Re: Pain, burning 5 weeks post myotomy

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> surgeon, he said it was puzzling, but didn't feel it was urgent. I'm

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Nerve pain can seem different in different cases so it can be hard to

compare. Often it does feel like a burning. It can also feel like when

your leg or hand go to sleep. Do you also feel any numbness or itching?

Probably not if the pain is deep. I would think that a nerve starting to

act up this long after surgery would be kind of odd. If it has been

caught in the build up of scar tissue though, perhaps it make sense.

Adhesions can be painful for some and they can act up when you become

more active.

notan

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, Eloisa here.  I'm the one that was just a bit ahead of you on surgery

date.  Mine was on 10/7/08.  Sounds like we've had a lot of the same symptoms,

post op..... " hang up " feeling but eventually food and liquids go through as I've

not regurgitated or vomited either.  So that's good.  I've also had some pain on

my left side, near the left incision, where I had the most bruising after

surgery....maybe where you've described your pain.  In fact, just the other day,

I told my husband that I've had this " nagging " pain.  I've not considered them

sharp pains, except maybe one time..  I did take liquid tylenol and it went

away.  At this point, I'm not worried and I've not called the doctor.  I'm just

monitoring.  I may just start jotting down when I get the pain and intensity and

will call if it gets worse.

Let me know what your doctor says.

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From: tracy21261 <tracy212@...>

achalasia

Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 10:14:10 AM

Subject: Pain, burning 5 weeks post myotomy

Hi my fellow group members! If there is anywhere I can get an answer

I'm sure it is here. I'm so impressed by the knowledge on the board!!

well anyway 5 weeks post op Heller with Dor. No vomitting after eating

which is good, I still feel it " hang up " which is my clue to stop

eating, it seems like eventually it goes through. My main problem is a

burning feeling across my upper abdomen ( basically right across the

lap incision sites) This is bothersome but I can live with it (I'd

rather not but we know we all make compromises! !) what is really

bothering is a deep sharp pain to the left side. It seems to get worse

with movement or if I try to take a deep breath. I went back to work on

monday, it was so bad I had to leave yesterday. Took some liquid

Tylenol at lunch did nothing, when i got home around 4:30 took some

liquid Roxicet. Hadn't done that since about 5 days post op. Called

surgeon, he said it was puzzling, but didn't feel it was urgent. I'm

seeing him next week. He did mention something about a nerve

possibly.Does this sound familiar to anyone? After reading posts it

doesn't seem like I should be having any pain.I am pretty tolerant of

pain, but this is scaring me!! Thanks for any input. from Mass

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Hi Eloisa, so nice to hear from you!! i'm definitely a little nervous, I should

not have pain 5 weeks later.Since surgery I always have the burning feeling

right across my abdomen, the sharp deep pain seems to be when I've been moving

around, although I get it while seated as well. At my 1st post op I had

mentioned these symptoms and he said that was where he did the majority of work,

so I figured it was just a time issue. .after reading so many posts from people

saying how great they feel after just a couple weeks, I just feel that something

is not " right " I'm seeing Doctor on Tuesday. He seems more concerned abouth the

swallowing, I've already accepted what that is going to be like, but I'm not

willing to accept this pain and burning. I'll let you know what he says!!

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, Eloisa here. I'm the one that was just a bit ahead of you on surgery

date. Mine was on 10/7/08. Sounds like we've had a lot of the same symptoms,

post op..... " hang up " feeling but eventually food and liquids go through as I've

not regurgitated or vomited either. So that's good. I've also had some pain on

my left side, near the left incision, where I had the most bruising after

surgery....maybe where you've described your pain. In fact, just the other day,

I told my husband that I've had this " nagging " pain. I've not considered them

sharp pains, except maybe one time.. I did take liquid tylenol and it went

away. At this point, I'm not worried and I've not called the doctor. I'm just

monitoring. I may just start jotting down when I get the pain and intensity and

will call if it gets worse.

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> From: tracy21261 <tracy212@...>

> achalasia

> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 10:14:10 AM

> Subject: Pain, burning 5 weeks post myotomy

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> Hi my fellow group members! If there is anywhere I can get an answer

> I'm sure it is here. I'm so impressed by the knowledge on the board!!

> well anyway 5 weeks post op Heller with Dor. No vomitting after eating

> which is good, I still feel it " hang up " which is my clue to stop

> eating, it seems like eventually it goes through. My main problem is a

> burning feeling across my upper abdomen ( basically right across the

> lap incision sites) This is bothersome but I can live with it (I'd

> rather not but we know we all make compromises! !) what is really

> bothering is a deep sharp pain to the left side. It seems to get worse

> with movement or if I try to take a deep breath. I went back to work on

> monday, it was so bad I had to leave yesterday. Took some liquid

> Tylenol at lunch did nothing, when i got home around 4:30 took some

> liquid Roxicet. Hadn't done that since about 5 days post op. Called

> surgeon, he said it was puzzling, but didn't feel it was urgent. I'm

> seeing him next week. He did mention something about a nerve

> possibly.Does this sound familiar to anyone? After reading posts it

> doesn't seem like I should be having any pain.I am pretty tolerant of

> pain, but this is scaring me!! Thanks for any input. from Mass

>

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, if it's a burning pain, maybe it's acid reflux, as now our chances of

getting reflux is greater w/ the myotomy.  I will be thinking of you and yes,

please keep me posted.  I've had slight pains here and there but nothing

major....definitely no burning pains.  I'm glad you are seeing the doctor.  Will

it be your surgeon or your GI doc?

Eloisa

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From: " tracy212@... " <tracy212@...>

achalasia

Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 7:35:50 PM

Subject: Re: Pain, burning 5 weeks post myotomy

Hi Eloisa, so nice to hear from you!! i'm definitely a little nervous, I should

not have pain 5 weeks later.Since surgery I always have the burning feeling

right across my abdomen, the sharp deep pain seems to be when I've been moving

around, although I get it while seated as well. At my 1st post op I had

mentioned these symptoms and he said that was where he did the majority of work,

so I figured it was just a time issue. .after reading so many posts from people

saying how great they feel after just a couple weeks, I just feel that something

is not " right " I'm seeing Doctor on Tuesday. He seems more concerned abouth the

swallowing, I've already accepted what that is going to be like, but I'm not

willing to accept this pain and burning. I'll let you know what he says!! Thanks

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, Eloisa here. I'm the one that was just a bit ahead of you on surgery

date. Mine was on 10/7/08. Sounds like we've had a lot of the same symptoms,

post op..... " hang up " feeling but eventually food and liquids go through as I've

not regurgitated or vomited either. So that's good.. I've also had some pain on

my left side, near the left incision, where I had the most bruising after

surgery....maybe where you've described your pain. In fact, just the other day,

I told my husband that I've had this " nagging " pain. I've not considered them

sharp pains, except maybe one time.. I did take liquid tylenol and it went away.

At this point, I'm not worried and I've not called the doctor. I'm just

monitoring. I may just start jotting down when I get the pain and intensity and

will call if it gets worse.

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> Let me know what your doctor says.

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> From: tracy21261 <tracy212comcast (DOT) net>

> achalasia@grou ps.com

> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 10:14:10 AM

> Subject: Pain, burning 5 weeks post myotomy

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> Hi my fellow group members! If there is anywhere I can get an answer

> I'm sure it is here. I'm so impressed by the knowledge on the board!!

> well anyway 5 weeks post op Heller with Dor. No vomitting after eating

> which is good, I still feel it " hang up " which is my clue to stop

> eating, it seems like eventually it goes through. My main problem is a

> burning feeling across my upper abdomen ( basically right across the

> lap incision sites) This is bothersome but I can live with it (I'd

> rather not but we know we all make compromises! !) what is really

> bothering is a deep sharp pain to the left side. It seems to get worse

> with movement or if I try to take a deep breath. I went back to work on

> monday, it was so bad I had to leave yesterday. Took some liquid

> Tylenol at lunch did nothing, when i got home around 4:30 took some

> liquid Roxicet. Hadn't done that since about 5 days post op. Called

> surgeon, he said it was puzzling, but didn't feel it was urgent. I'm

> seeing him next week. He did mention something about a nerve

> possibly.Does this sound familiar to anyone? After reading posts it

> doesn't seem like I should be having any pain.I am pretty tolerant of

> pain, but this is scaring me!! Thanks for any input. from Mass

>

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Hi Eloisa, definitely not reflux, that has not been an issue yet. The prevacid

has been working. It almost feels like something is " pinched " The burning is

right across abdomen along the port sites. I 'm hoping there are not adhesions.

I work as a medical assistant in a OB-GYN practice and the docs do Lap surgeries

and they don't think this sounds right either.They have been great about

working, etc. they tell me to not over do it etc. I called out today, of course

have to hear a little attitude from clinical supervisor, just may have to

mention it when I go back!! Of course I want to be at work, but after a couple

hours of running around I'm miserable! that's when that sharp pain kicks in. God

I hate whining, but this is the only place that anyone understands !! Hopefully

I get an answer from surgeon on Tuesday! Thanks for listening.

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, if it's a burning pain, maybe it's acid reflux, as now our chances of

getting reflux is greater w/ the myotomy. I will be thinking of you and yes,

please keep me posted. I've had slight pains here and there but nothing

major....definitely no burning pains. I'm glad you are seeing the doctor. Will

it be your surgeon or your GI doc?

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> Eloisa

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> From: " tracy212@... " <tracy212@...>

> achalasia

> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 7:35:50 PM

> Subject: Re: Pain, burning 5 weeks post myotomy

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> Hi Eloisa, so nice to hear from you!! i'm definitely a little nervous, I

should not have pain 5 weeks later.Since surgery I always have the burning

feeling right across my abdomen, the sharp deep pain seems to be when I've been

moving around, although I get it while seated as well. At my 1st post op I had

mentioned these symptoms and he said that was where he did the majority of work,

so I figured it was just a time issue. .after reading so many posts from people

saying how great they feel after just a couple weeks, I just feel that something

is not " right " I'm seeing Doctor on Tuesday. He seems more concerned abouth the

swallowing, I've already accepted what that is going to be like, but I'm not

willing to accept this pain and burning. I'll let you know what he says!! Thanks

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date. Mine was on 10/7/08. Sounds like we've had a lot of the same symptoms,

post op..... " hang up " feeling but eventually food and liquids go through as I've

not regurgitated or vomited either. So that's good.. I've also had some pain on

my left side, near the left incision, where I had the most bruising after

surgery....maybe where you've described your pain. In fact, just the other day,

I told my husband that I've had this " nagging " pain. I've not considered them

sharp pains, except maybe one time.. I did take liquid tylenol and it went away.

At this point, I'm not worried and I've not called the doctor. I'm just

monitoring. I may just start jotting down when I get the pain and intensity and

will call if it gets worse.

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> > Hi my fellow group members! If there is anywhere I can get an answer

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> > I'm sure it is here. I'm so impressed by the knowledge on the board!!

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> > well anyway 5 weeks post op Heller with Dor. No vomitting after eating

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> > which is good, I still feel it " hang up " which is my clue to stop

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> > eating, it seems like eventually it goes through. My main problem is a

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> > burning feeling across my upper abdomen ( basically right across the

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> > lap incision sites) This is bothersome but I can live with it (I'd

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> > rather not but we know we all make compromises! !) what is really

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> > bothering is a deep sharp pain to the left side. It seems to get worse

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> > with movement or if I try to take a deep breath. I went back to work on

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> > monday, it was so bad I had to leave yesterday. Took some liquid

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> > Tylenol at lunch did nothing, when i got home around 4:30 took some

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> > liquid Roxicet. Hadn't done that since about 5 days post op. Called

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> > surgeon, he said it was puzzling, but didn't feel it was urgent. I'm

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> > seeing him next week. He did mention something about a nerve

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> > possibly.Does this sound familiar to anyone? After reading posts it

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> > doesn't seem like I should be having any pain.I am pretty tolerant of

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> > pain, but this is scaring me!! Thanks for any input. from Mass

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Hi..i am due for my myotomy early next month...has anyone of us who has

undegrone myotmy with wrap not suffered the spasm...what i could get through the

past mails is that spasms are quite painful and keep on troubling for even more

than 5 weeks post surgery...so do you guys go on work or take rest till 5 weeks

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date. Mine was on 10/7/08. Sounds like we've had a lot of the same symptoms,

post op..... " hang up " feeling but eventually food and liquids go through as I've

not regurgitated or vomited either. So that's good.. I've also had some pain on

my left side, near the left incision, where I had the most bruising after

surgery....maybe where you've described your pain. In fact, just the other day,

I told my husband that I've had this " nagging " pain. I've not considered them

sharp pains, except maybe one time.. I did take liquid tylenol and it went away.

At this point, I'm not worried and I've not called the doctor. I'm just

monitoring. I may just start jotting down when I get the pain and intensity and

will call if it gets worse.

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> > From: tracy21261 <tracy212comcast (DOT) net>

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> > achalasia@grou ps.com

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> > Hi my fellow group members! If there is anywhere I can get an answer

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> > I'm sure it is here. I'm so impressed by the knowledge on the board!!

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> > well anyway 5 weeks post op Heller with Dor. No vomitting after eating

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> > which is good, I still feel it " hang up " which is my clue to stop

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> > eating, it seems like eventually it goes through. My main problem is a

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> > burning feeling across my upper abdomen ( basically right across the

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> > lap incision sites) This is bothersome but I can live with it (I'd

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> > rather not but we know we all make compromises! !) what is really

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> > bothering is a deep sharp pain to the left side. It seems to get worse

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> > with movement or if I try to take a deep breath. I went back to work on

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> > monday, it was so bad I had to leave yesterday. Took some liquid

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> > Tylenol at lunch did nothing, when i got home around 4:30 took some

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> > liquid Roxicet. Hadn't done that since about 5 days post op. Called

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> > surgeon, he said it was puzzling, but didn't feel it was urgent. I'm

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> > seeing him next week. He did mention something about a nerve

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> > possibly.Does this sound familiar to anyone? After reading posts it

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> > doesn't seem like I should be having any pain.I am pretty tolerant of

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> > pain, but this is scaring me!! Thanks for any input. from Mass

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I have had a few spasms, but not as severe as before surgery. Those were quite

painful.The pain I have now is around the Lap area sites, but primarily near my

stomach, where most of work was done. I thought I was ready to go back to work,

but moving around has increased my pain. I think everyone is different with post

op, it seems as though majority do very well. I think I'm just having a minor

complication ( I HOPE) Just listen to your body post op and don't over do it.

You will do fine!! good luck and keep us posted. we all try to help each other

here. I don't think I could have gotten through the past months without this

group!! from Mass

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Hi..i am due for my myotomy early next month...has anyone of us who has

undegrone myotmy with wrap not suffered the spasm...what i could get through the

past mails is that spasms are quite painful and keep on troubling for even more

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post op..... " hang up " feeling but eventually food and liquids go through as I've

not regurgitated or vomited either. So that's good.. I've also had some pain on

my left side, near the left incision, where I had the most bruising after

surgery....maybe where you've described your pain. In fact, just the other day,

I told my husband that I've had this " nagging " pain. I've not considered them

sharp pains, except maybe one time.. I did take liquid tylenol and it went away.

At this point, I'm not worried and I've not called the doctor. I'm just

monitoring. I may just start jotting down when I get the pain and intensity and

will call if it gets worse.

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> > > well anyway 5 weeks post op Heller with Dor. No vomitting after eating

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If surgery is done laproscopic then typically 2-4 weeks you need to

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on surgery date. Mine was on 10/7/08. Sounds like we've had a lot of

the same symptoms, post op..... " hang up " feeling but eventually food

and liquids go through as I've not regurgitated or vomited either. So

that's good.. I've also had some pain on my left side, near the left

incision, where I had the most bruising after surgery....maybe where

you've described your pain. In fact, just the other day, I told my

husband that I've had this " nagging " pain. I've not considered them

sharp pains, except maybe one time.. I did take liquid tylenol and it

went away. At this point, I'm not worried and I've not called the

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achalasia

Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 1:01:04 PM

Subject: Re: Pain, burning 5 weeks post myotomy

Hi..i am due for my myotomy early next month...has anyone of us who has

undegrone myotmy with wrap not suffered the spasm...what i could get through the

past mails is that spasms are quite painful and keep on troubling for even more

than 5 weeks post surgery...so do you guys go on work or take rest till 5 weeks

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post op..... " hang up " feeling but eventually food and liquids go through as I've

not regurgitated or vomited either. So that's good... I've also had some pain on

my left side, near the left incision, where I had the most bruising after

surgery....maybe where you've described your pain. In fact, just the other day,

I told my husband that I've had this " nagging " pain. I've not considered them

sharp pains, except maybe one time.. I did take liquid tylenol and it went away.

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> ..has anyone of us who has undegrone myotmy with wrap not suffered the

spasm...

I didn't have much trouble with spasms before or after surgery. I have

on occasion had them but I don't remember them being a problem for me

while recovering from surgery. Most people who have a bad time with them

while recovering usually have fewer of them as time goes on and they

usually become less painful too.

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No, not necessarily true. The spasms and pain may be long-lasting and

not just a temporary surgical side-effect.

In refractory cases, where dilatation, myotomy, fundoplication, and

calcium channel-blocker/Botocx drugs have all failed, LES

hyper-pressure may remain and be long-lasting. Chronic Pain is a

likely outcome. If surgery has not worked in the past, what makes it

so predictably likely to work without horrendous side-effects in the

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wrap. Who is there to speak of the residual patients who have had NO

success with these traditionally used methods, and who have chronic pain?

All these studies concentrate on the first group. Very little is said

about the latter group where--and omg, this may me too terrible to

contemplate--PAIN MANAGEMENT may be the safest and most efficaciocus

treatment approach, offering the fewest risks. Even treatment

approaches using OPIOIDS (insert aghast response here). The use of

opioid-medication is the standard against which all other

pain-relieving elixirs are judged. That is indisputable. And

side-effects are minimal when compared to conventional surgery.

No one will say that, however, when there's a plethora surgeons and

willing, referring GI all too ready to pursue surgical routes, when

they may the riskiest endeavors out there. It helps to have all these

'caring' patients who paint the picture of wonderful results achieved

through traditional medical methods (i.e, cutting, slicing and

thorough body-sculpting).

I will say, without hesitation, that the fundoplication wrap made

muscle spasm persistent pain WORSE. Post-botox-treatments were

completely ineffectual.

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tracy- have you signed up for family leave? I have signed up for intermitant

leave so I can be avaliable for my son when issues arise. after doing this keep

tract of days you have missed. your entitled to 54 days a year. you don't need

to worry about your supervisor when your tring to get healthy...angela

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Steve,

I'm glad to hear that pain management meds work for you. My

husband, with DES, hasn't had any luck with them. Also, when

his spasms start and he would need meds the most, he's unable to get

them down. By the way, he hasn't had surgery. He consulted with Dr.

Rice almost 3 years ago, who told he could do surgery if he

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Hi , actually I have. The office manager insisted and now I know why!! She

has been really good, it's my clinical manager that makes an occasional

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Hi , actually I have. The office manager insisted and now I know why!!

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network. it's so frustrating. all the waiting. and i'm really not sure they are

even going to approve the surgery. they approved a doc who has only done 7

myotomies in the last 30 years, I said no thank you. my son is 16 and is 100%

tube fed. he can't eat or drink anything. he getting to the end of his rope with

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leaving early if her precious one sneezes. double standard absolutely. at least

your office manager is sticking up for you. hope your feeling better so. I'm not

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my god soooooooooo true!! and the scary part is the lack of compassion for her

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we live in virginia beach. we're waiting approval from insurance to

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who has done only seven in the last 30 years. i said no thanks. my

son is 100% tubefed. it's getting old. he 16 and just wants to

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