IMUPlus and caffeine - for Judy

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Judy, you asked a question pertaining to IMUPlus and caffeine. You stated " I

take my first dose first thing in the morning. Normally, the only way I mobilize

in the morning is by consuming lots of caeffine. I'm assuming that caeffine

should not be taken shortly before or after taking the Imuplus. But, does anyone

have any guess as to how long I need to wait before drinking coffee or diet

coke? "

I don't know for sure, but I think Dr. Cheney's concern is with acidic

substances, not with caffeine per se. At least in regard to affecting IMUPlus

or Immunocal. I think he said that anything acidic will promote the digestion

(over-digestion?) of the protein, which you really want to avoid. Another

patient of his reported he even mentioned taking Pepcid AC a half hour to an

hour before taking IMUPlus if you were concerned about stomach acid neutralizing

the IMUPlus. And of course if you've been digesting food, there will be stomach

acid.

Even if acidic beverages aren't associated with the digestion problem, I do

remember that he said never take IMUPlus with anything acidic.

Since he said that it safe to eat 30 minutes or so after taking it (though I

usually wait an hour just to be sure), my guess is that would apply to your

coffee or soda also.

When I got the dose right, I had very clear benefits from Immunocal. I've been

off it since the beginning of September and am waiting now to begin IMUPlus as

part of a study Dr. Cheney is doing.

Take care. Carol

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<<<<You said you were drinking diet coke. This has aspartame which is

extremely toxic. Even the FDA acknowledges this as they get more calls about

this than any other substance. It is a neurotoxin--it will fry your brain.

I wish people would get this straight. Aspartame is simply two amino acids

which are found naturally in foods. It does not fry your brain. The

contraindication for use is those persons with phenyl ketonuria who cannot

process one of the two amino acids. Improperly stored or heated to excess, it

can change form into less healthful compounds which, consumed in LARGE amounts

can cause headaches in some people. It is entirely your choice whether to use

aspartame containing products, but I really get upset when people try to forbid

ME to use it. I know what I am doing and cannot have sugar, nor can my diabetic

spouse. For us, used in moderation, it is a good thing. I am also a former FDA

employee, trained to review studies and applications (before FMS forced me to

quit working). I have seen a lot of non-scientific " scare " articles on various

topics, including aspartame. Hysteria sells, but it doesn't make it true.

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In a message dated 11/26/99 10:26:53 AM Eastern Standard Time,

tromani@... writes:

<< Hysteria sells, but it doesn't make it true.

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You're right, Theresa, but aspertame does cause most of those who have MCF or

CFS/ME to have headaches as well as other problems. While it may not be

harmful for some, for most it does cause problems. It was on one of the

first lists of common things that seemed to cause problems for these

patients. Several physicians advocated staying away from these or to do an

elimination diet to see if eliminating would help.

Gail