the arms etc. all this has always been done free of charge so has never caused a major problem. though I can see why flexy arms may be helpful as he doesn't tend to take them off very carefully - hence the trip to get them bent back into shape today!HTHCarolineKent, UK

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Hi everyone

Thanks for all your responses. I have been noticing lately just how

many kids wear glasses these days. When I was that age I only

remember 2 kids wearing glasses in the whole school and one of them

was my younger sister.

On a future note, Kirsten's 2nd sling op using fascia lata has been

scheduled for next April. I feel like we have just got over the last

op, but at least the end is in sight now. Hooray.

Harrogate (UK)

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> wow your son sounds like my son and my son is 9 now, however he

too has had

> his glasses since he was about 5 and the only problems we have had

were his

> nose pads and his lenses popping out (we made the mistake and got

round

> glasses) for his prescription which is quite strong his lenses

were so

> thick. the other thing that our doctor did which was great was

make his

> prescription convex so it would help magnify his eyes, ( no more

small eye

> comments lately) if you check out lyndens photos you will see a

huge

> difference, altho i have threatened my son that if he was not more

careful i

> would get a band that wrpas around his head so they would not fall

off, (he

> just finished swinging them around and dropped them 3 times) uugh.

>

> Tonikka and Chris

> blepharophimosis Re: Glasses

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>

> Hi

> Todd has had glasses for about the last 9 months, he was 4 in

June.

> We have only ever had the standard " free " NHS issue type frames.

(which

> is a choice of several not just the nasty obviously NHS glasses I

> rememebr from my childhood!) he has never broken them beyond

repair,

> but we do have fairly regular trips to the opticians for minor

> repairs, eg new nose pads, tightening of the arms etc. all this

has

> always been done free of charge so has never caused a major

problem.

> though I can see why flexy arms may be helpful as he doesn't

tend to

> take them off very carefully - hence the trip to get them bent

back

> into shape today!

> HTH

> Caroline

> Kent, UK

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Hi That is excellent news about Kirstens final operation next April. How old will Kirsten be? Also did they need to measure Kirstens leg to make sure it was long enough for the op to take place? We were told Holly will probably be 4 to 4 and a half. Thanks - Take care Lucy Gosport Hampshire <parsonsfamily108@...> wrote: Hi everyoneThanks for all your responses. I have been noticing lately just how

many kids wear glasses these days. When I was that age I only remember 2 kids wearing glasses in the whole school and one of them was my younger sister. On a future note, Kirsten's 2nd sling op using fascia lata has been scheduled for next April. I feel like we have just got over the last op, but at least the end is in sight now. Hooray.Harrogate (UK)>> wow your son sounds like my son and my son is 9 now, however he too has had> his glasses since he was about 5 and the only problems we have had were his> nose pads and his lenses popping out (we made the mistake and got round> glasses) for his prescription which is quite strong his lenses were so> thick. the other thing that our doctor did which was

great was make his> prescription convex so it would help magnify his eyes, ( no more small eye> comments lately) if you check out lyndens photos you will see a huge> difference, altho i have threatened my son that if he was not more careful i> would get a band that wrpas around his head so they would not fall off, (he> just finished swinging them around and dropped them 3 times) uugh.> > Tonikka and Chris> blepharophimosis Re: Glasses>

> > Hi > Todd has had glasses for about the last 9 months, he was 4 in June.> We have only ever had the standard "free" NHS issue type frames.(which> is a choice of several not just the nasty obviously NHS glasses I> rememebr from my childhood!) he has never broken them beyond repair,> but we do have fairly regular trips to the opticians for minor> repairs, eg new nose pads, tightening of the arms etc. all this has> always been done free of charge so has never caused a major problem.> though I can see why flexy arms may be helpful as he doesn't tend to> take them off very carefully - hence the trip to get them bent back> into shape today!> HTH> Caroline> Kent, UK> Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.

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Hi Lucy

I was glad to hear Holly's op went well in September, please post

some pics soon if you can. Kirsten will be 4 yrs old for her final

op in April. She will be 5 next August. No, Mr Collin didn't measure

her leg and she is actually below average height for her age. But

she does have another appointment with him in December and if he

does measure it then, I will let you know.

Take care,

Harrogate, UK

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> > wow your son sounds like my son and my son is 9 now, however he

> too has had

> > his glasses since he was about 5 and the only problems we have

had

> were his

> > nose pads and his lenses popping out (we made the mistake and

got

> round

> > glasses) for his prescription which is quite strong his lenses

> were so

> > thick. the other thing that our doctor did which was great was

> make his

> > prescription convex so it would help magnify his eyes, ( no more

> small eye

> > comments lately) if you check out lyndens photos you will see a

> huge

> > difference, altho i have threatened my son that if he was not

more

> careful i

> > would get a band that wrpas around his head so they would not

fall

> off, (he

> > just finished swinging them around and dropped them 3 times)

uugh.

> >

> > Tonikka and Chris

> > blepharophimosis Re: Glasses

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> >

> > Hi

> > Todd has had glasses for about the last 9 months, he was 4 in

> June.

> > We have only ever had the standard " free " NHS issue type frames.

> (which

> > is a choice of several not just the nasty obviously NHS glasses I

> > rememebr from my childhood!) he has never broken them beyond

> repair,

> > but we do have fairly regular trips to the opticians for minor

> > repairs, eg new nose pads, tightening of the arms etc. all this

> has

> > always been done free of charge so has never caused a major

> problem.

> > though I can see why flexy arms may be helpful as he doesn't

> tend to

> > take them off very carefully - hence the trip to get them bent

> back

> > into shape today!

> > HTH

> > Caroline

> > Kent, UK

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Hello , Kenley also has to wear glasses and she is also both near and far sighted. Her pres is 6.75 in one eye and 9.75 in the other. Needless to say they are very thich. We have them cut by Nikon which has a process that still meets the prep strength but also are lighter and less thich than normal. Kenley has had glasses since she was 2 and yes they have to be very tough. We buy her the spring loaded hinges and always metal frames. They metal will bend so if she is too rough they bend not break. About every two weeks we have to take them back to the store and they will adjust them back into shape and make sure they still her face as she grows. For most children we have seen they are so glad they can see clear again they take pretty good care of the glasses. Best of luck. Oh yeah it really really helps to buy the insurance for the glasses. TAke it from someone who learned the hard way.

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Thanks for your note . I definitely feel I can now make an

informed choice when getting Kirsten's glasses. Everyone's advice

has been fab!

Parsons

Harrogate, UK

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> Hello ,

> Kenley also has to wear glasses and she is also both near and

far sighted. Her pres is 6.75 in one eye and 9.75 in the other.

Needless to say they are very thich. We have them cut by Nikon

which has a process that still meets the prep strength but also are

lighter and less thich than normal. Kenley has had glasses since

she was 2 and yes they have to be very tough. We buy her the spring

loaded hinges and always metal frames. They metal will bend so if

she is too rough they bend not break. About every two weeks we have

to take them back to the store and they will adjust them back into

shape and make sure they still her face as she grows. For most

children we have seen they are so glad they can see clear again they

take pretty good care of the glasses. Best of luck. Oh yeah it

really really helps to buy the insurance for the glasses. TAke it

from someone who learned the hard way.

> Lancaster

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Hi ,

The frames that Naomi is using seems to us to be the best so far, they are carl

zeiss and

it's metal with spring hinges and the 'arms' loop round her ears so they don't

fall off.

Another good thing is that the nose pad is a " saddle' rather than the usual 2

bits that sits

on the side. It's great for her because she doesn't have much of a nose bridge.

So they sit

really well on her face. They have never fallen off her when she has them on.

They have

lasted really well too. We have to change frames now because she has grown...

You can take a closer look at them in her photos on the group if you like. Take

care now!

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> Hello ,

> Kenley also has to wear glasses and she is also both near and far sighted.

Her pres is

6.75 in one eye and 9.75 in the other. Needless to say they are very thich. We

have them

cut by Nikon which has a process that still meets the prep strength but also are

lighter and

less thich than normal. Kenley has had glasses since she was 2 and yes they

have to be

very tough. We buy her the spring loaded hinges and always metal frames. They

metal

will bend so if she is too rough they bend not break. About every two weeks we

have to

take them back to the store and they will adjust them back into shape and make

sure they

still her face as she grows. For most children we have seen they are so glad

they can see

clear again they take pretty good care of the glasses. Best of luck. Oh yeah

it really really

helps to buy the insurance for the glasses. TAke it from someone who learned

the hard

way.

> Lancaster

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I ditto the suggestion for the special kind of frames--here our problem is I

wear glasses, but our ASD daughter likes to mess mine up! Titanium frames

didn't work so great--they didn't break--which is why I tried them, but they

very easily got bent out of shape (in her freakishly strong grip). We've

tried flexon (light, flexible but the ear piece doesn't curve, so they fall

off easily) and now I'm in some sort of in-between type that's a

super-flexible strong frame and they stay on and don't get messed up when

" messed with " . For me, the frameless glasses didn't work so well--I wanted

a more substantial frame (and I have a strong prescription so needed

something to hold the thicker lenses), but I wanted to toss out there that

there are a few options for what you could do for frames that will keep them

protected. They are more expensive than regular plastic or metal frames,

but if you don't have to replace/repair them again and again, it could be

worth it?

Hope you get some help for this issue!

Martha

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> This is amazing. My daughter did the same thing for a few years.

> I would get the old ones fixed over and over. She wanted

> new frames so she stopped. But this is another topic. They

> now how very extremely light and frameless glasses and we got

> them this year. For one thing you can't break them. You can bend

> them like a rubber band. She does not seemed so annoyed by them anymore

> which was part of the reason she was throwing them around.

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> Oh my gosh these kids are so sensitive. The stuff that sets them

> off. I have no idea why I presently find this amusing.

> Because just today this kido was biting my hand at the library

> because she didn't like how I was looking for a library card.

> She would not go with me to the car for a timeout.

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> When we got home I had to take away the TV and computer until she took her

> 30 minute time. I don't know what will work

> for this odd behavior.

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>> I have another problem that I need advice on. (do you ever feel like

>> just when you feel you have one thing under control these darn kids pull

>> another thing out of their hat of behaviors?). s (10 year old

>> Aspie) wears glasses. This weekend during a meltdown he tore his glasses

>> in half. This is about the 2nd or 3rd time he has done this. They are

>> no longer warrentied so this will all be out of pocket money. This is

>> getting expensive. What should I do? I can't really let him go without

>> glasses as it will hurt his vision, cause headaches etc. But I also cant

>> replace his glasses every couple of monthes because it is the most

>> accessable thing to rip apart when he is upset.

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>> Arrrggh!

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>> Vickie

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Vickie,Welcome to the club!! Mack does this 3-4 times a year. We have two pair of glasses for that reason. We have also talked with our eye doctor about Mack's problem. We get the glasses from her office. She has been wonderful at helping us to get the glasses repaired. They do as many repairs in their own lab as possible & for no charge.Maybe you can find a doctor like ours.Sent from my iPhoneBlessings, DonnaOn Jun 29, 2009, at 9:43 AM, "Vickie Boehnlein" <baneline1@...> wrote:

I have another problem that I need advice on. (do you ever feel like just when you feel you have one thing under control these darn kids pull another thing out of their hat of behaviors?). s (10 year old Aspie) wears glasses. This weekend during a meltdown he tore his glasses in half. This is about the 2nd or 3rd time he has done this. They are no longer warrentied so this will all be out of pocket money. This is getting expensive. What should I do? I can't really let him go without glasses as it will hurt his vision, cause headaches etc. But I also cant replace his glasses every couple of monthes because it is the most accessable thing to rip apart when he is upset.

Arrrggh!

Vickie

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Thanks for all the suggestions on the glasses. It is always nice to know that

we are not alone in our childs wild and crazy quirkiness. We have ordered a

pair of the flex glasses that seem pretty durable. Hopefully they will hold up

to him. I have decided to go this route this time but I am thinking of ordering

a pair of back up glasses from off the internet. They seem to be very cheap and

it would be nice to have a pair around that has the current prescription. Has

anyone ever ordered glasses online?

Vickie

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> > old Aspie) wears glasses. This weekend during a meltdown he tore his

> > glasses in half. This is about the 2nd or 3rd time he has done this.

> > They are no longer warrentied so this will all be out of pocket

> > money. This is getting expensive. What should I do? I can't really

> > let him go without glasses as it will hurt his vision, cause

> > headaches etc. But I also cant replace his glasses every couple of

> > monthes because it is the most accessable thing to rip apart when he

> > is upset.

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> > Arrrggh!

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> > Vickie

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Never ordered online, but the flexible frames do hold up better. Mack actually twisted a pair & folded them completely in half & we were able to straighten them!!!Sent from my iPhoneBlessings, DonnaOn Jun 30, 2009, at 8:32 AM, "Vickie Boehnlein" <baneline1@...> wrote:

Thanks for all the suggestions on the glasses. It is always nice to know that we are not alone in our childs wild and crazy quirkiness. We have ordered a pair of the flex glasses that seem pretty durable. Hopefully they will hold up to him. I have decided to go this route this time but I am thinking of ordering a pair of back up glasses from off the internet. They seem to be very cheap and it would be nice to have a pair around that has the current prescription. Has anyone ever ordered glasses online?

Vickie

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> > I have another problem that I need advice on. (do you ever feel like

> > just when you feel you have one thing under control these darn kids

> > pull another thing out of their hat of behaviors?). s (10 year

> > old Aspie) wears glasses. This weekend during a meltdown he tore his

> > glasses in half. This is about the 2nd or 3rd time he has done this.

> > They are no longer warrentied so this will all be out of pocket

> > money. This is getting expensive. What should I do? I can't really

> > let him go without glasses as it will hurt his vision, cause

> > headaches etc. But I also cant replace his glasses every couple of

> > monthes because it is the most accessable thing to rip apart when he

> > is upset.

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> > Arrrggh!

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> > Vickie

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Try looking for a program where you can have children's glasses replaced for minimal fees. We did that at Sears for a few years but JCPenney also had a program like that. When lenses broke or something, it would cost $10 or something to replace them - the fees were reasonable.

It sounds like when he is angry, he doesn't know how to better express himself. SO I would focus on teaching him better ways of being angry. You know sometimes we get angry enough to rip something apart? That might be what is going on only he really does it! Install a basketball hoop and teach him to shoot five baskets when he is angry. Or have him shred newspaper. Or have him write down what is making him so mad, if he could. Or give him a punching bag and let him smack it around. Or have him run around the yard or block. Find ways he can better express his feelings - whatever might work for him. Then work on dealing with frustration (a long process to work on!!) If you can see what is upsetting him on a regular basis, try working on dealing with that issue or avoiding it, or how ever it might be resolved better.

Roxanna

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." E. Burke

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I have another problem that I need advice on. (do you ever feel like just when you feel you have one thing under control these darn kids pull another thing out of their hat of behaviors?). s (10 year old Aspie) wears glasses. This weekend during a meltdown he tore his glasses in half. This is about the 2nd or 3rd time he has done this. They are no longer warrentied so this will all be out of pocket money. This is getting expensive. What should I do? I can't really let him go without glasses as it will hurt his vision, cause headaches etc. But I also cant replace his glasses every couple of monthes because it is the most accessable thing to rip apart when he is upset.

Arrrggh!

Vickie

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You're right it is an issue of him not knowing how else to release those

emotions. In this case it wasn't event that he was angry so much as upset. He

had hurt his sister and was upset about that. Overloaded emotions. We were not

at home when his sister got hurt. We got everyone in the car and were trying to

difuse things when he took them off and started twisting. After a couple of

days when we went to order new glass we talked about the cost of replacing the

glasses. He understands the seriousness of this but when he is in the middle of

the meltdown all that reasoning ablility goes out the window. Its just

something that I will have to continue working on with him and hopefully

eventually he will start to learn some new coping techniques.

Normally the frames are warrantied but the last place we bought from has a one

time free replacement. Well a couple of months ago he was hit by another kid on

the bus and the glasses were busted in half. So they had just been replaced. I

should have tried to get either the school, bus company or other kids parents to

pay for the replacement frames to keep the warranty open but I just didn't want

to start a battle since my son retaliated by kicking the boy. Also, my son is

10 and this boy was like 5 or 6 years old so I think I was a little embarassed

about the whole thing. Now I have to pay for that decision ($214.00 to be

exact).

Well, good thoughts. I think I might ask s what he thinks would work for

him. Often when he is a part of the decision he is more cooperative in

following though.

Vickie

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minimal fees.? We did that at Sears for a few years but JCPenney also had a

program like that.? When lenses broke or something, it would cost $10 or

something to replace them - the fees were reasonable.

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> It sounds like when he is angry, he doesn't know how to better express

himself.? SO I would focus on teaching him better ways of being angry.? You know

sometimes we get angry enough to rip something apart?? That might be what is

going on only he really does it!? Install a basketball hoop and teach him to

shoot five baskets when he is angry.? Or have him shred newspaper.? Or have him

write down what is making him so mad, if he could.? Or give him a punching bag

and let him smack it around.? Or have him run around the yard or block.? Find

ways he can better express his feelings - whatever might work for him.? Then

work on dealing with frustration (a long process to work on!!)? If you can see

what is upsetting him on a regular basis, try working on dealing with that issue

or avoiding it, or how ever it might be resolved better.?

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when you feel you have one thing under control these darn kids pull another

thing out of their hat of behaviors?). s (10 year old Aspie) wears

glasses. This weekend during a meltdown he tore his glasses in half. This is

about the 2nd or 3rd time he has done this. They are no longer warrentied so

this will all be out of pocket money. This is getting expensive. What should I

do? I can't really let him go without glasses as it will hurt his vision, cause

headaches etc. But I also cant replace his glasses every couple of monthes

because it is the most accessable thing to rip apart when he is upset.

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