Re: [KOL] Male circumcision is a political scheme to depopulate the Luos

[Guest guest]

This issue of a person claiming not to be reading mails is cheap and

defeatist. Its like the kid fights where the aggresor covers the ears

and says that " i am not hearing you even if you say that am a dog " .

Wams, you can handle fights in a better way.

On 8/1/08, Margaret Gichuki <Wams2006@...> wrote:

> Surely I can't be all the three *''stupid ignorant and loser''* at the same

> time.Your mail was filtered to my spam mail and when I went to clean up I

> saw a strange name with a familiar header.Before sending you back to the

> spam, why are you so upset about a forwarded article from another

> List.Please keep UP with the news.I don't work for newspapers.

>

> And don't bother to respond because I wont read you.Sorry for disappointing

> you but you are not the the type who can debate HIV/AIDS without going

> ballistic.

>

> Have a healthy LIFE!

>

> On 7/29/08, nasimiyu prexidis <musuyat@...> wrote:

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>> m-michuki you are stupid ignorant and loser

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>> > This fellow is making very wild and serious allegations. Read on.

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>> > Male circumcision is a political scheme to depopulate the Luos

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>> > By Rev Okoth Otura

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>> > www.eactmf.org

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>> > In the 1980's the Kenya government under Ex-President Moi, perceived Luo

> wife inheritance, polygamy and " Chira " traditions and customs cultural

> practices as the main cause and reason of high rate of HIV/Aids death in

> Nyanza, the theory which his regime use as tool to eliminates Luos

> dissidents and population through Health Care Services across the board.

>> >

>> > The late Jaramogi Oginga Odinga security intelligence established under

> classified information in 1990's, that all Government Hospitals and Clinics

> in Luo Nyanza were supplied with un-sterile Medical Instruments and thus,

> many HIV/Aids infections were spread through Un-sterile Medical Injections,

> Dental/Surgeon Instruments, contaminated multy-dose vials, maternity

> delivery rooms,( luo children umbilical cords were cut by un-sterile

> instruments)

>> >

>> > A part from other HIV/Aids contraction super highway in luoland, the

> Kenya government significantly contributed through Health Care Services of

> transmission and spread among the Luos in Kenya as a persecution due to

> their opposition stand against the corruption government system.

>> >

>> > Despites all these the Luos still overcame this atrocities, and latter

> Moi had to declare the HIV/Aids a disaster after other tribes were infection

> increased in alarming rate.

>> >

>> > Meanwhile, I support the Luo Counsel of Elders stand to resist the

> current attempt by the Kenya government to impose male circumcision a health

> policy on luos. The scientific experience which has failed elsewhere should

> not be used on the luos just for the sake to please the West. We are

> perplexed with perpetuation of the Kenya government to have the Luos whip

> out on the Kenyan map. Let consider:

>> >

>> > · Uganda is the leading country in prevention against HIV/Aids in world,

> with the entire tribes not practicing circumcisions except the Bagisu and

> the Muslims, and yet they rejected the male circumcision, even threaten to

> ban the tradition and practice.

>> >

>> > · South Africa is the hardest hit with HIV/AIDS despite male

> circumcision as customary practice by all the tribes and with provision the

> best Health Care system in the world.

>> >

>> > Some luo elites heads the most busy body NGO's in Kenya under the

> influenced of the west and therefore, instead of majoring on the major cause

> of spread of HIV/Aids which is mainly cultural sexual behavioral, poor

> Health Care Services and poverty, they decided to have Luo community to be

> their 'money bag' 'Ginny pig' (By trial and Error) for west.

>> >

>> > In fact the HIV/Aids among the west is currently spreading in threaten

> pace, and yet they are not circumcised. Why don't they have their people

> frog match for forceful circumcision before imposition fail system on the

> Africans?

>> >

>> > It devastating for the Luos MPs to keep silent

>> >

>> > The battle on the HIV/Aids needs political will, the Luos MP's and

> Leaders must step up campaign against this busy body NGO's trying to

> intimidated and spread stigma among the luo community.

>> >

>> > http://majimbokenya .com/home/ 2008/07/23/ male-circumcisio

> n-is-a-political -scheme-to- depopulate- the-luos- in-kenya/

>> >

>> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ ________

>>

>

[Guest guest]

This issue of a person claiming not to be reading mails is cheap and

defeatist. Its like the kid fights where the aggresor covers the ears

and says that " i am not hearing you even if you say that am a dog " .

Wams, you can handle fights in a better way.

On 8/1/08, Margaret Gichuki <Wams2006@...> wrote:

> Surely I can't be all the three *''stupid ignorant and loser''* at the same

> time.Your mail was filtered to my spam mail and when I went to clean up I

> saw a strange name with a familiar header.Before sending you back to the

> spam, why are you so upset about a forwarded article from another

> List.Please keep UP with the news.I don't work for newspapers.

>

> And don't bother to respond because I wont read you.Sorry for disappointing

> you but you are not the the type who can debate HIV/AIDS without going

> ballistic.

>

> Have a healthy LIFE!

>

> On 7/29/08, nasimiyu prexidis <musuyat@...> wrote:

>>

>>

>

>> m-michuki you are stupid ignorant and loser

>>

>>

>> >

>>

>> >

>> > This fellow is making very wild and serious allegations. Read on.

>> >

>>

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > Male circumcision is a political scheme to depopulate the Luos

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > By Rev Okoth Otura

>> >

>> > www.eactmf.org

>> >

>> > In the 1980's the Kenya government under Ex-President Moi, perceived Luo

> wife inheritance, polygamy and " Chira " traditions and customs cultural

> practices as the main cause and reason of high rate of HIV/Aids death in

> Nyanza, the theory which his regime use as tool to eliminates Luos

> dissidents and population through Health Care Services across the board.

>> >

>> > The late Jaramogi Oginga Odinga security intelligence established under

> classified information in 1990's, that all Government Hospitals and Clinics

> in Luo Nyanza were supplied with un-sterile Medical Instruments and thus,

> many HIV/Aids infections were spread through Un-sterile Medical Injections,

> Dental/Surgeon Instruments, contaminated multy-dose vials, maternity

> delivery rooms,( luo children umbilical cords were cut by un-sterile

> instruments)

>> >

>> > A part from other HIV/Aids contraction super highway in luoland, the

> Kenya government significantly contributed through Health Care Services of

> transmission and spread among the Luos in Kenya as a persecution due to

> their opposition stand against the corruption government system.

>> >

>> > Despites all these the Luos still overcame this atrocities, and latter

> Moi had to declare the HIV/Aids a disaster after other tribes were infection

> increased in alarming rate.

>> >

>> > Meanwhile, I support the Luo Counsel of Elders stand to resist the

> current attempt by the Kenya government to impose male circumcision a health

> policy on luos. The scientific experience which has failed elsewhere should

> not be used on the luos just for the sake to please the West. We are

> perplexed with perpetuation of the Kenya government to have the Luos whip

> out on the Kenyan map. Let consider:

>> >

>> > · Uganda is the leading country in prevention against HIV/Aids in world,

> with the entire tribes not practicing circumcisions except the Bagisu and

> the Muslims, and yet they rejected the male circumcision, even threaten to

> ban the tradition and practice.

>> >

>> > · South Africa is the hardest hit with HIV/AIDS despite male

> circumcision as customary practice by all the tribes and with provision the

> best Health Care system in the world.

>> >

>> > Some luo elites heads the most busy body NGO's in Kenya under the

> influenced of the west and therefore, instead of majoring on the major cause

> of spread of HIV/Aids which is mainly cultural sexual behavioral, poor

> Health Care Services and poverty, they decided to have Luo community to be

> their 'money bag' 'Ginny pig' (By trial and Error) for west.

>> >

>> > In fact the HIV/Aids among the west is currently spreading in threaten

> pace, and yet they are not circumcised. Why don't they have their people

> frog match for forceful circumcision before imposition fail system on the

> Africans?

>> >

>> > It devastating for the Luos MPs to keep silent

>> >

>> > The battle on the HIV/Aids needs political will, the Luos MP's and

> Leaders must step up campaign against this busy body NGO's trying to

> intimidated and spread stigma among the luo community.

>> >

>> > http://majimbokenya .com/home/ 2008/07/23/ male-circumcisio

> n-is-a-political -scheme-to- depopulate- the-luos- in-kenya/

>> >

>> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ ________

>>

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