Guest guest Posted September 26, 1999 Report Share Posted September 26, 1999 Hi! Who sent info about Vit. P?? We need answer on question below! Does amyone know what it is used for? Thanks, Christie >From: AdAgensee@... > >Hi Christie: Someone on the list sent info about Vitamin P. I got the info >on what it is...but no one really said what symptoms specifically relieved. >Do you know anything about this? xoxoxoxoxoxo Shell > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 1999 Report Share Posted November 28, 1999 its not just you however I try to extract as much as I can and ignore the rest. some folks have really done alot of reseach and seem to grasp it. erik > shari dodd wrote: > > Lately it seems as if I need to be a med student to understand so many > of our posts. Honestly, I do not feel our average ailing CFS/FM > person could understand half of what is being posted. I've been on > this list for quite a long time and at this point I am not > understanding much. Additionally, my brainfog is minimal. > > Is it just me? > > Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 1999 Report Share Posted November 28, 1999 You are very correct about less than 50% of typical CFS patients understanding it. I'm on other lists and this one shines for hard information and discussion -- especially information from Cheney (who I wish would have a complete website for his current thinking/treatments)... One of my ***personal goals*** via my website (http://www.folkarts.com/idef/ ) is to try to extract the best information in a single unified model (I don't view it as a medical model, but a 'folk tale', parable or 'cartoon strip' (which is what I am serious considering adding)) -- being a former teacher (high school, college and university) -- I know that even if the technical details are wrong, if the model is understood then people feel in better control of what is happening to them... I'm planning a major revision (in the next few days) to the " mycoplasma->blood thickening -> oxygen saturation dropping -> Acute Mountain Sickness model " which is mycoplasma-> gut infection -> poor absorbtion (i.e. B12) -> Leaky Gut (allergies and sensistivities) The goal is to 'weave' most of the treatments that works well into this model for two reasons --- makes it easier to understand WHAT a drug may be doing and why... (hence the value of taking it)... and also allows me to research alternatives (typically dietary... for example for blood thinning: http://www.folkarts.com/idef/food_for_blood_thinning.htm[i don't know how well these foods will work (if at all), but there is a logic to it (and logic lead me to aspirin from hemex's work which put me into major remission)....] I'm VERY OPEN to criticism of my site -- especially on the clarity issue for those in 'brain fog', and will gladly revise endlessly to improve it! [i grew up with a severe handicap and have a degree of persistance that orders on obsension...]... Feel FREE to small-email me on something that interests you and I will attempt to 'parablize' it for you (and may add it to my website too!)... Ken (no subject) Lately it seems as if I need to be a med student to understand so many of our posts. Honestly, I do not feel our average ailing CFS/FM person could understand half of what is being posted. I've been on this list for quite a long time and at this point I am not understanding much. Additionally, my brainfog is minimal. Is it just me? Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 1999 Report Share Posted November 28, 1999 At 10:04 AM 11/28/99 -0800, you wrote: > You are very correct about less than 50% of typical CFS patients >understanding it.(SNIP) One of my ***personal goals*** via my website >(http://www.folkarts.com/idef/ ) is to try to extract the best information >in a single unified model (SNIP) being a former teacher (high school, college and university) >-- I know that even if the technical details are wrong, if the model is >understood then people feel in better control of what is happening to >them... > Hi, When you do this, it will be much appreciated, believe me!! Were you in the sciences by any chance?? Christie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 1999 Report Share Posted November 28, 1999 Yes I was: Masters and Bachelor of Science, (started university doing triple honors: Math, Chem, Physic... and then got my first round of CFS....and graduated with a Math major...)... involved in all sorts of enrichment/gifted programs from Grade 9 onwards... Working in software (for THE 'evil empire') for a variety of financial reasons.... Ken Re: (no subject) > From: " C.Tab. " <tab@...> > > Hi, > > When you do this, it will be much appreciated, believe me!! Were you in > the sciences by any chance?? > > Christie > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 1999 Report Share Posted December 12, 1999 Why do you need to encapsulate it ? Why cant you just stir it up in some juice ? (no subject) >From: MCamp10139@... > >In a message dated 12/10/99 10:52:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, >onelist writes: > >> >Email Dave at Moby Dick Society deafwhale@.... His is the cheapest >> >and you can be sure that it doesn't contain any fillers since you get it >in >> >> >bulk form >> >and encapsulate it yourself! >> >> Hi, >> >> I couldn't access this site - said no matches found for this address. >> Has anyway else had this trouble? >> >> Christie >Use the email above. He will respond w/ proper URL. > >>This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2000 Report Share Posted January 26, 2000 I was try to subcribe to the mito site sorry " Dr. Steve " wrote: > From: " Dr. Steve " <moores@...> > > subscribe > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2001 Report Share Posted January 22, 2001 Hi Carol, We think it would be a good idea to get a second medical opinion. Good luck! Mark and > Hi All..Need sone advice. I've been sick since1989. I developed a painful > tongue about 2 weeks ago. The right side and periphery of my tongue hurts and > feels swollen. Today I noticed that there is something different there. It's > a couple of slightly white areas. It doesn't look like candidiasis to me. Can > someone get herpes on their tongue? Does anyone else have this or know what > it is? My ex husband is an oral surgeon and he doesn't know what it is. He > said that people get painful tongues for no reason at all, and it goes away > eventually. Said to try a nonsteroidal antiinflammatory drug for a while.. If > it doesn't work he said I should try cortisone. Even though I know that my > ex husband is one of the top people in his field, this doesn't seem right to > me..Is there some kind of tongue disorder or pathology that we long time ill > people get?? Any advice would be appreciated.. > Carol in LI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2001 Report Share Posted June 10, 2001 Where is she located? (no subject) , Does the ND treat patients with the same symptoms as Cheney's patients? It's just that I have never heard of an ND who has healed any CFS patients, let alone all of them. , the N.D. I was speaking of (I am pretty sure she is an N.D. b/c I found out about her from a NAET site and to my memory--which sucks--I remember seeing N.D. after her name, but it is possible that she is not a real N.D. but then again, what is a " real " N.D. anyway--no matter how you look at it they can't wite prescriptions so what really matters is how much they know and if they can help) knows exactly who Cheney is that is why she commented on his patients being sick. I can't speak for any of her " healed " patients as I haven't spoken to any of them and that is just her word. Only time will tell if her protocol helps this CFS patient. I'm plenty skeptical myself so we'll just have to wait and see. I'm also plenty skeptical of anything else working too so either way I'm skeptical. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2001 Report Share Posted June 10, 2001 Hi : I do not know what ND stands for,could you please tell me? Based on what I have been reading from your post are your or about to start the N.A.E.T.? I have a friend in Dallas, GA who has FMS and she did the Guaifenesin Protocol but after 22 months was not getting many good results. She finally went to a dr. who treats N.A.E.T. and she is doing so much better. She has been trying to get me to get on it, but so far I have not had any luck finding anyone in my area who does this treatment. If anyone on this group has done the N.A.E.T. I would like for you to share with us. I am interested in knowing exactly what you do and how expensive it is. Vickie/GA (no subject) , Does the ND treat patients with the same symptoms as Cheney's patients? It's just that I have never heard of an ND who has healed any CFS patients, let alone all of them. , the N.D. I was speaking of (I am pretty sure she is an N.D. b/c I found out about her from a NAET site and to my memory--which sucks--I remember seeing N.D. after her name, but it is possible that she is not a real N.D. but then again, what is a " real " N.D. anyway--no matter how you look at it they can't wite prescriptions so what really matters is how much they know and if they can help) knows exactly who Cheney is that is why she commented on his patients being sick. I can't speak for any of her " healed " patients as I haven't spoken to any of them and that is just her word. Only time will tell if her protocol helps this CFS patient. I'm plenty skeptical myself so we'll just have to wait and see. I'm also plenty skeptical of anything else working too so either way I'm skeptical. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2001 Report Share Posted June 10, 2001 ND stands for Naturopathic Physician or Doctor of Naturopathy. They attend training similar to Md and DOs and are licensed to practice in some states. If I were not needle-averse, I would try NAET, as my personal physician's husband (an MD)is trained in this technique and has quite good success with it. Here is a link to Georgia practitioners. http://www.naet.com/subscribers/index3.html > Hi : > I do not know what ND stands for,could you please tell me? Based on what I have been reading from your post are your or about to start the N.A.E.T.? I have a friend in Dallas, GA who has FMS and she did the Guaifenesin Protocol but after 22 months was not getting many good results. She finally went to a dr. who treats N.A.E.T. and she is doing so much better. She has been trying to get me to get on it, but so far I have not had any luck finding anyone in my area who does this treatment. If anyone on this group has done the N.A.E.T. I would like for you to share with us. I am interested in knowing exactly what you do and how expensive it is. Vickie/GA > (no subject) > > > , > Does the ND treat patients with the same symptoms as Cheney's patients? > It's just that I have never heard of an ND who has healed any CFS patients, > let alone all of them. > > , the N.D. I was speaking of (I am pretty sure she is an N.D. b/c I > found out about her from a NAET site and to my memory--which sucks--I > remember seeing N.D. after her name, but it is possible that she is not a > real N.D. but then again, what is a " real " N.D. anyway--no matter how you > look at it they can't wite prescriptions so what really matters is how much > they know and if they can help) knows exactly who Cheney is that is why she > commented on his patients being sick. I can't speak for any of her " healed " > patients as I haven't spoken to any of them and that is just her word. Only > time will tell if her protocol helps this CFS patient. I'm plenty skeptical > myself so we'll just have to wait and see. I'm also plenty skeptical of > anything else working too so either way I'm skeptical. > - > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 You have to unsubscribe yourself. Go to the link below and click on 'leave group'. Please do not respond to this email or send anymore requests as the moderators are not able to do it for you. / > I am unable to handle this mail, stop this e-mail. Thanks > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 In your mind what would make on " excellent " ? (no subject) Can anyone tell me the name of an endocrinologist that is considered " excellent. " I like in Louisiana, but would be willing to travel if any of you have had positive experiences........... Thanks for your help. Pam Mc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 YES!!!! There is hope for some of us - this time last year my 'A' got so so bab I could not swallow water or even my own saliva - I had the myotomy and now I can eat most things - (not steaks or tough meat) - I can go to restaurants and be a little social - although I do find eating and trying to keep a conversation going very difficult - but yes I can eat. I do get some heartburn but it is controlable and as for spasms - I have only had about 5 in a whole year. Keep the good spirit up Donna -- (no subject) I read all the postings and can see that some people are at this time gaining some support from reading other peoples stories.Somebody said about being careful about it being "medical advice" and I wholeheartedly agree. As most of us will know what works for one person doesn't necessarily work for another. We need to read, discuss and decide on our future treatment with the medical staff treating us. From my experience I can say how much I disagree with the statement about "A" not getting worse over time. Mine certainly has progressed and I have the manometry results to prove it. We are all different and as we have said before many of us also have to cope with numerous other conditions besides "A" and I wonder whether this might affect the way some of us respond to certain treatments. This is only my thoughts but as I have other diseases that affect muscle function its an interesting one that my Consultants are now looking at. For those of you who are new these statements DO NOT mean that having "A" means you will get lots of other things. Read back through the thousands of postings for previous discussions on that one! I go back into hospital in early July for another dilatation. Hoping it might help even a tiny bit as I fall into the group who lives on fluids all the time. Not a solid bit of food can pass my throat. As I've said before if only I could be in the 'eat anything group'. Has anybody gone from having a very little amount of swallowing function (mine is only about 20% of normal) and no peristalsis in their oesophagus to eating again? Thanks as ever ChrisPlymouth UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2002 Report Share Posted June 14, 2002 Yes, me too! I couldn't even swallow water and lost 8 pounds in about a little less than a week. That's when they scheduled my surgery on a Friday for the following Monday. It all happened so fast at that point...but it was almost 2 years up till that point to be properly diagnosed. Two dialtions that did nothing for me at all, and then suddenly, I just got so bad, couldn't swallow anything. I remember one incident, chewing gum, morning hours, and later on that night, up from my esoph. came some pink bubblicious liquid from the gum. Even that didn't go down. Sugery was shortly after. And now, I can eat almost anything. Raw veggies are hard for me...but I can get them down. There is hope! Really! --- Donna Curtis <dmcurtis@...> wrote: > YES!!!! > > There is hope for some of us - this time last year > my 'A' got so so bab I > could not swallow water or even my own saliva - I > had the myotomy and now I > can eat most things - (not steaks or tough meat) - I > can go to restaurants > and be a little social - although I do find eating > and trying to keep a > conversation going very difficult - but yes I can > eat. I do get some > heartburn but it is controlable and as for spasms - > I have only had about 5 > in a whole year. > > Keep the good spirit up > > Donna > > -- (no subject) > > I read all the postings and can see that some people > are at this time > gaining some support from reading other peoples > stories. > Somebody said about being careful about it being > " medical advice " and I > wholeheartedly agree. As most of us will know what > works for one person > doesn't necessarily work for another. We need to > read, discuss and decide on > our future treatment with the medical staff treating > us. > From my experience I can say how much I disagree > with the statement about " A > not getting worse over time. Mine certainly has > progressed and I have the > manometry results to prove it. We are all different > and as we have said > before many of us also have to cope with numerous > other conditions besides > A " and I wonder whether this might affect the way > some of us respond to > certain treatments. This is only my thoughts but as > I have other diseases > that affect muscle function its an interesting one > that my Consultants are > now looking at. For those of you who are new these > statements DO NOT mean > that having " A " means you will get lots of other > things. Read back through > the thousands of postings for previous discussions > on that one! > > I go back into hospital in early July for another > dilatation. Hoping it > might help even a tiny bit as I fall into the group > who lives on fluids all > the time. Not a solid bit of food can pass my > throat. As I've said before if > only I could be in the 'eat anything group'. Has > anybody gone from having a > very little amount of swallowing function (mine is > only about 20% of normal) > and no peristalsis in their oesophagus to eating > again? > > Thanks as ever > Chris > Plymouth UK > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2002 Report Share Posted June 14, 2002 I am looking for an endocrinologist that others with CFIS or Fibromyalgia have had good experience with and who has experience and an interest in patients with our disease. Thanks for any suggestions. PamMc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2003 Report Share Posted January 25, 2003 Hi Sue I noticed in you e-mail that you know of another chat group relating to achalasia. Do you mind me asking where I can find it because I'm trecking through info in preparation for a decision over surgery. Thanks Regards Lynn (UK) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2003 Report Share Posted March 13, 2003 Also send to MADD at the address shown at beginning of Email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2003 Report Share Posted April 1, 2003 At 10:09 AM 04/01/2003 -0800, you wrote: >I want to know how you got yourself back on track. It is so easy to get caught up in other >peoples crap. This is a good lesson for me, when I sometime let the influences around me to >affect what I know to be truly important. What did you do to get back on track? You are a >good model for those than to succumb to fear. So what did you do? HOw did you do it? >Go Girl! > >Amber Ah, well, its hurtful, but I also have learned that not everyone is going to like me or what I have to say. It just takes a few people to come out in support to help me see the forest for the trees. This issue is more important than a few people who have a flea under their collar. Its not easy sometimes, but call in all your support if you need to - that helps lots. And I keep remembering all the children that have been spared or helped and I look at pcitures that I have on my desk that people have sent to me - and especially I look at Alan & Francine Yurko's picture which is here to. What I suffer is nothing compared to what they are suffering, what other parents and children are suffering. You can't please everyone - if you are you are doing something wrong. I get tons of email and phone calls as I said below every day with tons of need, thanks, sadness & joy and that is what I have to remind myself of. Sometimes it gets overwhelming and sometimes I just want to stop. But how can I or any of us. When I started this there were a handful of people who were aware - those that had written the few books we had, NVIC, and a few brave parents. Then more and more of us saw the light. Sometimes it is just a test of your true committment. Rise to meet the occasion and look at it as character and strength building Thanks, Amber Sheri > > >Sheri Nakken wrote: > >> I am the listowner and moderator and here is the purpose of the list (and >> have been for 4 years now) >> >> <<<<<This list is for parents and others who are looking at the issue of >> vaccinations and the dangers that are becoming >> more and more apparant. This list is for all who are looking at making a >> decision to not vaccinate, who >> vaccinate selectively, who have made a choice not to vaccinate their >> children at all or who have stopped >> vaccinating their children after starting. This list is for support and to >> share information. I am the moderator & >> I post medical journal articles and other vaccine information & news. And >> the participants all post information >> and questions. This list does produce a HIGH volume of mail but lots of >> great information. If you wish to only get the >> vaccine articles please join the list " VaccineInfo " here at a groups >> instead of this one. >>>> >> >> is afraid of SARS & she is perfectly free to be afraid of it if >> she wants. That is not why she is moderated. It was what she further >> progressed to. She is misunderstanding people & lashing out accusing them >> of wanting doctors dead. Stuff like that doesn't belong on this list - if >> you have a problem with a person, you email them privately. I tried >> several times to show her the email and the reality of what had been said, >> but she couldn't see it. So I put her on moderate. >> >> My loyalty is to the 'list' and all those here for vaccine dangers info >> >> I will not have her interfere with the purpose of the list - to help people >> get information on the dangers of vaccines and support for the choices the >> make to refuse them >> >> You can like that or not >> And the honorable way to deal with anything that you don't like that I do, >> is to write to me directly and not take it to a list. >> >> If you don't understand what I and so many others do for this list, and >> helping you to keep your children free from the dangers of vaccines or get >> help after they are injured, then that is how it is. >> >> I share info on homeopathy as I KNOW that that is one of the few ways to >> get your child back - to reverse vaccine damage - I know of nothing else >> that has consistent results (and even homeopathy depends on the finding the >> right remedy and the right homeopath). I share info so you can learn to >> help yourselves and not be damaged further. I share info so you can take >> your own health and that of your children's into your own hands and not >> have to accept other things that you might not want - antibiotics, >> steroids, etc, as once you see the dangers of vaccines you start to see the >> other dangers that allopathy has to offer. I can only share what I know >> and having been in allopathy and in homeopathy I am able to give a >> perspective that most people don't have. >> >> And the classes were designed because people had so many questions and I >> was answering hte same ones over an over. The classes now help to finance >> the many many hours I day I spend on the list sharing info, answering >> questions, answering emails that come in the dozens everyday from people >> who read my website, talking to people on the phone who have damaged or >> dead children (yes they call me), talking to people who have autistic kids >> and don't know where to turn (yes they call me), talking to people on the >> phone and email who have gone to a homeopath and it is disaster as it is >> not a good homeopath (yes they call me, even in the UK), returning phone >> calls from UK to US from people who leave messages on my US voicemail. I >> also spend much time on other webboards and writing letters to papers and >> congresspeople >> >> You are welcome to start your own list. >> >> We have worked together a lot in the 4 or so years I've been moderator for >> the list (and by the way just disappeared leaving me holding the >> list). We (some of us anyway) made an intensive effort to fight the >> Homeland Security Act and Eli Lilly rider and made a huge difference and >> then as a group along with others made a huge difference in repealing it. >> We are constantly writing letters (some of us anyway) to the media and >> congresspeople to help make a difference.) And before that there was the >> ER television show epidsode that Sandy spearheaded and we all wrote about. >> >> The work we have to do on the grand political scale AND individually which >> each person is greater than a few people's disgruntled feelings. >> >> We have had problems with spies the last few years that have caused huge >> problems if you remember. And again in the last few weeks. >> >> I work to keep this a safe place for all of you. And sometimes that means >> moderating someone. >> >> I think emotions are running high for many reasons including war, fear of >> disease, and that all should sit back and take a deep breath. >> If you aren't happy here, go to another list. There are many out there. >> The only one that is at all active is avn in Australia. By >> all means you should be where you are happy. And this is the only list >> where I try and screen the members. The other lists don't. >> >> This is the largest list that there is for vaccine dangers and has been for >> the last 4 years - at one point having about 1000 members (until the spies >> came in) - of course those are active and inactive members. And people >> come and go for a variety of reasons. And the topics go OT quite >> frequently which is always a challenge. >> >> As far as vaccines go, I will always speak my truth. If you want to hear >> me say its OK to selectively vaccinate - you will be waiting until I'm >> dead. I will continue to speak the truth and if you don't like it or it >> isn't your truth, then so be it. ALL vaccines are dangerous. >> >> Meanwhile, every day I get many requests to be on the list and have put >> them on hold for a few weeks now due to problems of doctors and other spies >> trying to get on the list to use what we say against us (and this includes >> Ratbags who posted pictures of one of our list members children on his >> website and accused her of child abuse) So lots goes on that you may not >> know about. >> >> So if you have constructive comments or complaints about me, they should be >> sent to me. >> Otherwise - we have important work to do - all of us. I'd encourage you to >> ask yourself what more you can do to be productive here and help those that >> are new to vaccine dangers and what else you can do outside in the real world. >> >> Its an honor to be able to help in this effort (as much as it hurts >> sometimes). I would never want to go unconscious again (but sometimes am >> tempted). We are living in very trying times but I have seen consciousness >> and awareness of this issue increase exponentially. More and more people >> are aware and all of that is due to all of our efforts. If it weren't for >> all of us, nothing would ever see the light of day or hit a newspaper or TV >> program. >> >> Sheri >> moderator/listowner >> -------------------------------------------------------- >> Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath >> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK >> $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account >> vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 >> (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail >> Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm >> Homeopathy course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm >> ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL >> OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE >> DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. >> >> ****** >> " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. >> Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy >> knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information >> and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2003 Report Share Posted October 9, 2003 In a message dated 10/9/2003 3:02:41 PM Central Standard Time, drnovlamas@... writes: > I have enjoyed being part of this group, but my email > mailbox...largely due to this group... has been just overflowing...Please, > any way to > receive a weekly summation, or something akin to this? Sir, Might want to check out the digest version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2003 Report Share Posted October 10, 2003 Or view posts via the website. No email at all! > Sir, > > Might want to check out the digest version > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2004 Report Share Posted April 3, 2004 -- (no subject) Dear Lord: Every single evening As I'm lying here in bed This tiny little prayer Keeps running through my head. God bless all my family Wherever they may be, Keep them warm and safe from harm For they're so close to me. And God, there is one more thing I wish that you could do. Hope you don't mind me asking, Bless my computer too. Now I know that it's not normal To bless a mother board, But listen just a second While I explain to you 'My Lord'. You see, that little metal box Holds more than odds & ends Inside those small compartments Rest so many of my FRIENDS. I know so much about them By the kindness that they give And this little scrap of metal Takes me in to where they live. By faith is how I know them Much the same as you We share in what life brings us And from that our friendship grew. Please, take an extra minute From your duties up above To bless those in my address book That's filled with so much love! Wherever else this prayer may reach To each and every friend, bless each e-mail Inbox And the person who hits Send. When you update your heavenly list On your own CD-ROM Remember each who've said this prayer Sent up to God.Com. Amen. Please send this poem to all of your on-line friends to show how much you care! Also, make sure you send it back to whomever sent it to you because they obviously care about you! ____________________________________________________ IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 thanks for sharing this!! Sending positive thoughts and prayers. (no subject) Alan Yurko Evidentiary Hearing: Day 2 “Objection†ORLANDO, Fla.—Just like day one, day two of Alan Yurko’s evidentiary hearing began a little shaky and ended on a positive note. Obviously reeling from the courtroom beating the prosecution received on day one, Robyn Wilkinson took over from Lerner to cross examine Dr. Horace Gardner. She came out of the blocks angry, vindictive and used her estimated prowess as an attorney to confuse and badger Dr. Gardner. The tactic was effective as the previous day ’s excellent testimony from the Colorado ophthalmologist appeared to have been neutralized. Yurko supporters and counsel noted the tactical change and intuited the desperation that must have driven the prosecutors to implement it. The second witness was Dr. Jane Orient who is currently heads the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons and has impeccable credentials as an internal medicine specialist and diagnostician. She has authored a medical text book that is in its third edition, has written 50 peer-reviewed articles for 12 medical journals, has testified in courts, legislatures and congress, teaches continuing education classes to medical professionals and sits on the boards of medical associations. Fitzgibbons asked the court to accept Dr. Orient’s testimony as an expert diagnostician and internal medicine specialist. Prosecutors deposed Dr. Orient last June and knew that Dr. Orient would wreak havoc on their “case†against Yurko. After requesting to “voir dire†Dr. Orient, Wilkinson resumed her rude and confrontive demeanor to in a transparent effort to discredit Dr. Orient as an expert witness. Dr. Orient handled herself very well and was accepted as an expert diagnostician and internist. While being questioned by Fitzgibbons, Dr. Orient, with composed confidence, ran the full gamut of what happened, what should have happened, and what did not happen the day Baby Alan died. As far as Dr. Orient was concerned, Yurko had rushed his critically sick child to the hospital which then pumped the infant full of drugs and never considered anything other than SBS as the cause of his multiple health issues and eventual death. She explained that twice the hospital declared brain death and that in neither instance did the staff follow established protocols for making such a declaration. “They kept circulation going long enough to preserve the baby’s organs for harvest,†Dr. Orient stated. Upon cross examination, Wilkinson launched into Dr. Orient in such a rude and disrespectful manner even the judge seemed surprised and embarrassed. Though for a brief time Dr. Orient did seem a little irritated, but she regained her composure and turned the tables on Wilkinson by simply responding as a professional fully in control of her emotions and confident in her expertise. For 45 minutes Wilkinson worked herself into a frustrated frenzy while Dr. Orient calmly answered questions. Much more material beneficial to Yurko’s case got onto the record because of the prosecution’s frantic attempt to discredit this witness. Toward the end of the ordeal, Dr. Orient was given the opportunity to state, “People believe and there is a theory, but there is no evidence of SBS.†“Oh my God,†a visibly shaken and angry Wilkinson muttered as she turned away from the lectern and sat down to prepare for the next witness. And then it got worse for the prosecution. Forensic Pathologist J. took the stand. Dr. is the man who administrated the disciplinary action against his colleague Chief Medical Examiner Shashi Gore for the numerous inconsistencies in the autopsy report that served to send Yurko to prison for life without parole for shaking his baby to death. Lerner continually objected while Fitzgibbons was questioning as to the specifics of the errors in Dr. Gore’s thoroughly discredited report. His objections were based on the fact that the material had already been heard in Gore ’s Feb. 17, 2004 trial and was, therefore, not germane to the proceedings. He was repeatedly overruled and was not scoring any points with Judge Lawson in the process. would not admit that, had Gore’s autopsy report been accurate, Yurko would not have been convicted. He did state, however, that, to his knowledge this was the first time a chief medical examiner had been so severely disciplined under such circumstances. Dr. said that Dr. Gore would have been removed if he had not been so close to retirement. After his February “conviction,†Gore was forced to conduct his administrative affairs only and not to touch another body until he retired (presumably with full benefits). Under cross examination, Lerner kept referring to the gross errors on the report—like tissue samples from a heart that had already been harvested and covering up the irresponsible doses of heparin administered to Baby Alan before he died—as “typographical errors.†The badger and confuse game plan continued with Dr. Harold Buttram whose calm, noble, knowledgeable presence was not to be disrupted by the flailing prosecutors. Dr. Buttram has been operating a family medicine practice for 42 years and was accepted with no objection as an expert in environmental medicine. His passion is the study of the effect of toxic chemicals on the human body. His motivation is love for children and his concern that he has been observing them as they have gotten sicker and sicker as the years have gone by. In the case of Baby Alan, who was born a fragile premature baby with multiple health issues, he was given six vaccines when he was only 2 ½ weeks past gestation. According to calculations, those injections delivered into Baby Alan’s already struggling body 100 times the EPA safe-allowable limit of mercury for one day. Dr. Buttram stated that he had spent about 1,000 hours on this case and had spent six months preparing for this hearing. Amid the expected objections and badgering by Lerner, who had taken over the cross examination duties because Wilkinson had apparently lost her composure, Dr. Buttram was able to tell the entire story of what most likely happened during the short, but important life of Baby Alan (I am not sure why, but I just started sobbing with that thought). “It was vaccines that triggered the chain of events that led to his [baby Alan ’s] death,†said Dr. Buttram, who added, “I would never vaccinate a preemie and would never give six vaccines at once and would always administer them with vitamin C and vitamin A.†Lerner then attempted to discredit this marvelous, compassionate man for his religious beliefs. The irony is too much to not mention: This prosecutor whose tunnel vision is compelling him to use any pathetic trick he can to keep an innocent man in prison for the rest of his life assaulting the spirituality of a deeply spiritual Christian man who has lived his entire life for the purpose keeping people free, alive and healthy. The last witness of the day was Dr. Yazbak. It is getting late so I will pick up with this witness tomorrow as he will be back on the stand first thing. Let me just leave you with today’s cliff hanger: The carnage continues and Dr. Yazbak hit on something that has caused the most ardent string of objections from the prosecution to date. The raw nerve has been hit. Until tomorrow, Reporting from Orlando Florida, Don Harkins for the Yurko Project Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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