Guest guest Posted February 5, 2002 Report Share Posted February 5, 2002 Tim positively enjoys having his ears cleaned by the ENT!! They use a metal thing with a hoop on it and sometimes clear out whole cauliflower fields. Hard to beleive that such a small boy could harbour so much stuff in his ears. Makes sense of his hearing tests tho!! Tim sits on my knee and I hold his head still, not becoz he fights but becoz he wants to see what is going on. sue wong JTesmer799@... wrote: > In a message dated 2/6/02 1:43:16 PM Canada Central Standard Time, > Roxhopp@... writes: > > > So what do you do? Does anyone have any suggestions? > > > > > > when was this age they strapped her to a papoose board and at least two > nurses were in there to hold her shoulders and head. :-o > > Also you might want to ask if you could use some type of drops for a few days > before an appointment, this might help loose the wax and make it easier to > remove. There really is no easy way to do this, fought this til she was > 8 or 9 and still will occasionally object and have to be held. > > Joy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2002 Report Share Posted February 6, 2002 In a message dated 2/6/02 11:43:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, Roxhopp@... writes: > Hello All: > > I hope you can advise me on this one. My daughter Faith (3 1/2) was just > seen at the ENT for a routine tubs check up. One hour before the > appointment > I discovered she had a fever but brought her anyway because The Dr. is hard > > to book with and I thought it might an ear infection. > > Well, her ears need to be cleaned because they were blocked with wax. He > could not see the tubes so the Dr. Attempted to clean them. > Well, faith as some sensory issues and prefers not to have her head held. > The Dr. Insisted I hold her still (highly impossible) while he tried to > clean > her ears with these small sharp scissors type instruments. > > To make a long agonizing story short. I told him this would not work, she > was cranky due to fever, and with sensory issue she WOULD NOT BE still. He > > said the only other way is to sedate her. By the way....we was not very > patient.and I comment that the came highly recommend by many parents with > kids who have needs. > > So what do you do? Does anyone have any suggestions? > > Change Drs. right away. I don't know any 3 1/2 year old that would lay still while the dr. dug wax out of the ear. Our ped. uses a little stick with a loop on the end. There are other ways besides putting a child under. This guy just doesn't want to take the time. Our ENT moved out of town and we went to one that was highly recommended. just didn't trust him. Probably because every time laid his head down the guy was trying to move it around rather than giving time to adjust and get comfortable and working with him. We are changing again because this one is way to casual about 's other medical conditions and how that impacts our medical decisions. I don't consider myself hard to work with when it comes to dealing with professionals but I have learned to shop around to make life the best it can be for . Karyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2002 Report Share Posted February 6, 2002 If he can't be patient with her sensory issues I would look for another doctor...... JMHO. Sedating her for cleaning her ears is out of the question. Jackie, Mom to 14ds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2002 Report Share Posted February 6, 2002 In a message dated 2/6/2002 2:56:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, KVanRyzin@... writes: > Our ped. uses a little stick with a > loop on the end. There are other ways besides putting a child under. This > guy > just doesn't want to take the time. > My daughter never had wax removed by her ENT but he always took his time with her, let her hold the instruments and hand them to him, let her look in his ear, she got to move the chair up and down ... she LOVED going there! Cheryl in VA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2002 Report Share Posted February 6, 2002 In a message dated 2/6/02 1:43:16 PM Canada Central Standard Time, Roxhopp@... writes: > So what do you do? Does anyone have any suggestions? > > when was this age they strapped her to a papoose board and at least two nurses were in there to hold her shoulders and head. :-o Also you might want to ask if you could use some type of drops for a few days before an appointment, this might help loose the wax and make it easier to remove. There really is no easy way to do this, fought this til she was 8 or 9 and still will occasionally object and have to be held. Joy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2002 Report Share Posted February 6, 2002 In a message dated 2/6/02 3:41:54 PM Pacific Standard Time, JTesmer799@... writes: > when was this age they strapped her to a papoose board and at least two > > nurses were in there to hold her shoulders and head. :-o > > Also you might want to ask if you could use some type of drops for a few > days > before an appointment, this might help loose the wax and make it easier to > remove. There really is no easy way to do this, fought this til she > was > 8 or 9 and still will occasionally object and have to be held. > > Joy > There is over the counter ear drops that can soften the wax and then you can irrigate it (run water into it) and wash the wax out -can only use if they don't have tubes or a hole in the ear drum. I would think that laying on their back with head in the water or moving around under the shower would get some water in there. Karyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2002 Report Share Posted February 6, 2002 Here in Oz you can use Waxsol or Cerumol to help to loosen wax. Some drops like Auregan has an anethestic in them ( benzoczine I think off the top of my head) to help-this is more for fluid than wax. A few ear drops like Aquaear have stuff in them to help prevent and treat swimmers ears. It also acts as an antifungal to help stop the ear infections. Most of these sorts of preps can only be used where there is no infection, and probably no tubes, and definitely NO PAIN. These products are available here, I am not sure what the US equivalent would be. I can get generic names if you need to check it out. One thing to keep in mind too, is that there aren't allot of ear preps available, because your ears are so delicate-if in doubt, always see your gp, or pead. Sorry pharmacy background coming out here........I have nothing to do at the minute but read my mail, and wait for this jellybean to stop cooking.......... You may hear allot from me in the next few days so sorry in advance. -- Leis Mum to BJ 4 DS and Jellybean due early Feb 2002 ICQ# 8168619 ID leisbj " A little worry can break your back, A little good news can make your heart leap, A little dew can make the grass live, A little bee can make honey. " Ankh-Sheshonk from: " The Living Wisdom of Ancient Egypt. " Christian Jacq Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2002 Report Share Posted February 6, 2002 Sometimes, 's ENT will work on his beanie baby's ear first. His pediatrician was the last one to clean out his ear (just to see it!). She put peroxide in first (no tube so that is ok to do) and then scraped out the gunk. He loves having peroxide in his ear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2002 Report Share Posted February 6, 2002 Myah just got hers done yesterday. I really like her ENT. She is very gentle and patient. Myah didn't even cry. I would try for a different doc. kelly, mom to Myah 1yr Cleaning ears > Hello All: > > I hope you can advise me on this one. My daughter Faith (3 1/2) was just > seen at the ENT for a routine tubs check up. One hour before the appointment > I discovered she had a fever but brought her anyway because The Dr. is hard > to book with and I thought it might an ear infection. > > Well, her ears need to be cleaned because they were blocked with wax. He > could not see the tubes so the Dr. Attempted to clean them. > Well, faith as some sensory issues and prefers not to have her head held. > The Dr. Insisted I hold her still (highly impossible) while he tried to clean > her ears with these small sharp scissors type instruments. > > To make a long agonizing story short. I told him this would not work, she > was cranky due to fever, and with sensory issue she WOULD NOT BE still. He > said the only other way is to sedate her. By the way....we was not very > patient.and I comment that the came highly recommend by many parents with > kids who have needs. > > So what do you do? Does anyone have any suggestions? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 In a message dated 2/7/02 9:46:45 AM Canada Central Standard Time, drf218@... writes: > > They had to use the papoose on Nic once...it was really unpleasant for both > of us. > It is isn't it? But lest you think the ENT wasn't patient, he was, it's just that she was not going to let anyone do anything with her ears, she even hated having them just look. And it did get the job done so we just did it, had the tears and she was usually in a good mood within 5 or 10 mins after the 'trauma' so it couldn't have been that bad. one reason she finally got used to letting the drs. look in her ears was because the schools audiologist started looking every time he came to her school, this also lets me know if she needs to have wax buildup removed (since she uses HA's she needs wax removal more so then someone who doesn't have a plug stuck in the end of their ear canal) that was somehting like a couple times a month back then, which was great since there is no way I could have gone to her ent frequently enough to get her used to it. So if you have a sensitive child you might want to try having the schools audiologist work on getting a peek, even if he/ she really can't see much because of tiny ear canals, at least it doesn't cost anything. LOL Joy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 In a message dated 2/6/2002 2:43:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, Roxhopp@... writes: << By the way....we was not very patient.and I comment that the came highly recommend by many parents with kids who have needs. >> Faith, I went through 4 ENTs in less than a year, until I found one I trust and who shows respect for my son. Liam's cardiologist teased me that when I run out of ENTs on Long Island, she'll find me some in Manhattan. Call me difficult, but we're also on our second opthamalogist, GI doctor and neurologist. Liam has sensory issues too, lots of ear wax, lots of ear infections and is incredibley strong. The doctor is patient and we call in a nurse for some extra help. On our first visit with this ENT, he said, " If your son can't hear, he'll have more trouble learning. " He's been very agressive trying to maximize his hearing and tries not to prescribe antibiotics all the time. I'd keep shopping if I were you. Kathy, Liam's mom (3 3/4) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 They had to use the papoose on Nic once...it was really unpleasant for both of us. Di, mom to Jake(19,nda) and 4 (DS) Pennsylvania when was this age they strapped her to a papoose board and at least two nurses were in there to hold her shoulders and head. :-o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 Call this strange, but Austin was on antibiotics for almost the whole first 3 years of his life for ear infections. Ok, Drs. wouldn't put tubes in. Several different ones. Now, when I took him to the health dept. to get his vaccine chart checked, to make sure all was well for school, it was. They also told me that there was a new vaccine out, for I think Meningitis, but one side effect was that it seemed to prevent ear infections in some children. Ok, I said do it. Well, let me tell you, since the shot, not one, in 2 years! It has been a great relief to us. I can find out more on the vaccine if anyone is interested. Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 In a message dated 2/7/2002 4:19:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, djackht writes: << They also told me that there was a new vaccine out, for I think Meningitis, but one side effect was that it seemed to prevent ear infections in some children. Ok, I said do it. Well, let me tell you, since the shot, not one, in 2 years! It has been a great relief to us >> Yup, It's the pneumococcal vaccine and Liam had it too. I think it's helped, but it hasn't prevented them completely. It only helps with a certain type of bacteria, but there are several kinds that cause infections. My attitude is that anything that can help keep him well is worth a try. Kathy, Liam's mom (3 3/4) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 In a message dated 2/6/02 5:13:39 PM Central Standard Time, wildwards@... writes: > > Our ped. uses a little stick with a > > loop on the end. There are other ways besides putting a child under. This > > guy > > just doesn't want to take the time. > had wax removed from his ears one time and the doc used some thing like that loop. The doc who let her look in his ears, etc. sounds good. Jessie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 In a message dated 2/6/02 6:59:13 PM Central Standard Time, cindysue@... writes: > Sometimes, 's ENT will work on his beanie baby's ear first. His > pediatrician was the last one to clean out his ear (just to see it!). She > put peroxide in first (no tube so that is ok to do) and then scraped out > the gunk. He loves having peroxide in his ear. > > > > THAT'S what it was. I've been trying to think what it was I used in my > daughter's ears when she was little. She kept having fungus infections and > I would warm a bit of peroxide and drop a bit in and then had a med of some > kind too. She said the peroxide bubbled and sounded funny in there. This > was the doctor's recommendation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 The shot is pneumococcal conjugate vaccine. My son had ear infections all the time. When he was 2 1/2, that was when the immunization came out, and he got his. He has never had ear infections since then. Nikki has had her 2nd ear infection now. She got her first dose of immunization for that already. I am hoping it will stop the ear infections. Joyce mom to Nikki 5 1/2 months old DS Re: Cleaning ears > Call this strange, but Austin was on antibiotics for almost the whole first 3 > years of his life for ear infections. Ok, Drs. wouldn't put tubes in. > Several different ones. Now, when I took him to the health dept. to get his > vaccine chart checked, to make sure all was well for school, it was. They > also told me that there was a new vaccine out, for I think Meningitis, but > one side effect was that it seemed to prevent ear infections in some > children. Ok, I said do it. Well, let me tell you, since the shot, not one, > in 2 years! It has been a great relief to us. I can find out more on the > vaccine if anyone is interested. > > Beth > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 In a message dated 2/7/02 10:09:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, writes: > They had to use the papoose on Nic once...it was really unpleasant for both > > of us. > > > > It is isn't it? Years ago I worked in a pediatrician's office and a 3 or 4 year old came in with a laceration that required stitching. The pedi asked me to get the room set up and get the child strapped onto the papoose board. So, as I was setting up the room I started telling the child a story. It was one that I was making up on the spot about a child (who just happened to have the same name) that needed stitch's. In the story I told how brave this child was about just getting up and lying down on the board all by himself. As it turned out the child was able to do it even as he was crying about his boo-boo. The doc came in and heard me telling the story, stitched the child up and was removing his gloves. So, I told the boy I would finish the story when he came back in to have the stitch's rremoved. Both the doctor and the child immediately protested--they wanted me to finish the story right then! When the child came back in for the removal he asked if I could be the nurse (there were 5 nurses that worked in the office) that took him in and would I tell another story. We tried to reduce the trauma the surrounds being restrained as much as possible. I'm sorry your experiences were so difficult. nancy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2002 Report Share Posted February 14, 2002 We have used baby oil drops in the ears at night and rinsed the ears with an ear wash bulb with warm soapy water and then warm water the next morning. This helped alot. We also put in drops of 50% alcohol/50% vinegar on a weekly basis and everytime after swimming. mom to Bridget 8 ds Leis <lisa@...> wrote: Here in Oz you can use Waxsol or Cerumol to help to loosen wax. Some drops like Auregan has an anethestic in them ( benzoczine I think off the top of my head) to help-this is more for fluid than wax. A few ear drops like Aquaear have stuff in them to help prevent and treat swimmers ears. It also acts as an antifungal to help stop the ear infections. Most of these sorts of preps can only be used where there is no infection, and probably no tubes, and definitely NO PAIN. These products are available here, I am not sure what the US equivalent would be. I can get generic names if you need to check it out. One thing to keep in mind too, is that there aren't allot of ear preps available, because your ears are so delicate-if in doubt, always see your gp, or pead. Sorry pharmacy background coming out here........I have nothing to do at the minute but read my mail, and wait for this jellybean to stop cooking.......... You may hear allot from me in the next few days so sorry in advance. -- Leis Mum to BJ 4 DS and Jellybean due early Feb 2002 ICQ# 8168619 ID leisbj " A little worry can break your back, A little good news can make your heart leap, A little dew can make the grass live, A little bee can make honey. " Ankh-Sheshonk from: " The Living Wisdom of Ancient Egypt. " Christian Jacq Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for messages to go to the sender of the message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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