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I know many programs ask patient's to follow some type of liquid diet

before surgery. I wonder about compliance with this. After surgery

the mechanisms are in place that warrant following a liquid diet.

Personally, I don't think I could follow a FL diet for two full weeks

myself. And, I do not think it would be a predictor of how compliant

I would be after surgery either. The surgeon and the MD I work with

in my program do not think it is necessary. I do instruct the

patient that they will be on a liquid diet post op and they have

understanding of this before surgery. Before surgery, I recommend

they try some of the foods they will be eating postop. We discuss

lack of texture/ constistency during this stage etc. but FL diet is

necessary and we discuss why. This is the time the patient will

usually voice if they expect this will be hard to them, and I will

make note of this for discussion after surgery.

No matter what I do, I have found I cannot anticipate or try to

predict how a patient will do after surgery. I am surprised every

time, each person is so individual. I do find that I can make them as

well informed as possible, and then they are more likely to say " Im

having a hard time with this FL diet but I knew ahead I would have to

be on this stage for x amount of time. Do you have any

recommendations to help me? " This keeps the communication open.

Just my personal thoughts.

Corey Filbert RD, CD

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In our group we use a low carboyhdrate, high protein diet for two

weeks before surgery. This allows patients to eat solid foods while

still aiding in shrinking the liver before surgery. The diet

includes no more than 30 grams carbs/day, at least 70 grams

protein/day, and fat in moderation. I emphasize lean meats, eggs

and cheeses in moderation, and plenty of vegetables (no corn, peas,

potatoes). This has worked extremely well for our group as far as

decreasing surgical risk. I also inform patients that if the liver

is too large at time of surgery the surgeon has the right to cancel

their operation. My surgeons strongly feel that if compliance is an

issue for 2 weeks they will not be a good long term candidate. I

also feel like this gets the patient thinking about fat content,

carbs, and good lean protein sources before surgery. It allows them

to take ownership of their decision before going to the OR.

Dana Hrobar, RD, LD

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Thank you for the reply. What do you suggest for people who do not like

milk or can't tolerate it?

Thanks-

Dillenbeck, RD, CD, CDE

Dept of Health and Nutrition Education

UW-Health

20 South Park Street Suite 402

Madison, WI 53715

(608) 287-2770

>>> rbijold1@... 04/08/04 08:38AM >>>

We require our patients to do this. Our protocol is 5 or more cups/day

of

sugar-free Carnation Instant Breakfast, mixed with 2% milk, fortified

with

1TBSP/cup Pro-Mod powder. Patients may also have sugar-free beverages

with

this. We explain the rationale as follows:

1. Patients lose some weight right before surgery, shrinking the

liver.

2. Prevents " last supper syndrome " , or that 10# weight gain from

bingeing

right before surgery.

3. Improves blood glucose, if diabetic.

4. Makes sure patient has no problem drinking the beverage, as they

will

have to drink it after the surgery.

Just last week we cancelled a patient's surgery, after she came in the

morning of surgery with a glucose of 377, and she admitted she had not

done

the liquid diet. This was a wake-up call for this patient, and the

word

gets out that we are serious about our patients being able to follow

our

instructions, or we will not perform the surgery. We are very clear

with

our patients about this being an elective surgery, and we are not going

to

do the surgery on people who may have the potential for causing

themselves

harm by not being able or willing to do what is in their best interest.

As RD's, my co-worker and I were skeptical about the 2-week liquid

diet

before surgery, as the surgeon was insisting on. Now that we have

been

doing our program this way for over a year, we can see the value.

Hope that helps.

Roxanne Bijold, MSE, RD, LD, CDE

St 's/Duluth Clinic

400 E 3rd Street

Duluth, MN 55805

218-786-3092

rbijold1@...

pregnancy after gastric bypass >Date:

Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:21:43 -0800 (PST) > >Hello all, I just saw a

patient

who is 6 weeks pregnant and is 6 months post-op. A while back some

pregnancy guidelines were posted, one being taking a prenatal vitamin

in

addition to the regular vitamin. I guess my question is, is that what

the majority of you are recommending? I made that recommendation to

the

patient and she said that would be too toxic. > >Also, do calcium and

vitamin B12 requirements go up? > >Thank you so much for any input. >

>Carla Evers, RD, LD >St. ius Hospital >NewStart Program >St.

Louis

MO >800.245.1431 > > >--------------------------------- >Do you

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If they can't tolerate milk, they can sub soy milk or Lactaid. If they don't like milk, or can't tolerate Nutrasweet, they can use Promote. If they don't eat any dairy products, this is a challenge, because they will have trouble finding foods to eat and tolerate, and get adequate protein in the first few months after the surgery if they don't like cottage cheese, milk or yogurt.

Roxanne Bijold

pregnancy after gastric bypass >Date:Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:21:43 -0800 (PST) > >Hello all, I just saw apatientwho is 6 weeks pregnant and is 6 months post-op. A while back somepregnancy guidelines were posted, one being taking a prenatal vitamininaddition to the regular vitamin. I guess my question is, is that whatthe majority of you are recommending? I made that recommendation tothepatient and she said that would be too toxic. > >Also, do calcium andvitamin B12 requirements go up? > >Thank you so much for any input. >>Carla Evers, RD, LD >St. ius Hospital >NewStart Program >St.LouisMO >800.245.1431 > > >--------------------------------- >Do you?> SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! Check out MSN PC Safety & Security to help ensure your PC is protectedand safe.

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I'm not familiar with Promote. Who makes it? What is the nutrient

composition?

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Dillenbeck, RD, CD, CDE

Dept of Health and Nutrition Education

UW-Health

20 South Park Street Suite 402

Madison, WI 53715

(608) 287-2770

>>> rbijold1@... 04/14/04 09:32AM >>>

If they can't tolerate milk, they can sub soy milk or Lactaid. If

they

don't like milk, or can't tolerate Nutrasweet, they can use Promote.

If

they don't eat any dairy products, this is a challenge, because they

will

have trouble finding foods to eat and tolerate, and get adequate

protein in

the first few months after the surgery if they don't like cottage

cheese,

milk or yogurt.

Roxanne Bijold

pregnancy after gastric bypass >Date:

Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:21:43 -0800 (PST) > >Hello all, I just saw a

patient

who is 6 weeks pregnant and is 6 months post-op. A while back some

pregnancy guidelines were posted, one being taking a prenatal vitamin

in

addition to the regular vitamin. I guess my question is, is that what

the majority of you are recommending? I made that recommendation to

the

patient and she said that would be too toxic. > >Also, do calcium and

vitamin B12 requirements go up? > >Thank you so much for any input. >

>Carla Evers, RD, LD >St. ius Hospital >NewStart Program >St.

Louis

MO >800.245.1431 > > >--------------------------------- >Do you

?

> SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it!

Check out MSN PC Safety & Security to help ensure your PC is protected

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Promote is a Ross product. 8oz can contains 15 gms protein and 240 kcals.

Roxanne

pregnancy after gastric bypass >Date:Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:21:43 -0800 (PST) > >Hello all, I just saw apatientwho is 6 weeks pregnant and is 6 months post-op. A while back somepregnancy guidelines were posted, one being taking a prenatal vitamininaddition to the regular vitamin. I guess my question is, is that whatthe majority of you are recommending? I made that recommendation tothepatient and she said that would be too toxic. > >Also, do calcium andvitamin B12 requirements go up? > >Thank you so much for any input. >>Carla Evers, RD, LD >St. ius Hospital >NewStart Program >St.LouisMO >800.245.1431 > > >--------------------------------- >Do you?> SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! Check out MSN PC Safety & Security to help ensure your PC is protectedand safe.

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My surgery is scheduled for the 13th of April. I have to go on a liquid diet

for 2 days prior to surgery. Any suggestions on what would be acceptable is

greatly appreciated.

S

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The instructions say I can drink water, apple juice, black coffee or black

tea up to 4 hours before surgery. I think that means a clear liquid diet

then.

S

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Is it full liquid or clear liquids?

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> My surgery is scheduled for the 13th of April. I have to go on a liquid

diet

> for 2 days prior to surgery. Any suggestions on what would be acceptable

is

> greatly appreciated.

>

> S

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Ensure i find works for me because i am lactose intolerant its easy on the

stomach regards

 

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Sent: Saturday, 7 April 2012 9:29 AM

Subject: Liquid Diet

 

My surgery is scheduled for the 13th of April. I have to go on a liquid diet

for 2 days prior to surgery. Any suggestions on what would be acceptable is

greatly appreciated.

S

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Gingerale, white grape juice, Popsicles... I am having my last " meal " Sunday at

noon and then clear liquids until Monday night. Surgery Tuesday at noon. Google

clear liquids for more ideas...

Jenn

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On Apr 6, 2012, at 23:44, " ravenstorm2008@... " <ravenstorm2008@...>

wrote:

> The instructions say I can drink water, apple juice, black coffee or black

> tea up to 4 hours before surgery. I think that means a clear liquid diet

> then.

>

> S

>

>

>

> -- Re: Liquid Diet

>

> Is it full liquid or clear liquids?

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

> On Apr 6, 2012, at 20:59, " tlstevens2004@... " <ravenstorm2008@gmail

> com> wrote:

>

> > My surgery is scheduled for the 13th of April. I have to go on a liquid

> diet

> > for 2 days prior to surgery. Any suggestions on what would be acceptable

> is

> > greatly appreciated.

> >

> > S

> >

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