Dehydration

October 28, 2000

>> i went to a chinese doctor the other day and he told me that i was

dehydrated because >> of my nervous system not sending the correct

signals to absorb it. this is congruent with >> how i feel. like if i

drink water it doesnt really get into the celss, and just feels forced.

>> anyone have any ideas on how to set the stage better in my body in

order to absorb water

Luck--Did the Chinese doctor have any ideas what to do about the

dehydration, nervous system, etc.? While we're on the subject of

dehydration I was wondering what article you were reading about it,

Debbie. J.

October 29, 2000

mary-

supposedly this guy corrected the imabalnces energetically, but i think i

would need someone at the level of jesus christ at this point to fix things

without touching or ingesting something. that has been my experience with all

of the energy healers. it sort of works for a short period of time, and then

the disease pattern takes over again. i didn't understand your question about

which article i was reading. one big piece of this puzzle for me is that all

the water i do drink needs to go right to my colon to rehydrate all of the

old waste. but it seems like there is so much of it, that my nervous system

just gets confused, and says whats the point, a few glasses of water isnt

going to dent this problem. i remember when i was healthy, i had a normal

appetite for water- it tasted good and felt good. also another piece of this

puzzle is this- a few hours after i eat ice cream, i will develop a normal

thirst and drink water. this seems to be the only thing i have found to

trigger the normal mechanism for me to desire water. my only insight is that

i am sodium deficient, and for some odd reason with ice cream the sugar acts

as a transport and gets sodium into my cells. no other high sodium food seems

to do this for me. last summer when i was doing construction in the heat

wave, i would be totally soaking wet with sweat after one hour of work in the

morning, and even then i had no desire to drink water. so its a deep problem.

October 29, 2000

one other thing i forgot to mention. i don't seem to sweat enough, like i am

retaining water. could this relate to sodium again? perhaps my body is

greedily holding onto whatever sodium it has and that is why it wont sweat.

January 15, 2001

> Do you have any informtion about dehydrating sprouts? I used

to

> dehydrate sprouted barley for bread making. We like sprouts

but

> there are only two of us and I would like to do a big batch and

not

> have to eat it all at once but rather have it available to throw a

> handful in soups etc. Wonder if they would need to be

blanched??

We don't dehydrate so we don't know much, but I've grown

sprouts for and sold seeds to folks who do just that. It certainly

is an easy way to add a lot of nutritional content to a lot of foods.

The processor - he actually was a freeze-drier not a de-hydrator -

who I trust most told me - when I asked him if we could re-sell

his capsules of sprout powders - " NO! There is nothing better

than eating raw food. The act of masticating does something to

the way our bodies absorb the nutrients which can not be

improved upon. Capsules are OK but they are nowhere near

eating living sprouts. "

Still - though I'd not suggest that you replace living sprouts with

dehydrated sprouts, the fact is that the more you eat sprouts the

better you will feel. We all need to eat them the way we like them

(or find convenient) or we won't eat them often enough - so

dehydrate, cook, freeze - whatever - just Eat More Sprouts!

May 21, 2001

Dear Christie,

Have you been tested for sjogrens? ANF, SSa, SSb etc.? Judy

Dehydration

> >I have had IV saline when I was really bad - at first onset (hospitalized

> >for a month, on IV saline almost all of it), and again later when I

allowed

> >myself to get too dehydrated. The dehydration increased lots of symptoms

> >including fatigue, fever, dizziness & vertigo, weakness, headache. The IV

> >fluids gave me immediate improvement, but it was short-lived - I had &

still

> >have to drink over a gallon of water & sport drink a day to keep the

> >dehydration at bay.

>

> Dear Jerry,

>

> Do you know why do keep becoming dehydrated? I am always thirsty, have

dry

> mouth and eyes. Just curious how this all came about. chrisite

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

May 21, 2001

Christie,

I will share with you what I suspect may be partly responsible for

the dehydration problem that accompanies FMS/CFIDS. You can see an

illustration of this on the web site below.

Anyway. At the cellular level, two byproducts of cellular

respiration are carbon dioxide (CO2) and water (H2O). The two combine

to form carbonic acid and then are carried back to the lungs to be

released. In a healthy person, the body is producing about 3 cups of

water daily from the oxygen in the air that we breathe in. This water

is then expelled as the moisture in the air we exhale.

You may have noticed that you tend to breathe very shallowly, this

is one indicator that you may have problems with cellular respiration

since the CO2 levels in the blood are used to help regulate rate and

depth of breathing. The shallow breathing is an attempt by the body

to bring the CO2 levels up.

The dehydrated condition of the body may also contribute to the

problem of shallow breathing. Since the body loses water during

breathing. In an attempt to retain as much water in the system,

breathing is reduced. The increase of hyaluronic acid in the blood is

also likely due to the bodies dehydrated state. One function of

hyaluronic acid is to maintain moisture.

I know this all may sound a little confusing. But in a nutshell, I

think that this may partly account for the dehydration that many

experience with this condition.

Also, if diarrhea due to IBS is a problem, that will dehydrate the

body quicker than anything.

Hope this explanation helps.

All the best,

Jim

clements@...

Fibromyalgia: A Hypothesis of Etiology

http://www.xmission.com/~total/temple/index.html

> >I have had IV saline when I was really bad - at first onset

(hospitalized

> >for a month, on IV saline almost all of it), and again later when I

allowed

> >myself to get too dehydrated. The dehydration increased lots of

symptoms

> >including fatigue, fever, dizziness & vertigo, weakness, headache.

The IV

> >fluids gave me immediate improvement, but it was short-lived - I

had & still

> >have to drink over a gallon of water & sport drink a day to keep

the

> >dehydration at bay.

>

> Dear Jerry,

>

> Do you know why do keep becoming dehydrated? I am always thirsty,

have dry

> mouth and eyes. Just curious how this all came about. chrisite

May 21, 2001

Hi, Christie,

>Do you know why do keep becoming dehydrated? I am always thirsty, have dry

>mouth and eyes. Just curious how this all came about. chrisite

Me too - dry mouth even before going on any antidepressants, and thirsty.

Tracking input/output at hospital I was going thru 6-7 liters a day of

liquids.

I think that it comes down to an autonomic dysfunction - same one that

leaves us with low blood volume. The autonomic nervous system doesn't

control the kidneys properly, so they continue in high-output mode even

though we are dehydrated and have low blood volume.

Jerry

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May 21, 2001

Hi, Christie and Jerry,

Sometimes I urinate excessively and sometimes it seems not enough. When I am

retaining fluid my pains are increased; mainly joints. Dry mouth, too. I

recently cut way back on salt. That seemed to help everything. I eat lots of

carbs, but very little sugar, almost none. I think both sugar and salt cause

me to retain water. My ankles are always swollen.

But recently I have been looking at the backs of my hands and realizing they

are not so shriveled as they once were

I don't know what any of this signifies, except I am sure my kidneys work

erratically -like everything else.

Peace,

Adrienne

> >Do you know why do keep becoming dehydrated? I am always thirsty, have

dry

> >mouth and eyes. Just curious how this all came about. chrisite

>

> Me too - dry mouth even before going on any antidepressants, and thirsty.

> Tracking input/output at hospital I was going thru 6-7 liters a day of

> liquids.

>

> I think that it comes down to an autonomic dysfunction - same one that

> leaves us with low blood volume. The autonomic nervous system doesn't

> control the kidneys properly, so they continue in high-output mode even

> though we are dehydrated and have low blood volume.

>

> Jerry

June 27, 2001

An OT told us and our son's teacher that research had found a correlation

between sipping liquids through a straw and increased concentration and

attention to task. So Marley sips water all day at school. Big cup with a lid

and of course a straw. I think that access helps keep him hydrated. As a result

of this information I now make a point to sip my margeritas through a straw.

. Mom to Marley 10ds/asd, Cas 9, and Kira 4

June 27, 2001

In a message dated 6/27/01 1:50:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, MSomemom@...

writes:

<< As a result of this information I now make a point to sip my margeritas

through a straw. . Mom to Marley 10ds/asd, Cas 9, and Kira 4 >>

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL ROTFLO ROTFLOL

Gail

June 27, 2001

Leah, OOOHH! I want to be in Special Ed. I want an objective. Where can I sign

up!? Thanks for the additional laughs.

June 27, 2001

melissa,

ROLLING ON THE FLOOR LAUGHING...... lmao oh my god that is sooooooooo

funny!!!! i will make that an iep goal for myself " when preparing for iep

meetings and completely stressed out due to school's ignorance and overall

uneducated attitude, leah will sip consistently through a straw 4/5 trials

on every given day with 100 percent accuracy " MODIFICATIONS to include "

1. leah will have access to 100% grade a vodka as needed with no visual

cues, prompts, or verbalreminder........ lmao thanks for the laugh melissa i

sure needed it.....

>From: MSomemom@...

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>< >

>Subject: Re: Dehydration

>Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 16:04:15 EDT

>

>An OT told us and our son's teacher that research had found a correlation

>between sipping liquids through a straw and increased concentration and

>attention to task. So Marley sips water all day at school. Big cup with a

>lid and of course a straw. I think that access helps keep him hydrated. As

>a result of this information I now make a point to sip my margeritas

>through a straw. . Mom to Marley 10ds/asd, Cas 9, and Kira 4

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June 28, 2001

In a message dated 6/27/01 3:07:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, paul.3@...

writes:

> I also have been giving my son more juicy fruits as snacks- he loves grapes

> now and also very ripe kiwis. (BTW, kiwi fruit is very high in fiber.) I

> also have noticed more frequent and easier bm's with the extra liquid and

> by paying attention to the fruit/fiber. (Constipation had started to

> become a bit of a problem.)

>

Watermelon is a good one too, obviously. Luckily, Maddie really likes water

when she drinks from a cup. We have an electric spring water cooler in our

kitchen---we're all water fanatics. We finally have her drinking from a

cup, but she still needs assistance, as she'll sip what she wants and dump

the rest down her shirt). We have had no luck trying to get her to drink

from a straw, but we keep plugging away. I still offer her a bottle. I

know I know---but I don't care. It gets a good 8 ounces into her each time

and offers me great reassurance (She was hospitalized for hydration once and

it was a LIVING nightmare!!!!)

Donna

June 28, 2001

How old is Maddie? I was relieved when I heard about her drinking from a

bottle... still has a bottle (and he will 7 in a couple of weeks.) which

we sometimes get hounded about by various people...but he doesn't drink from a

cup in any significant quantity despite everyone's best efforts...at least with

the bottle we know he'll drink!

Cheri

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