Re: mito/carnitine

[Guest guest]

Never heard of such a high dose of Vit E. Highest I've heard of is 800.

What is rationale? Also, for L Carnitine, can you give rationale?

[Patti: ] When my carnitine tests ( " normal " test from " normal " lab - not a

specialty test) came back as extremely low, my doc looked in the PDR. It

said that when carnitine levels are a low as mine, 2-3 GRAMS/day are

indicated, however I can't seem to tolerate that much (could be herx). A

carnitine test could tell you whether you need it, how much, or whether

you're throwing your money away.

Due to cost, this is important!

[Patti: ] If you have prescription insurance it may be cheaper to buy it

from a pharmacy. After insurance, my pharmacy only charges $18 for 270

grams of carnitine. I'm thinking it may be cheaper to buy CoQ10 from a

pharmacy also. This is the next one I'm working on.

[Patti: ] Carnitine links that may be of interest to some:

Serum levels of carnitine in chronic fatigue syndrome: clinical

correlates.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query?uid=8544970

<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query?uid=8544970 & form=6 & db=m

& Dopt=b> & form=6 & db=m & Dopt=b

Acylcarnitine deficiency in chronic fatigue syndrome.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query?uid=8148455

<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query?uid=8148455 & form=6 & db=m

& Dopt=b> & form=6 & db=m & Dopt=b

[Carnitine as a vitamin-like biofactor]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query?uid=10540873

<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query?uid=10540873 & form=6 & db=

m & Dopt=b> & form=6 & db=m & Dopt=b

[Fibromyalgia syndrome]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query?uid=10078006

<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query?uid=10078006 & form=6 & db=

m & Dopt=b> & form=6 & db=m & Dopt=b

Low levels of serum acylcarnitine in chronic fatigue syndrome

and chronic hepatitis type C, but not seen in other diseases.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query?uid=9854142

<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query?uid=9854142 & form=6 & db=m

& Dopt=b> & form=6 & db=m & Dopt=b

L-Carnitine: therapeutic applications of a conditionally-essential

amino acid.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query?uid=9804680

<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query?uid=9804680 & form=6 & db=m

& Dopt=b> & form=6 & db=m & Dopt=b

Effects of L-carnitine supplementation on muscular symptoms

in hemodialyzed patients.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query?uid=9708610

<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query?uid=9708610 & form=6 & db=m

& Dopt=b> & form=6 & db=m & Dopt=b

Amantadine and L-carnitine treatment of Chronic Fatigue

Syndrome.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query?uid=9018019

<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query?uid=9018019 & form=6 & db=m

& Dopt=b> & form=6 & db=m & Dopt=b

Effect of oral L-carnitine on serum myoglobin in hemodialysis

patients.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query?uid=8820505

<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query?uid=8820505 & form=6 & db=m

& Dopt=b> & form=6 & db=m & Dopt=b

[Guest guest]

I have heard that L-carnitine has been subject to double blind studies & came

out looking pretty good. Is there a difference between pharmacy grade and health

food store grade? Same question for

CQ10.

Steve

[Guest guest]

Is there a difference between pharmacy grade and health food store grade?

[Patti: ] It is the same answer for all supplements, it depends. Often

things in the health food store are only food grade (which is lower in

purity than pharmaceutical grade). If it doesn't say pharmaceutical grade

it probably isn't.