Re: BAKING SODA FIGHTS BREAST TUMORS (& alkalinizing therapies)

[Guest guest]

Several substances effectively stop cancer growth thru extreme alkalinizing

(levels of alkalinity that can't be achieved thru diet alone). However, such

treatments (e.g., cesium) tend to be dangerous, have severe side effects,

require medical supervision, and aren't endorsed or encouraged by most alt.

cancer practitioners. I wouldn't use them except under unusual circumstances.

My understanding is that baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) works thru different

means. It's not a treatment I would seek.

" Drinking bicarb will NOT cure cancer and neither will giving general IV

bicarb†Carolyn Bormann, N.D., 11/13/09

“sodium bicarbonate [isn’t] that useful as cancer [therapy]†Gammill 5/08

" Bicarb has its uses. It can be great for alkalinizing the urine…prevent

metastasis. On the other hand it will inhibit the uptake of any cancer agents

that are weakly acidic " Gammill, 11/4/09

" some evidence that bicarb can reduce metastasis...because in some instances it

can help neutralize the lactate acidity in the milieu of the tumor; but this has

nothing to do with the pH inside the cancer cells, nor the high amount of

unwanted sodium that is often found in cancer cells; nor in any increase of

cancer cell death by any known mechanism when used at physiologically attainable

concentrations; nor why it would work better than any other easily available

cation bicarbonate or carbonate or hydroxide such as KHCO3 or K2CO3 or NH4OH;

nor how it could throw off any of the hundreds of other pH sensitive enzymes in

the body. Those chemotherapies that depend on ion trapping (such as

mitoxantrone) baking soda can reduce the uptake of the chemo. By neutralizing

the lactate with baking soda three times as much mitoxantrone is needed to

attain the same intracellular levels – in other words you greatly increase the

toxicity to the rest of the body....people...have recommended...maple syrup with

sodium bicarbonate. Maple sugar...channelled into the cancer's glycolytic

pathway,

lactate rather than pyruvate is produced...would hopefully reduce that

iatrogenically speeded up metastasis....bicarb does not increase the pH of the

cancer cell -- only the environment of some tumors...The single test they did

gave mixed results with different cancer models " Gammill, 11/09

I've heard consistently negative things about Simoncini.

Leonard

[Guest guest]

Thank you Leonard! You always have great and helpful information.

In a message dated 4/12/2012 1:50:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, leonardleonard1@... writes:

Several substances effectively stop cancer growth thru extreme alkalinizing (levels of alkalinity that can't be achieved thru diet alone). However, such treatments (e.g., cesium) tend to be dangerous, have severe side effects, require medical supervision, and aren't endorsed or encouraged by most alt. cancer practitioners. I wouldn't use them except under unusual circumstances.My understanding is that baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) works thru different means. It's not a treatment I would seek."Drinking bicarb will NOT cure cancer and neither will giving general IV bicarb†Carolyn Bormann, N.D., 11/13/09“sodium bicarbonate [isn’t] that useful as cancer [therapy]†Gammill 5/08"Bicarb has its uses. It can be great for alkalinizing the urine…prevent metastasis. On the other hand it will inhibit the uptake of any cancer agents that are weakly acidic" Gammill, 11/4/09"some evidence that bicarb can reduce metastasis...because in some instances it can help neutralize the lactate acidity in the milieu of the tumor; but this has nothing to do with the pH inside the cancer cells, nor the high amount of unwanted sodium that is often found in cancer cells; nor in any increase of cancer cell death by any known mechanism when used at physiologically attainable concentrations; nor why it would work better than any other easily available cation bicarbonate or carbonate or hydroxide such as KHCO3 or K2CO3 or NH4OH; nor how it could throw off any of the hundreds of other pH sensitive enzymes in the body. Those chemotherapies that depend on ion trapping (such as mitoxantrone) baking soda can reduce the uptake of the chemo. By neutralizing the lactate with baking soda three times as much mitoxantrone is needed to attain the same intracellular levels – in other words you greatly increase the toxicity to the rest of the body....people...have recommended...maple syrup with sodium bicarbonate. Maple sugar...channelled into the cancer's glycolytic pathway,lactate rather than pyruvate is produced...would hopefully reduce that iatrogenically speeded up metastasis....bicarb does not increase the pH of the cancer cell -- only the environment of some tumors...The single test they did gave mixed results with different cancer models " Gammill, 11/09I've heard consistently negative things about Simoncini.Leonard

[Guest guest]

Leonard, how in your opinion does cesium therapy tend to be either dangerous or

have severe side effects? Maybe it's timely to address and perhaps alleviate

some of the fears of cesium chloride therapy if they are in fact common. I've

seen it work, I suggest people look at it, and given its safety I'd use it

myself, so certainly in my due diligence I will consider valid cautions and

perhaps pass them along as well. Haven't seen any so far so it's over to you.

Shall we start a new thread for it?

all good,

Duncan

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> Several substances effectively stop cancer growth thru extreme alkalinizing

(levels of alkalinity that can't be achieved thru diet alone). However, such

treatments (e.g., cesium) tend to be dangerous, have severe side effects,

require medical supervision, and aren't endorsed or encouraged by most alt.

cancer practitioners. I wouldn't use them except under unusual circumstances.