Fwd: I showered to reduce HIV risk, Zuma tells rape trial

[Guest guest]

Naki Migosi Matunda,

For a moment I was struck dumb with astonishment.

Re-read the two highlighted statements and please tell me it was a typo eror.It has to be.

Oh, oh, oh...yawa! We're doing so badly.He should be executed and be advised to take

his death with some seriousness.

Let me take a shower and recover mos mos......................

Wams

"A woman cannot be left at that stage when she is already prepared for sex.''

In a message dated 4/6/2006 5:05:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, matunda@... writes:

I showered to reduce HIV risk, Zuma tells rape trial. Story by JOHANNESBURG, Wednesday Publication Date: 4/6/2006

Former Deputy President Zuma told a South African court today that he showered after he had unprotected sex with an HIV-positive woman to reduce the risk of becoming infected with the Aids virus.

Mr Zuma, a 63-year-old former freedom fighter, is accused of raping the 31-year-old family friend at his home last November.

Mr ZumaMr Zuma says the sex was consensual and initiated by the woman.

The former head of the country's National Aids Council has said that he did not use a condom because he believed the risks of him contracting the disease were minimal.

Under cross examination today he said that he took a shower after sexual intercourse with the woman because "it was one of the things that would minimise contact with the disease.''

Mr Zuma said his accuser led him to believe she wanted sex by lamenting that she had no boyfriend and wearing a knee-length skirt when she visited his house.

Mr Zuma insisted that the woman encouraged his sexual advances by using terms such as "love'' and "kisses'' as well telling him that she was lonely and had no boyfriend.

He told the court that her appearance also played a role.

"I put it to you that she was not interested in you because, number one, you were a father figure, and because of her lesbian orientation,'' prosecutor Charin de Beer said.

Mr Zuma, looking uncomfortable and fidgeting in his chair, disagreed. He said he was unaware that she was a lesbian and that she had initiated the physical contact.

"She was the one who was encouraging me,'' he told the court. When he hesitated because he did not have a condom, he said she told him: "A woman cannot be left at that stage when she is already prepared for sex.''

He maintained that he put her at no risk of re-infection because he "knew for a fact I did not have HIV,'' even though his last test had been in 1998. Another test last month confirmed his negative status, he told the court.

His comments provoked dismay among Aids activists who fear that Mr Zuma's behaviour will undermine prevention campaigns in South Africa, which has the highest number of people living with the Aids virus in the world and where men are notorious for having multiple partners and not using a condom.

"He is sending a very wrong impression to the youth that if you engage in unprotected sex the transmission risks are minimal,'' said Ms Nokhwezi Hoboyi, a spokeswoman for the Treatment Action Campaign.

"A lot of people are looking up to Zuma and he is setting a very bad example in Aids prevention,'' she said.

As head of the Aids council, Mr Zuma was meant to spearhead government campaigns against the HIV virus which has infected between 5.3 million and 6 million people in South Africa. Up to 1,000 people are dying each day of Aids related diseases and 2.5 million children have lost one or both parents to Aids and other causes.

A survey last year Human Sciences Research Council revealed that 66 per cent of respondents did not think they were at risk of infection – including just over half of those who tested positive for HIV. "It's absolutely dreadful, appalling,'' said Ms bel Kanabus, director of the British-based Aids charity AVERT, which has prevention programmes in South Africa.

Mr Zuma, who is still deputy president of the ruling African National Congress and enjoys strong support among young people, maintains the rape charges are part of a plot to destroy his lingering hopes of succeeding President Thabo Mbeki in 2009.

He was sacked as deputy president last year for alleged involvement in a corruption scandal and stands trial on those charges in July.

He told the court in his native Zulu through an interpreter: "As I was growing up as a young boy, I was told if you get to that stage with a woman and you don't do anything it is said she will become infuriated with you, that she may even lay false charges of rape against you.''

The woman testified that he offered her massage and had sexual intercourse with her in the guest room. She said that she was so shocked by Mr Zuma's advances that she froze and did not try to resist.

Yesterday, Mr Zuma denied claims by the prosecution that he abused his position of power and authority over the woman, who had known him since she was a child in exile during the apartheid era. He also tried to refute the prosecution's arguments that she had confided in him because she saw him as a father figure after her own father died when she was still young. (AP)

[Guest guest]

Naki Migosi Matunda,

For a moment I was struck dumb with astonishment.

Re-read the two highlighted statements and please tell me it was a typo eror.It has to be.

Oh, oh, oh...yawa! We're doing so badly.He should be executed and be advised to take

his death with some seriousness.

Let me take a shower and recover mos mos......................

Wams

"A woman cannot be left at that stage when she is already prepared for sex.''

In a message dated 4/6/2006 5:05:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, matunda@... writes:

I showered to reduce HIV risk, Zuma tells rape trial. Story by JOHANNESBURG, Wednesday Publication Date: 4/6/2006

Former Deputy President Zuma told a South African court today that he showered after he had unprotected sex with an HIV-positive woman to reduce the risk of becoming infected with the Aids virus.

Mr Zuma, a 63-year-old former freedom fighter, is accused of raping the 31-year-old family friend at his home last November.

Mr ZumaMr Zuma says the sex was consensual and initiated by the woman.

The former head of the country's National Aids Council has said that he did not use a condom because he believed the risks of him contracting the disease were minimal.

Under cross examination today he said that he took a shower after sexual intercourse with the woman because "it was one of the things that would minimise contact with the disease.''

Mr Zuma said his accuser led him to believe she wanted sex by lamenting that she had no boyfriend and wearing a knee-length skirt when she visited his house.

Mr Zuma insisted that the woman encouraged his sexual advances by using terms such as "love'' and "kisses'' as well telling him that she was lonely and had no boyfriend.

He told the court that her appearance also played a role.

"I put it to you that she was not interested in you because, number one, you were a father figure, and because of her lesbian orientation,'' prosecutor Charin de Beer said.

Mr Zuma, looking uncomfortable and fidgeting in his chair, disagreed. He said he was unaware that she was a lesbian and that she had initiated the physical contact.

"She was the one who was encouraging me,'' he told the court. When he hesitated because he did not have a condom, he said she told him: "A woman cannot be left at that stage when she is already prepared for sex.''

He maintained that he put her at no risk of re-infection because he "knew for a fact I did not have HIV,'' even though his last test had been in 1998. Another test last month confirmed his negative status, he told the court.

His comments provoked dismay among Aids activists who fear that Mr Zuma's behaviour will undermine prevention campaigns in South Africa, which has the highest number of people living with the Aids virus in the world and where men are notorious for having multiple partners and not using a condom.

"He is sending a very wrong impression to the youth that if you engage in unprotected sex the transmission risks are minimal,'' said Ms Nokhwezi Hoboyi, a spokeswoman for the Treatment Action Campaign.

"A lot of people are looking up to Zuma and he is setting a very bad example in Aids prevention,'' she said.

As head of the Aids council, Mr Zuma was meant to spearhead government campaigns against the HIV virus which has infected between 5.3 million and 6 million people in South Africa. Up to 1,000 people are dying each day of Aids related diseases and 2.5 million children have lost one or both parents to Aids and other causes.

A survey last year Human Sciences Research Council revealed that 66 per cent of respondents did not think they were at risk of infection – including just over half of those who tested positive for HIV. "It's absolutely dreadful, appalling,'' said Ms bel Kanabus, director of the British-based Aids charity AVERT, which has prevention programmes in South Africa.

Mr Zuma, who is still deputy president of the ruling African National Congress and enjoys strong support among young people, maintains the rape charges are part of a plot to destroy his lingering hopes of succeeding President Thabo Mbeki in 2009.

He was sacked as deputy president last year for alleged involvement in a corruption scandal and stands trial on those charges in July.

He told the court in his native Zulu through an interpreter: "As I was growing up as a young boy, I was told if you get to that stage with a woman and you don't do anything it is said she will become infuriated with you, that she may even lay false charges of rape against you.''

The woman testified that he offered her massage and had sexual intercourse with her in the guest room. She said that she was so shocked by Mr Zuma's advances that she froze and did not try to resist.

Yesterday, Mr Zuma denied claims by the prosecution that he abused his position of power and authority over the woman, who had known him since she was a child in exile during the apartheid era. He also tried to refute the prosecution's arguments that she had confided in him because she saw him as a father figure after her own father died when she was still young. (AP)

[Guest guest]

I showered to reduce HIV risk, Zuma tells rape trial Story by JOHANNESBURG, Wednesday Publication Date: 4/6/2006

Former Deputy President

Zuma told a South African court today that he showered after he

had unprotected sex with an HIV-positive woman to reduce the risk of

becoming infected with the Aids virus.

Mr Zuma, a 63-year-old former freedom fighter, is accused of raping the 31-year-old family friend at his home last November.

Mr ZumaMr Zuma says the sex was consensual and initiated by the woman.

The former head of

the country's National Aids Council has said that he did not use a

condom because he believed the risks of him contracting the disease

were minimal.

Under cross

examination today he said that he took a shower after sexual

intercourse with the woman because "it was one of the things that would

minimise contact with the disease.''

Mr Zuma said his

accuser led him to believe she wanted sex by lamenting that she had no

boyfriend and wearing a knee-length skirt when she visited his house.

Mr Zuma insisted

that the woman encouraged his sexual advances by using terms such as

"love'' and "kisses'' as well telling him that she was lonely and had

no boyfriend.

He told the court that her appearance also played a role.

"I put it to you

that she was not interested in you because, number one, you were a

father figure, and because of her lesbian orientation,'' prosecutor

Charin de Beer said.

Mr Zuma, looking

uncomfortable and fidgeting in his chair, disagreed. He said he was

unaware that she was a lesbian and that she had initiated the physical

contact.

"She was the one

who was encouraging me,'' he told the court. When he hesitated because

he did not have a condom, he said she told him: "A woman cannot be left

at that stage when she is already prepared for sex.''

He maintained that

he put her at no risk of re-infection because he "knew for a fact I did

not have HIV,'' even though his last test had been in 1998. Another

test last month confirmed his negative status, he told the court.

His comments

provoked dismay among Aids activists who fear that Mr Zuma's behaviour

will undermine prevention campaigns in South Africa, which has the

highest number of people living with the Aids virus in the world and

where men are notorious for having multiple partners and not using a

condom.

"He is sending a

very wrong impression to the youth that if you engage in unprotected

sex the transmission risks are minimal,'' said Ms Nokhwezi Hoboyi, a

spokeswoman for the Treatment Action Campaign.

"A lot of people are looking up to Zuma and he is setting a very bad example in Aids prevention,'' she said.

As head of the Aids

council, Mr Zuma was meant to spearhead government campaigns against

the HIV virus which has infected between 5.3 million and 6 million

people in South Africa. Up to 1,000 people are dying each day of Aids

related diseases and 2.5 million children have lost one or both parents

to Aids and other causes.

A survey last year

Human Sciences Research Council revealed that 66 per cent of

respondents did not think they were at risk of infection – including

just over half of those who tested positive for HIV. "It's absolutely

dreadful, appalling,'' said Ms bel Kanabus, director of the

British-based Aids charity AVERT, which has prevention programmes in

South Africa.

Mr Zuma, who is

still deputy president of the ruling African National Congress and

enjoys strong support among young people, maintains the rape charges

are part of a plot to destroy his lingering hopes of succeeding

President Thabo Mbeki in 2009.

He was sacked as

deputy president last year for alleged involvement in a corruption

scandal and stands trial on those charges in July.

He told the court

in his native Zulu through an interpreter: "As I was growing up as a

young boy, I was told if you get to that stage with a woman and you

don't do anything it is said she will become infuriated with you, that

she may even lay false charges of rape against you.''

The woman testified

that he offered her massage and had sexual intercourse with her in the

guest room. She said that she was so shocked by Mr Zuma's advances that

she froze and did not try to resist.

Yesterday, Mr Zuma

denied claims by the prosecution that he abused his position of power

and authority over the woman, who had known him since she was a child

in exile during the apartheid era. He also tried to refute the

prosecution's arguments that she had confided in him because she saw

him as a father figure after her own father died when she was still

young. (AP)

[Guest guest]

I showered to reduce HIV risk, Zuma tells rape trial Story by JOHANNESBURG, Wednesday Publication Date: 4/6/2006

Former Deputy President

Zuma told a South African court today that he showered after he

had unprotected sex with an HIV-positive woman to reduce the risk of

becoming infected with the Aids virus.

Mr Zuma, a 63-year-old former freedom fighter, is accused of raping the 31-year-old family friend at his home last November.

Mr ZumaMr Zuma says the sex was consensual and initiated by the woman.

The former head of

the country's National Aids Council has said that he did not use a

condom because he believed the risks of him contracting the disease

were minimal.

Under cross

examination today he said that he took a shower after sexual

intercourse with the woman because "it was one of the things that would

minimise contact with the disease.''

Mr Zuma said his

accuser led him to believe she wanted sex by lamenting that she had no

boyfriend and wearing a knee-length skirt when she visited his house.

Mr Zuma insisted

that the woman encouraged his sexual advances by using terms such as

"love'' and "kisses'' as well telling him that she was lonely and had

no boyfriend.

He told the court that her appearance also played a role.

"I put it to you

that she was not interested in you because, number one, you were a

father figure, and because of her lesbian orientation,'' prosecutor

Charin de Beer said.

Mr Zuma, looking

uncomfortable and fidgeting in his chair, disagreed. He said he was

unaware that she was a lesbian and that she had initiated the physical

contact.

"She was the one

who was encouraging me,'' he told the court. When he hesitated because

he did not have a condom, he said she told him: "A woman cannot be left

at that stage when she is already prepared for sex.''

He maintained that

he put her at no risk of re-infection because he "knew for a fact I did

not have HIV,'' even though his last test had been in 1998. Another

test last month confirmed his negative status, he told the court.

His comments

provoked dismay among Aids activists who fear that Mr Zuma's behaviour

will undermine prevention campaigns in South Africa, which has the

highest number of people living with the Aids virus in the world and

where men are notorious for having multiple partners and not using a

condom.

"He is sending a

very wrong impression to the youth that if you engage in unprotected

sex the transmission risks are minimal,'' said Ms Nokhwezi Hoboyi, a

spokeswoman for the Treatment Action Campaign.

"A lot of people are looking up to Zuma and he is setting a very bad example in Aids prevention,'' she said.

As head of the Aids

council, Mr Zuma was meant to spearhead government campaigns against

the HIV virus which has infected between 5.3 million and 6 million

people in South Africa. Up to 1,000 people are dying each day of Aids

related diseases and 2.5 million children have lost one or both parents

to Aids and other causes.

A survey last year

Human Sciences Research Council revealed that 66 per cent of

respondents did not think they were at risk of infection – including

just over half of those who tested positive for HIV. "It's absolutely

dreadful, appalling,'' said Ms bel Kanabus, director of the

British-based Aids charity AVERT, which has prevention programmes in

South Africa.

Mr Zuma, who is

still deputy president of the ruling African National Congress and

enjoys strong support among young people, maintains the rape charges

are part of a plot to destroy his lingering hopes of succeeding

President Thabo Mbeki in 2009.

He was sacked as

deputy president last year for alleged involvement in a corruption

scandal and stands trial on those charges in July.

He told the court

in his native Zulu through an interpreter: "As I was growing up as a

young boy, I was told if you get to that stage with a woman and you

don't do anything it is said she will become infuriated with you, that

she may even lay false charges of rape against you.''

The woman testified

that he offered her massage and had sexual intercourse with her in the

guest room. She said that she was so shocked by Mr Zuma's advances that

she froze and did not try to resist.

Yesterday, Mr Zuma

denied claims by the prosecution that he abused his position of power

and authority over the woman, who had known him since she was a child

in exile during the apartheid era. He also tried to refute the

prosecution's arguments that she had confided in him because she saw

him as a father figure after her own father died when she was still

young. (AP)