Re: Re: Ken's Protocal Model

[Guest guest]

See http://www.folkarts.com/idef/piracetam.htm and

http://www.folkarts.com/idef/rosavin.htm

Working from a model of many of CFIDS symptoms being hypoxia (low oxygen) - I found piracetam and then Stansilovia revealed that she found that it made a major functional difference....

My wife found the rosavin(Rhodiola Rosea, Rose root, Golden Root and Arctic Root) when she followed up a suggestion from Luke on this list... when she read it helped hypoxia... (very few things do!) .... we ordered some to try... then a CFIDS friend mentioned that she has been taking it for years -- and whenever she ran out, she crashed hard....(it also explained why she was not 'brain fogged' as many CFIDSers are...). We are sold on it... it helps with handling stress greatly -- and that is very important for recovery...

-- our 17 year old daughter (no official CFIDS, just early warning signs) have responded very dramatically to both substances within minutes.

Side effects of Piracetam on some females is interesting - where it has been compared to viagra.... The most common is a 'stimulant' effect -- which arises from the increase oxygen flow and release...

Of course, any other substances that helps hypoxia is very much of interest to us...

Ken Lassesen 2 @ 2 ft PWC, 2 @ 4ft PWC2 ft PWC: http://www.folkarts.com/idef/4 ft PWC: http://corgi.folkarts.com/Fax: (520) 832-6836 ICQ #: 2122097 (Netmeeting too)

Ken's Protocal> > > Ken,> > I know in the past you laid out a daily protocal on the supplements > that you are taking. I have been unable to find your past post, > however, I am very interested. Could you assist me in getting this > information.> > Also, are any of the people in the group using this protocal and if > so what benefits have you experienced to date.> > Kind Regards,> > Bob R> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

[Guest guest]

Where do you buy piracetam and rosavin?

M. Louis

Ken's Protocal> > > Ken,> > I know in the past you laid out a daily protocal on the supplements > that you are taking. I have been unable to find your past post, > however, I am very interested. Could you assist me in getting this > information.> > Also, are any of the people in the group using this protocal and if > so what benefits have you experienced to date.> > Kind Regards,> > Bob R> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

[Guest guest]

I buy Piracetam from Stanislava Mužíková <stanislava.muzikova@...> (over the counter in the czech republic). She is on this list. She makes a small profit and I get it cheaper than the other internet sources...(see http://www.folkarts.com/idef/pharmacies.htm for other sources)

vin: Sold by ameridan -- available thru many online supplements shops//

See: http://www.naturalhealthconsult.com/_vti_bin/shtml.exe/Monographs/rosavin.html NHC sells bottles of 60 capsules of vin 100 mg for $16.95.

"It also increases hemoglobin and red blood cell levels "

"Increases blood supply to the brain and muscles."

"Muscle protein and glutamic acid (from L-Glutamine) are enhanced by vin"

"Immune stimulation. vin increases immune response while blocking the immune lowering effects of cortisol. In one animal experiment, natural killer cell activity increased with vin."

or http://www.2ameriden.com/products/rosavinframe.html - not sure who is the cheapest source....

I understand that it is also available as bulk powder...

(no financial interest in vin)

Ken Lassesen 2 @ 2 ft PWC, 2 @ 4ft PWC2 ft PWC: http://www.folkarts.com/idef/4 ft PWC: http://corgi.folkarts.com/Fax: (520) 832-6836 ICQ #: 2122097 (Netmeeting too)

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From: M. Louis Hanson

Where do you buy piracetam and rosavin?

[Guest guest]

Since it runs in the family why don't you get test for the genetic

hypercog factor

Steve

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