Juicers

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

I use a blender on low speed for a couple of short burst and the juice

tastes fine. I have no way of testing for enzymes activity. Do you or

anyone in the group know what I should do to check for enzyme activity?

Your " manual " juicer is interesting to me because I am going to work

in Guatemala for a year or so and I would like a non electric juicer.

What is yours like? Name of maker etc.,.

Thanks,

Grandpa Jerry

[Guest guest]

Dear Sprout people,

I have read in " rawgourmet@... " that the enzymes are retained at

temperatures under 48 degrees centigrade(118 degrees F.). Anyone know

more about it? Raw gourmet by Noni is an interesting site.

Grandpa Jerry

[Guest guest]

Hello I have a champion juicer, which I bought about a year ago. I'm very happy

with it, use it nearly everyday. I had a juiceman before that, didn't like it.

One of the main things to consider is, how easy is it to clean. If it's a pain

in the neck to clean then you are not as inclined to use it. Of course the yield

it gets you is important too as organic produce is not cheap & you should get

the max for your money.

Chris

Juicers

Hi All!

I know this was discussed a while ago, but now I am ready to get a

juicer so it's on my mind. Does anyone have an Omega 8001 juicer?

Do you have any preferences or recommendations about juicers for

wheatgrass and other veggies?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

fitzpatrick wrote:

> Hello I have a champion juicer, which I bought about a year ago. I'm very

happy with it, use it nearly everyday. I had a juiceman before that, didn't like

it. One of the main things to consider is, how easy is it to clean. If it's a

pain in the neck to clean then you are not as inclined to use it. Of course the

yield it gets you is important too as organic produce is not cheap & you should

get the max for your money.

>

> Chris

>

Good morning;

I don't own a juicer, I have salavated over the idea, but right now they're

a little out of reach.

A place on the web has lots of good information on juicers

http://www.discountjuicers.com

they also have a comparison chart of different juicer types

http://www.discountjuicers.com/compare.html

I'm also dreaming of owning a dehydrator, I'm having a hard time convincing

my wife that raw food, juicing and organic are important to our diet. I'm

still working on

getting her to eat sprouts.

Happy sprouting/jucing

[Guest guest]

Hi! I have been juicing for quite a while and i would like to add to this, if I

may. I had

a Champion Juicer for 20 years and it was a good juicer for everything but the

greens

that I now juice. I grow my own wheatgrass and juice a flat to a flat and a

half a day.

It burned the Champion up. So if you are going to just juice regular fruits

and veggies,

the Champion is great. But if you want to do Wheat grass, you really need a

wheat grass

juicer, a Green Power, or a Norwalk. JMO

Joanne

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" Be the change you want to see in the world "

Gandhi

[Guest guest]

Hello Joanne

Thanks for all the great info on wheat grass. I have a champion

juicer, and after reading your posts, I would like to include more wheat grass

in my diet. Are you saying a champion juicer will not be able to juice wheat

grass properly or that it can do it, but the machine will suffer eventually?

Re: Juicers

Hi! I have been juicing for quite a while and i would like to add to this, if

I may. I had

a Champion Juicer for 20 years and it was a good juicer for everything but the

greens

that I now juice. I grow my own wheatgrass and juice a flat to a flat and a

half a day.

It burned the Champion up. So if you are going to just juice regular fruits

and veggies,

the Champion is great. But if you want to do Wheat grass, you really need a

wheat grass

juicer, a Green Power, or a Norwalk. JMO

Joanne

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" Be the change you want to see in the world "

Gandhi

[Guest guest]

Hello Joanne

Thanks for all the great info on wheat grass. I have a champion

juicer, and after reading your posts, I would like to include more wheat grass

in my diet. Are you saying a champion juicer will not be able to juice wheat

grass properly or that it can do it, but the machine will suffer eventually?

Re: Juicers

Hi! I have been juicing for quite a while and i would like to add to this, if

I may. I had

a Champion Juicer for 20 years and it was a good juicer for everything but the

greens

that I now juice. I grow my own wheatgrass and juice a flat to a flat and a

half a day.

It burned the Champion up. So if you are going to just juice regular fruits

and veggies,

the Champion is great. But if you want to do Wheat grass, you really need a

wheat grass

juicer, a Green Power, or a Norwalk. JMO

Joanne

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" Be the change you want to see in the world "

Gandhi

[Guest guest]

Joanne,

I too have a GreenPower juicer, I would be interested to know what types

of problems you're having with yours...I'm sorry, if you've chronicled

it on this list I must've missed it

I wish you luck though, but I would like to know what broke so I could

watch for it in mine...

-J

* Joanne <joanne@...> [01/21/02 12:29]:

> Hi! I know I was talking about how good the Green Life juicer has

> been and that I had a problem with it that I was attempting to work

> out with the company. Well, I am having a horrible time dealing with

> them and they do not want to honor their warrantee. Please keep this

> in mind if thinking of obtaining one. I will keep you posted as to the

> results I obtain, but at this moment, i would not recommend them. I

> did not want anyone to buy one on the recommendation I gave before

> only to be as disappointed as I am now. Will let you know if

> anything changes, Thanks

>

> Joanne ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ " Be

> the change you want to see in the world " Gandhi

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

>I too have a GreenPower juicer, I would be interested to know what types

>of problems you're having with yours.

Hi, My juicer is putting out 4/5th of foam and 1/5 of juice right now, no

matter what I do. It did not do this to begin with so there

must be a problem. I have read the manual backwards and forwards, called the

man I bought it from, who says he cannot help

me and to call the factory, which I did. They told me to put flax seed oil in

it, (not an acceptable solution as far as I am

concerned.). This juicer is still under warantee and i can get no help. They

do not return phone calls etc. I was told the owner

was in and then I cannot talk to him. This sends up a red flag as to what to

expect. I am now so mad at them I do not think any

solution will be acceptable unless its my money back. Sorry, but I am quite

upset over this. Sincerely. Joanne

[Guest guest]

Joanne, call the better business bureau, Better yet, call consumer affairs. Call

the local t.v. station, they always like 'consumer been done wrong by business'

stories. <g> Call the person the salesman works for that you bought it from.

Call stores, ask them what they suggest. Tell them your nightmare, warn them not

to buy this juicer to resell in their stores. Eventually, you might get your

money back and you will definitely get a feeling of satisfaction from doing all

you can to protect someone else going thru this. And the company *will* find out

with all this going on. Bad press is bad press.

If you give me/us the phone number, I for one, will call them and tell them they

need to replace your $, because the bad press is moving along and no one will

buy their product. A few of us doing that should get them moving in your

direction.

grrrrr, people like that make me angry.

Janine

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[Guest guest]

Joanne,

I don't have a GreenPower Juicer, so I have a

question. Does it have different speeds, screens

and/or nozzels? And how long ago did you buy it?

Thanks,

Kitty

--- JaninePh <JaninePh@...> wrote:

> Joanne, call the better business bureau, Better yet,

> call consumer affairs. Call the local t.v. station,

> they always like 'consumer been done wrong by

> business' stories. <g> Call the person the salesman

> works for that you bought it from. Call stores, ask

> them what they suggest. Tell them your nightmare,

> warn them not to buy this juicer to resell in their

> stores. Eventually, you might get your money back

> and you will definitely get a feeling of

> satisfaction from doing all you can to protect

> someone else going thru this. And the company *will*

> find out with all this going on. Bad press is bad

> press.

> If you give me/us the phone number, I for one, will

> call them and tell them they need to replace your $,

> because the bad press is moving along and no one

> will buy their product. A few of us doing that

> should get them moving in your direction.

> grrrrr, people like that make me angry.

>

> Janine

>

> fade scars, stretch marks

> www.HerbaTherapy.com

> join the newsletter for specials!

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Janine! I guess I need all the help I can get! They refuse to budge.

Told me they would talk to the owner and have him

call me back and now they don't even answer me-just send me to voice mail. I

bought it in May last year, It worked fine all

summer long, then I started having problems and I called them. They told me I

would have to put the cut grass in the refrigerator

for a day and the gears in for a few hours each day. I told them that was not

satisfactory as the grass looses vitamins after being

cut and I like to juice it fresh . Then they told me to add flax seed oil to

the juicer. I told that that too, was unsatisfactory, as if the

juicer worked well to begin with, its obvious something is wrong. They claim

they have never had this problem and so it just

doesn't exist, and refuse to go any further. I cannot send it back with out

preapproval number and they will not give it to me.

The guarentee says its it is guarenteed for 5 years and this is only 8 months

old. But I have been in contact with them off and on

for a few months. The guy I bought it from also refused to help, saying I have

to deal with the factory. Its a green life juicer from

the Green Power Company, Santa Fe Springs, Ca. Phone #1-888-618-2078 I

bought it from Vitality Plus, Heyworth Ill.

On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 13:50:48 -0700, JaninePh wrote:

>Joanne, call the better business bureau, Better yet, call consumer affairs.

Call the local t.v. station, they always like 'consumer

been done wrong by business' stories. <g> Call the person the salesman works for

that you bought it from. Call stores, ask them

what they suggest. Tell them your nightmare, warn them not to buy this juicer to

resell in their stores. Eventually, you might get

your money back and you will definitely get a feeling of satisfaction from doing

all you can to protect someone else going thru this.

And the company *will* find out with all this going on. Bad press is bad press.

>If you give me/us the phone number, I for one, will call them and tell them

they need to replace your $, because the bad press is

moving along and no one will buy their product. A few of us doing that should

get them moving in your direction.

>grrrrr, people like that make me angry.

>

>Janine

>

>fade scars, stretch marks

>www.HerbaTherapy.com

>join the newsletter for specials!

>HerbaTherapy/join

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi -

We have an Omega 1000 and have been very happy with it. They also have a long

warranty (10 years) on the unit which was important to us.

Kathy

Re: Re: Jan and Jim-Juicers

In a message dated 3/7/03 12:07:19 PM Pacific Standard Time,

skyqtee@... writes:

> If you are planning on juicing fruits and veg's my personal favorite

> is the Jack Lalane Juicer on got mine for only $99 dollars when it

> was advertised at the special price on TV. It has a huge opening

> for the fuits and vegs and it's very sturdy

Thank you Jan and Jim for your info on your juicers. I will look into both

of them. So far it seems as though I am getting positive feedback on the

Champion, Omega's, and Green Power juicers (or is it green star?). Would you

both agree that these are all good juicers too? Thank you

[Guest guest]

I wanted to mention that the Gerson Institute also keeps a list of used

juicers of this type that they recommend -- generally available for about

half the original cost or less. They buy back from patients and re-sell the

juicers.

Peggy

In a message dated 3/7/03 5:08:30 PM,

writes:

<< I have researched and tried many juicers on the market. The

Gerson therapy recommends a juice press which will run about

$2000 dollars very time consuming and high maintenance. You

might be able to find a used one for cheaper if you are really

interested in this type. >>

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[Guest guest]

ONE OF THE BETTER JUICERS ON THE MARKET IS THE GREEN STAR...

[Guest guest]

,

I have researched and tried many juicers on the market. The

Gerson therapy recommends a juice press which will run about

$2000 dollars very time consuming and high maintenance. You

might be able to find a used one for cheaper if you are really

interested in this type.

It will also depend on what you want to juice? Are you planning

on juicing fruits and vegs or wheatgrass or both.

If you are planning on juicing fruits and veg's my personal favorite

is the Jack Lalane Juicer on got mine for only $99 dollars when it

was advertised at the special price on TV. It has a huge opening

for the fuits and vegs and it's very sturdy. I have also owned

my share of the Juiceman juicers and many many others.

If you plan on juicing wheatgrass it best to use a juicer specifically

for wheatgrass.

p.s. If you live near Costco they have juiced pressed carrot juice.

But I don't think it's organic.

-Jan

> Can anyone please recommend a really good juicer to me? I see the

ones in

> Target and Walmart that say Juiceman Jr. and such but I thought I

remember

> someone on this list saying there are much better brands out there

on the

> market.

> Thank you, karen

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have a " Green Power " juicer. I think that it is one of the better

juicers a person can buy. The Omega is supposed to do a pretty good

job. These juicers are quite a bit more spendy than your Target

variety juicer.

Many of the lower priced juicers use centrifugal force to seperate

the juice from the pulp. That is they spin the pulp till the juice

flies out. My thinking is that this approach of seperation will

reduce the antioxidant benefit of the juice because as the small

particles of juice fly through the air the antioxidants in the juice

are probably binding with oxygen in the air.

The GreenPower machine crushes the vegetables and then uses screws to

press the pulp to remove the juice. I think the nutrient value of

the juice is better preserved with this machine and other machines

that use this method of juice separation. There is less exposure of

the juice to the air.

One way to test this would be to juice carrots in both type machines

and time how quickly the juice turns brown. The juice turns brown as

a result of oxidation. I've thought about doing such a comparison

test but do not have a juiceman.

In the long run, the most expensive part of the juicer is the money

you will be paying for the vegetables. So invest in a good juicer.

All the best,

Jim

> Can anyone please recommend a really good juicer to me? I see the

ones in

> Target and Walmart that say Juiceman Jr. and such but I thought I

remember

> someone on this list saying there are much better brands out there

on the

> market.

> Thank you, karen

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I have researched and tried many juicers on the market. The

Gerson therapy recommends a juice press which will run about

$2000 dollars very time consuming and high maintenance. You

might be able to find a used one for cheaper if you are really

interested in this type.

It will also depend on what you want to juice? Are you planning

on juicing fruits and vegs or wheatgrass or both.

If you are planning on juicing fruits and veg's my personal favorite

is the Jack Lalane Juicer on got mine for only $99 dollars when it

was advertised at the special price on TV. It has a huge opening

for the fuits and vegs and it's very sturdy. I have also owned

my share of the Juiceman juicers and many many others.

If you plan on juicing wheatgrass it best to use a juicer specifically

for wheatgrass.

p.s. If you live near Costco they have juiced pressed carrot juice.

But I don't think it's organic.

-Jan

> Can anyone please recommend a really good juicer to me? I see the

ones in

> Target and Walmart that say Juiceman Jr. and such but I thought I

remember

> someone on this list saying there are much better brands out there

on the

> market.

> Thank you, karen

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I haven't seen one that I like better than a Champion. They sell for

approx. $225 . Get a screen that has the larger holes and you'll get

more fiber as well.

Most come with the small holed screens, and mine eventually got

clogged.

I can wash veg, set-up and break-down, and drink the 20-30 ounces of

juice in about 20 minutes.

It has a semi-industrial grade motor. 3 horse power, I think.

[Guest guest]

I have a friend who has lived on only a liquid diet the last 6 years. He

says the best juicer is the green machine or some such name out of Korea. He

would not. He has tried them all and did say that the champion sucks.

Flynn

1447 Peachtree St. NE

Suite 414

Atlanta, Ga. 30309

404-881-1700

Tao400@...

Re: juicers

> I haven't seen one that I like better than a Champion. They sell for

> approx. $225 . Get a screen that has the larger holes and you'll get

> more fiber as well.

> Most come with the small holed screens, and mine eventually got

> clogged.

> I can wash veg, set-up and break-down, and drink the 20-30 ounces of

> juice in about 20 minutes.

> It has a semi-industrial grade motor. 3 horse power, I think.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

> i'd like to get some advice from people who do alot of juicing. i

> have a green life which is great for leafy things, but doesn't work

> at all for soft fruits

>

> i would love to have a continuous juicer that works for everything

> with a large spout so i can just put a big carrot or a whole apple in

> it. i had an omega juicer a long time ago and it was ok, but it

> wasnt continuous and it would get clogged up very easily.

>

> there is the new jack lalane one with a large spout or they have

> these commercial ruby juicers that i can get wholesale on restaurant

> row here in manhattan.

Hi Art,

For me, there is only one answer... my Green Power for greens and

veggies, and my VitaMix for fruits.

Fruits are for cleansing, and because of their high sugar content,

should not be taken without their fiber. There's nothing like a banana,

blueberry and strawberry smoothie for lunch - yummie!

[Guest guest]

the korean machine is the " angel juicer " . i have one.

works great for smaller amounts of juice. like maybe two people.

it and the green machine have helical gears that crush the cell walls

of the vegetables and extract more stuff with little oxidation.

the penalty is more time assembling and disassembling.

the benefit is juice keeps longer and loses less nutrition.

my angel is all stainless steel.

>I have a friend who has lived on only a liquid diet the last 6 years. He

>says the best juicer is the green machine or some such name out of Korea. He

>would not. He has tried them all and did say that the champion sucks.

--

best

william meyer

[Guest guest]

No it is called the green machine or the green power machine or some such

similar name. your machine must be another korean machine.

Flynn

1447 Peachtree St. NE

Suite 414

Atlanta, Ga. 30309

404-881-1700

Tao400@...

Re: juicers

> the korean machine is the " angel juicer " . i have one.

> works great for smaller amounts of juice. like maybe two people.

> it and the green machine have helical gears that crush the cell walls

> of the vegetables and extract more stuff with little oxidation.

> the penalty is more time assembling and disassembling.

> the benefit is juice keeps longer and loses less nutrition.

> my angel is all stainless steel.

>

>

>

> >I have a friend who has lived on only a liquid diet the last 6 years. He

> >says the best juicer is the green machine or some such name out of Korea.

He

> >would not. He has tried them all and did say that the champion sucks.

>

> --

> best

> william meyer

>

>

> OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and

other alternative self-help subjects.

>

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[Guest guest]

How do you get the fiber out of the fruit with the Vita Mix blender?

Dennis

No Free Lunch wrote:

>>i'd like to get some advice from people who do alot of juicing. i

>>have a green life which is great for leafy things, but doesn't work

>>at all for soft fruits

>>

>>i would love to have a continuous juicer that works for everything

>>with a large spout so i can just put a big carrot or a whole apple in

>>it. i had an omega juicer a long time ago and it was ok, but it

>>wasnt continuous and it would get clogged up very easily.

>>

>>there is the new jack lalane one with a large spout or they have

>>these commercial ruby juicers that i can get wholesale on restaurant

>>row here in manhattan.

>>

>>

>

>Hi Art,

>

>For me, there is only one answer... my Green Power for greens and

>veggies, and my VitaMix for fruits.

>

>Fruits are for cleansing, and because of their high sugar content,

>should not be taken without their fiber. There's nothing like a banana,

>blueberry and strawberry smoothie for lunch - yummie!

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Subject: Re: juicers

No it is called the green machine or the green power machine or some such

similar name. your machine must be another korean machine.

Flynn

I have used both the Green Power juicer and the Korean Angel Juicer. The

Angel is more expensive, but it is a better juicer. All stainless steel,

powerful motor. The Green Power is a similar design but plastic parts and less

durable, less powerful than the Angel. The Angel's heavy duty twin mesh rotary

steel cutting blades will juice everything. Put in fresh rosemary and get

rosemary juice! The only downside I've heard about the Angel is that the

company's customer service and support have not been very good. But man, what a

juicer!

best,

Colin Yardley