Guest guest Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 Dear First let me say, that I know it is hard to hear anything because your heart is thumping so loudly. Next... try to hear my words... YOU are your childs own best advocate. You know when that mean bully or that nasty mom said some thing to you about your child, and you could and maybe did bite their head off?... Well you need to RECLAIM that attitude... it is very important to your family right now. Mind you, some people don't have it... if you are not that kind... you find someone who does. and ask them to help be an ADVOCATE FOR YOUR CHILD. a sister or brother, mother, father, friend, husband. Someone STRONG of Character. this is an Occupation! believe it or not. You need to NOT think of your doctor, just your child. ( I met so many who just wanted a whack at him.. Poo! ) Identify what YOUR CHILD needs, not what anybody tells you. YOU know better than anyone on this planet what he needs. You need to put your self in a position to know MORE than your primary doctor. I guarantee you will.. ..It won't take long till this is done, You need to have a relationship with the Pediatrician and the Medical Billing Person in that office, that you can tell him where you need to go. They should just do it.. This could require you to move to a network that is TINY SO THEY HAVE TO REFER OUT FOR EVERYTHING!!!!! At the first doctor I went to, when Cameron was having the first signs of not swallowing, the Pediatrician told us much the same thing, We needed to go to whom ever he refered, It would be whom HE felt we needed, IT would NOT be out of his system... AT ALL. We were in the University of CA DAVIS system who is premier for some things.. but not for children and gastro things. You know what... here is what I thought. this is the USA and I have a right to chose the BEST MEDICAL CARE AVAILABLE IN THE WHOLE WORLD FOR MY KID AND NO ONE IS GONNA TELL ME DIFFERENT... that was my opinion. and so I shopped for a new pediatrician. I dont know where you are located or how many different achalasia specialists you have spoken too, but... you need to interview them, interview the folks who have seen them, and those who have had CHILDREN with this situation. Use the achalasia site... YOUR SITUATION IS SOOOO RARE, THAT YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CALL THE SHOTS... you need to, you have it available to you, the opportunity to get the best possible care for your chiild.. All you have to do is insist on it. You as a mom have a lot of research and reading to do, to.. Spend some time on Google Scholar, and then on the Achalasia site. In the member search bar in the middle of the page, type in some specific words you need info for.. like HMO or gastro.. or a doctors name. Below I have copied another situation that we faced and a letter i sent to another woman faced with HMO problems. I want to encourge you that 1.YOU CAN DO THIS. 2. FIND A PEDIATRICIAN YOU CAN WORK WITH 3. GET OUT OF THE NETWORK YOU ARE IN, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE IN A UNIVERSITY NETWORK. they will NEVER admit that Achalasia is NOT their speciality. 4. FIND THE SPECIALIST YOU can WORK with. OR HAS THE SKILLS YOU NEED FOR YOUR BABY...( I didnt say " like " the doctor) 5.DO YOUR RESEARCH 6. Join WWW.REFLUX.ORG at pager.net. 7. REALIZE THE NEED FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF A SUPER PEDIATRIC SPECIALIST AS YOUR CHILD HAS THE OPTION FOR A LOT OF GROWTH, AND LONGEVITY AHEAD. and Potential problems ... 8. By the way, your Achalasia Specialist will have a research or personal assistant who will do the neccessary " fighting " with the med insurance as needed. Above all Be Prayerful and Know this experience will truly make you into a person of great character for your self and your family... so Greet this challenge like it was an adventure.. You wouldn't go to Disneyland and not know ahead of time what is there to see would ya?? : )) Know in your heart that the only person that really matters in this is your child, and your sweet baby is entitled and deserving of the best medical knowledge and experience that money can buy... EVEN IF YOUR DON'T HAVE ANY!! I AM ONLY TOO HAPPY TO HELP YOU IF YOU SO DESIRE. See the message from 2 years ago below. Carolyn mom of Cameron ... in No. CA Kathleen Message #38239 of 52995 Kathleen, you have all latitude you want, you just have to fight for it from an educated point of view. I am surprised you HMO didn't want a dilation done first. That is what ours said. They rejected our request for even the lap, but fortunately, our Surgeon of " CHOICE " 's assistant did all the educated medical fighting for us, with documentation. Perhaps it is in your best interest to ask them what the decision was based on. We found that our HMO decision was based on their medical resource dictionary that listed the information and recommendations regarding treatment of Achalasia from medical resource papers from 1999. You are entitled to a second and a third opinion. I would use this. Your insurance company does not have your best interest in mind they have their Dollar Bills in mind. So be your own best advocate or perhaps you have someone who can help you, Be the tough Questioneer... Given that Cameron's surgery was Well over $125,000 for his open surgery, the Lap is a cheaper choice, and the Balloon Dilation is even cheaper. Interview the network person.(surgeon) .. get the questionnaire from the database and fire away... I wish you the best.. Carolyn mom of Cameron ... in the Foothills of the Sierra expecting a dash of Snow.... " Kathleen R. " <eringobrough2@...> wrote: Thank you all for the input. Unfortunately, I found out yesterday that my insurance company has rejected my request to have a laproscopic myotomy done at the university. They have a thoracic surgeon in network that does the myotomy as an 'open' thoracic surgery (not VATS) and said I should go to him. He has an excellent reputation as a surgeon, but I do think a laprosoptic approach might be safer for me especially since I'm in what is considered the early stages of A. And the surgeons at the University also have very good reputations. I'm trying to decided what to do next. Do I go with the thoracic surgeon? Do I appeal the HMO's decision? Do I attempt to switch insurance companies to one that would cover the laprosopic myotomy done at the university (hoping that I can switch with a 'preexisting condition')? Looks like I'll be doing some more research. From: ANGELA BAKER <kotacj@...> Subject: Re: !! achalasia Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 3:41 PM carolyn- ok breath. dakota is 100% tube fed. he cannot eat or drink anything. he has a nasododenal tube. this tube was inserted this summer after a 50lb weight loss.first gi fired, second gi doc excellent, caring, listened to us, but couldn't figure what was wrong and refered us to 3rd gi doc. 3rd gi doc figured it out but now refuses to write us a letter of medical neccesity to see doctor rice. 3rd doc wants us to see dr rodgers ,surgeon, who has only done a total of 7 hellers in his 30 year career. our insurance company has already approved this doc. the referal to this surgeon was done without our knowledge. I totally agree with you when you say young arrogant pup.the reason he gave us for refering us to this surgeon is because , " I have to refer to someone in our system or it would seem like I don't have confidence in our surgeons. " read, " I want to sit at the big boys table. " we did meet with this surgeon and that is where we learned he'd only done seven surgeries, he knew nothing of eosinophilic esophagitis or gastroparesis and the impact surgey could have on these conditions. after several discussions between my husband and myself we told the surgeon we were not going with him only to find out the surgery had already been approved. we do have an awesome primary care doc who is writing a letter of medical neccesity and today dakota's 2nd gi doc wrote us a letter. we do not have a surgical date set because I was waiting to get insurance approval for cc. if I'm hearing you right, the primary care docs referal carries the most weight with the insurance company. how do I undo the damage already done by dr barrette barnes with regard to this surgical referal? or do I even need to. will the insurance company take issue with me because of this? or will they let it go because I do have a primary care doc and as of today a gi doc who are willing to support us? thanks for taking time to help me breath. when I read you post I felt some anxiey lift...angela hmo nightmare achalasia@grou ps.com<mailto:achalasia% 40groups. com> Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 1:31 PM dakota's gi doc is refusing to write us a letter of medical necessity which will help us in our quest to have dr rice operate. dr barrette barnes of vua want us to let dr bradely rodgers operate on dakota. he says because he works with dr rodgers he is obligated to refer to my son to dr rodgers because he, dr barnes, " depends on his relationship " with the doctors at uva. since when does a doctor not consider what the patient wants. i am cring so hard right now i can't even see how type. please please help me. should i get a lawyer? i only wants dr rice, i don't doubt dr rodgers is a good surgeon but he has only done 7 of these procedures and one of the seven had to go back. he has not kept tract of his previous patients and refuses to give us any phones numbers or information regarding his patient outcomes. when asked about the fact dakota has eosinophilic esophagitis and the impact it could have on surgery he, dr rodgers said " he didn't know. " when ask how dakota gastropresis will impact the surgery he said " i don't " know. what the hell... please if anyone can advise me, please...angela Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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