Re: Re: not new hiv propaganda

December 27, 2011

low T cells are good for you and Willmer. They are not good for me. I

want them as high as I can get them.

Re: not new hiv propaganda

,

I do continue to get monitored, not because I believe in all this nonsense,

but to show my doctors and others that their theories are wrong. My last t-cells

were 45 and my viral load was over 7million. Don't you think that if I had 7

million of an actual virus that I would be extremely sick? You are right they

use these useless tests to scare people into taking the meds.

Go to YouTube and watch " deadly deception " by willner and learn how low

cd4's are a good thing. Watch dr. Willner inject himself with HIV positive

blood.

I hope that you will check out my new book which is currently at the publisher

entitled, AIDS THEY SUCKERED US. (AIDS Biggest Medical Blunder In History).

> >

> > > " My doctor told me he has seen the hiv virus under a microscope and has

> > > pictures "

> > >

> > > Oh, just the same old electron microscope stuff which is not how the

> > > existence or presence of a virus is proven. There still has not been any

> > > isolation of HIV virus. You can google those electron microscope

> > pictures.

> > >

> > > Nothing new said in these HIV drug advertising posts coming in together.

> > > We heard the same supposed replication and attack modus twenty years

> > ago.

> > > That unproven theory was always part of the scare tactic.

> > >

> > > What the PCR test inventor says about HIV PCR testing is that the sample

> > > is too watered down and no reason is given for conspicuously and

> > > unscientifically and suspiciously unscientifically, with vested

> > interest,

> > > diluting the sample so that the test becomes invalid as far as proving

> > HIV

> > > is present or that HIV exists. Then when real tests are given they prove

> > > that the dna fragments belong to fifty pathogens and/or recent

> > pregnancy.

> > > Needless to say, HIV PCR testing does not exclude dozens of more likely

> > > causes of a positive result, much less prove HIV exists.

> > >

> > > We have been over this ground many times, and to do so again and again

> > is

> > > not the purpose of this group. We are hear to begin with agreement that

> > HIV

> > > does not exist or if there is a retrovirus it does no harm, and then to

> > > discuss the real problems, including healing damage from HIV drugs, and

> > how

> > > people are addressing the lifestyle illnesses and opportunistic

> > infections,

> > > whether those are lifestyle or HIV drug caused infections.

> > >

December 28, 2011

Someone else on here once said if could be yeast that shows up in the PCR

tests. Mine has been around 50,000 lately, and even the doc says that's no

big deal.

I will definitely get your book and watch the movie when I get a chance.

Thanks,

On Dec 27, 2011 7:13 AM, " livingwithouthivmeds " <noreenelaine@...>

wrote:

>

> ,

>

> I do continue to get monitored, not because I believe in all this

> nonsense, but to show my doctors and others that their theories are wrong.

> My last t-cells were 45 and my viral load was over 7million. Don't you

> think that if I had 7 million of an actual virus that I would be extremely

> sick? You are right they use these useless tests to scare people into

> taking the meds.

>

> Go to YouTube and watch " deadly deception " by willner and learn how

> low cd4's are a good thing. Watch dr. Willner inject himself with HIV

> positive blood.

>

> I hope that you will check out my new book which is currently at the

> publisher entitled, AIDS THEY SUCKERED US. (AIDS Biggest Medical Blunder In

> History).

>

> > >

> > > > " My doctor told me he has seen the hiv virus under a microscope and

> has

> > > > pictures "

> > > >

> > > > Oh, just the same old electron microscope stuff which is not how the

> > > > existence or presence of a virus is proven. There still has not

> been any

> > > > isolation of HIV virus. You can google those electron microscope

> > > pictures.

> > > >

> > > > Nothing new said in these HIV drug advertising posts coming in

> together.

> > > > We heard the same supposed replication and attack modus twenty years

> > > ago.

> > > > That unproven theory was always part of the scare tactic.

> > > >

> > > > What the PCR test inventor says about HIV PCR testing is that the

> sample

> > > > is too watered down and no reason is given for conspicuously and

> > > > unscientifically and suspiciously unscientifically, with vested

> > > interest,

> > > > diluting the sample so that the test becomes invalid as far as

> proving

> > > HIV

> > > > is present or that HIV exists. Then when real tests are given they

> prove

> > > > that the dna fragments belong to fifty pathogens and/or recent

> > > pregnancy.

> > > > Needless to say, HIV PCR testing does not exclude dozens of more

> likely

> > > > causes of a positive result, much less prove HIV exists.

> > > >

> > > > We have been over this ground many times, and to do so again and

> again

> > > is

> > > > not the purpose of this group. We are hear to begin with agreement

> that

> > > HIV

> > > > does not exist or if there is a retrovirus it does no harm, and

> then to

> > > > discuss the real problems, including healing damage from HIV drugs,

> and

> > > how

> > > > people are addressing the lifestyle illnesses and opportunistic

> > > infections,

> > > > whether those are lifestyle or HIV drug caused infections.

> > > >

December 29, 2011

AZT raises T-Cells why don't you get on that?Â T-Cells on the blood don't

matter the only way you're going to get them raised is through chemo therapy

like AZT or poisons that deplete the bone marrow.Â The more you damage your

body the more T-Cells are going to be produced in the blood to make their way to

the bone marrow (which is the source of the T-cells) to fix the damage done by

the ARV's

________________________________

From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...>

cures for AIDS

Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 11:54 AM

Subject: Re: Re: not new hiv propaganda

Â

low T cells are good for you and Willmer. They are not good for me. I

want them as high as I can get them.

Re: not new hiv propaganda

,

I do continue to get monitored, not because I believe in all this nonsense, but

to show my doctors and others that their theories are wrong. My last t-cells

were 45 and my viral load was over 7million. Don't you think that if I had 7

million of an actual virus that I would be extremely sick? You are right they

use these useless tests to scare people into taking the meds.

Go to YouTube and watch " deadly deception " by willner and learn how low

cd4's are a good thing. Watch dr. Willner inject himself with HIV positive

blood.

I hope that you will check out my new book which is currently at the publisher

entitled, AIDS THEY SUCKERED US. (AIDS Biggest Medical Blunder In History).

> >

> > > " My doctor told me he has seen the hiv virus under a microscope and has

> > > pictures "

> > >

> > > Oh, just the same old electron microscope stuff which is not how the

> > > existence or presence of a virus is proven. There still has not been any

> > > isolation of HIV virus. You can google those electron microscope

> > pictures.

> > >

> > > Nothing new said in these HIV drug advertising posts coming in together.

> > > We heard the same supposed replication and attack modus twenty years

> > ago.

> > > That unproven theory was always part of the scare tactic.

> > >

> > > What the PCR test inventor says about HIV PCR testing is that the sample

> > > is too watered down and no reason is given for conspicuously and

> > > unscientifically and suspiciously unscientifically, with vested

> > interest,

> > > diluting the sample so that the test becomes invalid as far as proving

> > HIV

> > > is present or that HIV exists. Then when real tests are given they prove

> > > that the dna fragments belong to fifty pathogens and/or recent

> > pregnancy.

> > > Needless to say, HIV PCR testing does not exclude dozens of more likely

> > > causes of a positive result, much less prove HIV exists.

> > >

> > > We have been over this ground many times, and to do so again and again

> > is

> > > not the purpose of this group. We are hear to begin with agreement that

> > HIV

> > > does not exist or if there is a retrovirus it does no harm, and then to

> > > discuss the real problems, including healing damage from HIV drugs, and

> > how

> > > people are addressing the lifestyle illnesses and opportunistic

> > infections,

> > > whether those are lifestyle or HIV drug caused infections.

> > >

December 30, 2011

Ok Don, I just joined facebook.Â I typed in " Rethinking Aids " and saw more than

one group.Â Which one of these groups are you apart of?Â I need to start

talking to these people ASAP!

Randall

________________________________

From: Don <donjuan69uni@...>

" cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS >

Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:28 PM

Subject: Re: Re: not new hiv propaganda

Â

AZT raises T-Cells why don't you get on that?Â T-Cells on the blood don't

matter the only way you're going to get them raised is through chemo therapy

like AZT or poisons that deplete the bone marrow.Â The more you damage your

body the more T-Cells are going to be produced in the blood to make their way to

the bone marrow (which is the source of the T-cells) to fix the damage done by

the ARV's

________________________________

From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...>

cures for AIDS

Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 11:54 AM

Subject: Re: Re: not new hiv propaganda

Â

low T cells are good for you and Willmer. They are not good for me. I

want them as high as I can get them.

Re: not new hiv propaganda

,

I do continue to get monitored, not because I believe in all this nonsense, but

to show my doctors and others that their theories are wrong. My last t-cells

were 45 and my viral load was over 7million. Don't you think that if I had 7

million of an actual virus that I would be extremely sick? You are right they

use these useless tests to scare people into taking the meds.

Go to YouTube and watch " deadly deception " by willner and learn how low

cd4's are a good thing. Watch dr. Willner inject himself with HIV positive

blood.

I hope that you will check out my new book which is currently at the publisher

entitled, AIDS THEY SUCKERED US. (AIDS Biggest Medical Blunder In History).

> >

> > > " My doctor told me he has seen the hiv virus under a microscope and has

> > > pictures "

> > >

> > > Oh, just the same old electron microscope stuff which is not how the

> > > existence or presence of a virus is proven. There still has not been any

> > > isolation of HIV virus. You can google those electron microscope

> > pictures.

> > >

> > > Nothing new said in these HIV drug advertising posts coming in together.

> > > We heard the same supposed replication and attack modus twenty years

> > ago.

> > > That unproven theory was always part of the scare tactic.

> > >

> > > What the PCR test inventor says about HIV PCR testing is that the sample

> > > is too watered down and no reason is given for conspicuously and

> > > unscientifically and suspiciously unscientifically, with vested

> > interest,

> > > diluting the sample so that the test becomes invalid as far as proving

> > HIV

> > > is present or that HIV exists. Then when real tests are given they prove

> > > that the dna fragments belong to fifty pathogens and/or recent

> > pregnancy.

> > > Needless to say, HIV PCR testing does not exclude dozens of more likely

> > > causes of a positive result, much less prove HIV exists.

> > >

> > > We have been over this ground many times, and to do so again and again

> > is

> > > not the purpose of this group. We are hear to begin with agreement that

> > HIV

> > > does not exist or if there is a retrovirus it does no harm, and then to

> > > discuss the real problems, including healing damage from HIV drugs, and

> > how

> > > people are addressing the lifestyle illnesses and opportunistic

> > infections,

> > > whether those are lifestyle or HIV drug caused infections.

> > >

December 30, 2011

Randall,

This is the typical crap that Don spews out. One would think he knows there is

more than one group by that name on facebook. All he does is screws up people in

this group who are really looking for truth and answers. What he tells you to do

go the other way and you'll be alright. Facebook is a good place for Don. The

more he is there the less he is here.

Re: not new hiv propaganda

,

I do continue to get monitored, not because I believe in all this nonsense,

but to show my doctors and others that their theories are wrong. My last t-cells

were 45 and my viral load was over 7million. Don't you think that if I had 7

million of an actual virus that I would be extremely sick? You are right they

use these useless tests to scare people into taking the meds.

Go to YouTube and watch " deadly deception " by willner and learn how low

cd4's are a good thing. Watch dr. Willner inject himself with HIV positive

blood.

I hope that you will check out my new book which is currently at the publisher

entitled, AIDS THEY SUCKERED US. (AIDS Biggest Medical Blunder In History).

> >

> > > " My doctor told me he has seen the hiv virus under a microscope and has

> > > pictures "

> > >

> > > Oh, just the same old electron microscope stuff which is not how the

> > > existence or presence of a virus is proven. There still has not been any

> > > isolation of HIV virus. You can google those electron microscope

> > pictures.

> > >

> > > Nothing new said in these HIV drug advertising posts coming in together.

> > > We heard the same supposed replication and attack modus twenty years

> > ago.

> > > That unproven theory was always part of the scare tactic.

> > >

> > > What the PCR test inventor says about HIV PCR testing is that the sample

> > > is too watered down and no reason is given for conspicuously and

> > > unscientifically and suspiciously unscientifically, with vested

> > interest,

> > > diluting the sample so that the test becomes invalid as far as proving

> > HIV

> > > is present or that HIV exists. Then when real tests are given they prove

> > > that the dna fragments belong to fifty pathogens and/or recent

> > pregnancy.

> > > Needless to say, HIV PCR testing does not exclude dozens of more likely

> > > causes of a positive result, much less prove HIV exists.

> > >

> > > We have been over this ground many times, and to do so again and again

> > is

> > > not the purpose of this group. We are hear to begin with agreement that

> > HIV

> > > does not exist or if there is a retrovirus it does no harm, and then to

> > > discuss the real problems, including healing damage from HIV drugs, and

> > how

> > > people are addressing the lifestyle illnesses and opportunistic

> > infections,

> > > whether those are lifestyle or HIV drug caused infections.

> > >

December 31, 2011

You two are entertaining with your polar opposite views. Reminds me of

democrats and republicans, at least as portrayed on the so called news.

They seem to take exact opposite views in everything, although the end

result both profess to want is a prosperous, free nation. I could go

further into politics, but this isn't the place for it. But my point is,

Doug and Don both would seem to have the goal of a healthy body free of

disease. The difference is due to beliefs about how to get there. I'm

sure both have made the rest of us think, and perhaps the name-calling is

amusing to some, but it would be more useful to the group if differences

were debated intelligently.

Much like the media politicos that spout off about the talking points of

the day, sometimes it seems that opposing medical theories are just being

repeated over and over, without referring to any research that backs them

up, or references to sources, testimonials, etc.

My 2 cents,

On Dec 31, 2011 12:36 AM, " DOUG MAN " <dougman1@...> wrote:

> Randall,

> This is the typical crap that Don spews out. One would think he knows

> there is more than one group by that name on facebook. All he does is

> screws up people in this group who are really looking for truth and

> answers. What he tells you to do go the other way and you'll be alright.

> Facebook is a good place for Don. The more he is there the less he is here.

>

> Re: not new hiv propaganda

>

> ,

>

> I do continue to get monitored, not because I believe in all this

> nonsense, but to show my doctors and others that their theories are wrong.

> My last t-cells were 45 and my viral load was over 7million. Don't you

> think that if I had 7 million of an actual virus that I would be extremely

> sick? You are right they use these useless tests to scare people into

> taking the meds.

>

> Go to YouTube and watch " deadly deception " by willner and learn

> how low cd4's are a good thing. Watch dr. Willner inject himself with HIV

> positive blood.

>

> I hope that you will check out my new book which is currently at the

> publisher entitled, AIDS THEY SUCKERED US. (AIDS Biggest Medical Blunder In

> History).

>

> > >

> > > > " My doctor told me he has seen the hiv virus under a microscope and

> has

> > > > pictures "

> > > >

> > > > Oh, just the same old electron microscope stuff which is not how the

> > > > existence or presence of a virus is proven. There still has not

> been any

> > > > isolation of HIV virus. You can google those electron microscope

> > > pictures.

> > > >

> > > > Nothing new said in these HIV drug advertising posts coming in

> together.

> > > > We heard the same supposed replication and attack modus twenty years

> > > ago.

> > > > That unproven theory was always part of the scare tactic.

> > > >

> > > > What the PCR test inventor says about HIV PCR testing is that the

> sample

> > > > is too watered down and no reason is given for conspicuously and

> > > > unscientifically and suspiciously unscientifically, with vested

> > > interest,

> > > > diluting the sample so that the test becomes invalid as far as

> proving

> > > HIV

> > > > is present or that HIV exists. Then when real tests are given they

> prove

> > > > that the dna fragments belong to fifty pathogens and/or recent

> > > pregnancy.

> > > > Needless to say, HIV PCR testing does not exclude dozens of more

> likely

> > > > causes of a positive result, much less prove HIV exists.

> > > >

> > > > We have been over this ground many times, and to do so again and

> again

> > > is

> > > > not the purpose of this group. We are hear to begin with agreement

> that

> > > HIV

> > > > does not exist or if there is a retrovirus it does no harm, and

> then to

> > > > discuss the real problems, including healing damage from HIV drugs,

> and

> > > how

> > > > people are addressing the lifestyle illnesses and opportunistic

> > > infections,

> > > > whether those are lifestyle or HIV drug caused infections.

> > > >

January 1, 2012

here is the linkhttp://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/RethinkingAIDS/

hope the link works

________________________________

From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...>

" cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS >

Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 7:00 PM

Subject: Re: Re: not new hiv propaganda

Â

Ok Don, I just joined facebook.Â I typed in " Rethinking Aids " and saw more than

one group.Â Which one of these groups are you apart of?Â I need to start

talking to these people ASAP!

Randall

________________________________

From: Don <donjuan69uni@...>

" cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS >

Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:28 PM

Subject: Re: Re: not new hiv propaganda

Â

AZT raises T-Cells why don't you get on that?Â T-Cells on the blood don't

matter the only way you're going to get them raised is through chemo therapy

like AZT or poisons that deplete the bone marrow.Â The more you damage your

body the more T-Cells are going to be produced in the blood to make their way to

the bone marrow (which is the source of the T-cells) to fix the damage done by

the ARV's

________________________________

From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...>

cures for AIDS

Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 11:54 AM

Subject: Re: Re: not new hiv propaganda

Â

low T cells are good for you and Willmer. They are not good for me. I

want them as high as I can get them.

Re: not new hiv propaganda

,

I do continue to get monitored, not because I believe in all this nonsense, but

to show my doctors and others that their theories are wrong. My last t-cells

were 45 and my viral load was over 7million. Don't you think that if I had 7

million of an actual virus that I would be extremely sick? You are right they

use these useless tests to scare people into taking the meds.

Go to YouTube and watch " deadly deception " by willner and learn how low

cd4's are a good thing. Watch dr. Willner inject himself with HIV positive

blood.

I hope that you will check out my new book which is currently at the publisher

entitled, AIDS THEY SUCKERED US. (AIDS Biggest Medical Blunder In History).

> >

> > > " My doctor told me he has seen the hiv virus under a microscope and has

> > > pictures "

> > >

> > > Oh, just the same old electron microscope stuff which is not how the

> > > existence or presence of a virus is proven. There still has not been any

> > > isolation of HIV virus. You can google those electron microscope

> > pictures.

> > >

> > > Nothing new said in these HIV drug advertising posts coming in together.

> > > We heard the same supposed replication and attack modus twenty years

> > ago.

> > > That unproven theory was always part of the scare tactic.

> > >

> > > What the PCR test inventor says about HIV PCR testing is that the sample

> > > is too watered down and no reason is given for conspicuously and

> > > unscientifically and suspiciously unscientifically, with vested

> > interest,

> > > diluting the sample so that the test becomes invalid as far as proving

> > HIV

> > > is present or that HIV exists. Then when real tests are given they prove

> > > that the dna fragments belong to fifty pathogens and/or recent

> > pregnancy.

> > > Needless to say, HIV PCR testing does not exclude dozens of more likely

> > > causes of a positive result, much less prove HIV exists.

> > >

> > > We have been over this ground many times, and to do so again and again

> > is

> > > not the purpose of this group. We are hear to begin with agreement that

> > HIV

> > > does not exist or if there is a retrovirus it does no harm, and then to

> > > discuss the real problems, including healing damage from HIV drugs, and

> > how

> > > people are addressing the lifestyle illnesses and opportunistic

> > infections,

> > > whether those are lifestyle or HIV drug caused infections.

> > >

January 2, 2012

Ok thanks Don. Â I haven't joined yet but I've read alot of posts so far. Â Also

I think I've found the cause of my chronic sinus and ear infections along with

recurrent toe fungus problems within the last year. Â I learned of the cause

through the poz health group. Â The cause: Â Candidiasis. Â

The most common symptoms ofÂ CandidiasisÂ are:

* an incapacitating fatigue

* problems with concentration and short-term memory

* flu-like symptoms such as pain in the joints and muscle

* extreme tightness in the shoulders and neck

* hyper-acidity/acid reflux

* brown colored mucus in the back of the throat

* blisters in the mouth/tongue/throat

* either white or " blood blisters "

* un-refreshing sleep

* sore throat

* white coated tongue

* dark circles under the eyes

* an aversion to being touched or jumping

* chronic sinus problems and headaches including migraines

* chronic dental problems

* Visual disturbances including blurring, sensitivity to light and eye pain.

* recurrent yeast infections

* recurrent ear infections

* rashes and dry, flaking skin

* eczema

* dermatitis

* acne

* skin discoloration and/or blotchiness

* dandruff

* jock and rectal itching

* chronic athlete's foot

* chronic toenail and fingernail fungus

* ringing in the ears (tinnitus)

* allergies and sensitivities to noise/sound, foods, odors, chemicals

* anemia

* weight changes without changes in diet

* light-headedness

* feeling in a fog

* fainting

* muscle twitching and muscle weakness

* restless leg syndrome

* low sex drive and/or numbness in the genital area

* chills and night sweats

* shortness of breath

* dizziness and balance problems

* sensitivity to heat and/or cold

* alcohol intolerance

* gluten and/or casein intolerance

* irregular heartbeat

* irritable bowel

* constipation and/or diarrhea

* painful gas and abdominal bloating

* low-grade fever or low body temperature

* numbness, tingling and/or burning sensations in the face or extremities

* dryness of the mouth and eyes

* difficulty swallowing

Psychological problems may include:

* depression

* irritability

* anxiety

* panic attacks

* recurring obsessive thoughts

* personality changes and mood swings (irrational rage or crying for no reason

- fear of talking to people, any kind of confrontation, isolation)

* paranoia

I have a few of the above symptoms and I feel I definitely suffer from this

condition.

Randall

________________________________

From: Don <donjuan69uni@...>

" cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS >

Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2012 1:14 PM

Subject: Re: Re: not new hiv propaganda

Â

here is the linkhttp://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/RethinkingAIDS/

hope the link works

________________________________

From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...>

" cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS >

Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 7:00 PM

Subject: Re: Re: not new hiv propaganda

Â

Ok Don, I just joined facebook.Â I typed in " Rethinking Aids " and saw more than

one group.Â Which one of these groups are you apart of?Â I need to start

talking to these people ASAP!

Randall

________________________________

From: Don <donjuan69uni@...>

" cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS >

Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:28 PM

Subject: Re: Re: not new hiv propaganda

Â

AZT raises T-Cells why don't you get on that?Â T-Cells on the blood don't

matter the only way you're going to get them raised is through chemo therapy

like AZT or poisons that deplete the bone marrow.Â The more you damage your

body the more T-Cells are going to be produced in the blood to make their way to

the bone marrow (which is the source of the T-cells) to fix the damage done by

the ARV's

________________________________

From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...>

cures for AIDS

Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 11:54 AM

Subject: Re: Re: not new hiv propaganda

Â

low T cells are good for you and Willmer. They are not good for me. I

want them as high as I can get them.

Re: not new hiv propaganda

,

I do continue to get monitored, not because I believe in all this nonsense, but

to show my doctors and others that their theories are wrong. My last t-cells

were 45 and my viral load was over 7million. Don't you think that if I had 7

million of an actual virus that I would be extremely sick? You are right they

use these useless tests to scare people into taking the meds.

Go to YouTube and watch " deadly deception " by willner and learn how low

cd4's are a good thing. Watch dr. Willner inject himself with HIV positive

blood.

I hope that you will check out my new book which is currently at the publisher

entitled, AIDS THEY SUCKERED US. (AIDS Biggest Medical Blunder In History).

> >

> > > " My doctor told me he has seen the hiv virus under a microscope and has

> > > pictures "

> > >

> > > Oh, just the same old electron microscope stuff which is not how the

> > > existence or presence of a virus is proven. There still has not been any

> > > isolation of HIV virus. You can google those electron microscope

> > pictures.

> > >

> > > Nothing new said in these HIV drug advertising posts coming in together.

> > > We heard the same supposed replication and attack modus twenty years

> > ago.

> > > That unproven theory was always part of the scare tactic.

> > >

> > > What the PCR test inventor says about HIV PCR testing is that the sample

> > > is too watered down and no reason is given for conspicuously and

> > > unscientifically and suspiciously unscientifically, with vested

> > interest,

> > > diluting the sample so that the test becomes invalid as far as proving

> > HIV

> > > is present or that HIV exists. Then when real tests are given they prove

> > > that the dna fragments belong to fifty pathogens and/or recent

> > pregnancy.

> > > Needless to say, HIV PCR testing does not exclude dozens of more likely

> > > causes of a positive result, much less prove HIV exists.

> > >

> > > We have been over this ground many times, and to do so again and again

> > is

> > > not the purpose of this group. We are hear to begin with agreement that

> > HIV

> > > does not exist or if there is a retrovirus it does no harm, and then to

> > > discuss the real problems, including healing damage from HIV drugs, and

> > how

> > > people are addressing the lifestyle illnesses and opportunistic

> > infections,

> > > whether those are lifestyle or HIV drug caused infections.

> > >

January 2, 2012

WOW Randall, What a list of symptoms associated with that one condition. It

sounds like if you get that one thing cleared up all your troubles will go away.

What does Candidacies have to do with HIV? I always thought Candidacies was

basically a yeast infection. Does it cause so many problems because your immune

system is weak? Any way I'm glad you narrowed it down. Now you know what you are

dealing with. Please keep us posted on your progress.

Re: not new hiv propaganda

,

I do continue to get monitored, not because I believe in all this nonsense,

but to show my doctors and others that their theories are wrong. My last t-cells

were 45 and my viral load was over 7million. Don't you think that if I had 7

million of an actual virus that I would be extremely sick? You are right they

use these useless tests to scare people into taking the meds.

Go to YouTube and watch " deadly deception " by willner and learn how low

cd4's are a good thing. Watch dr. Willner inject himself with HIV positive

blood.

I hope that you will check out my new book which is currently at the publisher

entitled, AIDS THEY SUCKERED US. (AIDS Biggest Medical Blunder In History).

> >

> > > " My doctor told me he has seen the hiv virus under a microscope and has

> > > pictures "

> > >

> > > Oh, just the same old electron microscope stuff which is not how the

> > > existence or presence of a virus is proven. There still has not been any

> > > isolation of HIV virus. You can google those electron microscope

> > pictures.

> > >

> > > Nothing new said in these HIV drug advertising posts coming in together.

> > > We heard the same supposed replication and attack modus twenty years

> > ago.

> > > That unproven theory was always part of the scare tactic.

> > >

> > > What the PCR test inventor says about HIV PCR testing is that the sample

> > > is too watered down and no reason is given for conspicuously and

> > > unscientifically and suspiciously unscientifically, with vested

> > interest,

> > > diluting the sample so that the test becomes invalid as far as proving

> > HIV

> > > is present or that HIV exists. Then when real tests are given they prove

> > > that the dna fragments belong to fifty pathogens and/or recent

> > pregnancy.

> > > Needless to say, HIV PCR testing does not exclude dozens of more likely

> > > causes of a positive result, much less prove HIV exists.

> > >

> > > We have been over this ground many times, and to do so again and again

> > is

> > > not the purpose of this group. We are hear to begin with agreement that

> > HIV

> > > does not exist or if there is a retrovirus it does no harm, and then to

> > > discuss the real problems, including healing damage from HIV drugs, and

> > how

> > > people are addressing the lifestyle illnesses and opportunistic

> > infections,

> > > whether those are lifestyle or HIV drug caused infections.

> > >

January 2, 2012

I control candida with a product called Candida Clear from Znow and it worked

within a couple of days only. I will run out soon, will know if I am totally

clear after that. You also need to take probiotics always to replenish the good

bacterias.

Sent from my iPhone

On 3 Jan, 2012, at 7:47 AM, Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...> wrote:

> Ok thanks Don. I haven't joined yet but I've read alot of posts so far. Also

I think I've found the cause of my chronic sinus and ear infections along with

recurrent toe fungus problems within the last year. I learned of the cause

through the poz health group. The cause: Candidiasis.

>

> The most common symptoms of Candidiasis are:

> * an incapacitating fatigue

> * problems with concentration and short-term memory

> * flu-like symptoms such as pain in the joints and muscle

> * extreme tightness in the shoulders and neck

> * hyper-acidity/acid reflux

> * brown colored mucus in the back of the throat

> * blisters in the mouth/tongue/throat

> * either white or " blood blisters "

> * un-refreshing sleep

> * sore throat

> * white coated tongue

> * dark circles under the eyes

> * an aversion to being touched or jumping

> * chronic sinus problems and headaches including migraines

> * chronic dental problems

> * Visual disturbances including blurring, sensitivity to light and eye pain.

> * recurrent yeast infections

> * recurrent ear infections

> * rashes and dry, flaking skin

> * eczema

> * dermatitis

> * acne

> * skin discoloration and/or blotchiness

> * dandruff

> * jock and rectal itching

> * chronic athlete's foot

> * chronic toenail and fingernail fungus

> * ringing in the ears (tinnitus)

> * allergies and sensitivities to noise/sound, foods, odors, chemicals

> * anemia

> * weight changes without changes in diet

> * light-headedness

> * feeling in a fog

> * fainting

> * muscle twitching and muscle weakness

> * restless leg syndrome

> * low sex drive and/or numbness in the genital area

> * chills and night sweats

> * shortness of breath

> * dizziness and balance problems

> * sensitivity to heat and/or cold

> * alcohol intolerance

> * gluten and/or casein intolerance

> * irregular heartbeat

> * irritable bowel

> * constipation and/or diarrhea

> * painful gas and abdominal bloating

> * low-grade fever or low body temperature

> * numbness, tingling and/or burning sensations in the face or extremities

> * dryness of the mouth and eyes

> * difficulty swallowing

> Psychological problems may include:

> * depression

> * irritability

> * anxiety

> * panic attacks

> * recurring obsessive thoughts

> * personality changes and mood swings (irrational rage or crying for no reason

- fear of talking to people, any kind of confrontation, isolation)

> * paranoia

>

> I have a few of the above symptoms and I feel I definitely suffer from this

condition.

>

> Randall

>

> ________________________________

> From: Don <donjuan69uni@...>

> " cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS >

> Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2012 1:14 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: not new hiv propaganda

>

> here is the linkhttp://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/RethinkingAIDS/

> hope the link works

>

> ________________________________

> From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...>

> " cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS >

> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 7:00 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: not new hiv propaganda

>

> Ok Don, I just joined facebook. I typed in " Rethinking Aids " and saw more

than one group. Which one of these groups are you apart of? I need to start

talking to these people ASAP!

>

> Randall

>

> ________________________________

> From: Don <donjuan69uni@...>

> " cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS >

> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:28 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: not new hiv propaganda

>

> AZT raises T-Cells why don't you get on that? T-Cells on the blood don't

matter the only way you're going to get them raised is through chemo therapy

like AZT or poisons that deplete the bone marrow. The more you damage your body

the more T-Cells are going to be produced in the blood to make their way to the

bone marrow (which is the source of the T-cells) to fix the damage done by the

ARV's

>

> ________________________________

> From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...>

> cures for AIDS

> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 11:54 AM

> Subject: Re: Re: not new hiv propaganda

>

> low T cells are good for you and Willmer. They are not good for me. I

want them as high as I can get them.

>

> Re: not new hiv propaganda

>

> ,

>

> I do continue to get monitored, not because I believe in all this nonsense,

but to show my doctors and others that their theories are wrong. My last t-cells

were 45 and my viral load was over 7million. Don't you think that if I had 7

million of an actual virus that I would be extremely sick? You are right they

use these useless tests to scare people into taking the meds.

>

> Go to YouTube and watch " deadly deception " by willner and learn how low

cd4's are a good thing. Watch dr. Willner inject himself with HIV positive

blood.

>

> I hope that you will check out my new book which is currently at the publisher

entitled, AIDS THEY SUCKERED US. (AIDS Biggest Medical Blunder In History).

>

> > >

> > > > " My doctor told me he has seen the hiv virus under a microscope and has

> > > > pictures "

> > > >

> > > > Oh, just the same old electron microscope stuff which is not how the

> > > > existence or presence of a virus is proven. There still has not been any

> > > > isolation of HIV virus. You can google those electron microscope

> > > pictures.

> > > >

> > > > Nothing new said in these HIV drug advertising posts coming in together.

> > > > We heard the same supposed replication and attack modus twenty years

> > > ago.

> > > > That unproven theory was always part of the scare tactic.

> > > >

> > > > What the PCR test inventor says about HIV PCR testing is that the sample

> > > > is too watered down and no reason is given for conspicuously and

> > > > unscientifically and suspiciously unscientifically, with vested

> > > interest,

> > > > diluting the sample so that the test becomes invalid as far as proving

> > > HIV

> > > > is present or that HIV exists. Then when real tests are given they prove

> > > > that the dna fragments belong to fifty pathogens and/or recent

> > > pregnancy.

> > > > Needless to say, HIV PCR testing does not exclude dozens of more likely

> > > > causes of a positive result, much less prove HIV exists.

> > > >

> > > > We have been over this ground many times, and to do so again and again

> > > is

> > > > not the purpose of this group. We are hear to begin with agreement that

> > > HIV

> > > > does not exist or if there is a retrovirus it does no harm, and then to

> > > > discuss the real problems, including healing damage from HIV drugs, and

> > > how

> > > > people are addressing the lifestyle illnesses and opportunistic

> > > infections,

> > > > whether those are lifestyle or HIV drug caused infections.

> > > >

January 2, 2012

Candida is a very common problem, especially with the unhealthy eating

habits most people have, including sodas, white breasts, white rice, sugar,

etc. All these things feed the Candida and are void of nutrients that

support human life. For a proper yeast cleanse, you would avoid all

grains, but switching to whole grains is an easier compromise to improve

the situation. Probiotics are very important, as has been mentioned,

preferably at nighttime, when you use antifungals in the mornings. I have

been told once Candida becomes an issuer a person, it is something you will

fight the rest of your life. So far that appears to be true, although I am

doing much better with the use of medical grade essential oils from Young

Living.

Also, digestive enzymes are important to take with meals, to help you

metabolize meals properly and keep waste from building up for the Candida

to feast on. Colon cleansing will do wonders.

On Jan 2, 2012 6:47 PM, " Nonyo Biznazz " <nonyobiznazz@...> wrote:

> Ok thanks Don. I haven't joined yet but I've read alot of posts so far.

> Also I think I've found the cause of my chronic sinus and ear infections

> along with recurrent toe fungus problems within the last year. I learned

> of the cause through the poz health group. The cause: Candidiasis.

>

> The most common symptoms of Candidiasis are:

> * an incapacitating fatigue

> * problems with concentration and short-term memory

> * flu-like symptoms such as pain in the joints and muscle

> * extreme tightness in the shoulders and neck

> * hyper-acidity/acid reflux

> * brown colored mucus in the back of the throat

> * blisters in the mouth/tongue/throat

> * either white or " blood blisters "

> * un-refreshing sleep

> * sore throat

> * white coated tongue

> * dark circles under the eyes

> * an aversion to being touched or jumping

> * chronic sinus problems and headaches including migraines

> * chronic dental problems

> * Visual disturbances including blurring, sensitivity to light and

> eye pain.

> * recurrent yeast infections

> * recurrent ear infections

> * rashes and dry, flaking skin

> * eczema

> * dermatitis

> * acne

> * skin discoloration and/or blotchiness

> * dandruff

> * jock and rectal itching

> * chronic athlete's foot

> * chronic toenail and fingernail fungus

> * ringing in the ears (tinnitus)

> * allergies and sensitivities to noise/sound, foods, odors,

> chemicals

> * anemia

> * weight changes without changes in diet

> * light-headedness

> * feeling in a fog

> * fainting

> * muscle twitching and muscle weakness

> * restless leg syndrome

> * low sex drive and/or numbness in the genital area

> * chills and night sweats

> * shortness of breath

> * dizziness and balance problems

> * sensitivity to heat and/or cold

> * alcohol intolerance

> * gluten and/or casein intolerance

> * irregular heartbeat

> * irritable bowel

> * constipation and/or diarrhea

> * painful gas and abdominal bloating

> * low-grade fever or low body temperature

> * numbness, tingling and/or burning sensations in the face or

> extremities

> * dryness of the mouth and eyes

> * difficulty swallowing

> Psychological problems may include:

> * depression

> * irritability

> * anxiety

> * panic attacks

> * recurring obsessive thoughts

> * personality changes and mood swings (irrational rage or crying

> for no reason - fear of talking to people, any kind of confrontation,

> isolation)

> * paranoia

>

> I have a few of the above symptoms and I feel I definitely suffer from

> this condition.

>

> Randall

>

> ________________________________

> From: Don <donjuan69uni@...>

> " cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS >

> Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2012 1:14 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: not new hiv propaganda

>

> here is the linkhttp://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/RethinkingAIDS/

> hope the link works

>

> ________________________________

> From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...>

> " cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS >

> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 7:00 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: not new hiv propaganda

>

> Ok Don, I just joined facebook. I typed in " Rethinking Aids " and saw more

> than one group. Which one of these groups are you apart of? I need to

> start talking to these people ASAP!

>

> Randall

>

> ________________________________

> From: Don <donjuan69uni@...>

> " cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS >

> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:28 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: not new hiv propaganda

>

> AZT raises T-Cells why don't you get on that? T-Cells on the blood don't

> matter the only way you're going to get them raised is through chemo

> therapy like AZT or poisons that deplete the bone marrow. The more you

> damage your body the more T-Cells are going to be produced in the blood to

> make their way to the bone marrow (which is the source of the T-cells) to

> fix the damage done by the ARV's

>

> ________________________________

> From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...>

> cures for AIDS

> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 11:54 AM

> Subject: Re: Re: not new hiv propaganda

>

> low T cells are good for you and Willmer. They are not good for me.

> I want them as high as I can get them.

>

> Re: not new hiv propaganda

>

> ,

>

> I do continue to get monitored, not because I believe in all this

> nonsense, but to show my doctors and others that their theories are wrong.

> My last t-cells were 45 and my viral load was over 7million. Don't you

> think that if I had 7 million of an actual virus that I would be extremely

> sick? You are right they use these useless tests to scare people into

> taking the meds.

>

> Go to YouTube and watch " deadly deception " by willner and learn how

> low cd4's are a good thing. Watch dr. Willner inject himself with HIV

> positive blood.

>

> I hope that you will check out my new book which is currently at the

> publisher entitled, AIDS THEY SUCKERED US. (AIDS Biggest Medical Blunder In

> History).

>

> > >

> > > > " My doctor told me he has seen the hiv virus under a microscope and

> has

> > > > pictures "

> > > >

> > > > Oh, just the same old electron microscope stuff which is not how the

> > > > existence or presence of a virus is proven. There still has not been

> any

> > > > isolation of HIV virus. You can google those electron microscope

> > > pictures.

> > > >

> > > > Nothing new said in these HIV drug advertising posts coming in

> together.

> > > > We heard the same supposed replication and attack modus twenty years

> > > ago.

> > > > That unproven theory was always part of the scare tactic.

> > > >

> > > > What the PCR test inventor says about HIV PCR testing is that the

> sample

> > > > is too watered down and no reason is given for conspicuously and

> > > > unscientifically and suspiciously unscientifically, with vested

> > > interest,

> > > > diluting the sample so that the test becomes invalid as far as

> proving

> > > HIV

> > > > is present or that HIV exists. Then when real tests are given they

> prove

> > > > that the dna fragments belong to fifty pathogens and/or recent

> > > pregnancy.

> > > > Needless to say, HIV PCR testing does not exclude dozens of more

> likely

> > > > causes of a positive result, much less prove HIV exists.

> > > >

> > > > We have been over this ground many times, and to do so again and

> again

> > > is

> > > > not the purpose of this group. We are hear to begin with agreement

> that

> > > HIV

> > > > does not exist or if there is a retrovirus it does no harm, and then

> to

> > > > discuss the real problems, including healing damage from HIV drugs,

> and

> > > how

> > > > people are addressing the lifestyle illnesses and opportunistic

> > > infections,

> > > > whether those are lifestyle or HIV drug caused infections.

> > > >

January 2, 2012

wow that is one long list anything else they forgot to add?Â why don't you join

the group, cadidiasis can be a cause of imbalance of good bacteria, you might

have more bad bacteria that than good in your system.Â Aloe vera juice and a

prebiotic with good probiotics can help.

________________________________

From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...>

" cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS >

Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 5:47 PM

Subject: Re: Re: not new hiv propaganda

Â

Ok thanks Don. Â I haven't joined yet but I've read alot of posts so far. Â Also

I think I've found the cause of my chronic sinus and ear infections along with

recurrent toe fungus problems within the last year. Â I learned of the cause

through the poz health group. Â The cause: Â Candidiasis. Â

The most common symptoms ofÂ CandidiasisÂ are:

* an incapacitating fatigue

* problems with concentration and short-term memory

* flu-like symptoms such as pain in the joints and muscle

* extreme tightness in the shoulders and neck

* hyper-acidity/acid reflux

* brown colored mucus in the back of the throat

* blisters in the mouth/tongue/throat

* either white or " blood blisters "

* un-refreshing sleep

* sore throat

* white coated tongue

* dark circles under the eyes

* an aversion to being touched or jumping

* chronic sinus problems and headaches including migraines

* chronic dental problems

* Visual disturbances including blurring, sensitivity to light and eye pain.

* recurrent yeast infections

* recurrent ear infections

* rashes and dry, flaking skin

* eczema

* dermatitis

* acne

* skin discoloration and/or blotchiness

* dandruff

* jock and rectal itching

* chronic athlete's foot

* chronic toenail and fingernail fungus

* ringing in the ears (tinnitus)

* allergies and sensitivities to noise/sound, foods, odors, chemicals

* anemia

* weight changes without changes in diet

* light-headedness

* feeling in a fog

* fainting

* muscle twitching and muscle weakness

* restless leg syndrome

* low sex drive and/or numbness in the genital area

* chills and night sweats

* shortness of breath

* dizziness and balance problems

* sensitivity to heat and/or cold

* alcohol intolerance

* gluten and/or casein intolerance

* irregular heartbeat

* irritable bowel

* constipation and/or diarrhea

* painful gas and abdominal bloating

* low-grade fever or low body temperature

* numbness, tingling and/or burning sensations in the face or extremities

* dryness of the mouth and eyes

* difficulty swallowing

Psychological problems may include:

* depression

* irritability

* anxiety

* panic attacks

* recurring obsessive thoughts

* personality changes and mood swings (irrational rage or crying for no reason -

fear of talking to people, any kind of confrontation, isolation)

* paranoia

I have a few of the above symptoms and I feel I definitely suffer from this

condition.

Randall

________________________________

From: Don <donjuan69uni@...>

" cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS >

Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2012 1:14 PM

Subject: Re: Re: not new hiv propaganda

Â

here is the linkhttp://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/RethinkingAIDS/

hope the link works

________________________________

From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...>

" cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS >

Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 7:00 PM

Subject: Re: Re: not new hiv propaganda

Â

Ok Don, I just joined facebook.Â I typed in " Rethinking Aids " and saw more than

one group.Â Which one of these groups are you apart of?Â I need to start

talking to these people ASAP!

Randall

________________________________

From: Don <donjuan69uni@...>

" cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS >

Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:28 PM

Subject: Re: Re: not new hiv propaganda

Â

AZT raises T-Cells why don't you get on that?Â T-Cells on the blood don't

matter the only way you're going to get them raised is through chemo therapy

like AZT or poisons that deplete the bone marrow.Â The more you damage your

body the more T-Cells are going to be produced in the blood to make their way to

the bone marrow (which is the source of the T-cells) to fix the damage done by

the ARV's

________________________________

From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...>

cures for AIDS

Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 11:54 AM

Subject: Re: Re: not new hiv propaganda

Â

low T cells are good for you and Willmer. They are not good for me. I

want them as high as I can get them.

Re: not new hiv propaganda

,

I do continue to get monitored, not because I believe in all this nonsense, but

to show my doctors and others that their theories are wrong. My last t-cells

were 45 and my viral load was over 7million. Don't you think that if I had 7

million of an actual virus that I would be extremely sick? You are right they

use these useless tests to scare people into taking the meds.

Go to YouTube and watch " deadly deception " by willner and learn how low

cd4's are a good thing. Watch dr. Willner inject himself with HIV positive

blood.

I hope that you will check out my new book which is currently at the publisher

entitled, AIDS THEY SUCKERED US. (AIDS Biggest Medical Blunder In History).

> >

> > > " My doctor told me he has seen the hiv virus under a microscope and has

> > > pictures "

> > >

> > > Oh, just the same old electron microscope stuff which is not how the

> > > existence or presence of a virus is proven. There still has not been any

> > > isolation of HIV virus. You can google those electron microscope

> > pictures.

> > >

> > > Nothing new said in these HIV drug advertising posts coming in together.

> > > We heard the same supposed replication and attack modus twenty years

> > ago.

> > > That unproven theory was always part of the scare tactic.

> > >

> > > What the PCR test inventor says about HIV PCR testing is that the sample

> > > is too watered down and no reason is given for conspicuously and

> > > unscientifically and suspiciously unscientifically, with vested

> > interest,

> > > diluting the sample so that the test becomes invalid as far as proving

> > HIV

> > > is present or that HIV exists. Then when real tests are given they prove

> > > that the dna fragments belong to fifty pathogens and/or recent

> > pregnancy.

> > > Needless to say, HIV PCR testing does not exclude dozens of more likely

> > > causes of a positive result, much less prove HIV exists.

> > >

> > > We have been over this ground many times, and to do so again and again

> > is

> > > not the purpose of this group. We are hear to begin with agreement that

> > HIV

> > > does not exist or if there is a retrovirus it does no harm, and then to

> > > discuss the real problems, including healing damage from HIV drugs, and

> > how

> > > people are addressing the lifestyle illnesses and opportunistic

> > infections,

> > > whether those are lifestyle or HIV drug caused infections.

> > >

January 2, 2012

your problem doug moron is that you just don't learn and don't grow, you're just

basically sitting around waiting for a " cure " or some medical miracle.Â I came

here lost and my thoughts on this issue are not the same as when I first joined.

Ed and used to get in heated arguments but this whole time, he was right.Â You

on the other hand don't learn anything new, you ignore everything we have told,

I haven't been the only mentioning about the HIV virus not being isolated and

the tests being flawed.Â you're the one misguided and if you don't.Â This

group consists of maybe 4 active users and for the facebook group there are

close to 1300 members and growing, if you chose be here hiding your face from

view and making up 20% of the active users in this group be my guest LMAO! do me

a favor first, watch this video from the man WHO DISCOVERED HIVÂ and tell me

what you don't understand from him, not from me but from him.

waiting for your response.

________________________________

From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...>

cures for AIDS

Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 11:36 PM

Subject: Re: Re: not new hiv propaganda

Â

Randall,

This is the typical crap that Don spews out. One would think he knows there is

more than one group by that name on facebook. All he does is screws up people in

this group who are really looking for truth and answers. What he tells you to do

go the other way and you'll be alright. Facebook is a good place for Don. The

more he is there the less he is here.

Re: not new hiv propaganda

,

I do continue to get monitored, not because I believe in all this nonsense, but

to show my doctors and others that their theories are wrong. My last t-cells

were 45 and my viral load was over 7million. Don't you think that if I had 7

million of an actual virus that I would be extremely sick? You are right they

use these useless tests to scare people into taking the meds.

Go to YouTube and watch " deadly deception " by willner and learn how low

cd4's are a good thing. Watch dr. Willner inject himself with HIV positive

blood.

I hope that you will check out my new book which is currently at the publisher

entitled, AIDS THEY SUCKERED US. (AIDS Biggest Medical Blunder In History).

> >

> > > " My doctor told me he has seen the hiv virus under a microscope and has

> > > pictures "

> > >

> > > Oh, just the same old electron microscope stuff which is not how the

> > > existence or presence of a virus is proven. There still has not been any

> > > isolation of HIV virus. You can google those electron microscope

> > pictures.

> > >

> > > Nothing new said in these HIV drug advertising posts coming in together.

> > > We heard the same supposed replication and attack modus twenty years

> > ago.

> > > That unproven theory was always part of the scare tactic.

> > >

> > > What the PCR test inventor says about HIV PCR testing is that the sample

> > > is too watered down and no reason is given for conspicuously and

> > > unscientifically and suspiciously unscientifically, with vested

> > interest,

> > > diluting the sample so that the test becomes invalid as far as proving

> > HIV

> > > is present or that HIV exists. Then when real tests are given they prove

> > > that the dna fragments belong to fifty pathogens and/or recent

> > pregnancy.

> > > Needless to say, HIV PCR testing does not exclude dozens of more likely

> > > causes of a positive result, much less prove HIV exists.

> > >

> > > We have been over this ground many times, and to do so again and again

> > is

> > > not the purpose of this group. We are hear to begin with agreement that

> > HIV

> > > does not exist or if there is a retrovirus it does no harm, and then to

> > > discuss the real problems, including healing damage from HIV drugs, and

> > how

> > > people are addressing the lifestyle illnesses and opportunistic

> > infections,

> > > whether those are lifestyle or HIV drug caused infections.

> > >

January 3, 2012

Lol@ Don.Â It is a long list.Â I have been taking daily probiotics for the

past 2 years.Â I was told that colloidal silver destroys the good and bad

bacteria and since I take silver daily, I definitely keep probiotics in stock.Â

I will look into the aloe vera juice, thanks.

As far as the rethinking aids group, I have been reading several posts and I

have alot more to read but so far I have not seen anyone who has lived 20+ years

without taking meds.Â I did see one post where a woman said her husband died of

Aids after 16 years.Â It was unclear to me whether or not he was on meds.Â I'm

getting ready to join and boy oh boy am I going to be asking questions because

it's 2012 and I'm going to be drawing a conclusion this year.Â On the flip

side, I have spoken with many who have been on meds 20+ years and seem to be

doing just fine.Â I spoke with a black guy the other day online who had been

positive for 25 years and on meds.Â He looked great and said he had no side

effects.Â So everyone has a different story and it's an individual decision

that has to be made.Â I have an open heart and an open mind to both sides.

Randall

________________________________

From: Don <donjuan69uni@...>

" cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS >

Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 12:15 AM

Subject: Re: Re: not new hiv propaganda

Â

wow that is one long list anything else they forgot to add?Â why don't you join

the group, cadidiasis can be a cause of imbalance of good bacteria, you might

have more bad bacteria that than good in your system.Â Aloe vera juice and a

prebiotic with good probiotics can help.

________________________________

From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...>

" cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS >

Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 5:47 PM

Subject: Re: Re: not new hiv propaganda

Â

Ok thanks Don. Â I haven't joined yet but I've read alot of posts so far. Â Also

I think I've found the cause of my chronic sinus and ear infections along with

recurrent toe fungus problems within the last year. Â I learned of the cause

through the poz health group. Â The cause: Â Candidiasis. Â

The most common symptoms ofÂ CandidiasisÂ are:

* an incapacitating fatigue

* problems with concentration and short-term memory

* flu-like symptoms such as pain in the joints and muscle

* extreme tightness in the shoulders and neck

* hyper-acidity/acid reflux

* brown colored mucus in the back of the throat

* blisters in the mouth/tongue/throat

* either white or " blood blisters "

* un-refreshing sleep

* sore throat

* white coated tongue

* dark circles under the eyes

* an aversion to being touched or jumping

* chronic sinus problems and headaches including migraines

* chronic dental problems

* Visual disturbances including blurring, sensitivity to light and eye pain.

* recurrent yeast infections

* recurrent ear infections

* rashes and dry, flaking skin

* eczema

* dermatitis

* acne

* skin discoloration and/or blotchiness

* dandruff

* jock and rectal itching

* chronic athlete's foot

* chronic toenail and fingernail fungus

* ringing in the ears (tinnitus)

* allergies and sensitivities to noise/sound, foods, odors, chemicals

* anemia

* weight changes without changes in diet

* light-headedness

* feeling in a fog

* fainting

* muscle twitching and muscle weakness

* restless leg syndrome

* low sex drive and/or numbness in the genital area

* chills and night sweats

* shortness of breath

* dizziness and balance problems

* sensitivity to heat and/or cold

* alcohol intolerance

* gluten and/or casein intolerance

* irregular heartbeat

* irritable bowel

* constipation and/or diarrhea

* painful gas and abdominal bloating

* low-grade fever or low body temperature

* numbness, tingling and/or burning sensations in the face or extremities

* dryness of the mouth and eyes

* difficulty swallowing

Psychological problems may include:

* depression

* irritability

* anxiety

* panic attacks

* recurring obsessive thoughts

* personality changes and mood swings (irrational rage or crying for no reason -

fear of talking to people, any kind of confrontation, isolation)

* paranoia

I have a few of the above symptoms and I feel I definitely suffer from this

condition.

Randall

________________________________

From: Don <donjuan69uni@...>

" cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS >

Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2012 1:14 PM

Subject: Re: Re: not new hiv propaganda

Â

here is the linkhttp://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/RethinkingAIDS/

hope the link works

________________________________

From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...>

" cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS >

Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 7:00 PM

Subject: Re: Re: not new hiv propaganda

Â

Ok Don, I just joined facebook.Â I typed in " Rethinking Aids " and saw more than

one group.Â Which one of these groups are you apart of?Â I need to start

talking to these people ASAP!

Randall

________________________________

From: Don <donjuan69uni@...>

" cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS >

Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:28 PM

Subject: Re: Re: not new hiv propaganda

Â

AZT raises T-Cells why don't you get on that?Â T-Cells on the blood don't

matter the only way you're going to get them raised is through chemo therapy

like AZT or poisons that deplete the bone marrow.Â The more you damage your

body the more T-Cells are going to be produced in the blood to make their way to

the bone marrow (which is the source of the T-cells) to fix the damage done by

the ARV's

________________________________

From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...>

cures for AIDS

Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 11:54 AM

Subject: Re: Re: not new hiv propaganda

Â

low T cells are good for you and Willmer. They are not good for me. I

want them as high as I can get them.

Re: not new hiv propaganda

,

I do continue to get monitored, not because I believe in all this nonsense, but

to show my doctors and others that their theories are wrong. My last t-cells

were 45 and my viral load was over 7million. Don't you think that if I had 7

million of an actual virus that I would be extremely sick? You are right they

use these useless tests to scare people into taking the meds.

Go to YouTube and watch " deadly deception " by willner and learn how low

cd4's are a good thing. Watch dr. Willner inject himself with HIV positive

blood.

I hope that you will check out my new book which is currently at the publisher

entitled, AIDS THEY SUCKERED US. (AIDS Biggest Medical Blunder In History).

> >

> > > " My doctor told me he has seen the hiv virus under a microscope and has

> > > pictures "

> > >

> > > Oh, just the same old electron microscope stuff which is not how the

> > > existence or presence of a virus is proven. There still has not been any

> > > isolation of HIV virus. You can google those electron microscope

> > pictures.

> > >

> > > Nothing new said in these HIV drug advertising posts coming in together.

> > > We heard the same supposed replication and attack modus twenty years

> > ago.

> > > That unproven theory was always part of the scare tactic.

> > >

> > > What the PCR test inventor says about HIV PCR testing is that the sample

> > > is too watered down and no reason is given for conspicuously and

> > > unscientifically and suspiciously unscientifically, with vested

> > interest,

> > > diluting the sample so that the test becomes invalid as far as proving

> > HIV

> > > is present or that HIV exists. Then when real tests are given they prove

> > > that the dna fragments belong to fifty pathogens and/or recent

> > pregnancy.

> > > Needless to say, HIV PCR testing does not exclude dozens of more likely

> > > causes of a positive result, much less prove HIV exists.

> > >

> > > We have been over this ground many times, and to do so again and again

> > is

> > > not the purpose of this group. We are hear to begin with agreement that

> > HIV

> > > does not exist or if there is a retrovirus it does no harm, and then to

> > > discuss the real problems, including healing damage from HIV drugs, and

> > how

> > > people are addressing the lifestyle illnesses and opportunistic

> > infections,

> > > whether those are lifestyle or HIV drug caused infections.

> > >

January 3, 2012

trust me there are plenty of HIV positive people on there 20 years or more, one

of them our former member on here Ed.Â There's people who were born HIV+ and it

saved their lives not getting on the meds, feel free to join and ask away

because here you're not getting much, you just getting rambling from two

opposing sides, there you can meet people face to face and you'll always get

answers and testimonies.Â As for the silver you might be over doing it, silver

can also kill the good bacteria and it is very strong, you shouldn't have to be

taking daily.Â That's probably why you have that problem, despite all the

probiotics you might be taking.Â That's what I would advise.

________________________________

From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...>

" cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS >

Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 12:56 PM