UPDATE

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This is a link to pictures of Amy Winehouse, whom some suspect has

the " cousin " , Morgellons. Click on the picture of her arm to enlarge

and you'll see several large scratches. They really are bigger and

more prominent than most get, but it will give you an idea:

http://socialitelife.celebuzz.com/archive/2008/03/24/amy_winehouse_to_

clear_up_her_skin_with_pee.php

> >

> > The streaks have stopped but I have switched my diet back to

> > normal...kind of mainly limited sugar, carbs, and no fruit. I

feel a

> > lot less of them but am still getting bitten; not as bad as I

used to

> > though. It sucks because the weather here is totally on there

favor

> > right now. One thing that I have adapted, which sounds stupid, is

> > walking around in plastic bags on my feet. It seems to have made

a

> > big difference. I have yet to see black and white specks but then

> > again I'm not really looking. My apartment and bed still remain a

> > problem. I've switched to 50/50 ammonia and water spray when I

leave,

> > windex is getting too expensive.

> > My throat has gotten worse and my ears. My left one is clogged

with

> > something. I think I put too much crap in it. I'm laying off it

for

> > a while. I'm going to a sauna tonight to hoping to help out the

> > situation.

> > The good news is I sat through a whole movie without being

bothered.

> > I'm confused on the direction things are going but guess I will

find

> > out in a couple of weeks.

> >

>

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> >

> > Does anyone have a picture of the red streaks? I found some streaks

I was told that link didn't work - this one should:

http://www.morgellons-uk.net/?p=388

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Bessie

Wow that was a crazy link, I wonder if its not a product of photo

shop......

As for the scratches, they are out of control long and dark and deep

looking....your right about your observation of them.

I have a tone of photos of my arms when I was getting them...I dont

know how to post it though....

Anyway back onto Amy Winehouse.....I have read about a connection

between morgellons and cocaine....and that its possible it may be

linked to its use....and from drug abussers also spreads to the

general population......I mean you often hear about people on Meth

that feel like things are crawling and biting them, and they also

often have sores.....makes me wonder......

There are a lot of meth users here in Idaho....I have seen a lot of

people walking around covered in sores too.....perhaps its because I

look now.....

HOw are you doing anyway Bessie friend? Hope things are rolling

along well at your end....I heard you mention in a post that you

felt a bit crawly one day.....are you still doing OK?

z

> > >

> > > Does anyone have a picture of the red streaks? I found some

streaks

>

> I was told that link didn't work - this one should:

>

> http://www.morgellons-uk.net/?p=388

>

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>

> Bessie

> Wow that was a crazy link, I wonder if its not a product of photo

> shop......

> As for the scratches, they are out of control long and dark and

deep

> looking....your right about your observation of them.

> I have a tone of photos of my arms when I was getting them...I dont

> know how to post it though....

> Anyway back onto Amy Winehouse.....I have read about a connection

> between morgellons and cocaine....and that its possible it may be

> linked to its use....and from drug abussers also spreads to the

> general population......I mean you often hear about people on Meth

> that feel like things are crawling and biting them, and they also

> often have sores.....makes me wonder......

> There are a lot of meth users here in Idaho....I have seen a lot of

> people walking around covered in sores too.....perhaps its because

I

> look now.....

>

> HOw are you doing anyway Bessie friend? Hope things are rolling

> along well at your end....I heard you mention in a post that you

> felt a bit crawly one day.....are you still doing OK?

>

Hi, Z!!

That went on for 2 days, VERY minor - wouldn't have paid attention to

it in " the old days " . Then it occured to me that it MIGHT

be " normal " for rainy hot FL, that there might actually be little

critters of one kind or another. So after pulling everything off the

mattress, I sprayed Orange Guard on the bed, then put the newly

laundered bedding over it. I even sprayed my pillow, but it smelled

so I washed it the following day.

It took care of the little problem! It's so hard to distinguish

normal from this weird stuff!

Amy Winehouse is a notorious druggie not expected to live long

because of the damage she has done to her lungs from smoking crack.

Her publicist says her facial lesions are impetigo, but no comment on

the scratches. The pictures are real - there are others if you surf

the net - poor thing is a train wreck. Many meth addicts have self-

inflicted sores from scratching at the " meth bugs " . Unlike ours,

THEIR'S are delusional....never thought I'd say something like that!!!

Bessie

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Bessie'

So glad to hear you just had that for a couple of days....I need to

look into some orange oil....I'd like to treat my environment with

something once a month or so.....I tried spraying epsome salt and

baking soda around.....a bit too messy when its just a maintance

thing.....anyway I am SO glad you are not suffering a relaps from

the creepy 'mites'.

Wow, so those are real pics of Amy winehouse, well it looks a bit

suspect to me, like she may just have this thing.

Thanks for the 'meth bugs' explanation.....gosh, that in and of

itself would be enough to make a person fight drug addiction you

would think......I have always thought it would be so wonderful if

this were a dillusion....we should have been so lucky!

hugs

z

> >

> > Bessie

> > Wow that was a crazy link, I wonder if its not a product of

photo

> > shop......

> > As for the scratches, they are out of control long and dark and

> deep

> > looking....your right about your observation of them.

> > I have a tone of photos of my arms when I was getting them...I

dont

> > know how to post it though....

> > Anyway back onto Amy Winehouse.....I have read about a

connection

> > between morgellons and cocaine....and that its possible it may

be

> > linked to its use....and from drug abussers also spreads to the

> > general population......I mean you often hear about people on

Meth

> > that feel like things are crawling and biting them, and they

also

> > often have sores.....makes me wonder......

> > There are a lot of meth users here in Idaho....I have seen a lot

of

> > people walking around covered in sores too.....perhaps its

because

> I

> > look now.....

> >

> > HOw are you doing anyway Bessie friend? Hope things are rolling

> > along well at your end....I heard you mention in a post that you

> > felt a bit crawly one day.....are you still doing OK?

> >

>

> Hi, Z!!

> That went on for 2 days, VERY minor - wouldn't have paid attention

to

> it in " the old days " . Then it occured to me that it MIGHT

> be " normal " for rainy hot FL, that there might actually be little

> critters of one kind or another. So after pulling everything off

the

> mattress, I sprayed Orange Guard on the bed, then put the newly

> laundered bedding over it. I even sprayed my pillow, but it

smelled

> so I washed it the following day.

> It took care of the little problem! It's so hard to distinguish

> normal from this weird stuff!

>

> Amy Winehouse is a notorious druggie not expected to live long

> because of the damage she has done to her lungs from smoking

crack.

> Her publicist says her facial lesions are impetigo, but no comment

on

> the scratches. The pictures are real - there are others if you

surf

> the net - poor thing is a train wreck. Many meth addicts have

self-

> inflicted sores from scratching at the " meth bugs " . Unlike ours,

> THEIR'S are delusional....never thought I'd say something like

that!!!

> Bessie

>

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zmooks,

The Orange Guard is a good non-toxic insecticide product, but it

leaves a somewhat sticky residue. It is, however, cheaper than Best

Yet, at $35 per gallon. I use it in and around my drains.

myrtle

> > >

> > > Bessie

> > > Wow that was a crazy link, I wonder if its not a product of

> photo

> > > shop......

> > > As for the scratches, they are out of control long and dark and

> > deep

> > > looking....your right about your observation of them.

> > > I have a tone of photos of my arms when I was getting them...I

> dont

> > > know how to post it though....

> > > Anyway back onto Amy Winehouse.....I have read about a

> connection

> > > between morgellons and cocaine....and that its possible it may

> be

> > > linked to its use....and from drug abussers also spreads to the

> > > general population......I mean you often hear about people on

> Meth

> > > that feel like things are crawling and biting them, and they

> also

> > > often have sores.....makes me wonder......

> > > There are a lot of meth users here in Idaho....I have seen a lot

> of

> > > people walking around covered in sores too.....perhaps its

> because

> > I

> > > look now.....

> > >

> > > HOw are you doing anyway Bessie friend? Hope things are rolling

> > > along well at your end....I heard you mention in a post that you

> > > felt a bit crawly one day.....are you still doing OK?

> > >

> >

> > Hi, Z!!

> > That went on for 2 days, VERY minor - wouldn't have paid attention

> to

> > it in " the old days " . Then it occured to me that it MIGHT

> > be " normal " for rainy hot FL, that there might actually be little

> > critters of one kind or another. So after pulling everything off

> the

> > mattress, I sprayed Orange Guard on the bed, then put the newly

> > laundered bedding over it. I even sprayed my pillow, but it

> smelled

> > so I washed it the following day.

> > It took care of the little problem! It's so hard to distinguish

> > normal from this weird stuff!

> >

> > Amy Winehouse is a notorious druggie not expected to live long

> > because of the damage she has done to her lungs from smoking

> crack.

> > Her publicist says her facial lesions are impetigo, but no comment

> on

> > the scratches. The pictures are real - there are others if you

> surf

> > the net - poor thing is a train wreck. Many meth addicts have

> self-

> > inflicted sores from scratching at the " meth bugs " . Unlike ours,

> > THEIR'S are delusional....never thought I'd say something like

> that!!!

> > Bessie

> >

>

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Thanks trulyblest and everyone else who shared their suggestions. Here is an update of my results. -The CO2 treatment to the cars worked like a charm! I am no longer bit in our cars! We also did the POD with all our appliances, books, DVD's etc inside. Mike liked it so much he bought a regulator and tank that we can refill for $13 a shot whenever we need to do it again. -The house-baking didn't go as well because our house is 2500 sq ft and the generators kept turning themselves off. We got the front of the house and upstairs open portion to about 140 for an hour or two, but the back of the house never got above 110 and Mike said the bedrooms didn't get very hot. However I noticed a big difference with no biting in most areas, which counts a lot for me. I am vacuuming as much as I can to keep on top of them. -I love the oil treatment and the Pau Pau lotion on my skin because they stop the biting during the day. The latter seems to make the mites come to the top of the skin as dirt that I can rub off easily. I rubbed a lot of them out of my feet while the house was baking. I am not sure they are dead, though, so I might be spreading them if I am not careful where I do that. -I am still bothered by crawling and biting when I go to bed. I have racked my brain to see what I am missing, but when we went to stay at a motel the night of the baking it became obvious. I am infested and carry them with me wherever I go. Even Mike felt the crawling when we shared a bed that night, although they are not biting him yet. The crawling was so bad last night, even after the Elimite and my other skin treatments. I didn't think the bleach and epsom salt therapy worked for me, but now I am willing to try again. Rita, if you would be so kind as to repeat the steps. I think I missed the Dawn pre-step when I tried it. -The Aquaphor works great to catch them in my nose (but it is so gross to see them in the mornings) however the mites in my ears became much worse and I had bunches of patches of black spots on my pillows and a splitting headache. I tried dipping cotton balls in isopropyl alcohol and putting them in my ears late last night and I felt much beter and the headache went away. I hope that doesn't do long term damage to my ears. What is the 10% b.. solution that has been mentioned for ears? -I am still doing the garlic pills and Paragone cleanse, but I think it is the teaspoons of salt that are really cleaning me out inside and making me run to the bathroom so often. I do think this is essential though and changing my internal ph, to keep me from catching them back once I get rid of this. All in all, life is pretty great during the days but hell at night. Hope this information helps others. With love,Pamela--- trlyblest@... wrote:From: "trlyblest" <trlyblest@...>bird mites Subject: Re: Pamela - Help for hair, nose and ears?Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:14:06 -0000Pamela,For the sore behind your ear, try putting some type of triple antibiotic ointment on it for a few days, like NeoSporin or another generic brand. Worked for me. :)The Aquaphor is not mentholated. That's where the Listerine comes in.First...Try rinsing out your sinuses with a saline solution or saline nasal spray. Then w/a q-tip, swab the inside of your nose with the Aquaphor. Then gargle with Listerine. Repeat this 2 or 3 X a day. You can also take a syringe w/o the needle attached, put warm water in it to flush out your ears. My Dr. showed me how to do that. Simple... and It felt pretty good. Just be sure to tilt your head so that all of the water drains out. Then apply the Aquaphor. Don't put the Aquaphor down in the ear too far. Apply just enough "goo" so that the devils will get caught in it either by exit or entrance. Rinse out the eyes with any type of eye drops. Frito recommends Visine, while I had my best luck using Thera Tears. Rita used bleach to get them off of her eyelashes. Rinse. (I wasn't brave enough to try that!) Then slather the "goo" around the eyes. Whatever you do... DON'T STOP doing this. Keep at it. I had to do this for months before we finally whipped them! Of course we modified the poducts used. When we first came down with this, Vasoline was the only thing I could think of. Then suggested Aquaphor... turned out it 'tis a much better product!! I also kept a bottle of liquid hand sanitizer handy at all times and if I felt them on my scalp, I would put a couple of squirts on my fingertips and massage it in. Worked like a charm. Stopped 'em dead. I also used the Licemeister comb to massage my scalp after I washed my hair. This pulled out alot of stuff so that I could treat the bites that I used to have. For those I put Neosporin directly on the bites for a few days as well. How are the oils working for pulling the black specs off of your body? Still having success? Have you tried the Epsom salts on your skin yet? Some folks have had great success using the salts. Is the cleanse you're on working? Let us know how you're really doing overall...Hugs!

[Guest guest]

It sounds like you are making progress!

Whatever you do... don't stop doing what you are doing!

Different things work for different people.

Find what works best for you and stay with it.

Hang in there. You're on your way to being bug free!

Hugs!

[Guest guest]

Hi Pamela,

I'm glad you're doing better and that the paw paw helps. I have even kept the paw paw on my skin where I feel the itching all night.

louFrom: "trlyblest" <trlyblest (DOT) com>bird mitesSubject: Re: Pamela - Help for hair, nose and ears?Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:14:06 -0000

Pamela,For the sore behind your ear, try putting some type of triple antibiotic ointment on it for a few days, like NeoSporin or another generic brand. Worked for me. :)The Aquaphor is not mentholated. That's where the Listerine comes in.First...Try rinsing out your sinuses with a saline solution or saline nasal spray. Then w/a q-tip, swab the inside of your nose with the Aquaphor. Then gargle with Listerine. Repeat this 2 or 3 X a day. You can also take a syringe w/o the needle attached, put warm water in it to flush out your ears. My Dr. showed me how to do that. Simple... and It felt pretty good. Just be sure to tilt your head so that all of the water drains out. Then apply the Aquaphor. Don't put the Aquaphor down in the ear too far. Apply just enough "goo" so that the devils will get caught in it either by exit or entrance. Rinse out the eyes with any type of eye drops.

Frito recommends Visine, while I had my best luck using Thera Tears. Rita used bleach to get them off of her eyelashes. Rinse. (I wasn't brave enough to try that!) Then slather the "goo" around the eyes. Whatever you do... DON'T STOP doing this. Keep at it. I had to do this for months before we finally whipped them! Of course we modified the poducts used. When we first came down with this, Vasoline was the only thing I could think of. Then suggested Aquaphor... turned out it 'tis a much better product!! I also kept a bottle of liquid hand sanitizer handy at all times and if I felt them on my scalp, I would put a couple of squirts on my fingertips and massage it in. Worked like a charm. Stopped 'em dead. I also used the Licemeister comb to massage my scalp after I washed my hair. This pulled out alot of stuff so that I could treat the bites that I used to have. For those I put

Neosporin directly on the bites for a few days as well. How are the oils working for pulling the black specs off of your body? Still having success? Have you tried the Epsom salts on your skin yet? Some folks have had great success using the salts. Is the cleanse you're on working? Let us know how you're really doing overall...Hugs!

[Guest guest]

Pamela. You may have already read this, but what helped me was buying the twin size air mattress from the camping section in Walmart for $10. I just rinse it every day in the tub with the water hose thing. It takes no time at all. Even though I put 2 vinyl covers on my mattress and 2 on my box springs, I was still getting bit up in bed. I used to bleach/water the vinyl covers every day, too. It was awful. So, I haven't used a real bed in over a year now. The air mattress is not that comfortable, but it is better than getting bites all night and morning.I'm glad the co2 worked for you in the car. That is good news. I am using co2 for my phones, too, and my laptop, just using big hefty zip bags.MelFrom: "trlyblest" <trlyblest (DOT) com>bird mitesSubject: Re: Pamela - Help for hair, nose and ears?Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:14:06 -0000

Pamela,For the sore behind your ear, try putting some type of triple antibiotic ointment on it for a few days, like NeoSporin or another generic brand. Worked for me. :)The Aquaphor is not mentholated. That's where the Listerine comes in.First...Try rinsing out your sinuses with a saline solution or saline nasal spray. Then w/a q-tip, swab the inside of your nose with the Aquaphor. Then gargle with Listerine. Repeat this 2 or 3 X a day. You can also take a syringe w/o the needle attached, put warm water in it to flush out your ears. My Dr. showed me how to do that. Simple... and It felt pretty good. Just be sure to tilt your head so that all of the water drains out. Then apply the Aquaphor. Don't put the Aquaphor down in the ear too far. Apply just enough "goo" so that the devils will get caught in it either by exit or entrance. Rinse out the eyes with any type of eye drops.

Frito recommends Visine, while I had my best luck using Thera Tears. Rita used bleach to get them off of her eyelashes. Rinse. (I wasn't brave enough to try that!) Then slather the "goo" around the eyes. Whatever you do... DON'T STOP doing this. Keep at it. I had to do this for months before we finally whipped them! Of course we modified the poducts used. When we first came down with this, Vasoline was the only thing I could think of. Then suggested Aquaphor... turned out it 'tis a much better product!! I also kept a bottle of liquid hand sanitizer handy at all times and if I felt them on my scalp, I would put a couple of squirts on my fingertips and massage it in. Worked like a charm. Stopped 'em dead. I also used the Licemeister comb to massage my scalp after I washed my hair. This pulled out alot of stuff so that I could treat the bites that I used to have. For those I put

Neosporin directly on the bites for a few days as well. How are the oils working for pulling the black specs off of your body? Still having success? Have you tried the Epsom salts on your skin yet? Some folks have had great success using the salts. Is the cleanse you're on working? Let us know how you're really doing overall...Hugs!

[Guest guest]

Pamela

The first time we heated up our house we didnt reach the right temp

either....I also noticed an improvement anyway.....

So do you think you will do it again, a week apart? Are you using

propane tanks? when you said the generator kept switching

off.....what does that mean?

I know if you use too small of a propane tank they will freeze up on

you as the pressure drops too rapidly. The right equipment is KEY, we

brought our own propane tanks and they were too weak, we should have

just rented everything right from the start.

Anyway I just wanted to tell you that I felt the biting while I was

away from the house heat treating too.....but eventually you will

catch up with those ones too.....we used rays protocol of ivermectin

internal, and listerine showers....it sounds like you are doing ritas

protocol again, which will do the trick too....to get them off your

body.

Just wanted to encourage you a little by letting you know that we

didnt reach the right temp first time around (trial and error really)

I felt the biting while we were away from the house, just like you

and we did notice improvement after the first time and the improvement

only got longer lasting with perfection of the heating and working to

get them off of us. Its a struggle, but you may just be a lot closer

than you realise. It only took 3 times for the mites to be gone for

us....and the first time was a bit of a flop too.

z

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Z, Thanks so much for your encouragement. Mike wasn't planning to rent them again; he thought we could control it by vacuuming since we don't have carpet, and by doing CO2 treatments of computers, books, and papers in our cars. Did you have carpet?Do you think it's important to do it again? Many thanks again,P~--- zuleikahwalker@... wrote:From: "zmooks" <zuleikahwalker@...>bird mites Subject: Re: UpdateDate: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:14:29 -0000PamelaThe first time we heated up our house we didnt reach the right temp either....I also noticed an improvement anyway.....So do you think you will do it again, a week apart? Are you using propane tanks? when you said the generator kept switching off.....what does that mean?I know if you use too small of a propane tank they will freeze up on you as the pressure drops too rapidly. The right equipment is KEY, we brought our own propane tanks and they were too weak, we should have just rented everything right from the start.Anyway I just wanted to tell you that I felt the biting while I was away from the house heat treating too.....but eventually you will catch up with those ones too.....we used rays protocol of ivermectin internal, and listerine showers....it sounds like you are doing ritas protocol again, which will do the trick too....to get them off your body.Just wanted to encourage you a little by letting you know that we didnt reach the right temp first time around (trial and error really)I felt the biting while we were away from the house, just like youand we did notice improvement after the first time and the improvement only got longer lasting with perfection of the heating and working to get them off of us. Its a struggle, but you may just be a lot closer than you realise. It only took 3 times for the mites to be gone for us....and the first time was a bit of a flop too.z

[Guest guest]

It was nice to hear your update Joy, I missed hearing about , and all the

wise advice you would give us :-)    Glad she is doing well, my Olivia is

beginning full-day kindergarten in a week, and I am feeling like I will be

missing her, but I know she will be happy to see all of her friends again - and

I do get a break!

Patty in Ohio

From: Joy Tesmer <jtesmner799@...>

Subject: Update

" Joy Tesmer " <jtesmner799@...>, linman42@...,

, DS_Teens_Plus

Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 4:01 AM

Hi all

Long time no post.

Life can be pretty busy around here. ANyway we have

decided to have continue in her current school

setting for at least another 2 or 3 yrs. She can go up

until she is 21, and evidently can finish out the school

year the year she turns 21 so we still have time to make

some decisions on what to do following school. At this

time there are no group homes around here that have staff

who use ASL. (she does speak but for communicatin with

those who don't understand her sign works much better

since she has very limited verbal language). We are

thinking of possible placement in a home in the city that

she currently attends school in since they do have the

states deaf school so have a large deaf population, thus

would also have the communication support needed.

She is still attends MSAD as a residential student during

the school year, going up on Monday morning and returning

friday after noon. This works well for us. IT was of

course a very hard decision to make but she really is very

happy with her life there. It's funny cause when we do

take her up she really doesn't want us tohang around to

long. (an independent thing ya know.lol)

She attended prom this year and had a blast. Her and her

date did return to the dorm early, by that I mean they

didn't stay at the rec center til 4 am but returned a

couple hrs before that. I will try to remember to post a

pic. of her all dressed up. It will be just her tho.

Last school year she worked at Bostons (a pizza place I

guess) wrapping the silverware. She also continued to

help with the recycling for school. Most of the kids in

her class (called the NEST) like to do the shredding so

it's a popular job. They also continued to make bird

houses to sell as fund raisers.

This summer she attended the summer program and continues

to ride motorcycle with us. Up until the beginning of

July she still only rode with her Dad on his old Venture.

I never took her because I don't take passenegers on two

wheels. In July we finally bit the bullet and bought a

three wheeled motorcycle. It's something I've been trying

to get her dad to get for about 3 yrs now. She loves it.

She can also take a nap back there and we don't have to

worry about her falling off. I have also been doing all

the driving on this recently, mostly cause I broke my

thumb at work and it's easier to ride the Trike, so hubby

has finally got to ride his own bike alot for the first

time in about 4 yrs.

just had her physical and is doing great. She does

have an upcoming echo and eye exam and then we are through

for the year. She will continue on her thyroid meds,just

waiting to hear if the dosage needs to be changed.

That's about it. She does enjoy her nieces and nephew.

Cailyn just turned 3 yrs old and Mackenzie and Cameron

are now 7 months old so beginning to be alot of fun.

Hope all are meeting their challenges and enjoying life.

Joy and (18, ds)

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Frito,Were you tested from Igenex?Did u see a lyme dr? Are you gonna start treatmnent?F. Update

I haven't been posting much, but I do have an update. I have finally gotten a hold of my WB results in which would seem to be a positive for Lyme. I was not tested for co-infections but I and especially my son have every skin symptom associated with Bartonella. The striations, the red dots in linear lines, freckle appearance, mole appearance, etc. So from bird mites to this.....Best to all......Frito

[Guest guest]

I was actually tested as a favor to me by one of my physicians and good friend in which I worked for. It was through Labcorp and from what I understand, if LabCorp can pick it up, in which they usually don't, then it is pretty much a good indicator of a positive. Because the testing was a favor to me, I was not tested for co-infections, but as I said earlier, my son and I have just about every skin manifestation of Bartonella. I am unable to see a Lyme doc so I am relegated to treat this on my own, and yes, I have been treating.....Frito

Update

I haven't been posting much, but I do have an update. I have finally gotten a hold of my WB results in which would seem to be a positive for Lyme. I was not tested for co-infections but I and especially my son have every skin symptom associated with Bartonella. The striations, the red dots in linear lines, freckle appearance, mole appearance, etc. So from bird mites to this.....Best to all......Frito

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Frito

I havent been posting much either (we just moved house)

anyway I am going to do a search on Bartonella.

As just yesterday I got the dots in a line on my arm again (this is

how the entire ordeal began in the first place) Still no mites, but

I have a feeling there is still much work to be done....thanks for

listing out those symptoms as they are identical to ours and now I

can go do a good search of the internet

thanks!!!

>

> Frito,

> Were you tested from Igenex?

> Did u see a lyme dr? Are you gonna start treatmnent?

> F.

>

>

>

> Update

>

>

> I haven't been posting much, but I do have an update. I have

finally gotten a hold of my WB results in which would seem to be a

positive for Lyme. I was not tested for co-infections but I and

especially my son have every skin symptom associated with

Bartonella. The striations, the red dots in linear lines, freckle

appearance, mole appearance, etc. So from bird mites to

this.....Best to all......Frito

>

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I just mentioned bartonella to my hubby and that is the name of the

parasite the naturopath mentioned all those months ago....he just

forgot the name until he heard it now. Thanks frito, interesting stuff

hope you and your son are constantly improving!!!

>

> I haven't been posting much, but I do have an update.  I have

finally gotten a hold of my WB results in which would seem to be a

positive for Lyme..  I was not tested for co-infections but I and

especially my son have every skin symptom associated with Bartonella. 

The striations, the red dots in linear lines, freckle appearance, mole

appearance, etc.  So from bird mites to this.....Best to all......Frito

>

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Hi Z....

I actually thought about you and a few others here. I posted to the forum because I believe it is important for some of us to realize there may very well be more than just birdmites going on. I have a lot of research I have worked on, I could forward it to you if you would like it, or anybody else if they are interested. Send me a p.m. and I will add you to my list. Z, there is a source I would like to recommend to you and is absolutely indespensible concerning bartonella. It is a book by Dr. Schaller titled Bartonella: Diagnosis and Treatment. For Bartonella concerns, it is the best 35.00 I have ever spent. You can get it at the PubMed website. Many blessings to all.......Frito

Re: Update

I just mentioned bartonella to my hubby and that is the name of the parasite the naturopath mentioned all those months ago....he just forgot the name until he heard it now. Thanks frito, interesting stuffhope you and your son are constantly improving!!!>> I haven't been posting much, but I do have an update. I have finally gotten a hold of my WB results in which would seem to be a positive for Lyme.. I was not tested for co-infections but I and especially my son have every skin symptom associated with Bartonella. The striations, the red dots in linear lines, freckle appearance, mole appearance, etc. So from bird mites to this.....Best to

all......Frito>

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Good Frito, Shaller is one of the best lyme dr and co infections. For sure, bartonella is is these mites, but probably lyme and other infections too, as i have. But i know and understand u can't all afford the tests and lyme treatment. So the herbs that Shaller advice can be a good alternative. Re: Update

I just mentioned bartonella to my hubby and that is the name of the parasite the naturopath mentioned all those months ago....he just forgot the name until he heard it now. Thanks frito, interesting stuffhope you and your son are constantly improving!!!>> I haven't been posting much, but I do have an update. I have finally gotten a hold of my WB results in which would seem to be a positive for Lyme.. I was not tested for co-infections but I and especially my son have every skin symptom associated with Bartonella. The striations, the red dots in linear lines, freckle appearance, mole appearance, etc. So from bird mites to this.....Best to

all......Frito>

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Frito

I would really really appreciate anything that you can forward.

Yes its been a strange road.....I agree with you that it wasnt

only 'mites' in our case.....

Z

> >

> > I haven't been posting much, but I do have an update.  I have

> finally gotten a hold of my WB results in which would seem to be a

> positive for Lyme..  I was not tested for co-infections but I and

> especially my son have every skin symptom associated with

Bartonella. 

> The striations, the red dots in linear lines, freckle appearance,

mole

> appearance, etc.  So from bird mites to this.....Best to

all......Frito

> >

>

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I'll start forwarding today sometime later. There is info on detoxing, antibiotics, treatments, salt and c and why it works and how it works, its all pretty comprhensive. Lady Dee, you inquired about salt and c, would like a forward as well? Frito

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FritoI would really really appreciate anything that you can forward.Yes its been a strange road.....I agree with you that it wasnt only 'mites' in our case.....Z> >> > I haven't been posting much, but I do have an update. I have > finally gotten a hold of my WB results in which would seem to be a > positive for Lyme.. I was not tested for co-infections but I and > especially my son have every skin symptom associated with Bartonella. > The striations, the red dots in linear lines, freckle appearance, mole > appearance, etc. So from bird mites to this.....Best to all......Frito> >>

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Frito,

Could you please forward to me as well??

Thank You

> > >

> > > I haven't been posting much, but I do have an update. I have

> > finally gotten a hold of my WB results in which would seem to be a

> > positive for Lyme.. I was not tested for co-infections but I and

> > especially my son have every skin symptom associated with

> Bartonella.

> > The striations, the red dots in linear lines, freckle appearance,

> mole

> > appearance, etc. So from bird mites to this.....Best to

> all......Frito

> > >

> >

>

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Coming your way.........let me know when you want more......Blessings.......Frito

Re: Update

Frito,Could you please forward to me as well??Thank You> > >> >

> I haven't been posting much, but I do have an update. I have > > finally gotten a hold of my WB results in which would seem to be a > > positive for Lyme.. I was not tested for co-infections but I and > > especially my son have every skin symptom associated with > Bartonella. > > The striations, the red dots in linear lines, freckle appearance, > mole > > appearance, etc. So from bird mites to this.....Best to > all......Frito> > >> >>

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Thank You Frito, You are in my prayers.

> > > >

> > > > I haven't been posting much, but I do have an update. I have

> > > finally gotten a hold of my WB results in which would seem to be a

> > > positive for Lyme.. I was not tested for co-infections but I and

> > > especially my son have every skin symptom associated with

> > Bartonella.

> > > The striations, the red dots in linear lines, freckle appearance,

> > mole

> > > appearance, etc. So from bird mites to this.....Best to

> > all......Frito

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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As you are in mine and you are very welcome. Hope it is helpful to you.....Frito

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Thank You Frito, You are in my prayers.> > > >> > > > I haven't been posting much, but I do have an update. I have > > > finally gotten a

hold of my WB results in which would seem to be a > > > positive for Lyme.. I was not tested for co-infections but I and > > > especially my son have every skin symptom associated with > > Bartonella. > > > The striations, the red dots in linear lines, freckle appearance, > > mole > > > appearance, etc. So from bird mites to this.....Best to > > all......Frito> > > >> > >> >>