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At 12:21 PM 8/18/01 -0400, JTesmer799@... wrote:

>we're at this point already, just . hehe. it's nice in a way....no more

>dirty dishes left in the living room. no more mount laundry. no more

>wondering when whoever will be home. etc etc.... oh well, such is life. :-)

>

>

>Joy

Hi Joy,

My 2 older boys are gone also. Well the 20 yr old is off to college

and the 17 yr old lives at my mom's since he doesn't have a car and

can walk to his high school. It is nice in that way but I do miss them.

Gail

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Sounds to me as though your family has a great life, ! Don't wear out

that goat! :^)

Hugs,

granny

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learns to be amused rather than shocked. "

-- Pearl S. Buck

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> Hmmmm.. overscheduling, well, we have a full house with our 5 kids and 3

> foster kids and all sorts of friends in and out. And the kids are all

> involved in activities like Confirmation, 4H, soccer, stuff like that.

BUT,

> we all do it as a family. takes a week off during the fair and he

and

> the older kids camp out at the 4H grounds. We coach soccer and the whole

> family is there to either watch babies or help coach. When I had the

> jumprope club, the kids were either in it or assistants to me. All the

kids

> know how to feed, bath and change babies, everyone and most of their

friends

> know how to do Mav's speech exercises and how to calm a screaming drug

> exposed baby.

> Dinner, well, it's a family affair from fixing it to eating it to cleaning

> up. We all enjoy trying new dishes, making jerky, goats cheese, stuff

like

> that.

> As far as spending time alone,,,, I don't want to waste ANY of my

children's

> childhood trying to escape them! (But, if I REALLY need a break, I can

go

> milk the goat or shovel manure....I'm alone THEN for sure!!)

> Maybe it's not so much WHAT all our kids are doing, but how we are doing

it

> that makes a difference in the quality of lifestyles. It sounds to me

like

> most people on this list honor the family time that they have together

even

> with the necessity of busy schedules with extra therapy's, meetings, and

Dr.

> appts.

>

>

>

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Sounds to me as though your family has a great life, ! Don't wear out

that goat! :^)

Hugs,

granny

---

" Perhaps one has to be very old before one

learns to be amused rather than shocked. "

-- Pearl S. Buck

http://www.bspyle.com/granny.html

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> Hmmmm.. overscheduling, well, we have a full house with our 5 kids and 3

> foster kids and all sorts of friends in and out. And the kids are all

> involved in activities like Confirmation, 4H, soccer, stuff like that.

BUT,

> we all do it as a family. takes a week off during the fair and he

and

> the older kids camp out at the 4H grounds. We coach soccer and the whole

> family is there to either watch babies or help coach. When I had the

> jumprope club, the kids were either in it or assistants to me. All the

kids

> know how to feed, bath and change babies, everyone and most of their

friends

> know how to do Mav's speech exercises and how to calm a screaming drug

> exposed baby.

> Dinner, well, it's a family affair from fixing it to eating it to cleaning

> up. We all enjoy trying new dishes, making jerky, goats cheese, stuff

like

> that.

> As far as spending time alone,,,, I don't want to waste ANY of my

children's

> childhood trying to escape them! (But, if I REALLY need a break, I can

go

> milk the goat or shovel manure....I'm alone THEN for sure!!)

> Maybe it's not so much WHAT all our kids are doing, but how we are doing

it

> that makes a difference in the quality of lifestyles. It sounds to me

like

> most people on this list honor the family time that they have together

even

> with the necessity of busy schedules with extra therapy's, meetings, and

Dr.

> appts.

>

>

>

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> Wow... NONE of those applies to me! Of course... does no time for

> housecleaning count??

>

> Connie

LOL! Housework never gets done anyway, so why knock yourself out. :^)

granny

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" Perhaps one has to be very old before one

learns to be amused rather than shocked. "

-- Pearl S. Buck

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> Wow... NONE of those applies to me! Of course... does no time for

> housecleaning count??

>

> Connie

LOL! Housework never gets done anyway, so why knock yourself out. :^)

granny

---

" Perhaps one has to be very old before one

learns to be amused rather than shocked. "

-- Pearl S. Buck

http://www.bspyle.com/granny.html

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Sad, . I read about a group of families in Detroit or Chicago or

somewhere up North, who rebelled against this lifestyle, organized into a

" families first " club and put their foot down about all the overscheduling.

Children have a right to just go outside and play with their chums and Mamas

have a right to lock the door! :^)

granny

---

" Perhaps one has to be very old before one

learns to be amused rather than shocked. "

-- Pearl S. Buck

http://www.bspyle.com/granny.html

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> Granny - I agree with you 100% - as a society we ARE WAY overscheduled.

BUT - it's almost as if you have no choice. You can't play with your

neighbors because they are never home - they are too busy with THEIR busy

schedules. SO in order to make friends and be involved - you almost HAVE to

join teams, classes, etc. I absolutely LOVED the few times this summer that

our neighbors spontaneously came over to play in our backyard or invited my

kids over. It was rare and unless it was absolutely impossible - when they

asked - I made it happen.

>

> I wish my kids could have more of a childhood like I had - my mom (with 5

kids within 7 years) came just short of sending us outside to play and

locking the door. Ahhh - the memories:):):)

>

> in Dallas

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Sad, . I read about a group of families in Detroit or Chicago or

somewhere up North, who rebelled against this lifestyle, organized into a

" families first " club and put their foot down about all the overscheduling.

Children have a right to just go outside and play with their chums and Mamas

have a right to lock the door! :^)

granny

---

" Perhaps one has to be very old before one

learns to be amused rather than shocked. "

-- Pearl S. Buck

http://www.bspyle.com/granny.html

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> Granny - I agree with you 100% - as a society we ARE WAY overscheduled.

BUT - it's almost as if you have no choice. You can't play with your

neighbors because they are never home - they are too busy with THEIR busy

schedules. SO in order to make friends and be involved - you almost HAVE to

join teams, classes, etc. I absolutely LOVED the few times this summer that

our neighbors spontaneously came over to play in our backyard or invited my

kids over. It was rare and unless it was absolutely impossible - when they

asked - I made it happen.

>

> I wish my kids could have more of a childhood like I had - my mom (with 5

kids within 7 years) came just short of sending us outside to play and

locking the door. Ahhh - the memories:):):)

>

> in Dallas

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> It has gotten way, way, way, way, way out of control. Unfortunately, it

is

> too late to turn the clocks back, and believe me, I try in my own small

ways

> to reject the way our society has gotten.

It may not be too late at all, Jackie. Have you talked to other parents

about how you feel? Perhaps you can get together, put your foot down and say

" No more! " Then send your kids out to play in the yard and lock the door.

:^)

granny

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" Perhaps one has to be very old before one

learns to be amused rather than shocked. "

-- Pearl S. Buck

http://www.bspyle.com/granny.html

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> It has gotten way, way, way, way, way out of control. Unfortunately, it

is

> too late to turn the clocks back, and believe me, I try in my own small

ways

> to reject the way our society has gotten.

It may not be too late at all, Jackie. Have you talked to other parents

about how you feel? Perhaps you can get together, put your foot down and say

" No more! " Then send your kids out to play in the yard and lock the door.

:^)

granny

---

" Perhaps one has to be very old before one

learns to be amused rather than shocked. "

-- Pearl S. Buck

http://www.bspyle.com/granny.html

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Yours is a family in control of their lives, Sharon. Congratulations!

granny

---

" Perhaps one has to be very old before one

learns to be amused rather than shocked. "

-- Pearl S. Buck

http://www.bspyle.com/granny.html

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> I missed the original posting on this, and am limited on

> internet time until we can move in our house.

>

> Overscheduling, in my opinion, is a very dangerous thing

> for children these days. I know high schoolers who are

> using day planners to keep their lives straight because

> they are so busy, and so involved in things. One girl,

> in particular, hasn't been home before 9 pm in 2 weeks,

> and she is 16 years old.

>

> I think parents are very guilty of this. So many

> parents want their children to have so much and to be

> able to do so much, and are not showing their children

> how to prioritize, how to problem solve, and how to say

> no.

>

> Granny, I agree with everything in the attached post. I

> have had parents look at me like I was crazy when I say

> I limit out of home activities. One mother even

> questioned my parenting skills. I didn't bother to try

> to explain, she wouldn't understand.

>

> When I was growing up, Sundays were always Family Days.

> After church, we always ate together, ( it may have only

> been sandwiches some times, but we were together). Then

> we were always together the rest of the day. My hubby

> and I have continued this, and wouldn't trade our quiet

> Sundays. However, if the kids have been invited to a

> party, we do go, all together.

>

> Anyway, that is my 2 cents. I could continue on, cite

> statistics, etc., and really get on my soapbox, or quote

> some old standards (Kids need time to be kids. The

> family that prays together, stays together, for a

> couple).

>

> Right on Granny

>

> --

> Sharon, Mom to (9, DS) and

> (6)

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Yours is a family in control of their lives, Sharon. Congratulations!

granny

---

" Perhaps one has to be very old before one

learns to be amused rather than shocked. "

-- Pearl S. Buck

http://www.bspyle.com/granny.html

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> I missed the original posting on this, and am limited on

> internet time until we can move in our house.

>

> Overscheduling, in my opinion, is a very dangerous thing

> for children these days. I know high schoolers who are

> using day planners to keep their lives straight because

> they are so busy, and so involved in things. One girl,

> in particular, hasn't been home before 9 pm in 2 weeks,

> and she is 16 years old.

>

> I think parents are very guilty of this. So many

> parents want their children to have so much and to be

> able to do so much, and are not showing their children

> how to prioritize, how to problem solve, and how to say

> no.

>

> Granny, I agree with everything in the attached post. I

> have had parents look at me like I was crazy when I say

> I limit out of home activities. One mother even

> questioned my parenting skills. I didn't bother to try

> to explain, she wouldn't understand.

>

> When I was growing up, Sundays were always Family Days.

> After church, we always ate together, ( it may have only

> been sandwiches some times, but we were together). Then

> we were always together the rest of the day. My hubby

> and I have continued this, and wouldn't trade our quiet

> Sundays. However, if the kids have been invited to a

> party, we do go, all together.

>

> Anyway, that is my 2 cents. I could continue on, cite

> statistics, etc., and really get on my soapbox, or quote

> some old standards (Kids need time to be kids. The

> family that prays together, stays together, for a

> couple).

>

> Right on Granny

>

> --

> Sharon, Mom to (9, DS) and

> (6)

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I don't know any families that meet your criteria for overscheduling. I

don't think there is anything more fun than rooting for my kids (or my

husband) and their teams during their " seasons. " I am going to be one sad

mom when I can't do that any more, I may have to go root for someone else's

kids!! ;-) Not only is it fun to cheer on your own kids, it is such good

community fun to cheer on the others and make sure kids have good examples of

good sportsmanship. There's nothing better than watching boys play baseball

with exhuberance!! I have rung an antique cow bell at my son's games since

he was five, he and his teammates expect to hear it when they do well! I

have got to figure out a way to sneak that bell into graduation so I can ring

it for them! ;-)

Cheryl in VA

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I don't know any families that meet your criteria for overscheduling. I

don't think there is anything more fun than rooting for my kids (or my

husband) and their teams during their " seasons. " I am going to be one sad

mom when I can't do that any more, I may have to go root for someone else's

kids!! ;-) Not only is it fun to cheer on your own kids, it is such good

community fun to cheer on the others and make sure kids have good examples of

good sportsmanship. There's nothing better than watching boys play baseball

with exhuberance!! I have rung an antique cow bell at my son's games since

he was five, he and his teammates expect to hear it when they do well! I

have got to figure out a way to sneak that bell into graduation so I can ring

it for them! ;-)

Cheryl in VA

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In a message dated 8/18/2001 5:30:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

Michdock@... writes:

> Maybe it's not so much WHAT all our kids are doing, but how we are doing it

> that makes a difference in the quality of lifestyles. It sounds to me

> like

> most people on this list honor the family time that they have together even

> with the necessity of busy schedules with extra therapy's, meetings, and

> Dr.

> appts.

>

Excellent observation , I totally agree! We have excellent parenting

shining through on this list!

Cheryl in VA

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In a message dated 8/18/2001 5:30:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

Michdock@... writes:

> Maybe it's not so much WHAT all our kids are doing, but how we are doing it

> that makes a difference in the quality of lifestyles. It sounds to me

> like

> most people on this list honor the family time that they have together even

> with the necessity of busy schedules with extra therapy's, meetings, and

> Dr.

> appts.

>

Excellent observation , I totally agree! We have excellent parenting

shining through on this list!

Cheryl in VA

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> Overscheduling, in my opinion, is a very dangerous thing

> for children these days. I know high schoolers who are

> using day planners to keep their lives straight because

> they are so busy, and so involved in things.

Sharon,

You are right about overscheduling. There is a fine line between being

overscheduled and being really busy. I worry about the kids who are

scheduled to death. They don't know what it's like to be bored. At some

point in their lives, they will be bored and have a hard time coping with

this. They often turn to abusing substances. Quality family time may be

boring to some kids, but then they will get use to that! LOL. Our family

time is Sunday nights, the calm before the storm (Monday mornings!).

ps our high school students are given daily planner at school!

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> Overscheduling, in my opinion, is a very dangerous thing

> for children these days. I know high schoolers who are

> using day planners to keep their lives straight because

> they are so busy, and so involved in things.

Sharon,

You are right about overscheduling. There is a fine line between being

overscheduled and being really busy. I worry about the kids who are

scheduled to death. They don't know what it's like to be bored. At some

point in their lives, they will be bored and have a hard time coping with

this. They often turn to abusing substances. Quality family time may be

boring to some kids, but then they will get use to that! LOL. Our family

time is Sunday nights, the calm before the storm (Monday mornings!).

ps our high school students are given daily planner at school!

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