Re: Dr. Enlander - Resp. Tract Infections

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Did you or can you ask him what we should do about these antibodies? JL

Michele Umbach wrote:

>

> From: Michele Umbach <musharina73@...>

>

> I just remembered something else Dr. Enlander said. He

> asked me if I get frequent upper respiratory

> infections. I told him I DID, before I got sick with

> this CFIDS (I was getting a lot of sinus infections,

> one right after the other), but ever since I got sick,

> I havent. In fact, my husband has even had a bad cold

> two times, since I have had CFIDS, and I never caught

> it!! This is actually very unlike me, because I was

> the type of person who caught everything!!

>

> Anyhow, he explained his theory, that when we " get "

> CFIDS, we DO build up a lot of antibodies, to fight off

> this " infection " , but unfortunately, they are the wrong

> TYPE of antibodies. Therefore, we rarely get any upper

> respiratory tract infections, because we have so many

> antibodies built up.

>

> Just thought Id let you all know ------ Michele U.

> _________________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I have chronic severe infections, so maybe I don't have CFIDS?????

Confused and fed up!,

Christie

tab@...

At 06:52 PM 3/31/99 +0900, you wrote:

>From: ne Kieffer <theocean@...>

>

>Did you or can you ask him what we should do about these antibodies? JL

>

>Michele Umbach wrote:

>>

>> From: Michele Umbach <musharina73@...>

>>

>> I just remembered something else Dr. Enlander said. He

>> asked me if I get frequent upper respiratory

>> infections. I told him I DID, before I got sick with

>> this CFIDS (I was getting a lot of sinus infections,

>> one right after the other), but ever since I got sick,

>> I havent. In fact, my husband has even had a bad cold

>> two times, since I have had CFIDS, and I never caught

>> it!! This is actually very unlike me, because I was

>> the type of person who caught everything!!

>>

>> Anyhow, he explained his theory, that when we " get "

>> CFIDS, we DO build up a lot of antibodies, to fight off

>> this " infection " , but unfortunately, they are the wrong

>> TYPE of antibodies. Therefore, we rarely get any upper

>> respiratory tract infections, because we have so many

>> antibodies built up.

>>

>> Just thought Id let you all know ------ Michele U.

>> _________________________________________________________

>>

[Guest guest]

He just said that our immune systems are " screwed up "

(cant think of a " nice " way to put that now -- too

tired). I will ask him if there is anything that can

be done, but I dont think so.

- Michele

--- ne Kieffer <theocean@...> wrote:

> From: ne Kieffer <theocean@...>

>

> Did you or can you ask him what we should do about

> these antibodies? JL

>

> Michele Umbach wrote:

> >

> > From: Michele Umbach <musharina73@...>

> >

> > I just remembered something else Dr. Enlander

said.

> He

> > asked me if I get frequent upper respiratory

> > infections. I told him I DID, before I got sick

> with

> > this CFIDS (I was getting a lot of sinus

> infections,

> > one right after the other), but ever since I got

> sick,

> > I havent. In fact, my husband has even had a bad

> cold

> > two times, since I have had CFIDS, and I never

> caught

> > it!! This is actually very unlike me, because I

> was

> > the type of person who caught everything!!

> >

> > Anyhow, he explained his theory, that when we

" get "

> > CFIDS, we DO build up a lot of antibodies, to

fight

> off

> > this " infection " , but unfortunately, they are the

> wrong

> > TYPE of antibodies. Therefore, we rarely get any

> upper

> > respiratory tract infections, because we have so

> many

> > antibodies built up.

> >

> > Just thought Id let you all know ------ Michele U.

> >

>

_________________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

Did he recommend a way of dealing with this???

Re: Dr. Enlander - Resp. Tract Infections

From: ne Kieffer <theocean@...>

Did you or can you ask him what we should do about these antibodies? JL

Michele Umbach wrote:

>

> From: Michele Umbach <musharina73@...>

>

> I just remembered something else Dr. Enlander said. He

> asked me if I get frequent upper respiratory

> infections. I told him I DID, before I got sick with

> this CFIDS (I was getting a lot of sinus infections,

> one right after the other), but ever since I got sick,

> I havent. In fact, my husband has even had a bad cold

> two times, since I have had CFIDS, and I never caught

> it!! This is actually very unlike me, because I was

> the type of person who caught everything!!

>

> Anyhow, he explained his theory, that when we " get "

> CFIDS, we DO build up a lot of antibodies, to fight off

> this " infection " , but unfortunately, they are the wrong

> TYPE of antibodies. Therefore, we rarely get any upper

> respiratory tract infections, because we have so many

> antibodies built up.

>

> Just thought Id let you all know ------ Michele U.

> _________________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Christie,

The confusion I truly understand, we have all experienced that. Don't give

up, one thing about CFIDS is that there seems to be no particular set of

rules as to symptoms, some get colds and flu, others never catch cold or

flu, but get nailed by bacterial infections, some seem to get both, there

truly is not answer yet, so hang in there and hopefully soon we will have

answers about all the different subsets of CFIDS and what treatment is best

for the set of symptoms you have.

Trudy

Re: Dr. Enlander - Resp. Tract Infections

> From: " C.Tab. " <tab@...>

>

>

> Hi,

>

> I have chronic severe infections, so maybe I don't have CFIDS?????

>

> Confused and fed up!,

>

> Christie

> tab@...

>

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> At 06:52 PM 3/31/99 +0900, you wrote:

> >From: ne Kieffer <theocean@...>

> >

> >Did you or can you ask him what we should do about these antibodies? JL

> >

> >Michele Umbach wrote:

> >>

> >> From: Michele Umbach <musharina73@...>

> >>

> >> I just remembered something else Dr. Enlander said. He

> >> asked me if I get frequent upper respiratory

> >> infections. I told him I DID, before I got sick with

> >> this CFIDS (I was getting a lot of sinus infections,

> >> one right after the other), but ever since I got sick,

> >> I havent. In fact, my husband has even had a bad cold

> >> two times, since I have had CFIDS, and I never caught

> >> it!! This is actually very unlike me, because I was

> >> the type of person who caught everything!!

> >>

> >> Anyhow, he explained his theory, that when we " get "

> >> CFIDS, we DO build up a lot of antibodies, to fight off

> >> this " infection " , but unfortunately, they are the wrong

> >> TYPE of antibodies. Therefore, we rarely get any upper

> >> respiratory tract infections, because we have so many

> >> antibodies built up.

> >>

> >> Just thought Id let you all know ------ Michele U.

> >> _________________________________________________________

> >>

[Guest guest]

At 07:24 PM 03/31/1999 -0800, you wrote:

>From: Michele Umbach <musharina73@...>

>

>He just said that our immune systems are " screwed up "

>(cant think of a " nice " way to put that now -- too

>tired). I will ask him if there is anything that can

>be done, but I dont think so. Michele

================

once again, this may be relevant to the th1 / th2 imbalance.

and there are some thoughts, including at keephope 18, for

what may help...

it looks like from reading a bit from amarillo biosciences,

that oral interferon alpha pushes our immune system

more towards th1 again.... so there are things to do.

the big secret of course, is understanding immune system

ourselves, and then getting a doctor to prescribe remedy...

nancy mcfadden

[Guest guest]

I think there are different stages of this illness. I am in the stage where

i get alot of viruses,not bacterial infections....but a few years ago,I had

alot of sinus infections and pneumonias etc etc..As a child I was also ill

alot with infections,but then went through a few years when I never got sick

with what was " going around " ....There must be stages to this illness??.

Re: Dr. Enlander - Resp. Tract Infections

>From: " C.Tab. " <tab@...>

>

>

>Hi,

>

>I have chronic severe infections, so maybe I don't have CFIDS?????

>

>Confused and fed up!,

>

>Christie

>tab@...

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>At 06:52 PM 3/31/99 +0900, you wrote:

>>From: ne Kieffer <theocean@...>

>>

>>Did you or can you ask him what we should do about these antibodies? JL

>>

>>Michele Umbach wrote:

>>>

>>> From: Michele Umbach <musharina73@...>

>>>

>>> I just remembered something else Dr. Enlander said. He

>>> asked me if I get frequent upper respiratory

>>> infections. I told him I DID, before I got sick with

>>> this CFIDS (I was getting a lot of sinus infections,

>>> one right after the other), but ever since I got sick,

>>> I havent. In fact, my husband has even had a bad cold

>>> two times, since I have had CFIDS, and I never caught

>>> it!! This is actually very unlike me, because I was

>>> the type of person who caught everything!!

>>>

>>> Anyhow, he explained his theory, that when we " get "

>>> CFIDS, we DO build up a lot of antibodies, to fight off

>>> this " infection " , but unfortunately, they are the wrong

>>> TYPE of antibodies. Therefore, we rarely get any upper

>>> respiratory tract infections, because we have so many

>>> antibodies built up.

>>>

>>> Just thought Id let you all know ------ Michele U.

>>> _________________________________________________________

>>>