Re: Magnesium, CFS, Hypoglycemia, MVP

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I have/had the same problem...I started taking something called

E-Lyte(its electrolytes). It fixed my heart problem(same as yours) in

days. I didn't really do a whole lot for the hypoclycemia but it

helped. I think you can get e-lyte at health food stores...call around

for it or have them order it or something. JL

mailbox77@... wrote:

>

> From: mailbox77@...

>

> Christie -

>

> I just want to say thanks so much for

> the hypglycemia article that you posted about 10

> days ago. It was especially interesting to me

> because I participated in the research study

> mentioned in the article. During the test, when

> my blood sugar dropped to its lowest point, my

> adrenalin skyrocketed. I was diagnosed as

> definitely hypoglycemic.

>

> Although the hypoglycemia diet has always helped

> me somewhat, it doesn't fully control my symptoms.

> The endocrinologist tried me on a few medications

> but they didn't help.

>

> I pressed him for an explanation of an underlying

> cause of my hypoglycemia. I remember he said I

> was " hyperadrenergic " (too much adrenalin). But

> why?? He suggested that there was probably

> something out of kilter with my autonomic nervous

> system. He also diagnosed me as having MVP

> (mitral valve prolapse) and sent me to a

> cardiologist.

>

> That was all way back in the early 1980s.

> Only recently, within the past few weeks, did I

> discover something that might possibly (I'm not

> sure)be an underlying cause of being hypoglycemic,

> " hyperadrenergic, " and having symptomatic MVP

> and some CFS-like symptoms.

>

> A recent issue of the National Forum mentioned

> research by Mildred Seelig, M.D. about symptom

> similarities between CFS and an intracellular

> magnesium deficiency.

>

> I found a lengthy article on this subject, written

> by Seelig, at:

> www.execpc.com/~cc/clmd.html

>

> Blood tests aren't always an accurate gauge of

> intracellular magnesium levels. Seelig mentions

> a non-invasive, sublingual test that's more

> accurate. See the following website:

> www.exatest.com

>

> I recently had this test. Although I've taken

> magnesium supplements for years, up until shortly

> before the test, my intracellular magnesium level

> was so low, it was almost off the chart.

> (All my other mineral levels were

> pretty much normal or, in one case, high.)

>

> At Medline there's an article entitled " Magnesium

> deficiency in the pathogenesis of mitral valve

> prolapse. " It says magnesium deficiency

> " increases circulating catecholamines " (e.g.,

> adrenalin) and predisposes to " dysregulation of

> the immune & autonomic nervous systems. "

>

> My doctor doesn't want me to have magnesium

> injections or IV because he & I are concerned

> that it would lower my BP too much.

>

> When I take oral magnesium, it does definitely

> help my skipped/irregular heartbeats but also

> causes gas discomfort in my chest and a lousy

> " too tired to breathe " kind of feeling. Atenolol

> (a beta blocker) has the same effect.

>

> But when I take " stimulants " or " energizers " (such

> as NADH, bee propolis, Immunocal, or tiny doses of

> ritalin) along with the magnesium, the gas

> discomfort vanishes - but the skipped heartbeats

> go crazy! Even though I've experimented with

> doses & combinations, I can't find a way to

> control the skips & the gas-in-my-chest at the

> same time.

>

> If anyone has any ideas or suggestions, please

> let me know. Sorry this post is so long.

>

> Thanks again for that article, Christie.

>

> - Lynn

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[Guest guest]

hi mailbox, all , aspertamine is not recommended for cfids patients . dont

know if aspartic acid still toxic to our systems. somish

[Guest guest]

Has anyone on this list tried taking

magnesium potassium aspartate? Been

helped by it? Anyone know anything

about this particular form of magnesium

(especially the aspartic acid ingredient)

& why it may be better than ordinary

magnesium?

Also...

Nelly, thanks very much for your input

re medication to help irregular heartbeats.

- Lynn

[Guest guest]

mailbox77@... wrote:

> From: mailbox77@...

>

> Has anyone on this list tried taking

> magnesium potassium aspartate? Been

> helped by it? Anyone know anything

> about this particular form of magnesium

> (especially the aspartic acid ingredient)

> & why it may be better than ordinary

> magnesium?

I have tried it and it didn't help me at all.

Marcia

[Guest guest]

My magnesium deficiency was discovered before cfs was called cfs, even

before " epstein barr. " because I don't wanna use well-known names in the

magnesium research and clinical community without their permission I won't

except to say that through a serious of quite serendipitous events I had

contact with two of the most famous and well-published.

Magnesium was long a central thing in what we thought was at the root of my

symptoms, and I got deeply involved in the mag lit and in being treated in

consult with some of these docs, who were so bright and dedicated.

Many different forms of mag came and went as THE best form. AT this point

it seems that despite some past and even current focus on glycinate and

aspartate (different that aspartame, which is neurotoxic) one of the big

experts now simply recommends Mag Ox which is, I think, the name brand for

a drugstore available magnesium oxide.

I still have a store of magnesium citrate (thorne research), which is much

more expensive. as it runs out I will try mag ox. I also give myself IM

shots about once a week, sometimes more.

Mag chloried also was touted.

Perhaps, I don't know, for not all the mag experts are expert in the

intersection of mag problems and cfs and if that intersection is relevant

to the type of mag you take, but maybe we differ in which mag forms give us

the best cellular and also gut absorption. glycinate did nada for me and

is tres costly. If I can get by on Mag Ox believe me I will.

I just has some kind of a newer test for mag status, considered more

advanced than red blood cell mag levels. I think it is called spectra

cell, where they take a swab and get a scraping from under your tongue,

prepare a slide, and that's it. I didn't even pay attention to which lab.

In california. Maybe Intracellular something. I'll be curious at the

results.

Personally, I think mag depletion is either a co-pathology in cfs or that

the hpa axis problems which I think makes our bodies handle stress very

poorly drains our cells of mag.

but this is based on thinking about this issue for a long time. I am no

basic scientist or researcher.

Judith

At 06:36 PM 5/18/99 -0000, you wrote:

>From: mailbox77@...

>

>Has anyone on this list tried taking

>magnesium potassium aspartate? Been

>helped by it? Anyone know anything

>about this particular form of magnesium

>(especially the aspartic acid ingredient)

> & why it may be better than ordinary

>magnesium?

>

>Also...

>Nelly, thanks very much for your input

>re medication to help irregular heartbeats.

>

>- Lynn

>

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