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Hi my son (aged 32) is very near to reaching end stage achalasia. He

is scared to death and at present is in denial and whilst surgeons in

NZ want to operate in February 09 he is finding every reason not to

have it. Have trawled the net to find out more about the meaning and

treatment for end stage but the language is far to technical. Can

anyone give me in plain english what to expect? Thank you for your

time.

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So sorry to hear that your son has reached end stage Achalasia. I am already

there. Show him this message. Urge him to have surgery because without it he

will starve to death. Frightening I know but I faced it and althogh I was as in

denial as your son had to have surger to rescue, yes rescue my life. I only

weighed 88lbs before surgery! I looked like something from a wartime

concentration camp. That's how bad I was and had to have my ectomy to save my

life. Now the consequenses for most end stage Achalasian is (to be brutal)

death. Ask your son this. How much does he value family life? Or his own!!

Implore himto have the surgery. The consequenses of delaying my surgery until

almost to late is that I am now very vulnerable to MRSA (which I have at

present), E-coli (which affected my kidneys and liver). I now have to have a

J-Tube feed every night for the rest of my life (this was made plain to me by

surgeons that I know). But oh I feel for your son. He

must be frightened. If he wishes to talk by e-mail please pass on the following

e-mail address christine@... I will be there to answer

as many questions about what to expect. That is if he needs to talk to someone

who has gone through what he is now going through. Good luck. I live in the UK

by the way and check my e-mails 3 times a day so can always chat with your son.

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From: phil.brown55 <phil.brown55@...>

achalasia

Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2008 9:45:43 AM

Subject: end stage achalasia

Hi my son (aged 32) is very near to reaching end stage achalasia. He

is scared to death and at present is in denial and whilst surgeons in

NZ want to operate in February 09 he is finding every reason not to

have it. Have trawled the net to find out more about the meaning and

treatment for end stage but the language is far to technical. Can

anyone give me in plain english what to expect? Thank you for your

time.

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Phil.wrote:

> Hi my son (aged 32) is very near to reaching end stage achalasia.

What treatments has he had in the past and what kind of surgery are they

suggesting now? Even with end stage achalasia (megaesophagus) they will

sometimes try to do a Heller myotomy or redo one that has been done

before. That is not a bad surgery. It is worse if it has to be open but

still there are many worse surgeries than open Heller myotomy. The

biggie is the esophagectomy, known here as simply ectomy. That is were

they remove part of the esophagus or more likely remove much and leave

only a part of it. It is major surgery and it is understandable that one

would be afraid of it. There are members here that have had an ectomy.

He won't get better without help and at that stage his esophagus

probably will get worse. If there is nothing left but ectomy then he may

decide to live with it until symptoms become too bad. There are others

here that have been in that situation and used the time to consult more

doctors and look at all the options. They can tell you more about how it

has worked out for them.

Let us know more and we can be more specific.

notan

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The term " end stage achalasia " sounds dreadfully scary, but not nearly as bad as

a term such as " end stage lymphoma, " where it means or implies an imminent

death.  I am not even sure as to the precision of the term " end stage

achalasia, " in other words precisely what it means.  My belief (without checking

the internet for definitions) is that it is the last stage the esophagus goes

through in its deterioration from achalasia.  (Notan, as always, please feel

free to correct me if I'm wrong). 

A couple of things, I believe that this is a subjective call based upon

observations taken from diagnostic tests, such as a barium swallow, endoscopy or

manometry.  I think different doctors have different " interpretations " of what

they would consider " end stage. "  

I had my (open) heller myotomy in 1991.  Many years later when I needed my

medical records, s Hopkins sent hundreds of pages to me.  That was about two

years ago.  In those papers I discovered, for the first time, that I had " end

stage achalasia " back then.  Nobody told me that.  I still have my esophagus.  I

still, with " limitaitons " eat well and sleep fine, and have myself monitored

annually.

I am agreeing with the excellent information provided by Notan and , and

adding on that you can't allow this term to drive you to the edge.  You ask

" what to expect. "   I would simply advise you to go out there and get several

different opinions from the best doctors you can get to see.  You may be

surprised to see how they may differ.  I do not know which operation your

surgeons are talking about (ectomy or myotomy: big difference), but I can tell

you that, rather than allowing the term  " end stage " to frighten, just take it as

an additional " wake up call " to proceed with the course of action that makes the

most sense to you after having heard several different opinions.

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From: phil.brown55 <phil.brown55@...>

achalasia

Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2008 4:45:43 AM

Subject: end stage achalasia

Hi my son (aged 32) is very near to reaching end stage achalasia. He

is scared to death and at present is in denial and whilst surgeons in

NZ want to operate in February 09 he is finding every reason not to

have it. Have trawled the net to find out more about the meaning and

treatment for end stage but the language is far to technical. Can

anyone give me in plain english what to expect? Thank you for your

time.

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yeah, I can tell you what to expect. But what are your son's symptoms?

What do you mean by " he is in denial " ? He may be a realist.

" End-stage " may mean he requires an esophagectomy, a gastric pull-up,

a colonic interposition, or possibly other things.

Or is it just a myotomy with a fundoplication? That's no big deal.

But, like everything, there are risks. And I wouldn't dismiss your

son's hesitation about undergoing surgery that could possibly make

things worse.

ly, as a person who had therapeutic failure from all other

typical previous achalasia procedures, my laprascopic

myotomy/fundoplication surgery DID make things worse. LES pain became

more persistent. The head GI thought my " end-stage " achalasia would

require more aggressive surgery, which I wisely rejected until all

other alternatives were tried.

My other answer is this: If your son doesn't want to have surgery,

then he shouldn't. It's HIS decision. He has to live with the

condition and experience the symptoms. At 32, he can do all the

research he wants to do. That's what HE should do.

The problem I see is doctors who will not treat conditions that are

bothersome, not the patients who are reluctant to undergo surgery.

Doctors will always want to perform surgery, and be less likely to

explore alternative, less-invasive treatments.

When his situation gets bad enough, he will seek appropriate care.

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> Hi my son (aged 32) is very near to reaching end stage achalasia. He

> is scared to death and at present is in denial and whilst surgeons in

> NZ want to operate in February 09 he is finding every reason not to

> have it. Have trawled the net to find out more about the meaning and

> treatment for end stage but the language is far to technical. Can

> anyone give me in plain english what to expect? Thank you for your

> time.

>

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