New here

[Guest guest]

Hi Ny,

I am so glad you feel comfotable here. It is a great place to learn,

laugh, cry and vent! Are you talking about Temecula California?

You will find the people here very knowledgeable and nice.

Welcome. Sandy

[Guest guest]

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Hi,

My daughter's therapist is in Escondido which isn't too far away.

You can e-mail for details if you are interested. She has bad

thoughts and sexual thoughts too. She is 14. Again welcome.

Sandy

-- In , " whatonearthdoidohere "

<nimetime@s...> wrote:

>

> Thanks so much for the warm welcome. Yes I am talking about

Temecula

> California. Gosh, I am so nervous that I shared too much about my

own

> type of ocd. It is just hard to share that so I thought I would

just

> be blunt from the beginning and see how it went. Thanks for

> understanding and for your welcome. Hope you are doing well with

your

> child. It makes me so sad to see that so many of our kids have

ocd,

> but it is comforting that parents can network together and help

> eachother help our children.

>

> Thanks again,

> Ny

>

>

> >

> > Hi Ny,

> > I am so glad you feel comfotable here. It is a great place to

learn,

> > laugh, cry and vent! Are you talking about Temecula California?

> > You will find the people here very knowledgeable and nice.

> > Welcome. Sandy

[Guest guest]

Hi Dina,

Welcome! You have come to a great place to get advive, a listening,

ear and emotional support. I know there is another mom whose daughter

has trouble with eating. I am sure she will respond when she reads

your post. My daughter has bad thought ocd so I don't have the issue

with eating. Just wanted to welcome you! Sandy

[Guest guest]

Hi there, and welcome to the group. I am happy (? LOL) to tell you that

yes, everything you wrote about your daughter's OCD experience, from the

abrupt onset to the unhelpful first pdoc to the specific content of her

obsession (fear of vomiting) to her reassurance-seeking questions and so on,

is very familiar to a number of us here :-) Also the extreme anxiety at

having vomiting mentioned, the putting her hands over her ears and running

from the room (avoidance of the feared idea, not wanting to get the thoughts

started again.)

Your daughter is not too young for Cognitive Behavior Therapy with Exposure

and Response Prevention at all. Many many kids younger than yours have done

very well in therapy. My daughter is now 11 but was in formal therapy from

ages 7 to 9, and before that I had bought March's manual and worked

with her as her " therapist " . She also takes an SSRI and has enjoyed low,

stable symptoms for a long while now. Any OCD issues that pop up here and

there, she can easily run off using the techniques or tools she learned in

therapy.

You will want to find an expert child psychologist experienced in CBT/ERP

for OCD in children. Your best bet may be a child anxiety clinic or similar

attached to a teaching hospital. Very often these folks are among the most

up-to-date in treating this disorder, and you are unlikely to be subjected

to the Freudian mumbo-jumbo which is not helpful in diminishing OCD.

Though your daughter reacts so dramatically right now to even talking about

vomiting, she will in time and with repeated exposure stop having such

intense anxiety when it is mentioned--and she will stop obsessing about it

and fearing it to such a degree that it controls her thoughts and eating

behaviors. Ideas for exposure can be about anything, from watching a movie

where a character vomits to buying and playing with fake rubber vomit to

making a pot of " vomit " for dinner (vegetable soup.)

Though fear of vomiting was not my daughter's " biggie " (knives, death, etc.

was), her obsession all but vanished when she caught the flu and did

actually vomit. So you see, exposure works LOL!!

Again welcome,

Kathy R. in Indiana

----- Original Message -----

From: " dina_n_jones " <dina.n.jones@...

> I'm new to , so I'm trying to navigate around the site.

> I'll just write a bit about my daughter and see if there is anyone in

> a similar situation--which I doubt!

>

> I really have no idea how to summarize her disorder. It's not as

> clearcut as hand washing or some of the other rituals I've been

> reading about. My daughter is the oldest of 4 children and had a

> sudden onset of OCD when our youngest, a set of twins, were born 2 1/2

> yrs. ago. She was 7 1/2. While we were dealing with premature twins

> in the NICU, she started having trouble eating. At first she couldn't

> eat at school. Then she couldn't eat at the hospital cafeteria. Then

> she couldn't eat breakfast. Then dinner. She had a hard time trying

> to explain what was happening to her and why she was having difficulty

> eating. She would nibble and try really hard. She finally said she

> was having constant thoughts about throwing up. She was so terrified,

> she was afraid to eat because she might gag. We sought the advice of

> our pediatrician, who referred us to a child psychiatrist. She was

> terrible. We spent 2 mos. having a Dr. tell our child that she

> couldn't eat because she " secretly hated the new babies and thet's

> okay. " My daughter is the sweetest thing and this was scary to her.

> When this wasn't helping, we got a referral to an eating disorder

> clinic and the psychiatrist there. She diagnosed her as having

> OCD--her obsessive thoughts being about vomiting and her compulsion to

> tell me constantly and get reassurance. She was already on Celexa

> (first psychiatrist), but she was starving so terribly they put her in

> the hospital as an inpatient and started Zyprexa and a nasal feeding

> tube. She was refed for a week and then started an intensive

> outpatient therapy program for 3 weeks with the anorexic teens (where

> else do you put a 8 yr. old (now) that won't eat?) Well, her

> diagnosis and reason for not eating was different, but after 3 days,

> she began to slowly eat. She made fast progress and stayed on the

> Zyprexa for 3 mos. After taking her off, she remained better for

> about 6 months and then the thoughts began creeping in again. She had

> an abrupt change 3 weeks ago where her anxiety became severe and she

> stopped eating again and could barely drink anything. We began the

> Zyprexa again and she has improved her eating, but not to a normal

> level. She said her thoughts are still a constant fear of throwing up

> and it consumes her. We switched her to Prozac, and she's still on

> the Zyprexa. Since it hasn't had the same " thought control " effect as

> last time, I started reading more and am trying to become more

> familiar with OCD.

>

> This is difficult to deal with as a family, obviously. She must ask

> me 100 times a day if she's sick, in a variety of ways, for

> reassurance. Of course, every meal is an issue as well because it's

> difficult for her to feel full (she may vomit!), so she doesn't take

> in many calories, or just nibbles. Since this has basically taken

> over our lives, I'm going to ask the psychiatrist for a recommendation

> for a therapist as well, even though she is just turning 10. Has

> anyone else used behavioral therapy with a young child?

>

> My other question is the exposure method. Since we can't expose her

> to vomiting, like you can with something that is dirty with a child

> with germ fears, how is this supposed to work? Is it just exposing

> her to her own thoughts? When I have tried to get her to think about

> vomiting and try to talk through it with her, she acts like she is

> jumping out of her skin, she's so anxious. She will cover her ears or

> run from the room.

>

> I guess this is enough information for now--we'll see if any of this

> sounds familiar to you all.

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group!

My daughter never had the vomiting thing, but she did have problems eating

because of fear that there might be a hair in the food. She refused to eat in

the school cafeteria. (Never had this fear in restaurants, though.) I homeschool

her now so we don't have that problem anymore. Actually, both my children will

vomit at the drop of a hat! lol So I am not much help with that part. However, I

can relate to the covering of ears & running from the room. will not even

attempt to face any of her fears (mostly worries about death, cancer, illness) .

You are so right about it being difficult to deal with as a family. It is a

struggle at times. This group has been wonderful for me. I have learned so much

here. It is nice to have people that can relate to what you are going through.

Ramona

New here

I'm new to , so I'm trying to navigate around the site.

I'll just write a bit about my daughter and see if there is anyone in

a similar situation--which I doubt!

I really have no idea how to summarize her disorder. It's not as

clearcut as hand washing or some of the other rituals I've been

reading about. My daughter is the oldest of 4 children and had a

sudden onset of OCD when our youngest, a set of twins, were born 2 1/2

yrs. ago. She was 7 1/2. While we were dealing with premature twins

in the NICU, she started having trouble eating. At first she couldn't

eat at school. Then she couldn't eat at the hospital cafeteria. Then

she couldn't eat breakfast. Then dinner. She had a hard time trying

to explain what was happening to her and why she was having difficulty

eating. She would nibble and try really hard. She finally said she

was having constant thoughts about throwing up. She was so terrified,

she was afraid to eat because she might gag. We sought the advice of

our pediatrician, who referred us to a child psychiatrist. She was

terrible. We spent 2 mos. having a Dr. tell our child that she

couldn't eat because she " secretly hated the new babies and thet's

okay. " My daughter is the sweetest thing and this was scary to her.

When this wasn't helping, we got a referral to an eating disorder

clinic and the psychiatrist there. She diagnosed her as having

OCD--her obsessive thoughts being about vomiting and her compulsion to

tell me constantly and get reassurance. She was already on Celexa

(first psychiatrist), but she was starving so terribly they put her in

the hospital as an inpatient and started Zyprexa and a nasal feeding

tube. She was refed for a week and then started an intensive

outpatient therapy program for 3 weeks with the anorexic teens (where

else do you put a 8 yr. old (now) that won't eat?) Well, her

diagnosis and reason for not eating was different, but after 3 days,

she began to slowly eat. She made fast progress and stayed on the

Zyprexa for 3 mos. After taking her off, she remained better for

about 6 months and then the thoughts began creeping in again. She had

an abrupt change 3 weeks ago where her anxiety became severe and she

stopped eating again and could barely drink anything. We began the

Zyprexa again and she has improved her eating, but not to a normal

level. She said her thoughts are still a constant fear of throwing up

and it consumes her. We switched her to Prozac, and she's still on

the Zyprexa. Since it hasn't had the same " thought control " effect as

last time, I started reading more and am trying to become more

familiar with OCD.

This is difficult to deal with as a family, obviously. She must ask

me 100 times a day if she's sick, in a variety of ways, for

reassurance. Of course, every meal is an issue as well because it's

difficult for her to feel full (she may vomit!), so she doesn't take

in many calories, or just nibbles. Since this has basically taken

over our lives, I'm going to ask the psychiatrist for a recommendation

for a therapist as well, even though she is just turning 10. Has

anyone else used behavioral therapy with a young child?

My other question is the exposure method. Since we can't expose her

to vomiting, like you can with something that is dirty with a child

with germ fears, how is this supposed to work? Is it just exposing

her to her own thoughts? When I have tried to get her to think about

vomiting and try to talk through it with her, she acts like she is

jumping out of her skin, she's so anxious. She will cover her ears or

run from the room.

I guess this is enough information for now--we'll see if any of this

sounds familiar to you all.

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[Guest guest]

Hi there,

I'm sorry it took me so long to get to your post. I should have responded

earlier. If you haven't, try to look through the archives of this group,

using the search term " vomit " . We have discussed this at length several times in

recent years.

I have a daughter who is now 12. Her biggest fear of all was vomiting.

She had a sudden onset of OCD at age 4 following a severe viral illness. She

ended up with OCD, ADHD and Tourette's Syndrome, although they were all

diagnosed

one at a time over the years. OCD was the first diagnosis. She, too, stopped

eating and stopped even being able to go to school when she was 7 because she

would start gagging and even throwing up, after convincing herself that she

*would* throw up. We, too, were first (when she was 4) referred to a child

psychiatrist who told me I was a " toxic mother " and I should spend less time

with

her, and then to a therapist, who said she had " severe sibling rivalry " about

her then one year old brother (whom she adored). Like your daughter, she was

the sweetest, gentlest child on earth and would do anything to please anyone.

The therapist hounded her until she said that " yes, sometimes she wished she

didn't have a brother. " BAM. Diagnosis made - sibling rivalry.

We gave up on mental health workers for three years after that, until at

7 she became so severely ill. One night while we were waiting for an appt.

with the child psych. (a three month wait) she said, " Mom, I can't stop checking

whether all the lights are turned out. I'm afraid of wasting energy. " I felt

sooooo stupid. As soon as she said the word " checking " I knew it was OCD. It

had never occured to me before that all her anxiety and anger was OCD!

Anyway, long story very short, after being started on Paxil she was a new

child. Completely happy, outgoing, eating, etc. Unfortunately the Paxil quit

working after a year, and then we fished around for a few years looking for

different meds. She also started cognitive behavioral therapy with a wonderful

therapist who is experienced in treating children with OCD (and eating

disorders). She is now 12, doesn't fear vomiting much, has a mild eating

disorder

(bingeing and over-exercising) but we are working on that. She is, in general, a

very, very happy girl. She takes Lexapro for her OCD, Concerta for her ADHD and

Abilify for her Tourette's Syndrome. She still goes to therapy, although it's

usually about eating issues, body image issues and teen issues these days.

OCD is pretty much under the radar.

So hang in there - ignore the idiots who tell you your daughter has

sibling rivalry (poor little girl - just adds to the guilt that all siblings

feel

about occasionally hating new babies...). She has OCD and can be treated for

it. You need to find a therapist who specializes in treating OCD in children,

and is experienced. The vomiting thing is very, very common, but unexperienced

therapists may be thrown by it. A good child psychiatrist can often recommend a

therapist. And a good child psychiatrist is essential, if you have access to

one.

I've gone on long enough. My heart goes out to you! It sounds all so

horribly familiar! But have faith - it will get better.

Best wishes,

in NV

p.s. let me know if there are other questions that you need help with. It's

all " been there, done that " with me!

[Guest guest]

--we must have been posting at the same time.

It's so comforting to read a familiar story! I will do the

search--thank you! This is really the first I've heard of anyone having

the same problem. I have searched OCD so many times on the web and only

found things like " checking, hand washing, lining things in a row " ,

etc.etc. Never anything about throwing up. Our second child

psychiatrist has been great. She said it was OCD off the bat. She also

works with children and adolescents with eating disorders, so she's been

wonderful. I had no idea she ever had any other thoughts other than the

vomiting ones until 6 mos. after her diagnosis, when she was doing

better, she said, " It's so nice not to have to count so much in my head

anymore. " HUH? When I asked her what she meant, she said she had been

counting constantly. Ex: If I reach the stairs in less than 10 steps,

I won't vomit. " Well, once she said that, it made more sense to me

too. I hadn't done any more reading until a few weeks ago because she

was fairly easy to manage on her medication. I naively had thought that

once she was on the SSRI and it was working, our worries were minimal.

Is this something that ebbs and flows?

We have a meeting with the psych. in a week and I'll be asking about a

therapist that has training in OCD then. I think it's time to start the

cognitive behavioral therapy.

I am glad your daughter is doing better! This gives me hope! And leads

me to another comment. There are times when I have such sadness, seeing

this disorder preventing her from reaching her full potential. I wish I

could see into the future and see that she is functioning okay, can go

to college, and living her dreams. Here is an example. She is

academically gifted. Both times she has been " tested " by the school she

has done very well, but not top notch like I know she can. The first

time she hadn't eaten anything in a week--we all know that will impair

your cognitive abilities. The second time, she was on Zyprexa and she

could hardly even read, let alone take a test. I am afraid she will not

be able to get into programs she wants to later (middle school starts in

a year) because of these tests. Then another part of me thinks it's

fine, because emotionally, she couldn't handle anything more rigorous

anyway. I know how bright she is and I just want any doors to remain

open that she would want to pursue. This tears me up inside, not because

I want to push her, but because I remember the child that she once was

before all of this started. It's almost like I'm grieving the child I

used to have. Does this make sense?

Dina

[Guest guest]

I guess I would qualify as one of those new members that Will referred to in

his email. My name is Ann Marie. I live in Carver. Our family has lived

in MN for 18 months. We came here from IL. I have read through the files

and some past messages. It sounds like I missed something great last

Saturday. We are in the process of moving our family to more traditional

and whole foods. We have eaten grass fed organic beef and organic milk for

a number of years, but now we (I) want to get more serious. We have 2 young

boys that we homeschool. I also run (I'm all signed up for TCM this fall)

and have various other crafty hobbies.

I look forward to getting to know y'all.

Ann Marie

[Guest guest]

Hi Ann Marie

We look forward to meeting you at the next meet.

Jeanne

Golden Valley

[Guest guest]

> Twin Cities Marathon.

I thought you were referring to Traditional Chinese Medicine. ) It

seemed logical.

~Joe

[Guest guest]

Hey Ann Marie we meet again (I used to be on the MFW group until I had to cut

back on my

groups). This is a wonderful group and has lots of great resources.

Lynn

> I look forward to getting to know y'all.

>

> Ann Marie

[Guest guest]

Hi Lynn. I remember you. Are you still using MFW? That group has

slowed with the amount of mail. Not nearly the volume when I first joined.

And LOL at Joe... TCM, I " m not into Chinese medicine, just running.

AM

[Guest guest]

On Friday 13 May 2005 03:52 am, wrote:

> I look forward to getting to know y'all.

>

> Ann Marie

Hi Ann Marie,

WELCOME to Minnesota and to TradFoods - MN!! We also homeschool. What are

the ages of your boys? I have 6 children - 4 girls, ages 17, 14, 13, 11; and

2 boys, ages 7 and 5. We live at the other end of Carver county from you -

half a mile from county and about 2 miles from McLeod.

God bless,

Oster, MN

Isaiah 26:3

" I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has

risen, not only because I see it, but because by it I see

everything else. "

--C. S.

[Guest guest]

You must be the that Lynn mentioned in another email to me. (she said

something about the west-siders getting together someday). I'm sure we will

meet someday.

My boys are 4 and 5 (6 in August). You are definitely a busy woman.

Thanks for the welcome.

AM

>

> Hi Ann Marie,

> WELCOME to Minnesota and to TradFoods - MN!! We also homeschool. What are

> the ages of your boys? I have 6 children - 4 girls, ages 17, 14, 13, 11; and

> 2 boys, ages 7 and 5. We live at the other end of Carver county from you -

> half a mile from county and about 2 miles from McLeod.

> God bless,

>

> Oster, MN

> Isaiah 26:3

> " I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has

> risen, not only because I see it, but because by it I see

> everything else. "

> --C. S.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ann Marie

Another " west side " and homescholing welcome to you!

And -- the way you describe your location, it seems kinda close!

I'm in Chanhassen and we get out to our cabin on Lake n in MacLeod

County about every other weekend. We're planning on going out there for the

Herb

Walk coming up soon -- were you the one who posted about that?

Maybe it would be fun to meet there!

I have 2 dd: 13 and 6 and 2 ds: 11 and 2 1/2 --Maybe some fits there with

some of yours!

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the welcome. Chanhassen is so close. My boys are almost 4 and 5

1/2. I " m sure we'll meet up somewhere.

Ann Marie

> From: marasou@...

> Reply-

> Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 19:19:31 -0400 (EDT)

>

> Subject: Re: Re: new here

>

> Ann Marie

>

> Another " west side " and homescholing welcome to you!

>

> And -- the way you describe your location, it seems kinda close!

>

> I'm in Chanhassen and we get out to our cabin on Lake n in MacLeod

> County about every other weekend. We're planning on going out there for the

> Herb

> Walk coming up soon -- were you the one who posted about that?

>

> Maybe it would be fun to meet there!

>

> I have 2 dd: 13 and 6 and 2 ds: 11 and 2 1/2 --Maybe some fits there with

> some of yours!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

On Sunday 15 May 2005 03:30 am, wrote:

> You are definitely a busy woman.

Ann Marie,

Oh my! What did she tell you? I often think that I'm not as busy as people

seem to think I am! Though Lynn probably has the best idea of anyone

(besides me, of course LOL) of how busy I am.

--

Oster, MN

Isaiah 26:3

" I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has

risen, not only because I see it, but because by it I see

everything else. "

--C. S.

[Guest guest]

She only mentioned that the two of you had discussed getting the west-siders

together. I came to the conclusion that you were busy because of

homeschooling 4 children. That can take up significant portions of time.

Ann Marie

> From: LeAnne s <.s@...>

> Reply-

> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 20:45:50 -0500

>

> Subject: Re: new here

>

> On Sunday 15 May 2005 03:30 am, wrote:

>> You are definitely a busy woman.

>

> Ann Marie,

> Oh my! What did she tell you? I often think that I'm not as busy as people

> seem to think I am! Though Lynn probably has the best idea of anyone

> (besides me, of course LOL) of how busy I am.

>

> --

>

> Oster, MN

> Isaiah 26:3

> " I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has

> risen, not only because I see it, but because by it I see

> everything else. "

> --C. S.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome. Are you under a dr care? Do you eat any meat? Occasionally I will go on a no meat diet for a week to jump start my weight lose. We have many different plans WW, foodmover, own diets, ediets, fitday journals, and much more. Do yourself a favor get a journal and do inventory. Meaaning where you are today weight, how much water, exercise, or anything you would like to see change. Then make a plan for say a week or 2. Then do inventory again. It is great to see the changes you make.

NH... Mom to Abby Liz 10/94 Anne 7/99

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/21/2005 3:46:37 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, DcHuff97@... writes:

This is why I am here is for the support and for people who know what its like the be this heavy. I also would like to hear from anyone who has lost a whole lot of weight and is maintaing. These stories of women who do it without any other methods besides support and lifestyle change are inspiring to me. Thanks Mommy of 6Noah 4

Hi , my name is Brigit and I am very new here. I have gained 100lbs since 1993, I've always had a weight problem and now my 250 lbs may not seem like an incredible amount of weight but for me it has become crippling. You are not alone in this group, even the small successes are grand because they are a start and a place to begin. Sometimes I think it is impossible, like a lead wall, but since I've been involved with this group I have been doing my exercise and stretches everyday. I'm still afraid to get on the scale, that part is terrifying to me, but I know I will have to soon. Take care, brigit

[Guest guest]

Hi good morning and welcome to the group....oh I remember the days when everyone said oh but you have such a pretty face and you wear you weight well......What were they drinking......I agree with you no one can wear 397lbs well.....just not possible....Your eating plan sounds good but what about your protein....may sure you get enough in per day....I also know the feeling of not being able to fit into something or someplace....This is a great support group and I wish you so much success....and start moving.......I did have the surgery to help me get my weight off......but it's still not easy as many people think I have to work this tool everyday......to keep the weight off........good luck to you

Tema dchuff97 <DcHuff97@...> wrote:

Hi everyone my name is and I need support badly. This is my last effort to lose weight before having to turn to methods I do not want. I know that I can do this by changing my lifestyle and living my life better. I weight 386lbs and I am 5'9. People who do know what I weigh do not belive me they say I carry my weight good, but that much weight there is no carrying it good when your the one it is on. I look forward to the day when all the little things people take for granted I can do. I have decided that I am going to use the eat to live plan. I have been on it for a week and today my dad fixed mac and cheese, pintos, kraut and winnies, corn, and corn bread. I had a small plate and I was sick all night. That in itself has made me not want to eat like that anymore. The

plan consits of fruits, veggies raw and cooked, beans and nuts and seeds. No dairy, meat, or proceesed foods. I am married (8 years) and have two boys. They love meat so I just fix them a meat and 2 veggies and I eat the veggies and a large sald and some fruit. I love it cause you can eat as much as you want and still lose weight and if you need sugar fruit will do the trick. My oldest son wants me to come on his field trips at school they have them every month but I can not because I cant walk without my back killing me. I carry almost all my excess weight in my tummy. I am so afraid of not fitting on the bus to. I will go on a trip with him when school starts back. I feel so lost and like I can not do it. This is why I am here is for the support and for people who know what its like the be this heavy. I also would like to hear from anyone who has lost a whole

lot of weight and is maintaing. These stories of women who do it without any other methods besides support and lifestyle change are inspiring to me. Thanks Mommy of 6Noah 4100-Plus Files page 100-plus/files100-Plus Links page 100-plus/links

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I'm new here too and just read your post with interest. I'm also

following the Eat to Live program. I agree with you that you can

eat quite a bit and not feel at all guilty. I've been having fruit

smoothies (usually 2 a day). Morning one with 2 bananas, cup of soy

milk, 6 ice cubes and a dash of Splenda. Makes about 3/4 of a

vitamizer full and is a great way to start the day.

In my one and only other post I confessed that for the past two and

half weeks I've been sick with the flu and my eating plan has flown

the coop. But I weigh in tomorrow and will start getting back on

track.

While I've been sick it has just been too much effort to clean out

my fridge, walk to the shops, then prepare food. I've mostly been

having toast (easy!) with peanut butter and a million cups of tea

with milk. Luckily I gave up sugar about 25 years ago (only in tea

or coffee, mind you. I sure make up for that with my very sweet

tooth).

Anyway, before I prattle on forever, my stats are 46 years, married,

three sons aged 24,22 and 19. I'm 5'6 " (168cm) and my current

weight is approx 235lbs (around 107kg...but I will know for sure

tomorrow).

It's nice to see someone else on the same food plan. I hope you are

doing well and look forward to chatting with you and all the other

ladies here.

Cheers and warm thoughts,

ozgal

> Hi everyone my name is and I need support badly. This is

my

> last effort to lose weight before having to turn to methods I do

not

> want. I know that I can do this by changing my lifestyle and

living

> my life better. I weight 386lbs and I am 5'9. People who do know

> what I weigh do not belive me they say I carry my weight good, but

> that much weight there is no carrying it good when your the one it

> is on. I look forward to the day when all the little things

people

> take for granted I can do. I have decided that I am going to use

> the eat to live plan. I have been on it for a week and today my

dad

> fixed mac and cheese, pintos, kraut and winnies, corn, and corn

> bread. I had a small plate and I was sick all night. That in

> itself has made me not want to eat like that anymore. The plan

> consits of fruits, veggies raw and cooked, beans and nuts and

> seeds. No dairy, meat, or proceesed foods. I am married (8

years)

> and have two boys. They love meat so I just fix them a meat and 2

> veggies and I eat the veggies and a large sald and some fruit. I

> love it cause you can eat as much as you want and still lose

weight

> and if you need sugar fruit will do the trick. My oldest son

wants

> me to come on his field trips at school they have them every month

> but I can not because I cant walk without my back killing me. I

> carry almost all my excess weight in my tummy. I am so afraid of

> not fitting on the bus to. I will go on a trip with him when

school

> starts back. I feel so lost and like I can not do it. This is

why

> I am here is for the support and for people who know what its like

> the be this heavy. I also would like to hear from anyone who has

> lost a whole lot of weight and is maintaing. These stories of

women

> who do it without any other methods besides support and lifestyle

> change are inspiring to me. Thanks

>

>

> Mommy of

> 6

> Noah 4

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Hi everyone my name is and I need support badly.

Hi ! I am cb I am fairly new too though I tend to jump in and don't feel so new anymore.

This is my last effort to lose weight before having to turn to methods I do not want. I know that I can do this by changing my lifestyle and living my life better.

What I have found for me is that learning to change my lifestyle means getting it wrong, recognizing that I got it wrong and making corrections until I find a combination that I can live with for the rest of my life. Because I don't expect to get it all right in the beginning I can relax -- not get in a panic when I screw up and beat myself up and all around make things worse -- and examine what didn't work and make changes.

I think that is what changing a lifestyle is all about -- recognizing what doesn't work and changing it.

I weight 386lbs and I am 5'9. People who do know what I weigh do not belive me they say I carry my weight good, but that much weight there is no carrying it good when your the one it is on. I look forward to the day when all the little things people take for granted I can do.

I weight 384 and I am 5'6. I have had people say the same thing to me. I look in the mirror and think they are either trying to be kind or polite or are out of their minds. It is their problem though.

I have decided that I am going to use the eat to live plan. I have been on it for a week and today my dad fixed mac and cheese, pintos, kraut and winnies, corn, and corn bread. I had a small plate and I was sick all night. That in itself has made me not want to eat like that anymore. The plan consits of fruits, veggies raw and cooked, beans and nuts and seeds. No dairy, meat, or proceesed foods.

Good for you that you have made a choice of food plan already. That sounds a lot like a vegan lifestyle. Take it easy on yourself. Mastering a new way takes time and practice -- at least that is what I have found so far -- and giving yourself that time is important.

I am here is for the support and for people who know what its like the be this heavy. I also would like to hear from anyone who has lost a whole lot of weight and is maintaing. These stories of women who do it without any other methods besides support and lifestyle change are inspiring to me.

Well I have only recovered 46 pounds of health and but I have found the people here very supportive I am sure you will too.

Take care,

cb

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In a message dated 5/21/2005 8:42:07 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, hollands@... writes:

I have a long way to go, but support, lifestyle dietary approach, excercise,medical supervision of health issues will get me there. It has been a yearand I am down 40 pounds. not much for a year. But it is in the rightdirection.This is a good list. I enjoy (usually lurking) reading everyone's progress.Good luck. Anything I can help with, let me know.Becky

This is awesome Becky, I'm having such a struggle right now, but won't give up, this is a mighty encouraging letter. Brigit

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Hi, ,

I have a 10 year old son and I am quite a bit heavier than you are (460+).

I have escorted my son's class on several class trips - in the school bus.

I sat in the front seat because I refused to squeeze down the isle. I have

had children point, giggle, " ohh " , and all sorts of other things. But my

son likes to see me there, so I go. I cannot walk long distances, but the

field trips are not usually that long.

I find that water aerobics is the best exercise for me. No stress on feet

and knees. When I just walk around the block, my feet swell and I cannot

walk for the rest of the day. Not so with water aerobics. I really like

deep water aerobics and shallow water pilates classes at my YMCA. I don't

usually swim when the kids are in the pool, but if they are there I will

march right by them. I have as much right to be there as they do. I am not

proud of how I look in a bathing suit, but I am working on it.

I am working with a doctor and have several medical issues including

thyroid, insulin resistance and PCOS. Since starting medication to mitigate

these I have lost some weight. It has been a struggle, but for the first

time the scale went down, not up. So at least it was in the right

direction.

I have a long way to go, but support, lifestyle dietary approach, excercise,

medical supervision of health issues will get me there. It has been a year

and I am down 40 pounds. not much for a year. But it is in the right

direction.

This is a good list. I enjoy (usually lurking) reading everyone's progress.

Good luck. Anything I can help with, let me know.

Becky