Guest guest Posted May 21, 2002 Report Share Posted May 21, 2002 Dh is very interested in Native American culture, Sara, and he tells me that it was the (deliberate?) introduction of smallpox that decimated the indigenous population of North America. They had no contact with it before the white man arrived, and so no natural resistance. Same as with the Aborigines in Oz I guess, although I'm not sure that was smallpox. Love, light and peace, Sue " All things are connected. We did not weave the web of life; we are but a strand it in. Whatever befalls the earth befalls the people of the earth. " - Chief Seattle > Native Americans and White Man's diseases > > > In the history its told that the native americans got the white man's > diseases, and took it very hard with high mortality. How could it be > with their natural healthy diet? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2002 Report Share Posted May 21, 2002 according to the readings i've done, some disease that is introduced into any population that has not had exposure can have epidemics with high death rates until people develop immunity. over time, death rates and the severity of the disease generally declines. Sue wrote: > Dh is very interested in Native American culture, Sara, and he tells me that > it was the (deliberate?) introduction of smallpox that decimated the > indigenous population of North America. They had no contact with it before > the white man arrived, and so no natural resistance. Same as with the > Aborigines in Oz I guess, although I'm not sure that was smallpox. > > Love, light and peace, > > Sue > > " All things are connected. We did not weave the web of life; we are but a > strand it in. Whatever befalls the earth befalls the people of the > earth. " - Chief Seattle > > > Native Americans and White Man's diseases > > > > > > In the history its told that the native americans got the white man's > > diseases, and took it very hard with high mortality. How could it be > > with their natural healthy diet? > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2002 Report Share Posted May 21, 2002 Sue <angelmouse55@...> wrote: .. Same as with the Aborigines in Oz I guess, although I'm not sure that was smallpox. Love, light and peace, Sue Sue, Up until the early 60's it was illegal for Australian Aboriginals to drink alcohol. They lack the enzyme in the liver to metabolise it correctly. Then 'human rights' stepped in and said it was their right to drink alcohol if they wanted to. It is killing them, Anglo livers have had thousands of years to develop enzymes necessary. The Aborigines were a very pure race, but not any more. Also the high mortality rate is, according to Dr Archie Kalikerinos, who was asked by the Australian Government to find out why so many Aboriginal kids were dying.....after his studies, his advice was, stop vaccinating them, their bodies can't handle it. The Government didn't like that so they ignored the report. Sad....... Joanna --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2002 Report Share Posted May 21, 2002 > Sue <angelmouse55@...> wrote: > . Same as with the > Aborigines in Oz I guess, although I'm not sure that was smallpox. > Joanna said: > > [Also] the high mortality rate is, according to Dr > Archie Kalikerinos, who was asked by the Australian Government to > find out why so many Aboriginal kids were dying.....after his > studies, his advice was, stop vaccinating them, their bodies > can't handle it. > > The Government didn't like that so they ignored the report. > > Sad....... But typical!!! ( Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2002 Report Share Posted May 21, 2002 that is MY queistion: if the native americans have a healthy diet, so the pethogens dont' have a place in their body right? so why the high mortality and death from diseases not supposed to get into their bodies with their healthy diet? any answers???????? sherry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2002 Report Share Posted May 21, 2002 here is my thoroughly unscientific answer: saragubits wrote: > that is MY queistion: if the native americans have a healthy diet, so > the pethogens dont' have a place in their body right? regardless of diet, we are all susceptible to all viruses and bacteria. fortunately, we have such a wonderful immune system that most of the time most of us are healthy. a good diet helps. but some people will have weaker immune systems such as younger children, people already sick, those with auto-immune disease or whatever the reason may be. these people are more likely to be susceptible to the disease being introduced and probably more likely to die as a result of the disease. maybe not because of the disease itself, but complicating factors that would not necessarily occur in someone with a stronger immune system. and of course, it would be naive to assume that those with stronger immune systems could not die also. death and illness are not just a physical phenomenon. death occurs on a spiritual level. someone may choose to leave the planet at a certain time for reasons we cannot comprehend. as guylain lanctot puts so well in her book, illness always starts in the soul. illness in the body is a manifestation of something deeper. i think we need to keep these things in mind. diet cannot prevent something that starts in the soul. diet is a big plus, but it does not mean pathogens cannot become disease in a host. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2002 Report Share Posted May 21, 2002 i have heard that it was acctually after the white peoples (unhealthy) foods had been introduced to the native american diet, ( and other indigenous peoples around the world,) that they acctually started dying from the introduced diseases. > that is MY queistion: if the native americans have a healthy diet, so > the pethogens dont' have a place in their body right? so why the high > mortality and death from diseases not supposed to get into their > bodies with their healthy diet? > > > any answers???????? sherry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2002 Report Share Posted May 21, 2002 > i have heard that it was acctually after the white peoples > (unhealthy) foods had been introduced to the native american diet, ( > and other indigenous peoples around the world,) that they acctually > started dying from the introduced diseases. > unhealthy foods in in 1500's ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2002 Report Share Posted May 22, 2002 Hi just have to add in that alcohol destroys fatty acids. So knowing that the White Man was plying the Indians with alcohol, this is probably what upset their immune systems. Fatty Acids especially Omega 3 is integral to the proper functioning of the immune system. RE: Native Americans and White Man's diseases Sue <angelmouse55@...> wrote: . Same as with the Aborigines in Oz I guess, although I'm not sure that was smallpox. Love, light and peace, Sue Sue, Up until the early 60's it was illegal for Australian Aboriginals to drink alcohol. They lack the enzyme in the liver to metabolise it correctly. Then 'human rights' stepped in and said it was their right to drink alcohol if they wanted to. It is killing them, Anglo livers have had thousands of years to develop enzymes necessary. The Aborigines were a very pure race, but not any more. Also the high mortality rate is, according to Dr Archie Kalikerinos, who was asked by the Australian Government to find out why so many Aboriginal kids were dying.....after his studies, his advice was, stop vaccinating them, their bodies can't handle it. The Government didn't like that so they ignored the report. Sad....... Joanna --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2002 Report Share Posted May 22, 2002 >>that is MY queistion: if the native americans have a healthy diet, so the pethogens dont' have a place in their body right? so why the high mortality and death from diseases not supposed to get into their bodies with their healthy diet?<< I believe it is because they have had no exposure to that disease, so therefore their bodies have never had the chance to develop antibodies to it. If they were exposed in small increments, they would have been able to develop an immunity, but by being bombarded with it, they succumbed And whose to say how good their nutrition was? White man had taken all their good land away and left them with the crap, their food most likely was depleted in nutrients. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2002 Report Share Posted May 22, 2002 You also must remember hygiene at this particular time was not the best. Jackie Noel www.sagaciousairedales.com www.sagaciousdogcountry.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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