Guest guest Posted August 5, 2002 Report Share Posted August 5, 2002 Dear all-- I received a very helpful response to my recent posting...below I will illustrate some of the reasons I feel that a more proactive response is critical--and that politics DO interfere with AIDS in many, many ways. AIDS shines the spotlight on our public policies, both their strenghts, their weaknesses--and their abject failures. Jeanne wrote: I felt compelled to respond to this post both as a citizen of the US and as an HIV educator. I'm glad for the reply. Because I feel you have raised MANY important points, I am sharing your reply with the folks on AIDS-India. Jeanne and I agree that Bangkok is a good venue for the next conference....2006 is to be held in Toronto--and I have SERIOUS reservations about that. Jeanne: Certainly, the United States may NEVER hold such a conference; NEVER is an all inclusive term. I see no reason why the US conference could not or would not host a conference. NEVER is a long time--I did use " may " as indicator of my hope that things can change! the outrageous laws against HIV+ immigration were the reason Mann had the site moved from Boston to Amsterdam in 1993 (I believe). Jeanne: The " outrageous law " you refer to is simply a different term than has been used for decades. I have to ask you in all honesty - do other countries throw wide the door for the sick and indigent, and take care of their needs including housing, food, education and medical needs? This is not exactly true; the " outrageous law " was enacted in 1991. Til recently, NO other industrialized country, as far as I know, has a ridiculous law that bars HIV+ people from immigrating based purely on their HIV status. This is simply horrid discrimination. In the U.S., TB patients are not so treated. People with 'flu are not so treated. People with syphilis are not so treated. It is an exclusionary law that stinks simply of discrimination. Unfortunately, Canada has now instituted a mandatory testing for immigrants (see http://ww2.aegis.org/news/ips/2002/IP020624.html) New Zealand is considering such a law. A law initiated in the US by our dear, deranged Helms in 1990, bigot and homophobe extraordinaire and signed by Bush, Sr. in 1991. Such laws merely dump the problem of HIV-infected people back onto countries often with faltering economies (often those raped by American " free trade " policies rather than using " fair trade " programs which can stimulate local economic growth by helping the poorest of the poor and assuring decent compensation for actual work done.) Places where there is no treatment at all, partly due to America's lack of meaningful commitment to the worst pandemic in human history. Jeanne: Well with that language you certainly won't get very far. I should simply sit back and stare happily at the world and be silent? Possibly. But it is hard to watch so many friends die around the world, very often needlessly, but for the greed, stupidity and avarice of cheap, weak-kneed, prevaricating politicians and the corruption upon which so many of them nightly dine. I believe there is room for those who cry out in despair and anger--as long as the anger is not rooted in a desire to cause violence or harm others. Indeed, it is sometimes NECESSARY--as too often " civil discourse " is an easy way to lie and hide from the truth. (Not you, Jeanne--but the politicians, pharma execs and others who have vested interests in indifference.) Jeanne: That should not be surprising [regarding the apparent lack of alternative treatment topics at Barcelona]. Our cultures are very different. Sometimes those differences seem insurmountable. I don't think so. I think we can all - every race, religion, culture learn to accept, and if not accept, at least tolerate each other. If we cannot - the human race is doomed. It has always been my dream to have a holistic medical clinic....one that used western/eastern/ whatever works. That would be the only criteria - proven to do what it claims. I have been the target of a lot of abuse,. mostly verbal from some " mainstream " practioners but that doesn't stop me. Excellent! I agree with all you say in this paragraph! With the slight exception--perhaps due to not understanding what you mean--with regard to different cultures? Maybe we do agree--the " culture " of these International AIDS Conferences is mostly one of the people who run the International AIDS Society (IAS)--and they are very often extremely conservative. As opposed to the Spanish culture--the milieu in which the conference is held can influence the shape and flavor of the conference, but the IAS (and apparently the US govt) has often undue influence on its content and the participants. Jeanne: I was not in attendance in Barcelona because I did not have the money to do so. I don't know where you got the idea that the US supports an abstinence only persepctive. Nothing could be further than the truth! I have a very active but poor non profit organization to help prevent new HIV infections and provide support for their loved ones. We provide condoms free of charge to anyone who needs or wants them. They are from the public health departments, the US public health departments. GMC: I wasn't able to attend Barcelona either. Are these state public health dept? Be aware, tho, that Bush has earmarked a stunning $50 million for " abstinence only " programs. This is obscene. Second, there have been witch hunts like the one in San Francisco where safer sex videos were " condemned " by this Rehnquist woman. Investigations are underway that are designed to prevent honest, clear and realistic information on safer sex, injection drug use....of course, there are still plenty of programs, thank heavens. I do hope your funding is not threatened--but it may well be unless we raise a stink about it. snip...Perhaps I missed it, but in yet another stellar example of our appointed " leader " 's ability to exert his muscle without the benefit of brains, it appears that the Bush administration also forced the removal of Thai speaker, Mechai Viravaidya from the speaker's roster. Jeanne: I would like to see your documentation of this action. I report on what was reported in the Science article. I could send you a copy or fax you one. Or you could obtain it from Science directly? What works best? Ref: Cohen, J. Science, 2002 Jul 19;297(5580):312-313. Jeanne: I respect everyone's right to their opinion. However there are some serious errors here, especially in regard to condoms. The citizens of the US are no different than any other Republic. Individuals do not make laws - politicians do. GMC: Politicians and the laws they create are affected by pubic interest input in the United States. Silence = Death. Jeanne: For the most part those decisions are based upon the reward the lawmaker earns. The US has no more or no less " evil " politicians than other countries. Abstinence is a great idea - but it is only an idea and has no basis in reality. People were designed to procreate. It is a normal physical function. Some people here believe abstinence is the only way to stop AIDS.I believe they are completely wrong, and although it may work for some I teach to use protection every time someone engages in sexual contact. I do not do this for religious purposes. To me it is a huge mistake to make HIV a religious issue. HIV is a health issue. GMC: LOL! Agreed! Tell that GEORGE BUSH, JR!! What do you think the root of his ridiculous policies are? YES! Many countries are strapped with evil, corrupt and inept politicians. But as an American, it is my DUTY to speak out against the evils of this administration. The erosion and destruction of civil rights by people like Ashcroft, the cronyism, the corporate welfare/corruption; the racism, the homophobia, the egregious, failed, costly and lethal " war on some drugs; " the crippling horror of international debt; the rigidity, hypocrisy and cruelty of religious zealots who demean the very value of the Golden Rule that underlies most world religions...I SHALL stand against these injustices. And when I see it in MY country--and know it kills the people I know you care about as well--for we DO agree on a great deal--then it becomes part of a mosaic of evil that stands intolerable. Jeanne: I believe so strongly in all people living together in harmony I have another non profit organization that works towards peace - for all people, everywhere on the planet. I realize people are not going to throw down weapons and dance with their enemies but I had to do something. I agree wholeheartedly. Indeed, peace through turning attention on the scourges of poverty, AIDS, malaria, TB and environmental degradation could heal the world of much of its suffering and away from the sick urge to harm others we see every day in places like the South Bronx, Tibet, Palestine and Israel, northern Ireland, the Congo, Indonesia, Jammu and Kashmir, Nepal.... Jeanne: Many of the issues that have been posted recently are not that different from what I see and do every day. I receive no money from the government for the AIDS Council or the Peace Foundation. I have many clients from all over the world. We struggle with many of the same issues. Making testing and counseling available, providing condoms, getting medicine when you have no money. We are more alike, than not alike. Don't tell me I am too idealistic. Don't tell me there will be no improvement or cure for HIV. Don't tell me peace and cooperation is not possible. I know the enormity of my cause, but I also know there are others who feel the same. AIDS has already created over three million orphans worldwide, if not more. It destroys families and eventually will entire communitites. Let us start here, now, working together, with the attitude that we have to put aside our differences. " Miracles " can be acheived when we work together. Thank you for listening. Jeanne Hatfield Chairman HIV/AIDS Education and Prevention Council http://missoula.bigsky.net/ravaids/ravaidsbigsky (DOT) net Jeanne--I could not agree more with your sentiments and wouldn't dare call you too idealistic! lol--that would be me too. Nor could I agree more with the last paragraph that you have written. Perhaps it is simply that our tactics are different. Politics plays a MAJOR role in the practical approaches that we both agree are essential in terms of condom distribution, safer sex education, needle access programs, medical interventions and access, and so forth. Religious fundamentalists are very often, at least in the United States, behind the invidious programs that are AGAINST distributing condoms...or talking about sexual activity with young people. They live in a " just say no " la-la land (often rendered absurdly hypocritical by their own sexual shenanigans). And right now, some in Congress are pushing to defund many AIDS Service Organizations in the United States--a threat to prevention and treatment programs nationwide; let alone the huge numbers stuck on waiting lists for AIDS Drug Assistance Programs, partly because they are inadequately funded, partly because the pharmaceutical industry is price gouging people to death. I think much of the reluctance to speak about sex in India is rooted in the holdover of n mores thrust upon local people. But situations CAN be created that help people to see which activities put them at greater risk of infection. We must encourage that--but the Bush administration wants to defund ANY family planning programs that dare mention the word abortion. This is our part to play--for all those NGOs struggling so valiantly in India in the face of indifference and outright oppression by local police. Indeed, it is not simply a matter of fundamentalism. Yes, the leadership of the Catholic church should get a BIG damn clue about condoms. It's despicable that they do not in my view. But fundamentalism need not act as a barrier. Look at the situation in Iran! A very fundamentalist Islamic state, yet they have the capacity to be very adult about sexuality, condoms are made available and as a result their population has not gone through the roof. And indeed, it may have helped to slow the rate of disease spread. So how do we induce change? First we have to recognize the problem. Then discover solutions. The condom/lube and safer sex approach is THE most cost effective prevention/vaccine approach we have today. And in an environment of access to treatment, it can be truly successful. But when our country blocks and destroys those efforts by failing to fund programs, by blocking funding to family planning, by propounding idiotic ideas like " abstinence only " to sate some ersatz prudery--when intellectual property rights take precedence over human life, then I shall raise my voice loudly and angrily against these acts of unmitigated evil. M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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