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Tami,

Welcome home! I am glad that you had a great birthday. You deserve it!

Michele S.

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Welcome back sis :-)

God bless, Bonnie

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Welcome back Wanda,

Sandy

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From: "Wanda M.M." <atwork56@...>

Hi everyone! For the last 2 weeks, I've been without a computer. Well, its finally back. I'm still trying to reload all the info back into it, but at least I have my computer back.

I just wanted to thank everyone for all their help with all my many problems. Icky skin, slow inch loss, coughing fits when breathing, etc, etc. The many ideas and suggestions you all gave, helped in many ways, and the others I'm still trying.

My latest endeavor is to do the LL breath while lifting light weights. I do 3 breaths per exercise and I try to keep the movement going through the in and out breaths. Sometimes, I get so winded, that I can't maintain a constant movement, but I do my best. After about a week of this, I'll let you know how things are going.

Thank you all again for all your help and support.

Wanda

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Hi Wanda,

We missed you! We are so happy to have you back!

Rashelle

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I'm back

From: "Wanda M.M." <atwork56@...>

Hi everyone! For the last 2 weeks, I've been without a computer. Well, its finally back. I'm still trying to reload all the info back into it, but at least I have my computer back.

I just wanted to thank everyone for all their help with all my many problems. Icky skin, slow inch loss, coughing fits when breathing, etc, etc. The many ideas and suggestions you all gave, helped in many ways, and the others I'm still trying.

My latest endeavor is to do the LL breath while lifting light weights. I do 3 breaths per exercise and I try to keep the movement going through the in and out breaths. Sometimes, I get so winded, that I can't maintain a constant movement, but I do my best. After about a week of this, I'll let you know how things are going.

Thank you all again for all your help and support.

Wanda

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Welcome back Grammy Pat :-) As for Tami, she has left the list for awhile. She's OK, just weak. Needing rest and some tender loving care from I can understand. I'm sure Rashelle will inform you completely on this.

(((HUGS}}} & God bless, Bonnie

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Welcome Back Grammy Pat,

I am so glad you are back!!! We missed you.

I am tickled that you are back with such a strong commitment to your goals.

Thank you so much for sharing the messages of Life Lift. I will look forward to hearing from anyone you sent to me.

Last time I heard from Tami she had decided she needed to leave the lists to take care of her health. She was doing better, but her family felt she really needs to focus on healing herself. I think that is wise so we need to just leave her alone and let her heal.

I know that she is such a caring and giving soul that if she remained on the list she would want to help others, when she really needs to just focus on herself for now. I know that she had been so generous in offering her time and efforts to those who needed her and she was getting a lot of mail off the list. I don't think she was really up to handling that and was overdoing herself.

The best we can all do is let her rest, leave her to stay off the computer and just pray for her that she will be in perfect health soon.

I am so happy you are back filling the list with your positive energy.

Love,

Rashelle

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I had a wonderful time at the Carbaddict Convention in Orlando. I am back onmy plan with a vengeance. I also introduced a lot of new people to theLifelift idea so look out Rashelle.I had unsubscribed for the last week so I don't know what is going on butcan someone tell me how Tami is doing.GRAMMY PAT

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Rashelle,

You are more than welcome! Just let me know when you need help and I

will do my best!

Love,

Michele

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Hi Rashelle,

I

am glad to hear that you had a good weekend with your parents. I

am sure that they will like the Web TV. We sell a lot of that to

elderly folks at work. They love to keep in touch with their kids

through e-mail. It is a great alternative for them if they don't

want to purchase a home computer. I am sure that you will be busy

with catching up on things so take your time. It's good to hear from

you!

Love

ya,

Michele

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Hi ,

I am so glad you are back and going for it. You are a very special lady and you deserve to have all of the best.

Thank you so much for this sweet message. I truly appreciate your thoughtful love filled words.

Take care and be well,

Love,'

Rashelle

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First, Rashelle, I know all our hearts are full with love andsupport for what you are going through with your family. I am holdingyou close in mine

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>>I'm happy but

> a little nervous since I always screw up at this point. I've only made it

> to 30 pounds twice I think.

Oh, come on! If you can get Earthlink's tech support to actually help you

with a problem, you can lose thise weight!

> I went for over a week without exercising due to 10 consecutive days of

rain

> and a twisted ankle.

I hope it's feeling better now. Next time, just do some exercises from a

chair, or go to bed and do some old fashioned sit up's and leg lifts.

>If we have that many bad days in the future I can haul out the

> Nordic Track or do Tae Bo Gold.

(shudder) Tae bo?? You are *so* brave! LOL

>It was nice to be out in the sun

> after being cooped up inside for so long.

Another grey, gloomy, and rainy day here in Jersey today.

>This is the time of year when we

> usually can crawl out of our air conditioned houses to enjoy some pretty

> weather after the brutal summer.

We had maybe one week of fall weather then went straight into winter.

Usually we get at least 2 weeks of light jacket weather before we have to

switch to the winter coats.

> I've been screwing up some but getting right back on track.

This is all any of us can do.

> This weekend I'm leaving the kids and dh at home and driving 4 hours to

> Dallas to visit my sister. Wooooo hooooooo!

Have a great time! At least it gets you away from Halloween candy at the

most critical time.

> On Sat. we're going to the mother of all flea markets.

Haggle with a vendor for me. I miss going those flea markets. The only one

around here is still almost a 2 hour ride away and only open Saturdays in

summer. I haven't been there since Henry was a baby in a carriage and his

wheels kept getting stuck in the mud.

>I'm bummed that my weight loss excel

> spreadsheet is lost due to my crashed hard drive

Another good reason to keep a paper journal.

Sue in NJ

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> Hi,

> It just seems so hopeless when statistics show that only

> 3% of us will be successful. I can get off some weight and

greatly improve

The problem is this: how many people who have had WLS

actually somehow manage to gain the weight back by nibbling

on this, and that, and 'circumventing' the whole purpose of

having a smaller stomach? Lots!

> My doc is useless for weight loss. A while back she actually

told me " if

> you can't do Weight Watchers then I can't help you. " UGH! I'll

make an

> appointment with another doc to work with every month.

PFTS! Useless, indeed. Have you considered requesting that

you be sent to a registered dietician? (Granted, having seen one

myself, I don't have much faith in their advice as far as diabetics

go... but, for mostly healthy people, their advice may be more

appropriate).

> My insurance wants me to try Xenical, Meridia or phentermine.

Xenical just

> sounds gross and I worry about the other 2 since I have high

blood pressure

> and fast heart rate. The doc can write that up as a reason for

not trying

> the meds. I wouldn't mind trying Meridia otherwise. Has

anyone tried it?

> Has anyone with controlled high blood pressure tried it?

I've heard bad things about all of them. I forget what it was with

Meridia, though. You might try looking at medlineplus.gov under

their " Drug Information " link for info about the various meds. My

doc, too, wanted me to try phentermine. I'm not usually having

physical problems with appetite - it's all up here in my head 90%

of the time. What good is a pill going to do for THAT? Nada!

> I'm supposed to be on a " very low calorie diet. " What does that

mean? Is

> 1200 very low calorie? Lower?

Again, PFT. Shame on your doc for not explaining!

> I need to get in a serious exercise routine. We have a 24 Hour

Fitness

> center that is 1 mile away.

> I've never stepped foot in 24 Hour Fitness so I need to check it

out. I'll

> be in Savannah for a week, home for a week, guitar camp for a

week, home for

> a week, camping for a week then school will start. Whew! No

reason to join

> a gym until school starts since we won't be here. I have a 10

day coupon I

> can use when I start to try it out.

Hey, guess what! If you join 24-Hour Fitness and get the " All

Club " level, you can use ANY 24-Hour Fitness... so, if they have

one in Savannah... I'm a member in Round Rock, and I like it. I

use the pool, mostly. The music's a bit loud sometimes in the

weight room - but they do have an amazing array of equipment

out there. Afraid I don't know jack or squat about the Kid's Club.

> TODAY I WILL WALK ON THE TREADMILL!!!!! NO B.S. NO

EXCUSES!!!!! I'VE BEEN

> TELLING YOU THAT FOR MONTHS NOW AND I STILL

HAVEN'T DONE IT!!!! Why haven't

JUST DO IT! NOW! Get off the computer, go over there and take a

stroll - even if it's only 5-10 mins (I never could handle treadmills,

always give me shinsplints). SHOO! This is your

would-be-conscience speaking

>

> Insurance says I can try Weight Watchers while also being

under a doctor's

> care. I guess I need to join and try the Core program while

also counting

> calories on Fit Day to document everything.

If money's not a big obstical for you, and you're looking for

something balanced and convenient (For me, convenience is a

big part of why I gain weight!) I can recommend NutriSystem. I

don't know how it falls under insurance and/or tax refund rules,

etc. Overall, it runs about $270 or so for the pre-packaged meals.

You then add in small amounts of protein/dairy (I go through

about 1 24-pack of string cheese and 5 cups of yogurt every 2

weeks), LOTS of salad greens, and fresh fruits and vegetables.

Most of the food is good (With a few notable exceptions).

If you're interested in looking at more info, the website is

nutrisystem.com. If you're REALLY interested, I can send you a

coupon for $15 off your first order. They also have a " 50 Click "

program where by reading their Daily Dose (sorta like 's

message of the day) and clicking on an icon you can save $10

every 50 days.

The best part is absolutely NO real counting. A little measuring

here and there, but the program is a lot like the food-mover in

that you get a Diary with little circles to x out for each meal

indicating your entree, and then a circle for which add-ins you're

supposed to have with each meal.

Every 10 lbs you lose, they also send you a little beanie-baby

type bear I call them my $250 bears - heh.

> Ok ladies, let's get to work!

>

> Ann

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In a message dated 7/8/05 11:38:07 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, maryannanderic@... writes:

Insurance says I can try Weight Watchers while also being under a doctor'scare. I guess I need to join and try the Core program while also countingcalories on Fit Day to document everything.

Have you ever tried WW? They do also have flex. I have learned in the past year it is a doable program if you work it. You will not lose tons of weight because it is a lifestyle change. I dont remember how much you have to lose but I am glad the surgery thing did not work for you right now. I have been hearing a lot of negatives towards it lately. maybe just the sign of the times.

NH... Mom to Abby Liz 10/94 Anne 7/99

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From: <Jase4567@...>

> Have you ever tried WW?

Only about 20 times.

> I have learned in the past year it is a doable program if you work it.

There are many programs that are doable if you can work it! The problem

is that 97% of us can't stick to them. Yes, I agree that WW is a lot better

program than most but the failure rate is still dismally high.

> I dont remember how much you have to lose

I'm 5'2 " and I'm up to about 275 now.

> but I am glad the surgery thing did not work for you right now. I have

> been hearing a lot of negatives towards it lately.

I'm terribly depressed about it. It gave me hope that I could finally get

this weight off. I was so excited and hopeful.

Ann

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Ann --

I did a very low cal weight loss. (Was doing about 900 calories a day.) For 5 months last year I was on a medically supervised liquid fast. Dropped about 65 pounds in 5 months. Granted, when I started eating again -- some of the weight has come back. But that was to be expected. To be honest, the liquid fast was a lot easier to do than the eating has been. Once I got past the first two weeks it was not to tough to do. But after 5 months I was done -- not that I wanted to start eating again -- just didn't want to drink another one of those shakes!

For a couple of months when I started eating again I was on a very low dosage of phentermine. To help control the munchies, etc. It is not something I would want to be on long term. I took 1/2 a tab every morning. As prescribed by my physician. I am also diabetic & have high blood pressure.

If you want more information on the Very Low Cal -- check out www.bettermd.net. This is where I ordered my supplements from, etc. The medical director is a friend of mine -- and has been really encouraging. Doc Murdy would even be willing to call & chat with your doc about it if you would want him to.

My husband is wanting to do the liquid fast when he gets back from Africa (only 5 more days!). I will probably do it again with him -- it will be easier for him if I am doing it as well.

Next Monday I will see my weight loss doc again. Then on Friday I will see my dietitan & will have my first meeting with the clinical psychologist for some behavior modifaction. Should be an interesting week!

Would you want to do a treadmill challenge/accountability thing together? I need some help in that area as well. I'd be willing to work something out with you.

Dacia <><

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From: " Dacia " <DEReinke@...>

> For 5 months last year I was on a medically supervised liquid fast.

Dropped about 65 pounds in 5 months.

My insurance would accept that for the 6 month requirement but it just

doesn't make sense to me since you can't stay on it for the long term. When

you started eating solid food again was your appetite significantly reduced?

Might be worth a shot though.

>To be honest, the liquid fast was a lot easier to do than the eating has

been. Once I got past the first two weeks it was not to tough to do. But

after 5 months I was done -- not that I wanted to start eating again -- just

didn't want to drink another one of those shakes!

That's interesting. Thanks for sharing your experience. I'll talk to the

new doc week after next and see what he recommends.

>

> For a couple of months when I started eating again I was on a very low

dosage of phentermine. To help control the munchies, etc.

Did it help control the munchies?

>

> If you want more information on the Very Low Cal -- check out

www.bettermd.net. This is where I ordered my supplements from, etc. The

medical director is a friend of mine -- and has been really encouraging.

Doc Murdy would even be willing to call & chat with your doc about it if you

would want him to.

Thanks. I'll check out the website.

>

> My husband is wanting to do the liquid fast when he gets back from Africa

(only 5 more days!). I will probably do it again with him -- it will be

easier for him if I am doing it as well.

I think being in a village in Ghana would be a good weight loss plan. We

stayed in hotels as tourists of course. We got terribly ill a few times but

not a good weight loss method.

>

> Next Monday I will see my weight loss doc again. Then on Friday I will

see my dietitan & will have my first meeting with the clinical psychologist

for some behavior modifaction. Should be an interesting week!

Yes. Should be interesting. I had my first visit with a psychologist

yesterday. You'll be happy to know that I'm " free of psychopathology. "

A psych eval is an insurance requirement for surgery.

>

> Would you want to do a treadmill challenge/accountability thing together?

I'd love to. The problem is I have 3 more week long trips this summer. My

sister has a recumbent bike but I feel like my legs hit my belly so I'll

probably just walk this week. I'm taking the wheelchair for my mom (she can

walk but not long distances) but my sister is somewhat mobility impaired too

(7 foot surgeries). I can walk at night after the kids go to bed. My mom

and sister will be in the apartment to watch the kids and there is a small

lake in the complex I can walk around. Pushing my mom in the wheelchair is

good exercise, especially if she has a kid on each knee. Savannah is 10

degrees cooler than Houston too so it feels wonderful.

Gotta run. Still gotta pack. Had car trouble today so I wasted time taking

it to the shop. Right now we need to take the camper to storage since it's

been sitting in the driveway since last weekend's trip to the beach. Don't

wanna upset the deed restriction commitee. Our neighborhood is reasonable

but no reason to push it.

Ann

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----- Original Message -----

From: " SulaBlue " <sulablue2001@...>

> The problem is this: how many people who have had WLS

> actually somehow manage to gain the weight back by nibbling

> on this, and that, and 'circumventing' the whole purpose of

> having a smaller stomach? Lots!

15%. Quite a bit of difference from 97%. It's a tool that you have to work

hard to use.

> PFTS! Useless, indeed. Have you considered requesting that

> you be sent to a registered dietician?

Insurance won't pay for it unless I'm diabetic. If I thought it would help

I'd go in a second.

> doc, too, wanted me to try phentermine. I'm not usually having

> physical problems with appetite - it's all up here in my head 90%

> of the time. What good is a pill going to do for THAT? Nada!

If I felt full it would make this much easier. I never feel full. Well, I

did when I was pregnant. It was amazing how having a little head pressing

on my stomach made me feel full with a normal amount of food.

> Hey, guess what! If you join 24-Hour Fitness and get the " All

> Club " level, you can use ANY 24-Hour Fitness... so, if they have

> one in Savannah...

I'll check the price for all club vs. just the one near our house. It would

be nice for to use one near work on his lunch hour. It's just

impractical to start right now since I'll be out of town for 3 more week

long trips this summer.

> JUST DO IT! NOW! Get off the computer, go over there and take a

> stroll - even if it's only 5-10 mins

I DID!!!!! I walked for 30 min. at a slow 2 mph pace with a gentle 2.5

incline. Piece of cake. I can't find my heart monitor that goes with the

treadmill. That's ok though because right now I just need to start moving

on a consistent basis.

> If money's not a big obstical for you, and you're looking for

> something balanced and convenient

Money is a huge obstacle. WW is $44 per month, gym is $40 per month,

monthly weigh-ins with doc are $20 per month. That's $100 per month right

there. I did Nutrisystems long ago. It pissed me off having a tiny little

woman who has never been overweight a friggin day in her life and has

minimal training trying to counsel me. The food was gross back then too and

it was very expensive. If I was single I might try it for the convenience

but I have to feed my family so I have to buy lots of groceries and I can't

pay for Nutrisystem food as well. I've very glad it's working for you

though.

Ann

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> I'm back. My insurance won't pay for weight loss surgery until

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

ann: I am so sorry that you have had such a dissapointment. From a

later post you wrote it sounds like yuou've lost HOPE when you got the

news about the WLS and no $ for it!

Losing hope is tough. Your plans for exercise, eating in moderation,

and joining the gym in a couple months, they all sound very positive

and good " take care of you " steps. You always talk of fun, loving

activities in your life. I hope you can feel some joy and maybe even

some hope in the coming weeks

((((((( ann))))))

Faye

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> ----- Original Message -----

> I DID!!!!! I walked for 30 min. at a slow 2 mph pace with a gentle 2.5

> incline. Piece of cake. I can't find my heart monitor that goes with the

> treadmill. That's ok though because right now I just need to start moving

> on a consistent basis.

You GO GIRL!

> > If money's not a big obstical for you, and you're looking for

> > something balanced and convenient

>

> Money is a huge obstacle.

Trust me. I hear ya there. I *SO* hear ya there!

SulaBlue

> Ann

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In a message dated 7/8/05 5:45:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, maryannanderic@... writes:

I'm terribly depressed about it. It gave me hope that I could finally getthis weight off. I was so excited and hopeful.

From what I am told even the surgery you have to work the program. If you overeat you get sick is the only thing that a program would not work. My best advice to you that I could give is start over with a journal and see where your eating is off. Make better choices. Remember water and exercise. There is a program out there for you. Have you been to a dietician? I would love to find a nutrion class I could take. I know our hospital had one a while back I may look into it again.

NH... Mom to Abby Liz 10/94 Anne 7/99

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Ann --

When I started solid food again my appetite was significantly reduced. Still is, compaired to what it was.

The liquid fast is not something that I can do for a long time. But it gave me the jump start that I needed.

The phentermine did help with controlling how much I ate. My doc tells me it only works for a short amount of time -- can't remember how long it was. I took myself off of it. I took a very small dose. But I decided that I needed to learn how to eat right & find the exercise program that works for me -- didn't want the meds to become a crutch for me. That is kind of how I am feeling about the liquid fast right now. I need to learn how to do this in the "real world."

Let me know when you want to start a treadmill/exercise challenge/accountability thing. I will be traveling to Vancouver, BC for a week the first week of August -- and it will be difficult to maintain a regular exercise regime. Maybe we can start sometime the middle of August. We can get started making it a habit before school starts & schedules/routines get changed again!

Dacia <><

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Good luck ..I am also starting tomorrow I figure August 1st a

Monday good time to start....

> Well I'm back again... Just got back from vacation we were

supposed to go to Florida but my uncle got hit by hurricane Dennis

so at the last minute we decided to go home to boston to visit my

family... We were gone just about 2 weeks.. I had a great time I

miss my family so much... Layed out in the sun got sunburnt but

thats ok went swimming a few times in my moms pool... Went to

foxwoods with my dad didnt win any money but had a good time..

>

> While I was home I realized that I really need to lose this weight

I can't believe I have gotten so big.. my mom wanted me to visit one

of my old high school friends and I just couldnt do it.. since high

school I have gained easily 100 lbs and I just couldnt bring myself

to go see her.. My mom had these chairs on her porch and my butt was

so big I couldnt even sit in them I had to get a chair from the

kitchen or sit on her steps.. I was so embaressed... but maybe that

was a good thing it got me to realize that I do not want to be this

way forever.. I got alot of exercise in at home and didnt eat as

much.

>

> So.. starting tomorrow Monday Aug 1st, for the month of Aug this

is my plan... no fast food, drinking only water, diet sodas or 100%

fruit juices, and to exercise 4x a week minimum. Its funny, I know

all the things to do exercise eat right eat more fruits and veggies

but for some reason I still dont do it.. hopefully this time things

will change.. I am going to take it day by day. The kids start back

to school Friday Aug 5th so I need to get on some kind of routine

they really need to concentrate on school more they both can do so

much better than they have been so I am going to get more involved

with their school work. I don't know how often I will be able to

post but I will try to check in weekly on my day off on Thursdays...

Thanks for listening

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Start your day with - make it your home page

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WOW nice vacation to go home to family. And you were having home sick blues there a while back. How is your little sister doing? Did you get a chance to drive threw Beverly and see all the changes. Music theatre burned down a bit back. Aug 1st great time to start over. Why the kids going back so soon? Ours go back Sept 1.

NH... Mom to Abby Liz 10/94 Anne 7/99

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Welcome back Terasee.

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smaller clothes - woo hoo!!!! and mini vaca's rock! Glad you had a chance to spend time with Jay Live, Love, Laugh

I'm back

Hi folks,

I am back from my mini-vacation. It was nice to get to rest and relax (again) with Jay. He loved it here in my home city/state this time, so that's cool. I'm a spoiled girl - he took me out shopping one day and bought me a few outfits. That was fun, cuz as scarey as it is I was able to buy smaller clothes. Told me he approves of Curves (LOL) and is going to give me the $ to pay for a few months worth of it. That is cool!! Anyway, I am supposed to have my weigh/measure this next week - we'll see how I feel coming off TOM. Hope you all had a great weekend and I'll touch base again soon -

..

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Welcome Back . I am glad you are feeling better.

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