Re: Aerobic exercise -> damage

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- your million dollar question is a beauty! I look forward to

replies - but think the jury is out.

I am certain that aerobic exercise has some beneficial effects on me, and

equally certain it has some detrimental effects. What I really wonder

about is if the negative effects are long term or permanent, and thus do

they set us backwards on the path to recovery? I fear this is so, although

it will probably turn out to be complex as usual, as in - " exercise is

detrimental when it is accompanied by a lack of

glutathione/atp/dihydro-something-or-other in the

blood/intracellular/somewhere else " .

I cannot resist exercising, but fear that maybe I am damaging myself slowly.

n

At 15:38 25/05/00, you wrote:

>What are the theories on aerobic exercise causing 'damage' to the body in

>PWC's?

>

>I find on the whole I benefit from aerobic exercise, but it seems to make my

>annoying neuropathic sensations (tingling in palms of hands, in toes) worse;

>so I wonder if they are related at all.

n

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what do you call aerobic exercise. What percent of you max heart rate do

you achieve & how long do you stay at that level. Or are you just talking about

casual walking. Dr. Brewer argues

those who have the most coagulation problems also are the most vulnerable to

aerobic exercise. This makes sense but as usual I do not think there is any

research to back this statement up.

Steve

Lilienthal wrote:

> What are the theories on aerobic exercise causing 'damage' to the body in

> PWC's?

>

> I find on the whole I benefit from aerobic exercise, but it seems to make my

> annoying neuropathic sensations (tingling in palms of hands, in toes) worse;

> so I wonder if they are related at all.

>

> TIA,

>

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i know dr cheney theorizes it could cause permanent mitochondrial

damage, i wouldn't push the envelope. i also remember from somewhere -

i don't remember if it was from the cheney stuff carol transcribed for

us here or not - something about 1 minute of aerobic exercise - then 3

minutes of rest ? something like that . . .

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Lilienthal wrote: What are the theories on

aerobic exercise causing 'damage' to the body in

PWC's?

Annette's reply : Like everything about the DD it is

probably individual. I don't know what the theories

are, although, I have read something about it recently

in Cheney's stuff so take a look there.

In practice, took me 2 years to recover to my original

very sick level after a graded exercise problem which

featured aerobic exercise.

Currently aerobic exercise guarantees a relapse. I

was acute onset M.E.

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,

The only type of exercise that I am able to tolerate

now is walking, which I do for about 30 minutes a day.

If I do any aerobic exercise I usually have heart

palpitations into the next day, and have a crash

within 24 hours. My doctor believes this is caused by

my weak adrenals (I also have a mitral valve

prolapse). I used to be able to tolerate biking and

yoga but can't do this now due to a lumbar injury.

Best, Jennie

--- Lilienthal <spaceboy@...> wrote:

> What are the theories on aerobic exercise causing

> 'damage' to the body in

> PWC's?

>

> I find on the whole I benefit from aerobic exercise,

> but it seems to make my

> annoying neuropathic sensations (tingling in palms

> of hands, in toes) worse;

> so I wonder if they are related at all.

>

> TIA,

>

> -- spaceboy@... (david in NZ)

> // This slowly passing cloud is pitiful! // What

> dreamwalkers we all are!

> // Awakened, the one great truth: // Black rain on

> the temple roof.

>

>

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