Guest guest Posted August 17, 2002 Report Share Posted August 17, 2002 In a message dated 8/17/02 5:04:42 PM GTB Daylight Time, Hjfasufi@... writes: << Hi Sara, that's great news!! I just wish everyone could be so fortunate! >> Yes I am happy about it. He was recommended by a chiro's wife,so it does pay to ask around. sara in ohio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2002 Report Share Posted August 17, 2002 Hi Sara, that's great news!! I just wish everyone could be so fortunate! > > Kudos to the doctor and his staff for being so polite > > I took dd and ds(3yo and 3mo).Nurse took me into the room then came to ask a > few questions like if she had cp and do I have her shot record.I said, " Oh,we > don't vaccinate. " > " OK " she says and makes a note.No pause,no look of discust/disbelief,no > attitude what so ever! > So the doctor comes and he checks them both out(healthy as can be).And by > the way he just looked at the opening to the penis no retracting at all > Anyway so he says, " Well since you aren't doing immunizations there is no > need to follow a specific schedule for visits,but I would like to see him > every 2-3 months and Nimet every six months. " > > I doubt I will go that often,but we'll see.I am just pleased as pie to have a > doctor not lecture me on the issue of vaccines,or even on giving > solids.Just...good job,great looking kids,and keep up the good work. > > Nice > Sara/Ohio > Nimet UC 2-9-99 > HB 4-21-02 > <A HREF= " http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/a/alexander21/ " > > http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/a/alexander21/</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2002 Report Share Posted August 17, 2002 You're lucky to have such a great Dr. I go in on Friday to tell Austin's Dr. I don't want any more vax. (He'll be 4 months in a week he had DTaP, pnuemonococca, and Hib at 2 months that caused hoarseness for 3 weeks and hives. The ER Dr said he would need a crash cart to have any more vax). I'm crossing my fingers, I'm not good at confrontation but this I have to be. Any advise? Jenni ) mom to austin 4-24-02 & dazey (my 4-legged child) wife to joe 7-29-00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2002 Report Share Posted August 18, 2002 In a message dated 8/18/02 5:37:37 AM GTB Daylight Time, Joenjen29@... writes: << The ER Dr said he would need a crash cart to have any more vax). I'm crossing my fingers, I'm not good at confrontation but this I have to be. Any advise? >> I am not good at confrontation either.I was more worried about him messing with my ds's foreskin than the vax issue.What I have done each visit(this was the second,but the vax issue did not come up when ds was 2.5 weeks old) was write up a page and give it at the desk telling them to put it on top of the medical file. On the paper I would write ds's name,the date,birth stats,basics on what he is doing,any health concerns.Then in bold large text I would write specific DO NOT's and other info.Such as: Please do not retract the foreskin or give rectal temps. In your case you can write something to the effect of: NO VACCINATIONS AT THIS VISIT NO FUTURE VACCINATIONS You can write this up and then have the doctor sign it when he comes in and before he examines your son.Also then he can write down info on it for ya. You really don't have to explain yourself,but if they ask I would simply repeat the crash cart recommendation you were given and that it simply is not worth the risk. There are many children that are healthy and UNVACCINATED,so don't concern yourself with the " if you don't vax your baby he will die " . We can die at any time,that is life.In your sons case it sounds like vaccines would just speed him along to poor health and possible death much sooner. You can take a friend for support.I only have pro-vax friends,and dh is pro-vax so taking anyone was a waste of time.I figured if they threw me out they threw me out,but the kids still would not get any vaccines. I am not even into WCC,but do them to appease dh. If the doctor/staff just keep harping on you,and won't drop the subject then it is time to walk out. I faintly recall a few stories where the doctors harped,the parent waivered/listened,and that gave just enough for the nurse to rush in and vax the baby before the parent even had time to react. I would have to question the worth of even going to that doctor if he did not acknowledge the last reaction.If he would not acknowldege that one then perhaps it is best if you just look for another right now.I mean why go through the emotional trauma when you already know he denies the first reaction. It just kills me that some doctors are so die-hard on giving shots even when they are obviously contra-indicated. I can't tell you how good it feels to walk out of a WCC or pass a month when vaccines are usually given and not have to worry about the after effects of the shots.It always makes me sad to read the WCC updates of kids my sons age,see the list of shots they get,and then a day/week later read of how ill they are.Ofcourse the parents usually says, " Oh he must have had a cold coming on,and the vaccines certainly did not help. " Duh! the vaccine probably caused the ill health! Good luck to you! I hope it goes well. Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2002 Report Share Posted August 18, 2002 Hi Jenni, I'm not Sara, but I think having the ER doctors statement verified, would be a good idea. If you think your Ped. will be confrontational over the issue, I would just state that I'm not risking my child's life. My son had a reaction to the prevnar vaccine at 9 months old. The Ped. told me " we just won't give him that vaccine again. " Well, he's not receiving ANY MORE vaccines. > You're lucky to have such a great Dr. I go in on Friday to tell Austin's Dr. > I don't want any more vax. (He'll be 4 months in a week he had DTaP, > pnuemonococca, and Hib at 2 months that caused hoarseness for 3 weeks and > hives. The ER Dr said he would need a crash cart to have any more vax). I'm > crossing my fingers, I'm not good at confrontation but this I have to be. Any > advise? > > > Jenni ) > mom to austin 4-24-02 > & > dazey (my 4-legged child) > wife to joe 7-29-00 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2002 Report Share Posted August 18, 2002 At 10:36 PM 08/17/2002 EDT, you wrote: >You're lucky to have such a great Dr. I go in on Friday to tell Austin's Dr. >I don't want any more vax. (He'll be 4 months in a week he had DTaP, >pnuemonococca, and Hib at 2 months that caused hoarseness for 3 weeks and >hives. The ER Dr said he would need a crash cart to have any more vax). I'm >crossing my fingers, I'm not good at confrontation but this I have to be. Any >advise? > Practice with someone. Just be firm. Remember you are the mommy! He may kick you out -be prepared! If he does it is a blessing in disguise as I wouldn't want a pediatrician who didn't allow me to have an opinion and choice. Don't get into a discussion, don't try to explain - you will nver be able to. Just say no - and keep repeating it like a mantra. You don't have to explain. He is not your father and you are not 10 years old ;-) Sheri > >Jenni ) >mom to austin 4-24-02 > & >dazey (my 4-legged child) >wife to joe 7-29-00 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2002 Report Share Posted August 18, 2002 hi, i must say something here. you may not be good at confrontation but your love and concern for your son outweighs any feeling of inadequacy. feel blessed it was only hoarseness. you don't want to push your luck. if there is a problem find another doctor. my DIL travels approximately 1 1/2 hours with the children to see an alternative pediatrician. you have support .. RHODA SKAVRONECK YOUNG LIVING ESSENTIAL OILS CONSULTANT Phone 352-314-2579 Fax 352-314-0519 email: rhodaf@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2002 Report Share Posted August 18, 2002 Jenni, Any flack, just ask them " What do you not understand about the word NO? " Jackie Noel www.sagaciousairedales.com www.sagaciousdogcountry.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2002 Report Share Posted August 18, 2002 I feel lucky every day it was only hoarseness and hives. I know it could have been so much worse. Thank you all for your support I'll let you know what happens. Jenni ) mom to austin 4-24-02 & dazey (my 4-legged child) wife to joe 7-29-00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2002 Report Share Posted August 18, 2002 That's awful!! That poor boy! Kay I have heard horror stoires on this list! One woman ped went right in - in front of the other children - and forcibly retracted a child - 6 or 8 or 9 something like that in age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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