overweight

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Jane,

We also have a problem with what our family sees as an overweight

child. I am a big believer in the family gene pool though. Since I

have a 9 yr old that is built like my brother and is skinny and tall

but my 7 yr old is chunky. She is also ADHD which I have found is

not a preventitive to being overwieght. She can't sit still but

still has added the pounds. But my husband's family were all like

this as children, short and chunky, until they reached their older

teen years. It may not be anything but the genes working against

her. Just my 2 cents and something to ponder over if the doctor is

not overly concerned about her wieght.

Aviv

[Guest guest]

My NT 5 yr old gets a little chunky at times, usually right before a

growth spurt, then she slims down. I'm fat and so is her father, so

I'm very sensitive to trying to keep the girls healthy as I battle it

myself. I find that getting the kids out more often helps, which can

be very difficult this time of the year. In my neck of the woods

there is a gymnastics center that is geared toward special needs'

kids, as well as some ballet studios. I also get the girls out on

bikes and we go up and down our neighborhood several times. It seems

to help with Allie's proprioceptive and vestibular issues, as well as

shaking up her routine, like changing the number of times we go down

the street.

I just joined a health club a few weeks ago and had very difficult

time using some equip, like the nordic track-types, and weight

machines that use both sides of my body at once. Today I noticed how

much easier it is for me to use it and thought about how autistics

with proprioceptive issues must feel. Since so many autistics

struggle with low muscle tone, perhaps some sort of fitness program

would benefit. Allie's OT has told me over and over to get her moving

as much as possible to help her development.

HTH,

Debi

[Guest guest]

I think you're completely right Francoise. I

lived in Europe for 11 years and only knew one

truly obese European (she was English).

People over there still walk alot and it seems,

shop differently. Shopping more from local

markets.

Also, when I lived in Germany, I noticed that

even the processed foods didn't seem to have

preservatives.

When traveling, I could usually pick the

Americans out in a crowd. They were usually

overweight, and always seemed to be wearing white

athletic shoes!

Kim

--- etic <etic38@...> wrote:

> Hi everybody,

>

> <<Genetics and habits play a role, no

> question..

>

> Genetics, I don't know, but habits, YES for

> sure.

> I remember spending a year in Northern England

> in the 80es (hard times for the North, lots of

> poverty under Mrs. Thatcher), and also

> travelling to the US a couple of time.

> Coming from France, I was really amazed to

> realise how many people in Northern England and

> especially in the US were very very

> overweighted, sometimes huge.

>

> Northern people in England were basically poor,

> but they used to buy tons of sweet and greasy

> stuff from the supermarket and eat tons of fish

> and chips at any time of the day.

> As far as the US was concerned, I was amazed by

> the number of those " all you can eat " places,

> those huge breakfasts you can buy everywhere,

> all those people walking down the streets at

> any time of the day with a coke, an icecream,

> junk food. Looking at people in the streets, I

> was sometimes wondering whether being

> overweighted wasn't the norm.

>

> In France and everywhere in Europe we are now

> getting worried about kids getting overweighted

> too, but really, our " overweighted " kids would

> obviously just seem a bit plump to you (as

> yet...)

> Our food is probably as much full of pesticides

> etc. as yours, but basically I think we are

> consuming less food and use more plain food and

> less processed food that you do.

>

> I think the problem you've got in the US is

> that you are surrounded by quantity: cars are

> big, icecreams are big, shops are big, " special

> offers " are big, the number of your TV chains

> is big, even your cooling systems in

> supermarkets are not simply cooling, they are

> freezing :-)

> So basically, I have got the feeling that your

> overweight problem is probably more a general

> " cultural " problem than a problem of genetics

> or individual habits.

>

> Well, I just hope I did not sound agressive or

> whatever, it wasn't my intention at all...

> please don't shoot at me... lol

>

> Françoise

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[Guest guest]

Shoot at you?

Nah.

Would you like to be the queeen?

Overweight

Hi everybody,

<<Genetics and habits play a role, no question..

Genetics, I don't know, but habits, YES for sure.

I remember spending a year in Northern England in the 80es (hard times for the North, lots of poverty under Mrs. Thatcher), and also travelling to the US a couple of time.

Coming from France, I was really amazed to realise how many people in Northern England and especially in the US were very very overweighted, sometimes huge.

Northern people in England were basically poor, but they used to buy tons of sweet and greasy stuff from the supermarket and eat tons of fish and chips at any time of the day.

As far as the US was concerned, I was amazed by the number of those "all you can eat" places, those huge breakfasts you can buy everywhere, all those people walking down the streets at any time of the day with a coke, an icecream, junk food. Looking at people in the streets, I was sometimes wondering whether being overweighted wasn't the norm.

In France and everywhere in Europe we are now getting worried about kids getting overweighted too, but really, our "overweighted" kids would obviously just seem a bit plump to you (as yet...)

Our food is probably as much full of pesticides etc. as yours, but basically I think we are consuming less food and use more plain food and less processed food that you do.

I think the problem you've got in the US is that you are surrounded by quantity: cars are big, icecreams are big, shops are big, "special offers" are big, the number of your TV chains is big, even your cooling systems in supermarkets are not simply cooling, they are freezing :-)

So basically, I have got the feeling that your overweight problem is probably more a general "cultural" problem than a problem of genetics or individual habits.

Well, I just hope I did not sound agressive or whatever, it wasn't my intention at all... please don't shoot at me... lol

Françoise

[Guest guest]

I'm jealous of the Europeans, and think they are maybe not as obese, because in Europe they do not allow genetically modified food - unless it's been labeled as such. Thus very little is consumed there. In the US, we consume quite a bit. Approximately 60-70% of our processed food contains these altered ingredients. The only way you know you are NOT consuming genetically altered food is to buy organic. There are a couple of books by that talk about genetically modified food and it's dangerous effects upon our health. Think about it - NutraSweet, bovine growth hormone, high fructose corn syrup (lots of the corn in GM), foods with convential soy, etc., etc. They are horrible for us!etic <etic38@...> wrote: Hi everybody, <<Genetics and habits play a role, no question.. Genetics, I don't know, but habits, YES for sure. I remember spending a year in Northern England in the 80es (hard times for the North, lots of poverty under Mrs. Thatcher), and also travelling to the US a couple of time. Coming from France, I was really amazed to realise how many people in Northern England

and especially in the US were very very overweighted, sometimes huge. Northern people in England were basically poor, but they used to buy tons of sweet and greasy stuff from the supermarket and eat tons of fish and chips at any time of the day. As far as the US was concerned, I was amazed by the number of those "all you can eat" places, those huge breakfasts you can buy everywhere, all those people walking down the streets at any time of the day with a coke, an icecream, junk food. Looking at people in the streets, I was sometimes wondering whether being overweighted wasn't the norm. In France and everywhere in Europe we are now getting worried about kids getting overweighted too, but really, our "overweighted" kids

would obviously just seem a bit plump to you (as yet...) Our food is probably as much full of pesticides etc. as yours, but basically I think we are consuming less food and use more plain food and less processed food that you do. I think the problem you've got in the US is that you are surrounded by quantity: cars are big, icecreams are big, shops are big, "special offers" are big, the number of your TV chains is big, even your cooling systems in supermarkets are not simply cooling, they are freezing :-) So basically, I have got the feeling that your overweight problem is probably more a general "cultural" problem than a problem of genetics or individual habits. Well, I just hope I did not sound agressive or whatever, it wasn't my intention at all... please don't shoot at me... lol Françoise

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Do any of you are overweight,, right now  I have full on Achalasia I have this

since I was 22 oficially, so for 14 years I have the A, but I give birth to

healthy kids in the last 8 years both kids weight nice

olders 8.3 and youngest 7.13 two weeks early

 

I m overweight 80 lbs overweight ,, and the DR suggest to me to take out my E,

but I think something have to be working in a weird way ,, so why take out ,

 

any comments

 

Frances Ft WA

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In a message dated 9/14/2010 12:24:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

cspoto@... writes:

According to Dr. L he is seeing more and more obese people with achalasia.

Interesting huh?

I don't think this is unusual at all. Many on this board are overweight,

myself included. I think, at least mine, was due to the fact that the food

dose not reach the stomach as soon as it should, therefore we don't feel

full. We continue to eat trying to satisfy that full feeling therefore

overeating. The food does eventually go down for many of us therefore we have

eaten too much and gain weight.

There is no proof of this to my knowledge but just my own feeling.

Maggie