Guest guest Posted May 19, 2000 Report Share Posted May 19, 2000 Ken and anybody else who uses this herb, Do you know of a good inexpensive, reputable source for thisherb? Would you recommend nutrimart ? My health professional will order it wholesale if I let him know where to get it. Thank you for the reference articles, Ken. I noticed one of the big uses is as an herbal Viagra. No wonder it is so popular. Thanks for the help, M- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2000 Report Share Posted May 19, 2000 It is very interesting that both Piracetam and vin has the viagra effect .... both improves brain function under hypoxia, hence -- the brain may think that it is a 19 year old again due to the increase of oxygen/functionality... ;-) ... we have observed that both of our interests in such has greatly increased... Ameriden is the manufacturer Ameriden 760 728-0747, they will sell discounted to health professionals and co-ops that order on stationary... Their capsules are a little strange - because they are kosher capsules... just an fyi.. Glad to help - we are just librarians: pointing out the literatures (and what worked for us) - knowing that everyone is different and at different stages... we simply have recovered from brain fog so we can research better and faster... Ken Lassesen 2 @ 2 ft PWC, 2 @ 4ft PWC2 ft PWC: http://www.folkarts.com/idef/4 ft PWC: http://corgi.folkarts.com/Fax: (520) 832-6836 ICQ #: 2122097 (Netmeeting too) Re:rosavin - arctic root Ken and anybody else who uses this herb,Do you know of a good inexpensive, reputable source for thisherb? Wouldyou recommend nutrimart ?My health professional will order it wholesale if I let him know where toget it.Thank you for the reference articles, Ken.I noticed one of the big uses is as an herbal Viagra. No wonder it is sopopular.Thanks for the help,M- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2000 Report Share Posted May 19, 2000 Dear Ken, Can you tell me about any side effects from rosavin? What does it do? When you mention"brain fog" I assume you mean the cognitive disturbances of CFS. I dont seem to have them, but have many other symptoms. Do you know if it would do me any good and what tests I should have in order to see if it would be beneficial for me? Many thanks and thanks so much for all the information you give us. It's invaluable. Judy Baumel Re:rosavin - arctic root Ken and anybody else who uses this herb,Do you know of a good inexpensive, reputable source for thisherb? Wouldyou recommend nutrimart ?My health professional will order it wholesale if I let him know where toget it.Thank you for the reference articles, Ken.I noticed one of the big uses is as an herbal Viagra. No wonder it is sopopular.Thanks for the help,M- This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2000 Report Share Posted May 19, 2000 Primary purpose we looked at it was: *anticoagulant Secondary: * improvement of red blood cells (Streeten and Bell found that CFIDS (80-90%) had LOW red blood cell counts (as low of 50% of normal) -- hence we eat a lot of peanut butter and B12 (getting all of the essential components for red blood cell production) - our theory is that the coagulation destroys or damages the red blood cells, hence the low red blood cell count is a consequence of the coagulation (which is a result of the infection) ... ------ the best " test " is always whether it makes any improvement in you (but you have to be sufficiently methodolgical and observant) - things like a control pause (http://www.folkarts.com/idef/breathing.htm ), measuring your pulse after a regular walk (which you also time) or simple memory tests can be great ways of getting objective measurements... ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: " judy " <baumelj@...> Reply-egroups Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 18:55:35 +0200 >Dear Ken, >Can you tell me about any side effects from rosavin? What does it do? When you mention " brain fog " I assume you mean the cognitive disturbances of CFS. I dont seem to have them, but have many other symptoms. Do you know if it would do me any good and what tests I should have in order to see if it would be beneficial for me? >Many thanks and thanks so much for all the information you give us. It's invaluable. >Judy Baumel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2000 Report Share Posted May 19, 2000 Hi Judy, You asked about side affects of vin. The only contraindication that I've read is that at 800mg or more a day, a person could become irritable and have problems sleeping. Below that, it seems to be just fine and we haven't had any problems at all. Ken and I have been taking 300 mg per day (the recommended dose that we've seen)and occasionally taking 200mg in addition to that if we experience undue stress at some point (included in what we call our " stroke kit " - sounds awful, but it helps to have the stress relief stuff on hand always). Other than that, vin appears to be pretty much nontoxic, safer than Korean ginseng, even in high doses. It appears to be good for depression, stress, the heart, liver, blood sugar, hearing, immunity, recovery from exertion (for us that can be a walk in the park <g>) and hypoxia (in labs, rats handled induced hypoxia much better when given Arctic Root " Rhodiola Rosea " ). All that does seem to be almost too good to be true, but some things are. We got a lot of information from the book " Arctic Root " by Carl Germano, R.D. C.N.S. L.D.N. and Zakir Ramazanof, Ph.D. and it's about $5 US at Amazon I think. Ken has found some links to other reference material (I think he posted those) and it all seems very positive. I have been under considerable stress for the last 2 months, family politics that have gone ballistic occasionally, and the vin has been helpful, IMHO. Hope this helps, Laurie Lassesen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2000 Report Share Posted May 20, 2000 Dear Ken: What dosage do you start out on the Piracetam and vin and are they available at any store selling herbals? Are their any side effects? Thanks so much for your help. I'm new here. IN HIS LOVE, Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2000 Report Share Posted May 20, 2000 If you are in the US -- you will not get Piracetam at all (except from specialist [compounding] pharmacies with prescription) - it is NOT FDA approved... but if you are in europe, you will likely be able to walk into any pharmacy and get it over the counter... My source is Stanislava Mužíková <stanislava.muzikova@...> - who is on this list, she sends me a shipment each month well below the cost of my prior sources: http://www.folkarts.com/idef/pharmacies.htm (and below the US cost via a compounding pharmacy) Steve (also on this list) was the person who originally suggested Piracetam to me... vin (Rhodiola Rosea) is very new to the US health store scene (we have yet to see it at any of the stores we frequent)... so Internet is likely the easiest way to order Rhodiola for $11.99 for 60 capsules at: www.vitaminworld.com. IHS, Ken Lassesen 2 @ 2 ft PWC, 2 @ 4ft PWC2 ft PWC: http://www.folkarts.com/idef/4 ft PWC: http://corgi.folkarts.com/Fax: (520) 832-6836 ICQ #: 2122097 (also Netmeeting with Video) Re: Re:rosavin - arctic root Dear Ken: What dosage do you start out on the Piracetam and vin and are they available at any store selling herbals? Are their any side effects? Thanks so much for your help. I'm new here. IN HIS LOVE, Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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