Re: Herbal tablet for Achalasia-Achlotab

[Guest guest]

Isn't achlotab something that pops up on the internet and we had a

discussion about it maybe a year ago??? It turns out that website had

about 100 other diseases that the same pill supposedly cured.

Maybe I'm confused. Was the other gastro a holistic one? I'm going to

go look up our old comments.

Sandy

>

> Hi. I am newly diagnosed with achalasia. I would like to know if

> anyone has tried this herbal tablet-Achlotab. The ad states

guaranteed

> cured. My doctor has prescribed nifedephine, but I saw another

> gastroenterologist that recommended achlotab instead. The

> gastroenterologist also recommended getting the minimally invasive

> laparoscopic epasogeal myotomy if the pills do not work. Is this

> procedure similar to Heller's myotomy? Whos is considered the best

> surgeon to perform this procedure? my doctor is in La jolla-Scripps

> Institute. Thanks much, Ned

>

[Guest guest]

hi, ned!  welcome to the group.

i've not tried any of the pills.  for me, i felt the lap surgery was the best

option.  i believe the two surgeries you mentioned are one in the same, but when

you say just heller myotomy that can mean laproscopic or open.  nowadays, the

laproscopic is the preferred surgery.

i had the surgery just three weeks ago and i'm doing great!

i know someone in orange county who has achalasia but he went to ucla for expert

advice.

let me know if you have any more questions.

eloisa from ft wayne, IN

From: benoticed1 <benoticed1@...>

achalasia

Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 5:06:03 PM

Subject: Herbal tablet for Achalasia-Achlotab

Hi. I am newly diagnosed with achalasia. I would like to know if

anyone has tried this herbal tablet-Achlotab. The ad states guaranteed

cured. My doctor has prescribed nifedephine, but I saw another

gastroenterologist that recommended achlotab instead. The

gastroenterologist also recommended getting the minimally invasive

laparoscopic epasogeal myotomy if the pills do not work. Is this

procedure similar to Heller's myotomy? Whos is considered the best

surgeon to perform this procedure? my doctor is in La jolla-Scripps

Institute. Thanks much, Ned

[Guest guest]

Man, don't even open up that can of worms. I found the old topic and

it was absolutely beaten to death a while ago. Be suspicious of any

instant cure.

Just for a brief minute.... on my soap box.... I'd guess at least 80%

of the people that come through this group have some kind of

successful treatment recognized through the AMA and well published.

We may disagree or make suggestions about techniques or procedures or

doctors, because we all adore our doctors if they have made us able

to eat again. Most disappear and never come back here. Maybe

another 10% need a second treatment. Then another few more have

constant ongoing issues. No one knows for sure why, but the

indicators are that it is because of delayed early treatment or

inexperienced doctors early on in the disease. For some there is no

explanation.

None have had luck w/ a magic pill. Some may delay treatment,

waiting for the magic pill or green drops to work, but none of these

has been proven successful when daylight is shined on the techniques

or procedures beyond anecdotal evidence. Whenever a " magic cure " is

introduced be aware if the person introducing it has a financial

interest in it.

Believe me, everyone here would like to avoid surgery and financial

and emotional drain, most have searched and searched. The only

relief found, that can be documented is from dialations, or a

myotomy. Some medications seem to help w/ spasms, seems like Reglan

has slight chances of helping with swallowing, sometimes. Botox may

be appropriate in some situation. Doing nothing is continuing to

live in misery and face complications and deepened misery in life.

Sometimes a person's other health issues may be such that doing

nothing is the only choice. No magic pill has helped.

I could pussy foot around, but doing nothing, does not lead to any

improvement. I really don't understand the logic of keeping

something intact that isn't properly functioning just for the sake of

keeping it intact. But each to their own. It is like keeping a

diseased tooth and living with the pain and infection. You could

have a filling, root canal, removal or antibiotics and try to make it

better. Why live with the infection and pain if you don't have to?

Sandy

> >

> > Hi. I am newly diagnosed with achalasia. I would like to know if

> > anyone has tried this herbal tablet-Achlotab. The ad states

> guaranteed

> > cured. My doctor has prescribed nifedephine, but I saw another

> > gastroenterologist that recommended achlotab instead. The

> > gastroenterologist also recommended getting the minimally

invasive

> > laparoscopic epasogeal myotomy if the pills do not work. Is this

> > procedure similar to Heller's myotomy? Whos is considered the

best

> > surgeon to perform this procedure? my doctor is in La jolla-

Scripps

> > Institute. Thanks much, Ned

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Ned,

I'm in Long Beach. There is a woman, Love, in the San Diego

area. She opted for a dialation at USC. UCLA has Dr. Maisch and I

saw Dr. Fuller @ Cedars. There have been several that had treatment

in the San Diego area, but seems like they haven't posted lately. if

you go to the achalasia home page and in this group put in La

Jolla or Scripps, they may show up. Or San Diego.

I stay in touch somewhat with many from Southern CA and although

there are other great medical centers in Orange, Riverside and San

Bernardino counties, most go to the facilities I mentioned above, if

they can. The experience of the doctors/surgeons is one of the most

important indicators of success.

I saw Dr. Ippoliti at Cedars, and offhand, I can't remember the

gastro doctors' names at the other places. For each facility go to

their websites and search for the dept. heads for gastro, some have

esophageal centers. I'd suggest a second opinion. Not at all saying

Scripps doesn't have appropriate care, seems like people have had

success there, and I haven't heard anything negative, the more

experienced doctors will be at the higher volume places. But you

will get returned phone calls if you call the other places and then

can make more informed choices, if you desire.

Sandy in Long Beach, Ca.

>

> hi, ned!  welcome to the group.

>

> i've not tried any of the pills.  for me, i felt the lap surgery

was the best option.  i believe the two surgeries you mentioned are

one in the same, but when you say just heller myotomy that can mean

laproscopic or open.  nowadays, the laproscopic is the preferred

surgery.

>

> i had the surgery just three weeks ago and i'm doing great!

>

> i know someone in orange county who has achalasia but he went to

ucla for expert advice.

>

> let me know if you have any more questions.

>

> eloisa from ft wayne, IN

>

> From: benoticed1 <benoticed1@...>

> achalasia

> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 5:06:03 PM

> Subject: Herbal tablet for Achalasia-Achlotab

>

>

> Hi. I am newly diagnosed with achalasia. I would like to know if

> anyone has tried this herbal tablet-Achlotab. The ad states

guaranteed

> cured. My doctor has prescribed nifedephine, but I saw another

> gastroenterologist that recommended achlotab instead. The

> gastroenterologist also recommended getting the minimally invasive

> laparoscopic epasogeal myotomy if the pills do not work. Is this

> procedure similar to Heller's myotomy? Whos is considered the best

> surgeon to perform this procedure? my doctor is in La jolla-Scripps

> Institute. Thanks much, Ned

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> > From: benoticed1 benoticed1@

Whos is considered the best

> > surgeon to perform this procedure? my doctor is in La jolla-Scripps

> > Institute. Thanks much, Ned

I'm in San Diego and was referred by a local gastroenterologist to USC

in Los Angeles to see Dr. Steve DeMeester, a surgeon who is

knowledgeable about achlasia. I'm 65 years old, had recently had a

thoracotomy to remove a thoracic tumor and wasn't ready for another

surgery. Rather than surgery, I opted for a pneumatic dilatation in

April, 2008. Dr. DeMeester referred me to Dr. Kline, a

gastroenterologist at USC. Dr. Kline performed a pneumatic dilatation

[30 mm] with good results.

My best wishes to you!

[Guest guest]

My doctor from Scripps in La Jolla also referred Dr. Demeester. I already called

their office. Thanks for the advice. Ned

From: Love <evelynlove@...>

Subject: Re: Herbal tablet for Achalasia-Achlotab

achalasia

Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 9:40 AM

> > From: benoticed1 benoticed1@

Whos is considered the best

> > surgeon to perform this procedure? my doctor is in La jolla-Scripps

> > Institute. Thanks much, Ned

I'm in San Diego and was referred by a local gastroenterologist to USC

in Los Angeles to see Dr. Steve DeMeester, a surgeon who is

knowledgeable about achlasia. I'm 65 years old, had recently had a

thoracotomy to remove a thoracic tumor and wasn't ready for another

surgery. Rather than surgery, I opted for a pneumatic dilatation in

April, 2008. Dr. DeMeester referred me to Dr. Kline, a

gastroenterologist at USC. Dr. Kline performed a pneumatic dilatation

[30 mm] with good results.

My best wishes to you!

[Guest guest]

>

> My doctor from Scripps in La Jolla also referred Dr. Demeester. I

already called their office. Thanks for the advice. Ned

That sounds very positive! Dr. DeMeester is thorough and knowledgeable.

I saw Dr. Steve DeMeester, by the way. His father, Dr. Tom DeMeester at

USC, is also an expert, from what I've read and been told.

Perhaps you already know that Dr. DeMeester will repeat the three tests

related to an achalasia diagnosis. I had all of the tests done in La

Mesa at Sharp Grossmont first. Then at USC they did the tests again.

My best wishes to you.

in San Diego