Guest guest Posted April 27, 2000 Report Share Posted April 27, 2000 I'v been reading up on immunology and what it means when we say we have an " overactive " immune system in CFIDS. The immune system is pretty complex, and my expertise is quite limited, but there are a couple of basic ideas which will help to understand what is going on with us. There are two " arms " of the immune system. Both arms use helper T cells (CD4s) to give the alert as to what kind of invader to attack, and killer T cells (CD8s) as the soldiers in the attack. Darga MD states: " Two different methods exist by which the body fights infections: humoral immunity (Th2) results in the production of antibodies to neutralize foreign invaders outside of the cells, while cellular immunity (Th1) directs Killer T-cells (CD8) to attack microorganisms or abnormal cells at the sites of infection inside the cells. " So we have these two arms of the immune system, one for killing invaders inside the cells, one optimised for killing invaders outside the cells. The type of immune disregulation found in CFIDS is an upregulation in Th2 (extracellular) immunity. Our helper T cells, the CD4's, are constantly pumping out messenger molecules called cytokines (antigens) that alert our bodies that we are under attack. One big problem in CFIDS is that we are trapped in the Th2 state, sending out the alarm for invaders that aren't there. While this arm of our immune system that protects against extracellular infection is in overdrive, the type of pathogens that we have problems with are primarily intracellular infections i.e. HHV6, CMV, C. Pneumonia, and mycoplasma. This shift in emphasis in the immune system is not unique to CFIDS. The failure of the Th1 arm of the immune system and an overactive Th2 arm is implicated in a wide variety of chronic illnesses. These include AIDS, CFIDS, Candidiasis, Multiple allergies, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities (MCS), viral hepatitis, Gulf War Syndrome (GWS) and cancer. The problem then becomes: " What can we do about it? " Which brings us first to Transfer Factor. Transfer factor is basically a highly concentrated form of Th1 cytokines. Our helper T cells are issuing instructions to the killer T cells to target pathogens that aren't there. The transfer factor provides our killer T cells with the information they need to target virus infected cells. Viruses that have been proliferating in our system largely because our bodies are mistakenly going after the wrong invaders. Not only that, the Th2 cytokines actually increase the replication rates of some viruses. So PWC's receive benefit not only from reducing the viral load of active pathogens, TF is also is effective in shifting the balance from Th2 to Th1 immunity. The downside is that this process takes several months and is fairly expensive, the upside is that many patients improve while using this therapy. The question remains: " What causes this shift from Th1 to Th2 in the first place? " This brings us back to our old pal Glutathione, which we have been discussing at length on this thread. For those new to the discussion, glutathione is the primary active ingredient in Immunopro. JD et al reports: " By using three different methods to deplete glutathione from T cell transgenic and conventional mice and studying in vivo and/or in vitro responses to three distinct antigens, we show that glutathione levels in antigen-presenting cells (helper T Cells) determine whether Th1 or Th2 response patterns predominate. " (1). 1. Proc Natl Acad Sci USA 1998 Mar 17;95(6):3071-6 In other words, low glutathione levels are perhaps the critical factor in what causes this shift in the first place. And Dr. Cheney states that in over 3000 cases of CFS he has treated, he has never seen one that did not test low for Glutathione. So the Immunopro may actually turn out to be a better way to target viruses than Transfer Factor. This is all in addition to the fact that glutathione is a powerful inhibitor of viral reproduction inside our cells and increases NK activity by 400%. NK cells could be called our first line of defense against virus infected cells and their effectiveness is enhanced by this switch from Th2 to Th1 states as well. Add this to the well known detoxing effects and the fact that Immunopro is about 15% immunoglobulins, the argument for taking it looks pretty strong. Immunoglobulins is another word for antigens. I don't know if these antigens favor Th1 or Th2 cytokine expression, but as they say on the stock discussion boards, I'm long on Immunopro. Luke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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