Re: Dr. Carbone's conferences

[Guest guest]

I felt like Dr. Carbone's conference covered lots of areas. The only thing

is it definitely leaves you wanting more. love,kat

[Guest guest]

I have same questions Isabel asked.

My son started doing traditional Lovaas four months ago and he's started

echoing, but his receptive language level is really low.

I'm very interested in this DTT-NEt approach, but I'm thinking perhaps my

son is not ready for it???

Satoko

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>Subject: [ ] Dr. Carbone's conferences

>Date: 20 Dec 1999 21:03:58 -0000

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>Kat and others who have attended Dr. C's conference:

>I have noticed that several of the parents who are just so pleased with the

>progress

>their children have made after switching to Dr. C and S/P methodology have

>children

>that had strong echoics, lots of receptives when they made the switch. Is

>the focus

>of Dr. C's conference expressive functional language? Does he address the

>needs of

>the kids with very weak receptive skllls? Poor echoics?

>I love all the threads on RFFC, spontaneous tacting and such . . . but our

>needs,

>and a lot of my questions have to do with very beginning level stuff. Are

>there

>any listers working with Dr. C whose children had weak receptives,

>poor

>echoics when they began working with Dr. C. I would love to hear how he

>approches

>these challenging areas.

>

>All the best!

>Isabel

>ipawling@...

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[Guest guest]

I have worked with children who became the verbal behavior approach with

varying skill levels. Many people come into verbal behavior after using a

Lovaas style program which tends to focus on more receptive skills. I have

never done an assessment on a child coming out of a Lovaas type program not

have the assessment skewed toward the receptive (this does not mean that all

Lovaas style programs are that way, but the ones in the area I live in are).

This may be why you don't see a lot of children with weaknesses in that

area. However, this method does address those issues and so did his

conference.

He does talk about and show videos of children with weak echoics. Including

those children with whom he begins with sign language.

In dealing with weak receptive skills Vince would most likely use (I

wouldn't want to speak for him) errorless learning with prompt fading. The

steps have been listed before on this list if I am not mistaken. In dealing

with weak echoics it would depend on how weak. It would have to be

determined whether reinforcement of successive approximations (reinforcement

of pronunciations that are closer and closer to the real word) would be

successful (at least in the short term) or whether sign language would be

used. The goal would remain to get vocal verbal behavior from the child.

One of the reasons that I like this approach and using the s/p method is

that the programs are really geared toward the individual child no matter

what skill level they are at. Unlike with the cookie cutter programs I had

previously been exposed to this approach is so individualized that no two

programs are alike. Each child works on the skills that they are weak in

and expand the skills that they are strong in. Because of this

individuality the approach can be used with children any where on the range

of skills. As this list is so small the children represented on this list

certainly cannot cover the wide variety of skill and skill levels possible

so don't think that because people don't talk about children of your child's

skill spectrum that this approach is not for you.

Sharon

[ ] Dr. Carbone's conferences

> From: ipawling@...

>

> Kat and others who have attended Dr. C's conference:

> I have noticed that several of the parents who are just so pleased with

the progress

> their children have made after switching to Dr. C and S/P methodology have

children

> that had strong echoics, lots of receptives when they made the switch. Is

the focus

> of Dr. C's conference expressive functional language? Does he address the

needs of

> the kids with very weak receptive skllls? Poor echoics?

> I love all the threads on RFFC, spontaneous tacting and such . . . but our

needs,

> and a lot of my questions have to do with very beginning level stuff. Are

there

> any listers working with Dr. C whose children had weak receptives,

poor

> echoics when they began working with Dr. C. I would love to hear how he

approches

> these challenging areas.

>

> All the best!

> Isabel

> ipawling@...

>

> >

[Guest guest]

Sharon said:

> One of the reasons that I like this approach and using the s/p method is

> that the programs are really geared toward the individual child no matter

> what skill level they are at. Unlike with the cookie cutter programs I

had

> previously been exposed to this approach is so individualized that no two

> programs are alike. Each child works on the skills that they are weak in

> and expand the skills that they are strong in. Because of this

> individuality the approach can be used with children any where on the

range

> of skills.

I can not agree with Sharon's above statement more. I have view a lot of

programs over the last 3 years. (I am a visual learner and it has helped me

to see other programs to know how to teach my child.) The thing that has

amazed me most (over the last few months)... is that all the programs I have

seen of Dr. Carbones, are very individualized. He sees the child for the

child. He is one of the few professionals that I have met that takes the

ABLLS and history and develops a program for that child. (it is not the

ABLLS alone.... that would provide you with the cookie cutter approach. " if

your child is here, do this. " but it is the history and how the consultant

can absorb what is being said, and use it to work in the child's favor.)

Now that is a good consultant! The above is the reason, I feel we as

parents can be consultants for our own children. 1. We learn how to use

the ABLLS., 2. look at the child and develop a program to meet his needs.

It has only been recently that I have been able to observe the differences

in children, instead of saying " my child fits that mold, we can do that. "

It has only been recently that I have been able to look at the techniques

and how to use those with my child. Dr. Carbone has basically exposed me to

seeing there is more to having a successful program... then just seeing my

child in parts but as a whole...

WE, AS PARENTS, CAN DO THIS FOR OUR CHILDREN!!!

Rhonda