Re: liver detox test GREAT SMOKIES LIVER DETOX TEST :JANE, PLEASE HELP SUZY DOG

[Guest guest]

HI JANE, ALL, ALITTLE BRAIN DEAD THESE DAYS. WILL TRY AND CLARIFY. YOU ARE

CORRECT THE TEST SHOWS HOW YOU DO PHASE 1+2 OF LIVER DETOXIFICATION PROCESS.

I WAS GIVEN THE SUBSTANCES IN NITETIME (ONE NITE ONLY) ... I CAN DO PHASE

ONE.( RENEDR SUBTANCES INTO TOXIC FORM) BUT AM UNABLE TO COMPLETE THE PHASE

2 WHICH WOULD MAKE THE SUBTANCES LESS TOXIC AND READY FOR EXCRETION FORM THE

BODY. THIS WAS SHOWN BY MEASURING THE METABOILIC PRODUCTS COLLECTED IN MY

URINE FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME , I THINK BEFORE AND AFTER THE TEST. THIS

IS ALL ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE.

I HAVE STRONG , PERSONAL,FEELING THAT BY THE TIME CONVENTIONAL

MEDICINCE TESTS : SMAC (SHOWS SGOT, AST: OTHER LIVER ENZYMES)ARE " ELEVATED " ,

THE DAMAGE TO LIVER WILL BE EXTENSIVE AND WE WOULD BE VERY TOXIC AND

EXTREMELY ILL.(I AM NOT AN MD!!!) SEEING AS I ONLY LEARNED " CONVENTIONAL ,

CONSERVATIVE MEDICAL / LAB INTERPETATION " AS A NUTRITIONIST, THIS IS A

CHANGE OF OPINION FOR ME AND SLOWLY EVOLVED OVER THE YEARS I HAVE BEEN ILL.

I WAS WORRIED ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF REACTION I MIGHT HAVE TO ANY OF THE

SUBSTANCES AND THUS. ONLY TOOK ONE HALF THE RECOMMENDED TEST DOSEAGE.

ON OCCASIONS WHEM I AM RELAPSING MY LIVER ENZYMES MAYBE SLIGHTLY ABOVE

NORMAL , MOST MDS DONT THINK IT IS MUCH OF ANYTHING. YOU COULD TAKE TEST FROM

DIFFERNT LABS SAME DAY AND GET DIFFERNET NUMBERS. SO WHAT DOES IT ALL

MEAN?!!!!

I HAVE SEEN TWO HEALTH CARE PEOPLE(ALTERNATIVE) IN THE COURSE OF

BEING ILL THAT BELEIVE IN THE THERORY THAT WE ARE TOXIC, LIVERS NOT

FUNCTIONING PROPERLY AND WE NEED TO GET DETOXIFIED : COULD BE VIA

SUPPLIMENTS, COMMERICAL PREPARATIONS, HERBAL PRODUCTS ETC...

THE PERSON I HAD GONE TO FOR THE LIVER DETOXIFICATION TEST KNEW BEFORE

WE STARTED THAT I WAS GOING TO BE ABNORMAL BECAUSE OF MY EXTREME SENETIVITIES

AND THE TYPE OF REACITONS( ITCHY, RED, PAIN, TEMPERATURES, MINOR+ MAJOR

RELAPSES , HEADACHES , COGNITIVE DYSFUNCTION,ETC.) I WAS GETTING TO MINUTE

AMOUNTS OF SUBSTANCES THAT WERE SUPPOSE TO HELP ME DETOX...(GLUTATHIONE,

CYSTEINE, , ULTRA CLEAR, ULTRA CLEAR PLUS,ETC. THE LAB HAS INTERPETATION OF

WHAT VALUES MEAN AND SPELLED OUT MY PROMBLEMS.( IT WAS YEARS AGO, I MAY HAVE

IT SOMEWHERE BUT NOT GOOD DAY TO SEARCH AND DESTROY MY DESK RIGHT NOW.OR YOU

CAN EVEN CALL GREAT SMOKIES LAB.( MAYBE NORTH CAROLINA?)

DETOX BATHS ARE USING EPSOM SALTS AND HYDROGEN PEROXIDE IN HOT TUB TO

MAKE YOU SWEAT OUT YOUR TOXINS.( WAY EVERYONE GETS RID OF TOXINS BESIDES

NORMAL LIVER-KIDNEY FUNCTION, MIGHT EVEN BE VIA TEARS ALSO?) I WOULD REFER

THE SPECIFICS OF THE DETOX BATH TO THE ESTEEMED SUZY DOG,,, SUSY DOG, MY

MENTOR, YOU KNOW MORE THAN ME, SO HOPE YOU DONT MIND SHARING YOUR VAST

KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERTIZE.I STARTED THE DETOX BATHS IN CONJUNCTION WITH MY

ANTIBIOTRIC THERAPY.(SHARON BRIGGS SITE)

I WORKED WITH THE NUTRIONIST PhD for TWO YEARS AND HE GAVE UP ON ME,(THE

CHALLENGE BECAME A MAJOR FRUSTRATION, PROBALBY SOUNDS FAMILIAR) I HAD

PROMBLEMS WITH EVERYTHING WE TRIED... BUT, A FEW YEARS LATER NOW I AM

TOLERATING ALITTLE MORE.. FOR ME, ACTUALLY ABLE TAKE ONE AMMIO ACID CAPSULES

PER MEAL.( USE TO BE ONE PER MONTH!) I THINK GETTING IV

VITAMIN/MINERALS/GLUTATHIONE FOR A SHORT PERIOD HELPED MY BODY ABSORB AND

UTILIZE WHAT I NEEDED.( PROMBLEMS WITH INSURANCE) BUT, I HAVE SO MUCH MORE

TO GO TO GET A HEALTHY SYSTEM, AS I STILL HAVE TO CAREFULLY WATCH HOW MUCH

PROTEIN ( MEATS, FISH ETC.)I EAT DAILY ( LIMIT FOR ME IS NINE OUNCES)( TO

AVOID SYMSTOMS) ***CAUTION + NOTE *** THIS IS MY OWN PERSONAL SOULTION NOT A

PROFESSIONAL ANSWER AND NOT RECOMMENDED AS YOU NEED AMPLE PROTEIN WITH HAVING

CHRONIC ILLNESS.(THERE IS A TRADE OFF AND PRICE FOR MY " SOLUTION " )I HAVE YET

TO FIND AN MD TO HELP ME WORK THIS OUT OR EVEN EXPLAIN TO ME THE HOWS AND

WHYS.BUT I WILL HANG IN AS ALL OF YOU ARE DOING.

WHOA, LONG POST, SORRY

ELLICE

[Guest guest]

> ON OCCASIONS WHEM I AM RELAPSING MY LIVER ENZYMES MAYBE SLIGHTLY ABOVE

>NORMAL , MOST MDS DONT THINK IT IS MUCH OF ANYTHING. YOU COULD TAKE TEST

FROM

>DIFFERNT LABS SAME DAY AND GET DIFFERNET NUMBERS. SO WHAT DOES IT ALL

>MEAN?!!!!

>

Hi,

This could be serious. I do know that docs will say lab results are

" essentially " normal meaning not quite normal & don't know why. I have

also had docs say that they prefer one lab over another. You probably have

doctored to death like the rest of us, but have you seen a specialist

about this? - A gastro, infectious disease, rheum?

Elevated enzymes mean something and someone needs to tell what. Perhaps

I'm overreacting, but the CFIDS/FMS DX'es seems to be given when no hard

answer is found, and we can have other things wrong in addition.

Just my .ooo2 worth!

Christie

tab@...

At 10:23 PM 4/10/99 EDT, you wrote:

>From: SOMISH@...

>

>HI JANE, ALL, ALITTLE BRAIN DEAD THESE DAYS. WILL TRY AND CLARIFY. YOU ARE

>CORRECT THE TEST SHOWS HOW YOU DO PHASE 1+2 OF LIVER DETOXIFICATION PROCESS.

>I WAS GIVEN THE SUBSTANCES IN NITETIME (ONE NITE ONLY) ... I CAN DO PHASE

>ONE.( RENEDR SUBTANCES INTO TOXIC FORM) BUT AM UNABLE TO COMPLETE THE PHASE

>2 WHICH WOULD MAKE THE SUBTANCES LESS TOXIC AND READY FOR EXCRETION FORM THE

>BODY. THIS WAS SHOWN BY MEASURING THE METABOILIC PRODUCTS COLLECTED IN MY

>URINE FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME , I THINK BEFORE AND AFTER THE TEST. THIS

>IS ALL ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE.

> I HAVE STRONG , PERSONAL,FEELING THAT BY THE TIME CONVENTIONAL

>MEDICINCE TESTS : SMAC (SHOWS SGOT, AST: OTHER LIVER ENZYMES)ARE

" ELEVATED " ,

>THE DAMAGE TO LIVER WILL BE EXTENSIVE AND WE WOULD BE VERY TOXIC AND

>EXTREMELY ILL.(I AM NOT AN MD!!!) SEEING AS I ONLY LEARNED " CONVENTIONAL ,

>CONSERVATIVE MEDICAL / LAB INTERPETATION " AS A NUTRITIONIST, THIS IS A

>CHANGE OF OPINION FOR ME AND SLOWLY EVOLVED OVER THE YEARS I HAVE BEEN ILL.

> I WAS WORRIED ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF REACTION I MIGHT HAVE TO ANY OF THE

>SUBSTANCES AND THUS. ONLY TOOK ONE HALF THE RECOMMENDED TEST DOSEAGE.

> ON OCCASIONS WHEM I AM RELAPSING MY LIVER ENZYMES MAYBE SLIGHTLY ABOVE

>NORMAL , MOST MDS DONT THINK IT IS MUCH OF ANYTHING. YOU COULD TAKE TEST

FROM

>DIFFERNT LABS SAME DAY AND GET DIFFERNET NUMBERS. SO WHAT DOES IT ALL

>MEAN?!!!!

> I HAVE SEEN TWO HEALTH CARE PEOPLE(ALTERNATIVE) IN THE COURSE OF

>BEING ILL THAT BELEIVE IN THE THERORY THAT WE ARE TOXIC, LIVERS NOT

>FUNCTIONING PROPERLY AND WE NEED TO GET DETOXIFIED : COULD BE VIA

>SUPPLIMENTS, COMMERICAL PREPARATIONS, HERBAL PRODUCTS ETC...

> THE PERSON I HAD GONE TO FOR THE LIVER DETOXIFICATION TEST KNEW

BEFORE

>WE STARTED THAT I WAS GOING TO BE ABNORMAL BECAUSE OF MY EXTREME

SENETIVITIES

>AND THE TYPE OF REACITONS( ITCHY, RED, PAIN, TEMPERATURES, MINOR+ MAJOR

>RELAPSES , HEADACHES , COGNITIVE DYSFUNCTION,ETC.) I WAS GETTING TO MINUTE

>AMOUNTS OF SUBSTANCES THAT WERE SUPPOSE TO HELP ME DETOX...(GLUTATHIONE,

>CYSTEINE, , ULTRA CLEAR, ULTRA CLEAR PLUS,ETC. THE LAB HAS INTERPETATION OF

>WHAT VALUES MEAN AND SPELLED OUT MY PROMBLEMS.( IT WAS YEARS AGO, I MAY HAVE

>IT SOMEWHERE BUT NOT GOOD DAY TO SEARCH AND DESTROY MY DESK RIGHT NOW.OR YOU

>CAN EVEN CALL GREAT SMOKIES LAB.( MAYBE NORTH CAROLINA?)

> DETOX BATHS ARE USING EPSOM SALTS AND HYDROGEN PEROXIDE IN HOT TUB

TO

>MAKE YOU SWEAT OUT YOUR TOXINS.( WAY EVERYONE GETS RID OF TOXINS BESIDES

>NORMAL LIVER-KIDNEY FUNCTION, MIGHT EVEN BE VIA TEARS ALSO?) I WOULD REFER

>THE SPECIFICS OF THE DETOX BATH TO THE ESTEEMED SUZY DOG,,, SUSY DOG, MY

>MENTOR, YOU KNOW MORE THAN ME, SO HOPE YOU DONT MIND SHARING YOUR VAST

>KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERTIZE.I STARTED THE DETOX BATHS IN CONJUNCTION WITH MY

>ANTIBIOTRIC THERAPY.(SHARON BRIGGS SITE)

> I WORKED WITH THE NUTRIONIST PhD for TWO YEARS AND HE GAVE UP ON

ME,(THE

>CHALLENGE BECAME A MAJOR FRUSTRATION, PROBALBY SOUNDS FAMILIAR) I HAD

>PROMBLEMS WITH EVERYTHING WE TRIED... BUT, A FEW YEARS LATER NOW I AM

>TOLERATING ALITTLE MORE.. FOR ME, ACTUALLY ABLE TAKE ONE AMMIO ACID CAPSULES

>PER MEAL.( USE TO BE ONE PER MONTH!) I THINK GETTING IV

>VITAMIN/MINERALS/GLUTATHIONE FOR A SHORT PERIOD HELPED MY BODY ABSORB AND

>UTILIZE WHAT I NEEDED.( PROMBLEMS WITH INSURANCE) BUT, I HAVE SO MUCH

MORE

>TO GO TO GET A HEALTHY SYSTEM, AS I STILL HAVE TO CAREFULLY WATCH HOW MUCH

>PROTEIN ( MEATS, FISH ETC.)I EAT DAILY ( LIMIT FOR ME IS NINE OUNCES)( TO

>AVOID SYMSTOMS) ***CAUTION + NOTE *** THIS IS MY OWN PERSONAL SOULTION

NOT A

>PROFESSIONAL ANSWER AND NOT RECOMMENDED AS YOU NEED AMPLE PROTEIN WITH

HAVING

>CHRONIC ILLNESS.(THERE IS A TRADE OFF AND PRICE FOR MY " SOLUTION " )I HAVE

YET

>TO FIND AN MD TO HELP ME WORK THIS OUT OR EVEN EXPLAIN TO ME THE HOWS AND

>WHYS.BUT I WILL HANG IN AS ALL OF YOU ARE DOING.

> WHOA, LONG POST, SORRY

> ELLICE

>

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