Guest guest Posted August 23, 2001 Report Share Posted August 23, 2001 <cures for cancer > From: " Mehmet z. Saclioglu " <mzsaclioglu@...> Date sent: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 11:30:35 +0300 Send reply to: cures for cancer Subject: Ynt: Tomato inhibits cancer growth > Dear Moonbeam, > State University(Detroit). The news says that he gave 2 x15mg.(daily) > lycopene capsules to some of the 26 prostat cancer patients who are > waiting for surgery during 3 weeks. After the 3 weeks they have been taken > to operation and it has been seen that the tumors of the ones who took > lycopen was shrinked. Maybe you can find the details of this work easier > than me. I am also curious about this news if it is true or not. Thanks > Mehmet Hi Mehmet, Cooked tomatoes (best fried in a little olive oil) are a part of Protocol1 and the Poor Persons Protocol. But I would never rely on a single item to cure cancer. There are about 10 essential things which are outlined in Protocol 1. Previously Kees Braam questioned that Lycopene could be used to treat cancer. Cancer Epidemiol Biomarkers Prev 2001 Aug;10(8):861-8 Phase II randomized clinical trial of lycopene supplementation before radical prostatectomy. Kucuk O, Sarkar FH, Sakr W, Djuric Z, Pollak MN, Khachik F, Li YW, Banerjee M, Grignon D, Bertram JS, Crissman JD, Pontes EJ, Wood DP Jr. Division of Hematology and Oncology, Wayne State University, and Barbara Ann Karmanos Cancer Institute, Detroit, MI 48201, USA. kucuko@... An inverse association has been observed between dietary intake of lycopene and the risk of prostate cancer. We investigated the effects of lycopene supplementation in patients with prostate cancer. Twenty-six men with newly diagnosed, clinically localized (14 T(1) and 12 T(2)) prostate cancer were randomly assigned to receive 15 mg of lycopene (n = 15) twice daily or no supplementation (n = 11) for 3 weeks before radical prostatectomy. Plasma prostate-specific antigen levels Decreased by 18% in the intervention group, whereas they Increased by 14% in the control group (P = 0.25). Expression of connexin 43 in cancerous prostate tissue was 0.63 +/- 0.19 absorbance in the lycopene group compared with 0.25 +/- 0.08 in the control group (P = 0.13). The results suggest that lycopene supplementation may decrease the growth of prostate cancer. However, no firm conclusions can be drawn at this time because of the small sample size. PMID: 11489752 [PubMed - in process] moonbeam > > My rudeness > > Date sent: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 21:24:10 +0200 > > > > > Dear Moonbeam and others, > > >But most of the time I really didn't know things. Or I know > > > information in another perspective. For example the Italian study > > > about lycopeen with prostatecancer I know, but I know it as a study > > > which > shows > > > that it PREVENT cancer and prostatecancer, it didn't show, but maybe > > > I'm wrong that it cured cancer, though I beleive that it will at least > > > help > to > > > cure but that's my personal opinion. > > > > Hi, > > There are no clinical trials on toamot juice (lycopene) used as > anadjuvant in > > cancer therapy, but there are animal studies that show that carotenes > > and > retinoids > > inhibit growth of tumors. Carotenes (including lycopene) are a key part > > of > Gerson > > therapy. > > > > Cancer Lett 1989 Nov 30;48(2):135-42 > > > > Inhibition of growth and development of the transplantable C-6 > > glioma cells inoculated in rats by retinoids and carotenoids. > > > > Wang CJ, Chou MY, Lin JK. > > > > Institute of Biochemistry, National Taiwan University, College of > Medicine, ROC. > > > > Experimental data were provided to demonstrate the inhibitory effects > > of > retinoids > > (retinal, retinoic acid, retinyl acetate and retinyl palmitate) and > carotenoids > > (beta-carotene, lycopene and crocetin) on the growth and development > > of > the C-6 > > glioma cells inoculated in rats. In the pretreatment experiments, most > of these > > compounds could prolong the latency period of T50 (time for 50% tumor > incidence). > > At week 7, the growth inhibition was 57-67% (P less than 0.02) with > carotenoids and > > 40-55% (P less than 0.05) with retinoids. In the post-treatment > experiments, the > > growth inhibition was 30-55% (P less than 0.05) with carotenoids and > 21-42% (P > > less than 0.05) with retinoids. No significant hepatotoxic effect was > observed in all > > treated groups as indicated by the constant levels of serum enzymes > (e.g. aspartate > > amino-transferase, alanine amino-transferase and alkaline phosphatase) > and > > bilirubin. The mechanisms of tumor inhibition through the enhancement > > of > anti-tumor > > immunity by both carotenoids and retinoids were discussed. > > > > PMID: 2819700 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > > > > > > moonbeam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But when I read the inforamtion the > > > first time of moonbeam I thougt whow this is good and I wanted to know > the > > > study. So not to doubt the info of Moonbeam but I just wanted to know > the > > > details (thank you Moonbeam anyhow) > > > > > > So I think I could write a long mail again but I just want to say that > at > > > least I don't block any information because all I think is valuable > > > and > if > > > other do with my information fine I cann't help that but we live in a > > > democratic world. But if also Bob thinks I'm too negative he can ask > > > me > to > > > unsubscribe and I will follow his advise. Pity, but I don't want to > > > read all the time negative things aboout myself. I try as well as > > > ohters do > to > > > share information in the hope we get together little by little further > in > > > curing cancer, but I don't want to defend all the time the way I think > > > about it all. > > > > > > And maybe also the problem is that my english isn't my mothertongue > > > and sometimes I choose maybe not the right words. > > > > > > Mvg. Kees Braam > > > webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >During our search for a cure for our cancer, we will take different > > > > >paths to arrive at the individual cure for us. It would behoove > > > > >each of us to do some research of our own or ask questions, as it > > > > >is > natural > > > > >that the provider of information at times is so engrossed in the > > > > >subject that he forgets to relay full details. We are working with > our > > > > >life and cannot make the mistake of shying to ask questions or ask > for > > > > >proof. That goes for all. We should not take offense when one ask > for > > > > >verification or > > > > clarification. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Here is something I came across and sent to Moonbeam right away (in > > > June), > > > > >as I know that she had recommended this product, but may not be > > > > >aware of this side effect. I admire Kees and Moonbeam, and I think > > > > >that > some > > > > >of you may have taken Kees' wording incorrectly. I am glad he is > > > > >confirming procedures with his practitioner. Mildred > > > > > > > > But I feel that there is a big difference between asking questions > > > > to > > > clarify > > > > and verify, and the incessant badgering Kees was doing. It's the > > > > same > > > thing > > > > that the medical associations and the fda are doing. " Looking over > > > stacks > > > > and stacks of case histories and asking, " Where's the scientific > > > > proof? " " > > > > > > > > In my opinion, being a healer, I feel that every process may have > > > benefit. > > > > I've always said " I don't care if I have to dance naked around a > > > > bon fire > > > at > > > > midnight screaming profanities at the top of my lungs, if it heals > just > > > one > > > > person it's a valid healing technique. " > > > > > > > > It's our job to figure out which one of these techniques will work > > > > for us. Just because they worked for someone else doesn't mean they > > > > will work for > > > us. > > > > > > > > I hope that Kees can curb his rudeness from now on and let people > share. > > > It > > > > would indeed be a boring, stuffy world if everyone had to give > reference > > > for > > > > every little thing they utter. > > > > > > > > Klaus > > > > > > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links > > > > there. > > > Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or > > > by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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