Re: [kca_main] Re: Reachout (Kisumu) Needs Help!/response to Wams/HUGE congrats on STOP

[Guest guest]

Ngina and Dauuuu,

Isn't this sad at this age and time? A child is a child!

Thanks Ngina, please spread Benjes word to your friends and have them

commit $ 25 OR WHATEVER THEY CAN each month.

I cry,

Wams

On 9/7/06, otwomad <Otwomad@...> wrote:

>

>

> My dearest Mulamwa,

>

>

> > pregnancies -mostly pregnancies out of incest especially in the Western

> > Province where there is taboo against raising such babies).

>

>

> True true. Incest a long time ago used to result in the man being

> chased from the community, his houses smashed and burned. If he was

> young (not yet married) he got lost in Igbo land (read Luo land) and

> if he had family, after his whole generation had died his siblings

> would return to their ancestors land.

>

> As early as last year a neigbours' at shaggs let a child of an

> incestous relation waste away and die. Very few of us mourned. Maybe

> my children' generation will be able to stomach such children (born

> out of incestous relation). Off course the man was not chased but very

> few of us will sit with him on the same table, even in the bar!

>

> Otwoma

>

>

>

> >

> > Wams, Janet, All,

> > I have also circulated Benjelina's story far and wide, because it

> needs to

> > go far and wide -And you will be shocked, as I am, that many NGOs that

> > support orphaned kids in Kisumu and elsewhere refuse to take in HIV

> positive

> > kids. I was even more shocked the other day when I found out that a

> leading

> > NGO that takes in abandoned infants in the Western Kenya region and

> arranges

> > for their adoption mostly in the developed West (Name of NGO

> withheld) will

> > not take in an abandoned HIV positive infant. (Mostly these would be

> infants

> > abandoned or aborted by teenage mothers, or HIV+ mothers, from unwanted

> > pregnancies -mostly pregnancies out of incest especially in the Western

> > Province where there is taboo against raising such babies). True,

> that as a

> > society we should applaud those that go the extra mile to support

> the very

> > unfortunate in society -but we should also ensure that the processes are

> > fair. The other day a friend who sits on the board of a newly

> established

> > NGO which has established a similar program to Hezekiah's in Siaya

> area came

> > to consult about the same issue - the donors argue that they will not

> > support HIV positive kids in their homes, that they will only support

> > orphaned HIV negative kids ( " as these hold more promise for a future

> and are

> > cheaper to maintain since they don't get sick often and don't require

> > ARVs " ). This very discriminative process would involve having to

> test the

> > kids for HIV (a good thing to do but lots of ethical challenges there

> > depending on your intentions and how you do it), requiring that a

> child must

> > be tested to receive support, and denying support to those that test

> > positive! -WE CANNOT BE MORE DISCRIMINATIVE -scarce resources or not!

> >

> > My friend is now fighting to get all the identified(needy) orphaned kids

> > supported equally regardless of their HIV status.

> >

> > ine.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ngina and Dauuuu,

Isn't this sad at this age and time? A child is a child!

Thanks Ngina, please spread Benjes word to your friends and have them

commit $ 25 OR WHATEVER THEY CAN each month.

I cry,

Wams

On 9/7/06, otwomad <Otwomad@...> wrote:

>

>

> My dearest Mulamwa,

>

>

> > pregnancies -mostly pregnancies out of incest especially in the Western

> > Province where there is taboo against raising such babies).

>

>

> True true. Incest a long time ago used to result in the man being

> chased from the community, his houses smashed and burned. If he was

> young (not yet married) he got lost in Igbo land (read Luo land) and

> if he had family, after his whole generation had died his siblings

> would return to their ancestors land.

>

> As early as last year a neigbours' at shaggs let a child of an

> incestous relation waste away and die. Very few of us mourned. Maybe

> my children' generation will be able to stomach such children (born

> out of incestous relation). Off course the man was not chased but very

> few of us will sit with him on the same table, even in the bar!

>

> Otwoma

>

>

>

> >

> > Wams, Janet, All,

> > I have also circulated Benjelina's story far and wide, because it

> needs to

> > go far and wide -And you will be shocked, as I am, that many NGOs that

> > support orphaned kids in Kisumu and elsewhere refuse to take in HIV

> positive

> > kids. I was even more shocked the other day when I found out that a

> leading

> > NGO that takes in abandoned infants in the Western Kenya region and

> arranges

> > for their adoption mostly in the developed West (Name of NGO

> withheld) will

> > not take in an abandoned HIV positive infant. (Mostly these would be

> infants

> > abandoned or aborted by teenage mothers, or HIV+ mothers, from unwanted

> > pregnancies -mostly pregnancies out of incest especially in the Western

> > Province where there is taboo against raising such babies). True,

> that as a

> > society we should applaud those that go the extra mile to support

> the very

> > unfortunate in society -but we should also ensure that the processes are

> > fair. The other day a friend who sits on the board of a newly

> established

> > NGO which has established a similar program to Hezekiah's in Siaya

> area came

> > to consult about the same issue - the donors argue that they will not

> > support HIV positive kids in their homes, that they will only support

> > orphaned HIV negative kids ( " as these hold more promise for a future

> and are

> > cheaper to maintain since they don't get sick often and don't require

> > ARVs " ). This very discriminative process would involve having to

> test the

> > kids for HIV (a good thing to do but lots of ethical challenges there

> > depending on your intentions and how you do it), requiring that a

> child must

> > be tested to receive support, and denying support to those that test

> > positive! -WE CANNOT BE MORE DISCRIMINATIVE -scarce resources or not!

> >

> > My friend is now fighting to get all the identified(needy) orphaned kids

> > supported equally regardless of their HIV status.

> >

> > ine.

> >

>

>

>

>

>