Guest guest Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Hi Krys and I so sorry to hear about you father in law I will pray for Him . For the eyes : betadine is amazing I wet my eye area with water then close my eyes while I do it , and wipe 1 teasp betadine on the eyebrow. & lid It does not burn the skin around the eyes. I Keep them closed & rinse all of it off well in 5 minutes. It kills al bugs instantly & keeps them dead . ( also wotks miracles on the privates ) it is not made io be appied to large areas of the body due to toxity says the pharmacist . For the vacuum: I found Wet vacs are easier to maintain . I place outside & pour in 1 cup of bleach & run for 30 mins . For the tubes I suck up borax water 1 cup per gal o water , then vac up 1 cup of dry borax & shut off , they die . One time I used 1 cup bleach & 1/2 dawn soap in 1 gal o water , Dawn contains ammonia ( amonium )this is dangerous makes clorine gas which causes blindness & lung damage . I did this outside away from my house , it made my vac sterile, before that it had bugs .Now I spray it with Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent' in & out ' each time I use it now & it is clear of bugs . God bless you , Bill On Fri Jul 15th, 2011 1:26 PM EDT Krys Brennand wrote: >Thanks , I see what you mean. > > > >On 15 July 2011 12:06, <Goldstein@...> wrote: > >> ** >> >> >> Hi Krys, >> >> I think of die off as fatigue, brain fog, gut distress, nausea, bloating, >> headache, body ache or itch, muscle or joint pain, feeling like one is >> coming down with the flu. Maybe die off is different for the dying off of >> different organisms, not sure. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: * " Krys Brennand " <krys109uk@...> >> **bird mites >> *Sent: *Friday, July 15, 2011 4:15:40 AM >> *Subject: *Re: Question >> >> >> >> Hi , >> >> How is your father in law? He sounds like he must be an interesting old >> man. >> >> Thanks for the advice on the MSM; I'll ask her not to take the capsules. >> Please will you tell me what " die off " presents or looks like, so I might >> be able to ascertain what it is, if it happens? >> >> Best wishes, >> Krys >> >> On 14 July 2011 22:30, <Goldstein@...> wrote: >> >>> ** >>> >>> >>> Hi dear >>> >>> I doubt if it is " die off. " It could be a real allergic response to >>> sulpher, which you had said she showed allergic responses to previously. I >>> sure would not take more of those just to see if she comes back into >>> equalibrium. >>> >>> Thanks for the thoughts regarding dad. We won't know until tomorrow >>> whether the bleed in the brain is continuing. >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: * " Krys Brennand " <krys109uk@...> >>> **bird mites >>> *Sent: *Thursday, July 14, 2011 6:27:08 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: Question >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello , >>> Sounds like you've had a horrid day. Sorry to hear about your father in >>> law; while at nearly 96 he has had a very good innings, it is always >>> distressing when loved ones are taken seriously ill. I hope things go well. >>> >>> I am sure my mother is, to some extent, allergic to bird mite bites, but, >>> while her eyes have been swollen since cleaning the vacuum cleaner, this >>> latest, much more serious reaction, is completely sudden, & for no >>> apparently new reason, though it does seem to coincide with her starting the >>> MSM capsules, which is why I'm asking whether her latest reaction might be >>> " die off " or allegic reaction to the MSM or not related to the MSM at all, >>> in which case what would have started such a serious reaction after a year >>> of bird mites? >>> >>> Hope your father in law pulls through. >>> All the best >>> Krys >>> >>> On 14 July 2011 18:25, <Goldstein@...> wrote: >>> >>>> ** >>>> >>>> >>>> Not everyone Krys has an allergic reaction to the bites from birdmites. >>>> My husband did not, but I did. My reaction was not quite as severe as your >>>> mom's, but it was severe. My bites were huge and angry red. My doctor put >>>> me on Hydroxyzine HCL 50 mg tablets 1-3 tablets orally daily and it helped >>>> me sleep too, but best of all, the intense inflammation from the bites >>>> started to subside. I have no idea if this is a steroid, but I do know this >>>> was the best thing my doctor did for me at my HMO. I wish I could take your >>>> mom's pain, discomfort, worry and mites away. So hard to see family or hear >>>> about their suffering. >>>> >>>> My father-in-law suffered a massive hemorrhagic stroke today and I just >>>> got back from the hospital. We don't know if he will survive it. He is >>>> almost 96 years of age on September 1. He is a retired physicist from NASA >>>> for his career. I was going to his house in the morning to take him to a >>>> cardiologist appointment. He called me earlier to ask me to come early to >>>> dress him (he had never done that before) and he was on the floor when I >>>> arrived and I called paramedics who arrived shortly thereafter. His left >>>> side is totally placid. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From: * " Krys Brennand " <krys109uk@...> >>>> ** " bird mites " <bird mites > >>>> *Sent: *Thursday, July 14, 2011 10:59:22 AM >>>> *Subject: * Question >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> My mother got badly bitten about a week ago after cleaning out all of the >>>> tubes & hoses of the vacuum cleaner. Her eyes had been paricularly badly >>>> btten & had swollen up, again she was having the horrid little things >>>> crawling in her eyes, mouth, nose & other parts. As far as I can gather, >>>> this had been subsiding. A couple of days ago she bought a few things, >>>> including MSM capsules, which she had started taking. She phoned me up just >>>> now telling me of her horrid experiences, though I'm not sure wheher she >>>> meant today or yesterday (this can be confusing particularly due to time >>>> differences). Seems her face ( & maybe body) went dark red, her eyelids, >>>> mouth, (inside & out), half her tongue, her gums swelled up & a lump cam up >>>> under her tongue came up. She went to the new doctor's & they were very >>>> kind, telling her the mites were causing her an allergic reaction ( & they >>>> don't think she's imagining it) & have put her onto steroids for 5 days & >>>> say if her throat becomes any more swollen they will send her to hospital. >>>> >>>> Is it possible this is die off due to taking the MSM? She has not made >>>> any such connection & I have not suggested it. Indeed, I told her to >>>> remember to continue taking the MSM, hoping that perhaps this is die off & >>>> after a day or two she might start feeling considerbly better. But is this >>>> right? Could it be that the swelling is an allergic reaction to the MSM in >>>> which case continuing taking it would make her worse? What should I do? >>>> Mostly should she continue with the MSM? Is it likely that the MSM has >>>> nothing whatsoever to do with the reaction? >>>> >>>> My mother thanks you all for your kind wishes. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Krys >>>> >>>> I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky, >>>> And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by, >>>> And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking, >>>> And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking. >>>> I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide >>>> Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied; >>>> And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying, >>>> And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying. >>>> I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life, >>>> To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted >>>> knife; >>>> And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover, >>>> And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over. >>>> >>>> *Sea Fever* - Masefield >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> They shut the road through the woods >>> Seventy years ago. >>> Weather and rain have undone it again, >>> And now you would never know >>> There was once a road through the woods >>> Before they planted the trees. >>> It is underneath the coppice and heath, >>> And the thin anemones. >>> Only the keeper sees >>> That, where the ring-dove broods, >>> And the badgers roll at ease, >>> There was once a road through the woods. >>> >>> Yet, if you enter the woods >>> Of a summer evening late, >>> When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools >>> Where the otter whistles his mate. >>> (They fear not men in the woods, >>> Because they see so few) >>> You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, >>> And the swish of a skirt in the dew, >>> Steadily cantering through >>> The misty solitudes, >>> As though they perfectly knew >>> The old lost road through the woods…. >>> But there is no road through the woods. >>> * >>> The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> They shut the road through the woods >> Seventy years ago. >> Weather and rain have undone it again, >> And now you would never know >> There was once a road through the woods >> Before they planted the trees. >> It is underneath the coppice and heath, >> And the thin anemones. >> Only the keeper sees >> That, where the ring-dove broods, >> And the badgers roll at ease, >> There was once a road through the woods. >> >> Yet, if you enter the woods >> Of a summer evening late, >> When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools >> Where the otter whistles his mate. >> (They fear not men in the woods, >> Because they see so few) >> You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, >> And the swish of a skirt in the dew, >> Steadily cantering through >> The misty solitudes, >> As though they perfectly knew >> The old lost road through the woods…. >> But there is no road through the woods. >> * >> The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling >> >> >> > > > >-- >They shut the road through the woods >Seventy years ago. >Weather and rain have undone it again, >And now you would never know >There was once a road through the woods >Before they planted the trees. >It is underneath the coppice and heath, >And the thin anemones. >Only the keeper sees >That, where the ring-dove broods, >And the badgers roll at ease, >There was once a road through the woods. > >Yet, if you enter the woods >Of a summer evening late, >When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools >Where the otter whistles his mate. >(They fear not men in the woods, >Because they see so few) >You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, >And the swish of a skirt in the dew, >Steadily cantering through >The misty solitudes, >As though they perfectly knew >The old lost road through the woods…. >But there is no road through the woods. >* >The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Dear , I am utterly sorry that you have to deal with another loss within your family any time soon. I will keep you and your father in law in my prayers. Wishing you power and piece. Warm hugs, Aggi > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > Not everyone Krys has an allergic reaction to the bites from birdmites. My > > > husband did not, but I did. My reaction was not quite as severe as your > > > mom's, but it was severe. My bites were huge and angry red. My doctor put > > > me on Hydroxyzine HCL 50 mg tablets 1-3 tablets orally daily and it helped > > > me sleep too, but best of all, the intense inflammation from the bites > > > started to subside. I have no idea if this is a steroid, but I do know this > > > was the best thing my doctor did for me at my HMO. I wish I could take your > > > mom's pain, discomfort, worry and mites away. So hard to see family or hear > > > about their suffering. > > > > > > My father-in-law suffered a massive hemorrhagic stroke today and I just got > > > back from the hospital. We don't know if he will survive it. He is almost > > > 96 years of age on September 1. He is a retired physicist from NASA for his > > > career. I was going to his house in the morning to take him to a > > > cardiologist appointment. He called me earlier to ask me to come early to > > > dress him (he had never done that before) and he was on the floor when I > > > arrived and I called paramedics who arrived shortly thereafter. His left > > > side is totally placid. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > *From: * " Krys Brennand " <krys109uk@> > > > ** " bird mites " < bird mites > > > > *Sent: *Thursday, July 14, 2011 10:59:22 AM > > > *Subject: * Question > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > My mother got badly bitten about a week ago after cleaning out all of the > > > tubes & hoses of the vacuum cleaner. Her eyes had been paricularly badly > > > btten & had swollen up, again she was having the horrid little things > > > crawling in her eyes, mouth, nose & other parts. As far as I can gather, > > > this had been subsiding. A couple of days ago she bought a few things, > > > including MSM capsules, which she had started taking. She phoned me up just > > > now telling me of her horrid experiences, though I'm not sure wheher she > > > meant today or yesterday (this can be confusing particularly due to time > > > differences). Seems her face ( & maybe body) went dark red, her eyelids, > > > mouth, (inside & out), half her tongue, her gums swelled up & a lump cam up > > > under her tongue came up. She went to the new doctor's & they were very > > > kind, telling her the mites were causing her an allergic reaction ( & they > > > don't think she's imagining it) & have put her onto steroids for 5 days & > > > say if her throat becomes any more swollen they will send her to hospital. > > > > > > Is it possible this is die off due to taking the MSM? She has not made any > > > such connection & I have not suggested it. Indeed, I told her to remember to > > > continue taking the MSM, hoping that perhaps this is die off & after a day > > > or two she might start feeling considerbly better. But is this right? Could > > > it be that the swelling is an allergic reaction to the MSM in which case > > > continuing taking it would make her worse? What should I do? Mostly should > > > she continue with the MSM? Is it likely that the MSM has nothing whatsoever > > > to do with the reaction? > > > > > > My mother thanks you all for your kind wishes. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Krys > > > > > > I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky, > > > And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by, > > > And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking, > > > And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking. > > > I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide > > > Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied; > > > And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying, > > > And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying. > > > I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life, > > > To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted > > > knife; > > > And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover, > > > And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over. > > > > > > *Sea Fever* - Masefield > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > They shut the road through the woods > > Seventy years ago. > > Weather and rain have undone it again, > > And now you would never know > > There was once a road through the woods > > Before they planted the trees. > > It is underneath the coppice and heath, > > And the thin anemones. > > Only the keeper sees > > That, where the ring-dove broods, > > And the badgers roll at ease, > > There was once a road through the woods. > > > > Yet, if you enter the woods > > Of a summer evening late, > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools > > Where the otter whistles his mate. > > (They fear not men in the woods, > > Because they see so few) > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew, > > Steadily cantering through > > The misty solitudes, > > As though they perfectly knew > > The old lost road through the woods�. > > But there is no road through the woods. > > * > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Hello Krys, I hate saying this, because I highly recommended the MSM to you for your mother, but this really sounds like a severe allergic reaction to the sulfur. Just never heard of anyone getting in this state from the mites. I am so glad she's got a doctor now how is listening to her and does not treat her like a nutter ! > > Hello, > My mother got badly bitten about a week ago after cleaning out all of the > tubes & hoses of the vacuum cleaner. Her eyes had been paricularly badly > btten & had swollen up, again she was having the horrid little things > crawling in her eyes, mouth, nose & other parts. As far as I can gather, > this had been subsiding. A couple of days ago she bought a few things, > including MSM capsules, which she had started taking. She phoned me up just > now telling me of her horrid experiences, though I'm not sure wheher she > meant today or yesterday (this can be confusing particularly due to time > differences). Seems her face ( & maybe body) went dark red, her eyelids, > mouth, (inside & out), half her tongue, her gums swelled up & a lump cam up > under her tongue came up. She went to the new doctor's & they were very > kind, telling her the mites were causing her an allergic reaction ( & they > don't think she's imagining it) & have put her onto steroids for 5 days & > say if her throat becomes any more swollen they will send her to hospital. > > Is it possible this is die off due to taking the MSM? She has not made any > such connection & I have not suggested it. Indeed, I told her to remember to > continue taking the MSM, hoping that perhaps this is die off & after a day > or two she might start feeling considerbly better. But is this right? Could > it be that the swelling is an allergic reaction to the MSM in which case > continuing taking it would make her worse? What should I do? Mostly should > she continue with the MSM? Is it likely that the MSM has nothing whatsoever > to do with the reaction? > > My mother thanks you all for your kind wishes. > > Thanks > Krys > > I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky, > And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by, > And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking, > And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking. > I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide > Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied; > And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying, > And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying. > I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life, > To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted knife; > And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover, > And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over. > > *Sea Fever* - Masefield > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Thanks Aggi. He is in hospice now and they are giving him comfort care; we have no idea how long he will hang on, as he has been a fighter his whole life to get this far, age 95, almost 96. I really thought he might make it into his 100's. Thanks for prayers. From: "Aggi" <aggi_assmann@...>bird mites Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 6:36:43 AMSubject: Re: Question Dear , I am utterly sorry that you have to deal with another loss within your family any time soon. I will keep you and your father in law in my prayers. Wishing you power and piece. Warm hugs, Aggi > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > Not everyone Krys has an allergic reaction to the bites from birdmites. My > > > husband did not, but I did. My reaction was not quite as severe as your > > > mom's, but it was severe. My bites were huge and angry red. My doctor put > > > me on Hydroxyzine HCL 50 mg tablets 1-3 tablets orally daily and it helped > > > me sleep too, but best of all, the intense inflammation from the bites > > > started to subside. I have no idea if this is a steroid, but I do know this > > > was the best thing my doctor did for me at my HMO. I wish I could take your > > > mom's pain, discomfort, worry and mites away. So hard to see family or hear > > > about their suffering. > > > > > > My father-in-law suffered a massive hemorrhagic stroke today and I just got > > > back from the hospital. We don't know if he will survive it. He is almost > > > 96 years of age on September 1. He is a retired physicist from NASA for his > > > career. I was going to his house in the morning to take him to a > > > cardiologist appointment. He called me earlier to ask me to come early to > > > dress him (he had never done that before) and he was on the floor when I > > > arrived and I called paramedics who arrived shortly thereafter. His left > > > side is totally placid. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > *From: *"Krys Brennand" <krys109uk@> > > > **"bird mites" < bird mites > > > > *Sent: *Thursday, July 14, 2011 10:59:22 AM > > > *Subject: * Question > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > My mother got badly bitten about a week ago after cleaning out all of the > > > tubes & hoses of the vacuum cleaner. Her eyes had been paricularly badly > > > btten & had swollen up, again she was having the horrid little things > > > crawling in her eyes, mouth, nose & other parts. As far as I can gather, > > > this had been subsiding. A couple of days ago she bought a few things, > > > including MSM capsules, which she had started taking. She phoned me up just > > > now telling me of her horrid experiences, though I'm not sure wheher she > > > meant today or yesterday (this can be confusing particularly due to time > > > differences). Seems her face ( & maybe body) went dark red, her eyelids, > > > mouth, (inside & out), half her tongue, her gums swelled up & a lump cam up > > > under her tongue came up. She went to the new doctor's & they were very > > > kind, telling her the mites were causing her an allergic reaction ( & they > > > don't think she's imagining it) & have put her onto steroids for 5 days & > > > say if her throat becomes any more swollen they will send her to hospital. > > > > > > Is it possible this is die off due to taking the MSM? She has not made any > > > such connection & I have not suggested it. Indeed, I told her to remember to > > > continue taking the MSM, hoping that perhaps this is die off & after a day > > > or two she might start feeling considerbly better. But is this right? Could > > > it be that the swelling is an allergic reaction to the MSM in which case > > > continuing taking it would make her worse? What should I do? Mostly should > > > she continue with the MSM? Is it likely that the MSM has nothing whatsoever > > > to do with the reaction? > > > > > > My mother thanks you all for your kind wishes. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Krys > > > > > > I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky, > > > And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by, > > > And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking, > > > And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking. > > > I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide > > > Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied; > > > And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying, > > > And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying. > > > I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life, > > > To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted > > > knife; > > > And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover, > > > And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over. > > > > > > *Sea Fever* - Masefield > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > They shut the road through the woods > > Seventy years ago. > > Weather and rain have undone it again, > > And now you would never know > > There was once a road through the woods > > Before they planted the trees. > > It is underneath the coppice and heath, > > And the thin anemones. > > Only the keeper sees > > That, where the ring-dove broods, > > And the badgers roll at ease, > > There was once a road through the woods. > > > > Yet, if you enter the woods > > Of a summer evening late, > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools > > Where the otter whistles his mate. > > (They fear not men in the woods, > > Because they see so few) > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew, > > Steadily cantering through > > The misty solitudes, > > As though they perfectly knew > > The old lost road through the woods�. > > But there is no road through the woods. > > * > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 My thoughts are with you & your family, .On 15 July 2011 19:15, <Goldstein@...> wrote: Thanks sbmom. He is in the dying process now and in hospice... we were told by neurologist today that his chances of pulling through are about 5% because of the type of stroke, his age, his condition, etc. The bleed covers about 1/3 of his brain mass and he has so many disabilities that it would be the best if he does die. We just want him to pass without pain and in peace. He has walked the good red road long enough and time for him to go. Thank you all birdmiters for your kindness... it is sad. He has had have a good life and all his friends, wife are all gone. He is the last of all of them at almost 96 years of age. Hugs, From: " southernbugmom " <zenmorgie@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 4:24:02 PMSubject: Re: Question - Sending healing thoughts to you and your father in law! He is in my prayers! Hugs! > > > ** > > > > > > Not everyone Krys has an allergic reaction to the bites from birdmites. My > > husband did not, but I did. My reaction was not quite as severe as your > > mom's, but it was severe. My bites were huge and angry red. My doctor put > > me on Hydroxyzine HCL 50 mg tablets 1-3 tablets orally daily and it helped > > me sleep too, but best of all, the intense inflammation from the bites > > started to subside. I have no idea if this is a steroid, but I do know this > > was the best thing my doctor did for me at my HMO. I wish I could take your > > mom's pain, discomfort, worry and mites away. So hard to see family or hear > > about their suffering. > > > > My father-in-law suffered a massive hemorrhagic stroke today and I just got > > back from the hospital. We don't know if he will survive it. He is almost > > 96 years of age on September 1. He is a retired physicist from NASA for his > > career. I was going to his house in the morning to take him to a > > cardiologist appointment. He called me earlier to ask me to come early to > > dress him (he had never done that before) and he was on the floor when I > > arrived and I called paramedics who arrived shortly thereafter. His left > > side is totally placid. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From: * " Krys Brennand " <krys109uk@...> > > ** " bird mites " <bird mites > > > *Sent: *Thursday, July 14, 2011 10:59:22 AM > > *Subject: * Question > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > My mother got badly bitten about a week ago after cleaning out all of the > > tubes & hoses of the vacuum cleaner. Her eyes had been paricularly badly > > btten & had swollen up, again she was having the horrid little things > > crawling in her eyes, mouth, nose & other parts. As far as I can gather, > > this had been subsiding. A couple of days ago she bought a few things, > > including MSM capsules, which she had started taking. She phoned me up just > > now telling me of her horrid experiences, though I'm not sure wheher she > > meant today or yesterday (this can be confusing particularly due to time > > differences). Seems her face ( & maybe body) went dark red, her eyelids, > > mouth, (inside & out), half her tongue, her gums swelled up & a lump cam up > > under her tongue came up. She went to the new doctor's & they were very > > kind, telling her the mites were causing her an allergic reaction ( & they > > don't think she's imagining it) & have put her onto steroids for 5 days & > > say if her throat becomes any more swollen they will send her to hospital. > > > > Is it possible this is die off due to taking the MSM? She has not made any > > such connection & I have not suggested it. Indeed, I told her to remember to > > continue taking the MSM, hoping that perhaps this is die off & after a day > > or two she might start feeling considerbly better. But is this right? Could > > it be that the swelling is an allergic reaction to the MSM in which case > > continuing taking it would make her worse? What should I do? Mostly should > > she continue with the MSM? Is it likely that the MSM has nothing whatsoever > > to do with the reaction? > > > > My mother thanks you all for your kind wishes. > > > > Thanks > > Krys > > > > I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky, > > And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by, > > And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking, > > And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking. > > I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide > > Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied; > > And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying, > > And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying. > > I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life, > > To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted > > knife; > > And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover, > > And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over. > > > > *Sea Fever* - Masefield > > > > > > > > > > -- > They shut the road through the woods > Seventy years ago. > Weather and rain have undone it again, > And now you would never know > There was once a road through the woods > Before they planted the trees. > It is underneath the coppice and heath, > And the thin anemones. > Only the keeper sees > That, where the ring-dove broods, > And the badgers roll at ease, > There was once a road through the woods. > > Yet, if you enter the woods > Of a summer evening late, > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools > Where the otter whistles his mate. > (They fear not men in the woods, > Because they see so few) > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, > And the swish of a skirt in the dew, > Steadily cantering through > The misty solitudes, > As though they perfectly knew > The old lost road through the woods�. > But there is no road through the woods. > * > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling > -- They shut the road through the woods Seventy years ago. Weather and rain have undone it again, And now you would never know There was once a road through the woods Before they planted the trees. It is underneath the coppice and heath, And the thin anemones. Only the keeper sees That, where the ring-dove broods, And the badgers roll at ease, There was once a road through the woods. Yet, if you enter the woods Of a summer evening late, When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools Where the otter whistles his mate. (They fear not men in the woods, Because they see so few) You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, And the swish of a skirt in the dew, Steadily cantering through The misty solitudes, As though they perfectly knew The old lost road through the woods…. But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Dear , Bless you and your husband. This is so hard to let a love one pass. We don't want to see them leave our life-ever. My prayers for his comfort and courage in the process. Soon he will find himself in a better state. Love to all of you. From: Goldstein@... <Goldstein@...>Subject: Re: Re: Questionbird mites Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 12:15 AM Thanks sbmom. He is in the dying process now and in hospice... we were told by neurologist today that his chances of pulling through are about 5% because of the type of stroke, his age, his condition, etc. The bleed covers about 1/3 of his brain mass and he has so many disabilities that it would be the best if he does die. We just want him to pass without pain and in peace. He has walked the good red road long enough and time for him to go. Thank you all birdmiters for your kindness... it is sad. He has had have a good life and all his friends, wife are all gone. He is the last of all of them at almost 96 years of age. Hugs, From: "southernbugmom" <zenmorgie@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 4:24:02 PMSubject: Re: Question - Sending healing thoughts to you and your father in law! He is in my prayers!Hugs!> > > **> >> >> > Not everyone Krys has an allergic reaction to the bites from birdmites. My> > husband did not, but I did. My reaction was not quite as severe as your> > mom's, but it was severe. My bites were huge and angry red. My doctor put> > me on Hydroxyzine HCL 50 mg tablets 1-3 tablets orally daily and it helped> > me sleep too, but best of all, the intense inflammation from the bites> > started to subside. I have no idea if this is a steroid, but I do know this> > was the best thing my doctor did for me at my HMO. I wish I could take your> > mom's pain, discomfort, worry and mites away. So hard to see family or hear> > about their suffering.> >> > My father-in-law suffered a massive hemorrhagic stroke today and I just got> > back from the hospital. We don't know if he will survive it. He is almost> > 96 years of age on September 1. He is a retired physicist from NASA for his> > career. I was going to his house in the morning to take him to a> > cardiologist appointment. He called me earlier to ask me to come early to> > dress him (he had never done that before) and he was on the floor when I> > arrived and I called paramedics who arrived shortly thereafter. His left> > side is totally placid.> >> > > >> > ------------------------------> > *From: *"Krys Brennand" <krys109uk@...>> > **"bird mites" <bird mites >> > *Sent: *Thursday, July 14, 2011 10:59:22 AM> > *Subject: * Question> >> >> >> >> > Hello,> > My mother got badly bitten about a week ago after cleaning out all of the> > tubes & hoses of the vacuum cleaner. Her eyes had been paricularly badly> > btten & had swollen up, again she was having the horrid little things> > crawling in her eyes, mouth, nose & other parts. As far as I can gather,> > this had been subsiding. A couple of days ago she bought a few things,> > including MSM capsules, which she had started taking. She phoned me up just> > now telling me of her horrid experiences, though I'm not sure wheher she> > meant today or yesterday (this can be confusing particularly due to time> > differences). Seems her face ( & maybe body) went dark red, her eyelids,> > mouth, (inside & out), half her tongue, her gums swelled up & a lump cam up> > under her tongue came up. She went to the new doctor's & they were very> > kind, telling her the mites were causing her an allergic reaction ( & they> > don't think she's imagining it) & have put her onto steroids for 5 days & > > say if her throat becomes any more swollen they will send her to hospital.> >> > Is it possible this is die off due to taking the MSM? She has not made any> > such connection & I have not suggested it. Indeed, I told her to remember to> > continue taking the MSM, hoping that perhaps this is die off & after a day> > or two she might start feeling considerbly better. But is this right? Could> > it be that the swelling is an allergic reaction to the MSM in which case> > continuing taking it would make her worse? What should I do? Mostly should> > she continue with the MSM? Is it likely that the MSM has nothing whatsoever> > to do with the reaction?> >> > My mother thanks you all for your kind wishes.> >> > Thanks> > Krys> >> > I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,> > And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,> > And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,> > And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.> > I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide> > Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;> > And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,> > And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.> > I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,> > To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted> > knife;> > And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,> > And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over.> >> > *Sea Fever* - Masefield> >> > > >> > > > -- > They shut the road through the woods> Seventy years ago.> Weather and rain have undone it again,> And now you would never know> There was once a road through the woods> Before they planted the trees.> It is underneath the coppice and heath,> And the thin anemones.> Only the keeper sees> That, where the ring-dove broods,> And the badgers roll at ease,> There was once a road through the woods.> > Yet, if you enter the woods> Of a summer evening late,> When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools> Where the otter whistles his mate.> (They fear not men in the woods,> Because they see so few)> You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,> And the swish of a skirt in the dew,> Steadily cantering through> The misty solitudes,> As though they perfectly knew> The old lost road through the woods�.> But there is no road through the woods.> *> The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Yes, , I also believe that to be true. Thank you for kind thoughts and words. His body has been giving out for years, but he is a real fighter. The medical personnel said the tough ones live the longest. And he is tough. I don't know how he has done it with all his maladies.Sent from my iPodOn Jul 16, 2011, at 10:51 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote: Dear , Bless you and your husband. This is so hard to let a love one pass. We don't want to see them leave our life-ever. My prayers for his comfort and courage in the process. Soon he will find himself in a better state. Love to all of you. From: Goldstein@... <Goldstein@...>Subject: Re: Re: Questionbird mites Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 12:15 AM Thanks sbmom. He is in the dying process now and in hospice... we were told by neurologist today that his chances of pulling through are about 5% because of the type of stroke, his age, his condition, etc. The bleed covers about 1/3 of his brain mass and he has so many disabilities that it would be the best if he does die. We just want him to pass without pain and in peace. He has walked the good red road long enough and time for him to go. Thank you all birdmiters for your kindness... it is sad. He has had have a good life and all his friends, wife are all gone. He is the last of all of them at almost 96 years of age. Hugs, From: "southernbugmom" <zenmorgie@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 4:24:02 PMSubject: Re: Question - Sending healing thoughts to you and your father in law! He is in my prayers!Hugs!> > > **> >> >> > Not everyone Krys has an allergic reaction to the bites from birdmites. My> > husband did not, but I did. My reaction was not quite as severe as your> > mom's, but it was severe. My bites were huge and angry red. My doctor put> > me on Hydroxyzine HCL 50 mg tablets 1-3 tablets orally daily and it helped> > me sleep too, but best of all, the intense inflammation from the bites> > started to subside. I have no idea if this is a steroid, but I do know this> > was the best thing my doctor did for me at my HMO. I wish I could take your> > mom's pain, discomfort, worry and mites away. So hard to see family or hear> > about their suffering.> >> > My father-in-law suffered a massive hemorrhagic stroke today and I just got> > back from the hospital. We don't know if he will survive it. He is almost> > 96 years of age on September 1. He is a retired physicist from NASA for his> > career. I was going to his house in the morning to take him to a> > cardiologist appointment. He called me earlier to ask me to come early to> > dress him (he had never done that before) and he was on the floor when I> > arrived and I called paramedics who arrived shortly thereafter. His left> > side is totally placid.> >> > > >> > ------------------------------> > *From: *"Krys Brennand" <krys109uk@...>> > **"bird mites" <bird mites >> > *Sent: *Thursday, July 14, 2011 10:59:22 AM> > *Subject: * Question> >> >> >> >> > Hello,> > My mother got badly bitten about a week ago after cleaning out all of the> > tubes & hoses of the vacuum cleaner. Her eyes had been paricularly badly> > btten & had swollen up, again she was having the horrid little things> > crawling in her eyes, mouth, nose & other parts. As far as I can gather,> > this had been subsiding. A couple of days ago she bought a few things,> > including MSM capsules, which she had started taking. She phoned me up just> > now telling me of her horrid experiences, though I'm not sure wheher she> > meant today or yesterday (this can be confusing particularly due to time> > differences). Seems her face ( & maybe body) went dark red, her eyelids,> > mouth, (inside & out), half her tongue, her gums swelled up & a lump cam up> > under her tongue came up. She went to the new doctor's & they were very> > kind, telling her the mites were causing her an allergic reaction ( & they> > don't think she's imagining it) & have put her onto steroids for 5 days & > > say if her throat becomes any more swollen they will send her to hospital.> >> > Is it possible this is die off due to taking the MSM? She has not made any> > such connection & I have not suggested it. Indeed, I told her to remember to> > continue taking the MSM, hoping that perhaps this is die off & after a day> > or two she might start feeling considerbly better. But is this right? Could> > it be that the swelling is an allergic reaction to the MSM in which case> > continuing taking it would make her worse? What should I do? Mostly should> > she continue with the MSM? Is it likely that the MSM has nothing whatsoever> > to do with the reaction?> >> > My mother thanks you all for your kind wishes.> >> > Thanks> > Krys> >> > I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,> > And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,> > And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,> > And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.> > I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide> > Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;> > And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,> > And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.> > I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,> > To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted> > knife;> > And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,> > And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over.> >> > *Sea Fever* - Masefield> >> > > >> > > > -- > They shut the road through the woods> Seventy years ago.> Weather and rain have undone it again,> And now you would never know> There was once a road through the woods> Before they planted the trees.> It is underneath the coppice and heath,> And the thin anemones.> Only the keeper sees> That, where the ring-dove broods,> And the badgers roll at ease,> There was once a road through the woods.> > Yet, if you enter the woods> Of a summer evening late,> When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools> Where the otter whistles his mate.> (They fear not men in the woods,> Because they see so few)> You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,> And the swish of a skirt in the dew,> Steadily cantering through> The misty solitudes,> As though they perfectly knew> The old lost road through the woods�.> But there is no road through the woods.> *> The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Aggi, I have enjoyed your recipie and even used the combination on fish - yum! Still no movement on my head since the Doxy. I did that for about 3 weeks. I am not doing it now as I think they may be gone and I want to keep the anti-fungal oils in my hair. This will be the 3rd day on my anti-fungal meds. Hoping it works well as I hertzed about 60 plastic dumbell hyae (I think what you get when you cross a fungus with a virus) and they are falling out of my skin or sending more fungus out of them. Long bath fighting this new crop last night. What is your update? Love and light, From: Aggi <aggi_assmann@...>Subject: Re: Questionbird mites Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 1:41 PM Hello Krys, I hate saying this, because I highly recommended the MSM to you for your mother, but this really sounds like a severe allergic reactionto the sulfur. Just never heard of anyone getting in this state from the mites. I am so glad she's got a doctor now how is listening to her and does not treat her like a nutter !>> Hello,> My mother got badly bitten about a week ago after cleaning out all of the> tubes & hoses of the vacuum cleaner. Her eyes had been paricularly badly> btten & had swollen up, again she was having the horrid little things> crawling in her eyes, mouth, nose & other parts. As far as I can gather,> this had been subsiding. A couple of days ago she bought a few things,> including MSM capsules, which she had started taking. She phoned me up just> now telling me of her horrid experiences, though I'm not sure wheher she> meant today or yesterday (this can be confusing particularly due to time> differences). Seems her face ( & maybe body) went dark red, her eyelids,> mouth, (inside & out), half her tongue, her gums swelled up & a lump cam up> under her tongue came up. She went to the new doctor's & they were very> kind, telling her the mites were causing her an allergic reaction ( & they> don't think she's imagining it) & have put her onto steroids for 5 days & > say if her throat becomes any more swollen they will send her to hospital.> > Is it possible this is die off due to taking the MSM? She has not made any> such connection & I have not suggested it. Indeed, I told her to remember to> continue taking the MSM, hoping that perhaps this is die off & after a day> or two she might start feeling considerbly better. But is this right? Could> it be that the swelling is an allergic reaction to the MSM in which case> continuing taking it would make her worse? What should I do? Mostly should> she continue with the MSM? Is it likely that the MSM has nothing whatsoever> to do with the reaction?> > My mother thanks you all for your kind wishes.> > Thanks> Krys> > I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,> And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,> And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,> And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.> I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide> Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;> And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,> And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.> I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,> To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted knife;> And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,> And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over.> > *Sea Fever* - Masefield> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 I am on Itraconazole for 2 months now, it has been very helpful, as has cholestiramine- binds to mold toxins and removes them via the gut.AandrayaOn Jul 20, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Benton wrote: Aggi, I have enjoyed your recipie and even used the combination on fish - yum! Still no movement on my head since the Doxy. I did that for about 3 weeks. I am not doing it now as I think they may be gone and I want to keep the anti-fungal oils in my hair. This will be the 3rd day on my anti-fungal meds. Hoping it works well as I hertzed about 60 plastic dumbell hyae (I think what you get when you cross a fungus with a virus) and they are falling out of my skin or sending more fungus out of them. Long bath fighting this new crop last night. What is your update? Love and light, From: Aggi <aggi_assmann@...>Subject: Re: Questionbird mites Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 1:41 PM Hello Krys, I hate saying this, because I highly recommended the MSM to you for your mother, but this really sounds like a severe allergic reactionto the sulfur. Just never heard of anyone getting in this state from the mites. I am so glad she's got a doctor now how is listening to her and does not treat her like a nutter !>> Hello,> My mother got badly bitten about a week ago after cleaning out all of the> tubes & hoses of the vacuum cleaner. Her eyes had been paricularly badly> btten & had swollen up, again she was having the horrid little things> crawling in her eyes, mouth, nose & other parts. As far as I can gather,> this had been subsiding. A couple of days ago she bought a few things,> including MSM capsules, which she had started taking. She phoned me up just> now telling me of her horrid experiences, though I'm not sure wheher she> meant today or yesterday (this can be confusing particularly due to time> differences). Seems her face ( & maybe body) went dark red, her eyelids,> mouth, (inside & out), half her tongue, her gums swelled up & a lump cam up> under her tongue came up. She went to the new doctor's & they were very> kind, telling her the mites were causing her an allergic reaction ( & they> don't think she's imagining it) & have put her onto steroids for 5 days & > say if her throat becomes any more swollen they will send her to hospital.> > Is it possible this is die off due to taking the MSM? She has not made any> such connection & I have not suggested it. Indeed, I told her to remember to> continue taking the MSM, hoping that perhaps this is die off & after a day> or two she might start feeling considerbly better. But is this right? Could> it be that the swelling is an allergic reaction to the MSM in which case> continuing taking it would make her worse? What should I do? Mostly should> she continue with the MSM? Is it likely that the MSM has nothing whatsoever> to do with the reaction?> > My mother thanks you all for your kind wishes.> > Thanks> Krys> > I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,> And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,> And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,> And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.> I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide> Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;> And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,> And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.> I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,> To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted knife;> And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,> And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over.> > *Sea Fever* - Masefield> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 I wanted to add, the insects finally went away after months on antibiotics. They were everywhere in my living environment, in my skin, etc.AandrayaOn Jul 20, 2011, at 11:34 AM, Aandraya Da Silva wrote: I am on Itraconazole for 2 months now, it has been very helpful, as has cholestiramine- binds to mold toxins and removes them via the gut.AandrayaOn Jul 20, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Benton wrote: Aggi, I have enjoyed your recipie and even used the combination on fish - yum! Still no movement on my head since the Doxy. I did that for about 3 weeks. I am not doing it now as I think they may be gone and I want to keep the anti-fungal oils in my hair. This will be the 3rd day on my anti-fungal meds. Hoping it works well as I hertzed about 60 plastic dumbell hyae (I think what you get when you cross a fungus with a virus) and they are falling out of my skin or sending more fungus out of them. Long bath fighting this new crop last night. What is your update? Love and light, From: Aggi <aggi_assmann@...>Subject: Re: Questionbird mites Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 1:41 PM Hello Krys, I hate saying this, because I highly recommended the MSM to you for your mother, but this really sounds like a severe allergic reactionto the sulfur. Just never heard of anyone getting in this state from the mites. I am so glad she's got a doctor now how is listening to her and does not treat her like a nutter !>> Hello,> My mother got badly bitten about a week ago after cleaning out all of the> tubes & hoses of the vacuum cleaner. Her eyes had been paricularly badly> btten & had swollen up, again she was having the horrid little things> crawling in her eyes, mouth, nose & other parts. As far as I can gather,> this had been subsiding. A couple of days ago she bought a few things,> including MSM capsules, which she had started taking. She phoned me up just> now telling me of her horrid experiences, though I'm not sure wheher she> meant today or yesterday (this can be confusing particularly due to time> differences). Seems her face ( & maybe body) went dark red, her eyelids,> mouth, (inside & out), half her tongue, her gums swelled up & a lump cam up> under her tongue came up. She went to the new doctor's & they were very> kind, telling her the mites were causing her an allergic reaction ( & they> don't think she's imagining it) & have put her onto steroids for 5 days & > say if her throat becomes any more swollen they will send her to hospital.> > Is it possible this is die off due to taking the MSM? She has not made any> such connection & I have not suggested it. Indeed, I told her to remember to> continue taking the MSM, hoping that perhaps this is die off & after a day> or two she might start feeling considerbly better. But is this right? Could> it be that the swelling is an allergic reaction to the MSM in which case> continuing taking it would make her worse? What should I do? Mostly should> she continue with the MSM? Is it likely that the MSM has nothing whatsoever> to do with the reaction?> > My mother thanks you all for your kind wishes.> > Thanks> Krys> > I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,> And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,> And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,> And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.> I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide> Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;> And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,> And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.> I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,> To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted knife;> And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,> And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over.> > *Sea Fever* - Masefield> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Glad to hear you got rid of them. What kind of antibiotics did you take?KRCeciliaFrom: Aandraya Da Silva <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Wed, July 20, 2011 6:40:38 PMSubject: Re: Re: Question I wanted to add, the insects finally went away after months on antibiotics. They were everywhere in my living environment, in my skin, etc.AandrayaOn Jul 20, 2011, at 11:34 AM, Aandraya Da Silva wrote: I am on Itraconazole for 2 months now, it has been very helpful, as has cholestiramine- binds to mold toxins and removes them via the gut.AandrayaOn Jul 20, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Benton wrote: Aggi, I have enjoyed your recipie and even used the combination on fish - yum! Still no movement on my head since the Doxy. I did that for about 3 weeks. I am not doing it now as I think they may be gone and I want to keep the anti-fungal oils in my hair. This will be the 3rd day on my anti-fungal meds. Hoping it works well as I hertzed about 60 plastic dumbell hyae (I think what you get when you cross a fungus with a virus) and they are falling out of my skin or sending more fungus out of them. Long bath fighting this new crop last night. What is your update? Love and light, From: Aggi <aggi_assmann@...>Subject: Re: Questionbird mites Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 1:41 PM Hello Krys, I hate saying this, because I highly recommended the MSM to you for your mother, but this really sounds like a severe allergic reactionto the sulfur. Just never heard of anyone getting in this state from the mites. I am so glad she's got a doctor now how is listening to her and does not treat her like a nutter !>> Hello,> My mother got badly bitten about a week ago after cleaning out all of the> tubes & hoses of the vacuum cleaner. Her eyes had been paricularly badly> btten & had swollen up, again she was having the horrid little things> crawling in her eyes, mouth, nose & other parts. As far as I can gather,> this had been subsiding. A couple of days ago she bought a few things,> including MSM capsules, which she had started taking. She phoned me up just> now telling me of her horrid experiences, though I'm not sure wheher she> meant today or yesterday (this can be confusing particularly due to time> differences). Seems her face ( & maybe body) went dark red, her eyelids,> mouth, (inside & out), half her tongue, her gums swelled up & a lump cam up> under her tongue came up. She went to the new doctor's & they were very> kind, telling her the mites were causing her an allergic reaction ( & they> don't think she's imagining it) & have put her onto steroids for 5 days & > say if her throat becomes any more swollen they will send her to hospital.> > Is it possible this is die off due to taking the MSM? She has not made any> such connection & I have not suggested it. Indeed, I told her to remember to> continue taking the MSM, hoping that perhaps this is die off & after a day> or two she might start feeling considerbly better. But is this right? Could> it be that the swelling is an allergic reaction to the MSM in which case> continuing taking it would make her worse? What should I do? Mostly should> she continue with the MSM? Is it likely that the MSM has nothing whatsoever> to do with the reaction?> > My mother thanks you all for your kind wishes.> > Thanks> Krys> > I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,> And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,> And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,> And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.> I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide> Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;> And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,> And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.> I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,> To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted knife;> And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,> And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over.> > *Sea Fever* - Masefield> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Hi Aandraya, It is interesting you mentioned cholestiramine removing toxins. I have noticed that the fluid and wrinkles caused by it on my face are draining from my forehead to my eyes, eyes to my nose, nose to my jaws. Puffiness and wrinkles are slowly going away! I am just on the Itraconazole for 3 days now, but this started 2 days before I started taking the med. I'm in the 8th weak of an anti-fungal diet. I suspect histoplasmosis. Is this the same for you? Love and light, From: Aggi <aggi_assmann@...>Subject: Re: Questionbird mites Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 1:41 PM Hello Krys, I hate saying this, because I highly recommended the MSM to you for your mother, but this really sounds like a severe allergic reactionto the sulfur. Just never heard of anyone getting in this state from the mites. I am so glad she's got a doctor now how is listening to her and does not treat her like a nutter !>> Hello,> My mother got badly bitten about a week ago after cleaning out all of the> tubes & hoses of the vacuum cleaner. Her eyes had been paricularly badly> btten & had swollen up, again she was having the horrid little things> crawling in her eyes, mouth, nose & other parts. As far as I can gather,> this had been subsiding. A couple of days ago she bought a few things,> including MSM capsules, which she had started taking. She phoned me up just> now telling me of her horrid experiences, though I'm not sure wheher she> meant today or yesterday (this can be confusing particularly due to time> differences). Seems her face ( & maybe body) went dark red, her eyelids,> mouth, (inside & out), half her tongue, her gums swelled up & a lump cam up> under her tongue came up. She went to the new doctor's & they were very> kind, telling her the mites were causing her an allergic reaction ( & they> don't think she's imagining it) & have put her onto steroids for 5 days & > say if her throat becomes any more swollen they will send her to hospital.> > Is it possible this is die off due to taking the MSM? She has not made any> such connection & I have not suggested it. Indeed, I told her to remember to> continue taking the MSM, hoping that perhaps this is die off & after a day> or two she might start feeling considerbly better. But is this right? Could> it be that the swelling is an allergic reaction to the MSM in which case> continuing taking it would make her worse? What should I do? Mostly should> she continue with the MSM? Is it likely that the MSM has nothing whatsoever> to do with the reaction?> > My mother thanks you all for your kind wishes.> > Thanks> Krys> > I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,> And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,> And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,> And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.> I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide> Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;> And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,> And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.> I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,> To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted knife;> And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,> And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over.> > *Sea Fever* - Masefield> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 -I wasn't tested for histoplasmosis but it very well could be one of the infections I have, I also suspect aspergillus. Since taking cholestiramine my inflammation has gone down as well- hard puffy areas on my face and body. I've been on the Paleo diet for 9 months and that has been a great help as well. I also take Levaquin for Bartonella(a Lyme coinfection), Ceftin, and Bactrim, and as I mentioned before- Itraconazole. I do lots of detox with chlorella, cholest., live green clay, sauna, epson salt baths, and of course water.Another thing that has helped me get my health back is the HPU protocol by Dr. Klinghardt. It is easy and cheap, sort of a form of Pyrroluria, but different.AandrayaOn Jul 21, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Benton wrote: Hi Aandraya, It is interesting you mentioned cholestiramine removing toxins. I have noticed that the fluid and wrinkles caused by it on my face are draining from my forehead to my eyes, eyes to my nose, nose to my jaws. Puffiness and wrinkles are slowly going away! I am just on the Itraconazole for 3 days now, but this started 2 days before I started taking the med. I'm in the 8th weak of an anti-fungal diet. I suspect histoplasmosis. Is this the same for you? Love and light, From: Aggi <aggi_assmann@...>Subject: Re: Questionbird mites Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 1:41 PM Hello Krys, I hate saying this, because I highly recommended the MSM to you for your mother, but this really sounds like a severe allergic reactionto the sulfur. Just never heard of anyone getting in this state from the mites. I am so glad she's got a doctor now how is listening to her and does not treat her like a nutter !>> Hello,> My mother got badly bitten about a week ago after cleaning out all of the> tubes & hoses of the vacuum cleaner. Her eyes had been paricularly badly> btten & had swollen up, again she was having the horrid little things> crawling in her eyes, mouth, nose & other parts. As far as I can gather,> this had been subsiding. A couple of days ago she bought a few things,> including MSM capsules, which she had started taking. She phoned me up just> now telling me of her horrid experiences, though I'm not sure wheher she> meant today or yesterday (this can be confusing particularly due to time> differences). Seems her face ( & maybe body) went dark red, her eyelids,> mouth, (inside & out), half her tongue, her gums swelled up & a lump cam up> under her tongue came up. She went to the new doctor's & they were very> kind, telling her the mites were causing her an allergic reaction ( & they> don't think she's imagining it) & have put her onto steroids for 5 days & > say if her throat becomes any more swollen they will send her to hospital.> > Is it possible this is die off due to taking the MSM? She has not made any> such connection & I have not suggested it. Indeed, I told her to remember to> continue taking the MSM, hoping that perhaps this is die off & after a day> or two she might start feeling considerbly better. But is this right? Could> it be that the swelling is an allergic reaction to the MSM in which case> continuing taking it would make her worse? What should I do? Mostly should> she continue with the MSM? Is it likely that the MSM has nothing whatsoever> to do with the reaction?> > My mother thanks you all for your kind wishes.> > Thanks> Krys> > I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,> And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,> And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,> And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.> I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide> Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;> And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,> And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.> I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,> To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted knife;> And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,> And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over.> > *Sea Fever* - Masefield> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Hi Aandray, Thanks for the information. I am just about totally better. I'd say 98%. My diet excludes any carbohydrates, starches, and sugar. All feed fungus. I created an anti-fungal oil which does the trick. 16 oz. of coconut oil, and 100 drops of the following essential oils: lemon eycaliptus, clove bud, bitter orange, ginger, tee tree, aretmesia, and I add oregano according to how much I want to smell like a pizzia:) A bath in Arm and Hammer Super Soda Wash works as a poltus pulling toxins stuff and from sores (when I had them). A bath using olive leaf powder as a scrub helped to find and remove the unseen mycelium. I rub it around an area for about 1 minute, rinse, and then start rubbing with my fingers. I can feel the mycelium strings and buds and rub them up and off. I do those bathes every 3 days as a borometer to see where I am in the process. A cup of Lysol in a large bath once a week as it kills the fungus. The environment must be scrubbed and cleaned with lysol and steelwool pads to ensure new risoids are removed and dryer seems to be void of fungus,now. At this point, no movement on head for 1 month, no more plastic from skin, no "weird" things on my skin, no fungal mats in my hair, very little puffiness left, no dry cough, no bugs or mites, finding fewer and fewer risoids in environment as some spores do make it through cleaning, and am almost ready to introduce semi-anti-fugal foods back into my diet like lima beans and squash. Seems I had herpetic dermatitis, histoplasmosis, and a bacterial or amebia infection of the scalp. (The latter I got rid of by disolving a Doxy pill in 4 tablespoons of water and massaging into my scalp for 3 weeks). I don't have Lyme, so I needn't attend to that. I'm glad to hear you are getting better. We each get so many different things with this issue, we must each be our own detective. Since I was infected by abandon bird's nests, my diagnosis makes sense because histoplasmosis is found in bird and bat droppings. Love and light, From: Aggi <aggi_assmann@...>Subject: Re: Questionbird mites Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 1:41 PM Hello Krys, I hate saying this, because I highly recommended the MSM to you for your mother, but this really sounds like a severe allergic reactionto the sulfur. Just never heard of anyone getting in this state from the mites. I am so glad she's got a doctor now how is listening to her and does not treat her like a nutter !>> Hello,> My mother got badly bitten about a week ago after cleaning out all of the> tubes & hoses of the vacuum cleaner. Her eyes had been paricularly badly> btten & had swollen up, again she was having the horrid little things> crawling in her eyes, mouth, nose & other parts. As far as I can gather,> this had been subsiding. A couple of days ago she bought a few things,> including MSM capsules, which she had started taking. She phoned me up just> now telling me of her horrid experiences, though I'm not sure wheher she> meant today or yesterday (this can be confusing particularly due to time> differences). Seems her face ( & maybe body) went dark red, her eyelids,> mouth, (inside & out), half her tongue, her gums swelled up & a lump cam up> under her tongue came up. She went to the new doctor's & they were very> kind, telling her the mites were causing her an allergic reaction ( & they> don't think she's imagining it) & have put her onto steroids for 5 days & > say if her throat becomes any more swollen they will send her to hospital.> > Is it possible this is die off due to taking the MSM? She has not made any> such connection & I have not suggested it. Indeed, I told her to remember to> continue taking the MSM, hoping that perhaps this is die off & after a day> or two she might start feeling considerbly better. But is this right? Could> it be that the swelling is an allergic reaction to the MSM in which case> continuing taking it would make her worse? What should I do? Mostly should> she continue with the MSM? Is it likely that the MSM has nothing whatsoever> to do with the reaction?> > My mother thanks you all for your kind wishes.> > Thanks> Krys> > I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,> And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,> And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,> And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.> I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide> Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;> And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,> And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.> I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,> To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted knife;> And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,> And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over.> > *Sea Fever* - Masefield> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 Cecilia-I'm not sure if I responded to your question or not. I have taken Doxicycline, Bactrim, Ceftin, and Levaquin along with the antifungals- intraconazole and cholestiramineAandrayaOn Jul 21, 2011, at 5:42 AM, Cecilia Borg wrote: Glad to hear you got rid of them. What kind of antibiotics did you take?KRCeciliaFrom: Aandraya Da Silva <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Wed, July 20, 2011 6:40:38 PMSubject: Re: Re: Question I wanted to add, the insects finally went away after months on antibiotics. They were everywhere in my living environment, in my skin, etc.AandrayaOn Jul 20, 2011, at 11:34 AM, Aandraya Da Silva wrote: I am on Itraconazole for 2 months now, it has been very helpful, as has cholestiramine- binds to mold toxins and removes them via the gut.AandrayaOn Jul 20, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Benton wrote: Aggi, I have enjoyed your recipie and even used the combination on fish - yum! Still no movement on my head since the Doxy. I did that for about 3 weeks. I am not doing it now as I think they may be gone and I want to keep the anti-fungal oils in my hair. This will be the 3rd day on my anti-fungal meds. Hoping it works well as I hertzed about 60 plastic dumbell hyae (I think what you get when you cross a fungus with a virus) and they are falling out of my skin or sending more fungus out of them. Long bath fighting this new crop last night. What is your update? Love and light, From: Aggi <aggi_assmann@...>Subject: Re: Questionbird mites Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 1:41 PM Hello Krys, I hate saying this, because I highly recommended the MSM to you for your mother, but this really sounds like a severe allergic reactionto the sulfur. Just never heard of anyone getting in this state from the mites. I am so glad she's got a doctor now how is listening to her and does not treat her like a nutter !>> Hello,> My mother got badly bitten about a week ago after cleaning out all of the> tubes & hoses of the vacuum cleaner. Her eyes had been paricularly badly> btten & had swollen up, again she was having the horrid little things> crawling in her eyes, mouth, nose & other parts. As far as I can gather,> this had been subsiding. A couple of days ago she bought a few things,> including MSM capsules, which she had started taking. She phoned me up just> now telling me of her horrid experiences, though I'm not sure wheher she> meant today or yesterday (this can be confusing particularly due to time> differences). Seems her face ( & maybe body) went dark red, her eyelids,> mouth, (inside & out), half her tongue, her gums swelled up & a lump cam up> under her tongue came up. She went to the new doctor's & they were very> kind, telling her the mites were causing her an allergic reaction ( & they> don't think she's imagining it) & have put her onto steroids for 5 days & > say if her throat becomes any more swollen they will send her to hospital.> > Is it possible this is die off due to taking the MSM? She has not made any> such connection & I have not suggested it. Indeed, I told her to remember to> continue taking the MSM, hoping that perhaps this is die off & after a day> or two she might start feeling considerbly better. But is this right? Could> it be that the swelling is an allergic reaction to the MSM in which case> continuing taking it would make her worse? What should I do? Mostly should> she continue with the MSM? Is it likely that the MSM has nothing whatsoever> to do with the reaction?> > My mother thanks you all for your kind wishes.> > Thanks> Krys> > I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,> And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,> And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,> And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.> I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide> Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;> And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,> And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.> I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,> To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted knife;> And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,> And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over.> > *Sea Fever* - Masefield> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 Cecilia-I'm not sure if I responded to your question or not. I have taken Doxicycline, Bactrim, Ceftin, and Levaquin along with the antifungals- intraconazole and cholestiramineAandrayaOn Jul 21, 2011, at 5:42 AM, Cecilia Borg wrote: Glad to hear you got rid of them. What kind of antibiotics did you take?KRCeciliaFrom: Aandraya Da Silva <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Wed, July 20, 2011 6:40:38 PMSubject: Re: Re: Question I wanted to add, the insects finally went away after months on antibiotics. They were everywhere in my living environment, in my skin, etc.AandrayaOn Jul 20, 2011, at 11:34 AM, Aandraya Da Silva wrote: I am on Itraconazole for 2 months now, it has been very helpful, as has cholestiramine- binds to mold toxins and removes them via the gut.AandrayaOn Jul 20, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Benton wrote: Aggi, I have enjoyed your recipie and even used the combination on fish - yum! Still no movement on my head since the Doxy. I did that for about 3 weeks. I am not doing it now as I think they may be gone and I want to keep the anti-fungal oils in my hair. This will be the 3rd day on my anti-fungal meds. Hoping it works well as I hertzed about 60 plastic dumbell hyae (I think what you get when you cross a fungus with a virus) and they are falling out of my skin or sending more fungus out of them. Long bath fighting this new crop last night. What is your update? Love and light, From: Aggi <aggi_assmann@...>Subject: Re: Questionbird mites Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 1:41 PM Hello Krys, I hate saying this, because I highly recommended the MSM to you for your mother, but this really sounds like a severe allergic reactionto the sulfur. Just never heard of anyone getting in this state from the mites. I am so glad she's got a doctor now how is listening to her and does not treat her like a nutter !>> Hello,> My mother got badly bitten about a week ago after cleaning out all of the> tubes & hoses of the vacuum cleaner. Her eyes had been paricularly badly> btten & had swollen up, again she was having the horrid little things> crawling in her eyes, mouth, nose & other parts. As far as I can gather,> this had been subsiding. A couple of days ago she bought a few things,> including MSM capsules, which she had started taking. She phoned me up just> now telling me of her horrid experiences, though I'm not sure wheher she> meant today or yesterday (this can be confusing particularly due to time> differences). Seems her face ( & maybe body) went dark red, her eyelids,> mouth, (inside & out), half her tongue, her gums swelled up & a lump cam up> under her tongue came up. She went to the new doctor's & they were very> kind, telling her the mites were causing her an allergic reaction ( & they> don't think she's imagining it) & have put her onto steroids for 5 days & > say if her throat becomes any more swollen they will send her to hospital.> > Is it possible this is die off due to taking the MSM? She has not made any> such connection & I have not suggested it. Indeed, I told her to remember to> continue taking the MSM, hoping that perhaps this is die off & after a day> or two she might start feeling considerbly better. But is this right? Could> it be that the swelling is an allergic reaction to the MSM in which case> continuing taking it would make her worse? What should I do? Mostly should> she continue with the MSM? Is it likely that the MSM has nothing whatsoever> to do with the reaction?> > My mother thanks you all for your kind wishes.> > Thanks> Krys> > I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,> And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,> And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,> And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.> I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide> Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;> And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,> And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.> I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,> To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted knife;> And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,> And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over.> > *Sea Fever* - Masefield> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 Hi AandrayaDo you have any remnants of symptoms left from all of this? I've been on Doxycycline, Bactrim, Cephlex, Flagyl, and for fungal Nystatin and Diflucan. I have several antibiotics in the wings, but have not decided to take them as well. I did fill the prescriptions. Not all were taken together, but one antibiotic with one anti-fungal. Do you have any idea which of these helped the most, if you did notice anything? The Flagyl is often given for protozoan parasites and husband and I have had to do rounds of it several times for parasites.From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 11:28:24 AMSubject: Re: Re: Question Cecilia-I'm not sure if I responded to your question or not. I have taken Doxicycline, Bactrim, Ceftin, and Levaquin along with the antifungals- intraconazole and cholestiramineAandrayaOn Jul 21, 2011, at 5:42 AM, Cecilia Borg wrote: Glad to hear you got rid of them. What kind of antibiotics did you take?KRCeciliaFrom: Aandraya Da Silva <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Wed, July 20, 2011 6:40:38 PMSubject: Re: Re: Question I wanted to add, the insects finally went away after months on antibiotics. They were everywhere in my living environment, in my skin, etc.AandrayaOn Jul 20, 2011, at 11:34 AM, Aandraya Da Silva wrote: I am on Itraconazole for 2 months now, it has been very helpful, as has cholestiramine- binds to mold toxins and removes them via the gut.AandrayaOn Jul 20, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Benton wrote: Aggi, I have enjoyed your recipie and even used the combination on fish - yum! Still no movement on my head since the Doxy. I did that for about 3 weeks. I am not doing it now as I think they may be gone and I want to keep the anti-fungal oils in my hair. This will be the 3rd day on my anti-fungal meds. Hoping it works well as I hertzed about 60 plastic dumbell hyae (I think what you get when you cross a fungus with a virus) and they are falling out of my skin or sending more fungus out of them. Long bath fighting this new crop last night. What is your update? Love and light, From: Aggi <aggi_assmann@...>Subject: Re: Questionbird mites Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 1:41 PM Hello Krys, I hate saying this, because I highly recommended the MSM to you for your mother, but this really sounds like a severe allergic reactionto the sulfur. Just never heard of anyone getting in this state from the mites. I am so glad she's got a doctor now how is listening to her and does not treat her like a nutter !>> Hello,> My mother got badly bitten about a week ago after cleaning out all of the> tubes & hoses of the vacuum cleaner. Her eyes had been paricularly badly> btten & had swollen up, again she was having the horrid little things> crawling in her eyes, mouth, nose & other parts. As far as I can gather,> this had been subsiding. A couple of days ago she bought a few things,> including MSM capsules, which she had started taking. She phoned me up just> now telling me of her horrid experiences, though I'm not sure wheher she> meant today or yesterday (this can be confusing particularly due to time> differences). Seems her face ( & maybe body) went dark red, her eyelids,> mouth, (inside & out), half her tongue, her gums swelled up & a lump cam up> under her tongue came up. She went to the new doctor's & they were very> kind, telling her the mites were causing her an allergic reaction ( & they> don't think she's imagining it) & have put her onto steroids for 5 days & > say if her throat becomes any more swollen they will send her to hospital.> > Is it possible this is die off due to taking the MSM? She has not made any> such connection & I have not suggested it. Indeed, I told her to remember to> continue taking the MSM, hoping that perhaps this is die off & after a day> or two she might start feeling considerbly better. But is this right? Could> it be that the swelling is an allergic reaction to the MSM in which case> continuing taking it would make her worse? What should I do? Mostly should> she continue with the MSM? Is it likely that the MSM has nothing whatsoever> to do with the reaction?> > My mother thanks you all for your kind wishes.> > Thanks> Krys> > I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,> And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,> And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,> And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.> I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide> Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;> And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,> And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.> I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,> To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted knife;> And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,> And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over.> > *Sea Fever* - Masefield> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 Hi AandrayaDo you have any remnants of symptoms left from all of this? I've been on Doxycycline, Bactrim, Cephlex, Flagyl, and for fungal Nystatin and Diflucan. I have several antibiotics in the wings, but have not decided to take them as well. I did fill the prescriptions. Not all were taken together, but one antibiotic with one anti-fungal. Do you have any idea which of these helped the most, if you did notice anything? The Flagyl is often given for protozoan parasites and husband and I have had to do rounds of it several times for parasites.From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 11:28:24 AMSubject: Re: Re: Question Cecilia-I'm not sure if I responded to your question or not. I have taken Doxicycline, Bactrim, Ceftin, and Levaquin along with the antifungals- intraconazole and cholestiramineAandrayaOn Jul 21, 2011, at 5:42 AM, Cecilia Borg wrote: Glad to hear you got rid of them. What kind of antibiotics did you take?KRCeciliaFrom: Aandraya Da Silva <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Wed, July 20, 2011 6:40:38 PMSubject: Re: Re: Question I wanted to add, the insects finally went away after months on antibiotics. They were everywhere in my living environment, in my skin, etc.AandrayaOn Jul 20, 2011, at 11:34 AM, Aandraya Da Silva wrote: I am on Itraconazole for 2 months now, it has been very helpful, as has cholestiramine- binds to mold toxins and removes them via the gut.AandrayaOn Jul 20, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Benton wrote: Aggi, I have enjoyed your recipie and even used the combination on fish - yum! Still no movement on my head since the Doxy. I did that for about 3 weeks. I am not doing it now as I think they may be gone and I want to keep the anti-fungal oils in my hair. This will be the 3rd day on my anti-fungal meds. Hoping it works well as I hertzed about 60 plastic dumbell hyae (I think what you get when you cross a fungus with a virus) and they are falling out of my skin or sending more fungus out of them. Long bath fighting this new crop last night. What is your update? Love and light, From: Aggi <aggi_assmann@...>Subject: Re: Questionbird mites Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 1:41 PM Hello Krys, I hate saying this, because I highly recommended the MSM to you for your mother, but this really sounds like a severe allergic reactionto the sulfur. Just never heard of anyone getting in this state from the mites. I am so glad she's got a doctor now how is listening to her and does not treat her like a nutter !>> Hello,> My mother got badly bitten about a week ago after cleaning out all of the> tubes & hoses of the vacuum cleaner. Her eyes had been paricularly badly> btten & had swollen up, again she was having the horrid little things> crawling in her eyes, mouth, nose & other parts. As far as I can gather,> this had been subsiding. A couple of days ago she bought a few things,> including MSM capsules, which she had started taking. She phoned me up just> now telling me of her horrid experiences, though I'm not sure wheher she> meant today or yesterday (this can be confusing particularly due to time> differences). Seems her face ( & maybe body) went dark red, her eyelids,> mouth, (inside & out), half her tongue, her gums swelled up & a lump cam up> under her tongue came up. She went to the new doctor's & they were very> kind, telling her the mites were causing her an allergic reaction ( & they> don't think she's imagining it) & have put her onto steroids for 5 days & > say if her throat becomes any more swollen they will send her to hospital.> > Is it possible this is die off due to taking the MSM? She has not made any> such connection & I have not suggested it. Indeed, I told her to remember to> continue taking the MSM, hoping that perhaps this is die off & after a day> or two she might start feeling considerbly better. But is this right? Could> it be that the swelling is an allergic reaction to the MSM in which case> continuing taking it would make her worse? What should I do? Mostly should> she continue with the MSM? Is it likely that the MSM has nothing whatsoever> to do with the reaction?> > My mother thanks you all for your kind wishes.> > Thanks> Krys> > I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,> And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,> And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,> And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.> I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide> Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;> And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,> And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.> I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,> To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted knife;> And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,> And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over.> > *Sea Fever* - Masefield> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 LInda-For the crap coming out of my skin the Itraconazole 200mg once a day, I've been on it for 2 months now. Also the cholestiramine binds and removes fungal toxins, I take 3-4 packets a day. Both have been extremely helpful. I still have a greasy blue/grey sludge that comes out of my skin, but it is getting slowly better. For my bacterial infections I rotate Ceftin 500mg 2x a day and Bactrim 2 tablets 2x a day. I also take Levaquin 500mg once a day, the Levaquin is getting rid of the white spots, lines, mottled areas, nodules, lumpiness, puffiness under my skin. Because I'm doing such massive killing I have to do plenty of detox with epsom salt baths, chlorella, and the cholestiramine.This protocol is working for me, I am so much better compared to 2 yrs ago. I no longer have the insects or weird particles coming out of my skin. Only what I described above.AandrayaOn Jul 25, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: Hi AandrayaDo you have any remnants of symptoms left from all of this? I've been on Doxycycline, Bactrim, Cephlex, Flagyl, and for fungal Nystatin and Diflucan. I have several antibiotics in the wings, but have not decided to take them as well. I did fill the prescriptions. Not all were taken together, but one antibiotic with one anti-fungal. Do you have any idea which of these helped the most, if you did notice anything? The Flagyl is often given for protozoan parasites and husband and I have had to do rounds of it several times for parasites.From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 11:28:24 AMSubject: Re: Re: Question Cecilia-I'm not sure if I responded to your question or not. I have taken Doxicycline, Bactrim, Ceftin, and Levaquin along with the antifungals- intraconazole and cholestiramineAandrayaOn Jul 21, 2011, at 5:42 AM, Cecilia Borg wrote: Glad to hear you got rid of them. What kind of antibiotics did you take?KRCeciliaFrom: Aandraya Da Silva <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Wed, July 20, 2011 6:40:38 PMSubject: Re: Re: Question I wanted to add, the insects finally went away after months on antibiotics. They were everywhere in my living environment, in my skin, etc.AandrayaOn Jul 20, 2011, at 11:34 AM, Aandraya Da Silva wrote: I am on Itraconazole for 2 months now, it has been very helpful, as has cholestiramine- binds to mold toxins and removes them via the gut.AandrayaOn Jul 20, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Benton wrote: Aggi, I have enjoyed your recipie and even used the combination on fish - yum! Still no movement on my head since the Doxy. I did that for about 3 weeks. I am not doing it now as I think they may be gone and I want to keep the anti-fungal oils in my hair. This will be the 3rd day on my anti-fungal meds. Hoping it works well as I hertzed about 60 plastic dumbell hyae (I think what you get when you cross a fungus with a virus) and they are falling out of my skin or sending more fungus out of them. Long bath fighting this new crop last night. What is your update? Love and light, From: Aggi <aggi_assmann@...>Subject: Re: Questionbird mites Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 1:41 PM Hello Krys, I hate saying this, because I highly recommended the MSM to you for your mother, but this really sounds like a severe allergic reactionto the sulfur. Just never heard of anyone getting in this state from the mites. I am so glad she's got a doctor now how is listening to her and does not treat her like a nutter !>> Hello,> My mother got badly bitten about a week ago after cleaning out all of the> tubes & hoses of the vacuum cleaner. Her eyes had been paricularly badly> btten & had swollen up, again she was having the horrid little things> crawling in her eyes, mouth, nose & other parts. As far as I can gather,> this had been subsiding. A couple of days ago she bought a few things,> including MSM capsules, which she had started taking. She phoned me up just> now telling me of her horrid experiences, though I'm not sure wheher she> meant today or yesterday (this can be confusing particularly due to time> differences). Seems her face ( & maybe body) went dark red, her eyelids,> mouth, (inside & out), half her tongue, her gums swelled up & a lump cam up> under her tongue came up. She went to the new doctor's & they were very> kind, telling her the mites were causing her an allergic reaction ( & they> don't think she's imagining it) & have put her onto steroids for 5 days & > say if her throat becomes any more swollen they will send her to hospital.> > Is it possible this is die off due to taking the MSM? She has not made any> such connection & I have not suggested it. Indeed, I told her to remember to> continue taking the MSM, hoping that perhaps this is die off & after a day> or two she might start feeling considerbly better. But is this right? Could> it be that the swelling is an allergic reaction to the MSM in which case> continuing taking it would make her worse? What should I do? Mostly should> she continue with the MSM? Is it likely that the MSM has nothing whatsoever> to do with the reaction?> > My mother thanks you all for your kind wishes.> > Thanks> Krys> > I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,> And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,> And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,> And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.> I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide> Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;> And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,> And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.> I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,> To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted knife;> And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,> And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over.> > *Sea Fever* - Masefield> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 LInda-For the crap coming out of my skin the Itraconazole 200mg once a day, I've been on it for 2 months now. Also the cholestiramine binds and removes fungal toxins, I take 3-4 packets a day. Both have been extremely helpful. I still have a greasy blue/grey sludge that comes out of my skin, but it is getting slowly better. For my bacterial infections I rotate Ceftin 500mg 2x a day and Bactrim 2 tablets 2x a day. I also take Levaquin 500mg once a day, the Levaquin is getting rid of the white spots, lines, mottled areas, nodules, lumpiness, puffiness under my skin. Because I'm doing such massive killing I have to do plenty of detox with epsom salt baths, chlorella, and the cholestiramine.This protocol is working for me, I am so much better compared to 2 yrs ago. I no longer have the insects or weird particles coming out of my skin. Only what I described above.AandrayaOn Jul 25, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: Hi AandrayaDo you have any remnants of symptoms left from all of this? I've been on Doxycycline, Bactrim, Cephlex, Flagyl, and for fungal Nystatin and Diflucan. I have several antibiotics in the wings, but have not decided to take them as well. I did fill the prescriptions. Not all were taken together, but one antibiotic with one anti-fungal. Do you have any idea which of these helped the most, if you did notice anything? The Flagyl is often given for protozoan parasites and husband and I have had to do rounds of it several times for parasites.From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 11:28:24 AMSubject: Re: Re: Question Cecilia-I'm not sure if I responded to your question or not. I have taken Doxicycline, Bactrim, Ceftin, and Levaquin along with the antifungals- intraconazole and cholestiramineAandrayaOn Jul 21, 2011, at 5:42 AM, Cecilia Borg wrote: Glad to hear you got rid of them. What kind of antibiotics did you take?KRCeciliaFrom: Aandraya Da Silva <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Wed, July 20, 2011 6:40:38 PMSubject: Re: Re: Question I wanted to add, the insects finally went away after months on antibiotics. They were everywhere in my living environment, in my skin, etc.AandrayaOn Jul 20, 2011, at 11:34 AM, Aandraya Da Silva wrote: I am on Itraconazole for 2 months now, it has been very helpful, as has cholestiramine- binds to mold toxins and removes them via the gut.AandrayaOn Jul 20, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Benton wrote: Aggi, I have enjoyed your recipie and even used the combination on fish - yum! Still no movement on my head since the Doxy. I did that for about 3 weeks. I am not doing it now as I think they may be gone and I want to keep the anti-fungal oils in my hair. This will be the 3rd day on my anti-fungal meds. Hoping it works well as I hertzed about 60 plastic dumbell hyae (I think what you get when you cross a fungus with a virus) and they are falling out of my skin or sending more fungus out of them. Long bath fighting this new crop last night. What is your update? Love and light, From: Aggi <aggi_assmann@...>Subject: Re: Questionbird mites Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 1:41 PM Hello Krys, I hate saying this, because I highly recommended the MSM to you for your mother, but this really sounds like a severe allergic reactionto the sulfur. Just never heard of anyone getting in this state from the mites. I am so glad she's got a doctor now how is listening to her and does not treat her like a nutter !>> Hello,> My mother got badly bitten about a week ago after cleaning out all of the> tubes & hoses of the vacuum cleaner. Her eyes had been paricularly badly> btten & had swollen up, again she was having the horrid little things> crawling in her eyes, mouth, nose & other parts. As far as I can gather,> this had been subsiding. A couple of days ago she bought a few things,> including MSM capsules, which she had started taking. She phoned me up just> now telling me of her horrid experiences, though I'm not sure wheher she> meant today or yesterday (this can be confusing particularly due to time> differences). Seems her face ( & maybe body) went dark red, her eyelids,> mouth, (inside & out), half her tongue, her gums swelled up & a lump cam up> under her tongue came up. She went to the new doctor's & they were very> kind, telling her the mites were causing her an allergic reaction ( & they> don't think she's imagining it) & have put her onto steroids for 5 days & > say if her throat becomes any more swollen they will send her to hospital.> > Is it possible this is die off due to taking the MSM? She has not made any> such connection & I have not suggested it. Indeed, I told her to remember to> continue taking the MSM, hoping that perhaps this is die off & after a day> or two she might start feeling considerbly better. But is this right? Could> it be that the swelling is an allergic reaction to the MSM in which case> continuing taking it would make her worse? What should I do? Mostly should> she continue with the MSM? Is it likely that the MSM has nothing whatsoever> to do with the reaction?> > My mother thanks you all for your kind wishes.> > Thanks> Krys> > I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,> And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,> And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,> And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.> I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide> Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;> And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,> And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.> I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,> To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted knife;> And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,> And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over.> > *Sea Fever* - Masefield> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 Thanks so much for getting back to me and I realized you sent this or something similar before; so thanks again. From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 12:26:53 PMSubject: Re: Re: Question LInda-For the crap coming out of my skin the Itraconazole 200mg once a day, I've been on it for 2 months now. Also the cholestiramine binds and removes fungal toxins, I take 3-4 packets a day. Both have been extremely helpful. I still have a greasy blue/grey sludge that comes out of my skin, but it is getting slowly better. For my bacterial infections I rotate Ceftin 500mg 2x a day and Bactrim 2 tablets 2x a day. I also take Levaquin 500mg once a day, the Levaquin is getting rid of the white spots, lines, mottled areas, nodules, lumpiness, puffiness under my skin. Because I'm doing such massive killing I have to do plenty of detox with epsom salt baths, chlorella, and the cholestiramine.This protocol is working for me, I am so much better compared to 2 yrs ago. I no longer have the insects or weird particles coming out of my skin. Only what I described above.AandrayaOn Jul 25, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: Hi AandrayaDo you have any remnants of symptoms left from all of this? I've been on Doxycycline, Bactrim, Cephlex, Flagyl, and for fungal Nystatin and Diflucan. I have several antibiotics in the wings, but have not decided to take them as well. I did fill the prescriptions. Not all were taken together, but one antibiotic with one anti-fungal. Do you have any idea which of these helped the most, if you did notice anything? The Flagyl is often given for protozoan parasites and husband and I have had to do rounds of it several times for parasites.From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 11:28:24 AMSubject: Re: Re: Question Cecilia-I'm not sure if I responded to your question or not. I have taken Doxicycline, Bactrim, Ceftin, and Levaquin along with the antifungals- intraconazole and cholestiramineAandrayaOn Jul 21, 2011, at 5:42 AM, Cecilia Borg wrote: Glad to hear you got rid of them. What kind of antibiotics did you take?KRCeciliaFrom: Aandraya Da Silva <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Wed, July 20, 2011 6:40:38 PMSubject: Re: Re: Question I wanted to add, the insects finally went away after months on antibiotics. They were everywhere in my living environment, in my skin, etc.AandrayaOn Jul 20, 2011, at 11:34 AM, Aandraya Da Silva wrote: I am on Itraconazole for 2 months now, it has been very helpful, as has cholestiramine- binds to mold toxins and removes them via the gut.AandrayaOn Jul 20, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Benton wrote: Aggi, I have enjoyed your recipie and even used the combination on fish - yum! Still no movement on my head since the Doxy. I did that for about 3 weeks. I am not doing it now as I think they may be gone and I want to keep the anti-fungal oils in my hair. This will be the 3rd day on my anti-fungal meds. Hoping it works well as I hertzed about 60 plastic dumbell hyae (I think what you get when you cross a fungus with a virus) and they are falling out of my skin or sending more fungus out of them. Long bath fighting this new crop last night. What is your update? Love and light, From: Aggi <aggi_assmann@...>Subject: Re: Questionbird mites Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 1:41 PM Hello Krys, I hate saying this, because I highly recommended the MSM to you for your mother, but this really sounds like a severe allergic reactionto the sulfur. Just never heard of anyone getting in this state from the mites. I am so glad she's got a doctor now how is listening to her and does not treat her like a nutter !>> Hello,> My mother got badly bitten about a week ago after cleaning out all of the> tubes & hoses of the vacuum cleaner. Her eyes had been paricularly badly> btten & had swollen up, again she was having the horrid little things> crawling in her eyes, mouth, nose & other parts. As far as I can gather,> this had been subsiding. A couple of days ago she bought a few things,> including MSM capsules, which she had started taking. She phoned me up just> now telling me of her horrid experiences, though I'm not sure wheher she> meant today or yesterday (this can be confusing particularly due to time> differences). Seems her face ( & maybe body) went dark red, her eyelids,> mouth, (inside & out), half her tongue, her gums swelled up & a lump cam up> under her tongue came up. She went to the new doctor's & they were very> kind, telling her the mites were causing her an allergic reaction ( & they> don't think she's imagining it) & have put her onto steroids for 5 days & > say if her throat becomes any more swollen they will send her to hospital.> > Is it possible this is die off due to taking the MSM? She has not made any> such connection & I have not suggested it. Indeed, I told her to remember to> continue taking the MSM, hoping that perhaps this is die off & after a day> or two she might start feeling considerbly better. But is this right? Could> it be that the swelling is an allergic reaction to the MSM in which case> continuing taking it would make her worse? What should I do? Mostly should> she continue with the MSM? Is it likely that the MSM has nothing whatsoever> to do with the reaction?> > My mother thanks you all for your kind wishes.> > Thanks> Krys> > I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,> And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,> And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,> And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.> I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide> Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;> And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,> And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.> I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,> To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted knife;> And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,> And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over.> > *Sea Fever* - Masefield> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 Thanks so much for getting back to me and I realized you sent this or something similar before; so thanks again. From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 12:26:53 PMSubject: Re: Re: Question LInda-For the crap coming out of my skin the Itraconazole 200mg once a day, I've been on it for 2 months now. Also the cholestiramine binds and removes fungal toxins, I take 3-4 packets a day. Both have been extremely helpful. I still have a greasy blue/grey sludge that comes out of my skin, but it is getting slowly better. For my bacterial infections I rotate Ceftin 500mg 2x a day and Bactrim 2 tablets 2x a day. I also take Levaquin 500mg once a day, the Levaquin is getting rid of the white spots, lines, mottled areas, nodules, lumpiness, puffiness under my skin. Because I'm doing such massive killing I have to do plenty of detox with epsom salt baths, chlorella, and the cholestiramine.This protocol is working for me, I am so much better compared to 2 yrs ago. I no longer have the insects or weird particles coming out of my skin. Only what I described above.AandrayaOn Jul 25, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: Hi AandrayaDo you have any remnants of symptoms left from all of this? I've been on Doxycycline, Bactrim, Cephlex, Flagyl, and for fungal Nystatin and Diflucan. I have several antibiotics in the wings, but have not decided to take them as well. I did fill the prescriptions. Not all were taken together, but one antibiotic with one anti-fungal. Do you have any idea which of these helped the most, if you did notice anything? The Flagyl is often given for protozoan parasites and husband and I have had to do rounds of it several times for parasites.From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 11:28:24 AMSubject: Re: Re: Question Cecilia-I'm not sure if I responded to your question or not. I have taken Doxicycline, Bactrim, Ceftin, and Levaquin along with the antifungals- intraconazole and cholestiramineAandrayaOn Jul 21, 2011, at 5:42 AM, Cecilia Borg wrote: Glad to hear you got rid of them. What kind of antibiotics did you take?KRCeciliaFrom: Aandraya Da Silva <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Wed, July 20, 2011 6:40:38 PMSubject: Re: Re: Question I wanted to add, the insects finally went away after months on antibiotics. They were everywhere in my living environment, in my skin, etc.AandrayaOn Jul 20, 2011, at 11:34 AM, Aandraya Da Silva wrote: I am on Itraconazole for 2 months now, it has been very helpful, as has cholestiramine- binds to mold toxins and removes them via the gut.AandrayaOn Jul 20, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Benton wrote: Aggi, I have enjoyed your recipie and even used the combination on fish - yum! Still no movement on my head since the Doxy. I did that for about 3 weeks. I am not doing it now as I think they may be gone and I want to keep the anti-fungal oils in my hair. This will be the 3rd day on my anti-fungal meds. Hoping it works well as I hertzed about 60 plastic dumbell hyae (I think what you get when you cross a fungus with a virus) and they are falling out of my skin or sending more fungus out of them. Long bath fighting this new crop last night. What is your update? Love and light, From: Aggi <aggi_assmann@...>Subject: Re: Questionbird mites Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 1:41 PM Hello Krys, I hate saying this, because I highly recommended the MSM to you for your mother, but this really sounds like a severe allergic reactionto the sulfur. Just never heard of anyone getting in this state from the mites. I am so glad she's got a doctor now how is listening to her and does not treat her like a nutter !>> Hello,> My mother got badly bitten about a week ago after cleaning out all of the> tubes & hoses of the vacuum cleaner. Her eyes had been paricularly badly> btten & had swollen up, again she was having the horrid little things> crawling in her eyes, mouth, nose & other parts. As far as I can gather,> this had been subsiding. A couple of days ago she bought a few things,> including MSM capsules, which she had started taking. She phoned me up just> now telling me of her horrid experiences, though I'm not sure wheher she> meant today or yesterday (this can be confusing particularly due to time> differences). Seems her face ( & maybe body) went dark red, her eyelids,> mouth, (inside & out), half her tongue, her gums swelled up & a lump cam up> under her tongue came up. She went to the new doctor's & they were very> kind, telling her the mites were causing her an allergic reaction ( & they> don't think she's imagining it) & have put her onto steroids for 5 days & > say if her throat becomes any more swollen they will send her to hospital.> > Is it possible this is die off due to taking the MSM? She has not made any> such connection & I have not suggested it. Indeed, I told her to remember to> continue taking the MSM, hoping that perhaps this is die off & after a day> or two she might start feeling considerbly better. But is this right? Could> it be that the swelling is an allergic reaction to the MSM in which case> continuing taking it would make her worse? What should I do? Mostly should> she continue with the MSM? Is it likely that the MSM has nothing whatsoever> to do with the reaction?> > My mother thanks you all for your kind wishes.> > Thanks> Krys> > I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,> And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,> And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,> And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.> I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide> Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;> And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,> And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.> I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,> To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted knife;> And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,> And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over.> > *Sea Fever* - Masefield> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 Not a problem, it's taken me 22 months to get to this point, there is no quick fix. What has worked for you and what issues are you dealing with?AandrayaOn Jul 25, 2011, at 2:35 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: Thanks so much for getting back to me and I realized you sent this or something similar before; so thanks again. From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 12:26:53 PMSubject: Re: Re: Question LInda-For the crap coming out of my skin the Itraconazole 200mg once a day, I've been on it for 2 months now. Also the cholestiramine binds and removes fungal toxins, I take 3-4 packets a day. Both have been extremely helpful. I still have a greasy blue/grey sludge that comes out of my skin, but it is getting slowly better. For my bacterial infections I rotate Ceftin 500mg 2x a day and Bactrim 2 tablets 2x a day. I also take Levaquin 500mg once a day, the Levaquin is getting rid of the white spots, lines, mottled areas, nodules, lumpiness, puffiness under my skin. Because I'm doing such massive killing I have to do plenty of detox with epsom salt baths, chlorella, and the cholestiramine.This protocol is working for me, I am so much better compared to 2 yrs ago. I no longer have the insects or weird particles coming out of my skin. Only what I described above.AandrayaOn Jul 25, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: Hi AandrayaDo you have any remnants of symptoms left from all of this? I've been on Doxycycline, Bactrim, Cephlex, Flagyl, and for fungal Nystatin and Diflucan. I have several antibiotics in the wings, but have not decided to take them as well. I did fill the prescriptions. Not all were taken together, but one antibiotic with one anti-fungal. Do you have any idea which of these helped the most, if you did notice anything? The Flagyl is often given for protozoan parasites and husband and I have had to do rounds of it several times for parasites.From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 11:28:24 AMSubject: Re: Re: Question Cecilia-I'm not sure if I responded to your question or not. I have taken Doxicycline, Bactrim, Ceftin, and Levaquin along with the antifungals- intraconazole and cholestiramineAandrayaOn Jul 21, 2011, at 5:42 AM, Cecilia Borg wrote: Glad to hear you got rid of them. What kind of antibiotics did you take?KRCeciliaFrom: Aandraya Da Silva <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Wed, July 20, 2011 6:40:38 PMSubject: Re: Re: Question I wanted to add, the insects finally went away after months on antibiotics. They were everywhere in my living environment, in my skin, etc.AandrayaOn Jul 20, 2011, at 11:34 AM, Aandraya Da Silva wrote: I am on Itraconazole for 2 months now, it has been very helpful, as has cholestiramine- binds to mold toxins and removes them via the gut.AandrayaOn Jul 20, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Benton wrote: Aggi, I have enjoyed your recipie and even used the combination on fish - yum! Still no movement on my head since the Doxy. I did that for about 3 weeks. I am not doing it now as I think they may be gone and I want to keep the anti-fungal oils in my hair. This will be the 3rd day on my anti-fungal meds. Hoping it works well as I hertzed about 60 plastic dumbell hyae (I think what you get when you cross a fungus with a virus) and they are falling out of my skin or sending more fungus out of them. Long bath fighting this new crop last night. What is your update? Love and light, From: Aggi <aggi_assmann@...>Subject: Re: Questionbird mites Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 1:41 PM Hello Krys, I hate saying this, because I highly recommended the MSM to you for your mother, but this really sounds like a severe allergic reactionto the sulfur. Just never heard of anyone getting in this state from the mites. I am so glad she's got a doctor now how is listening to her and does not treat her like a nutter !>> Hello,> My mother got badly bitten about a week ago after cleaning out all of the> tubes & hoses of the vacuum cleaner. Her eyes had been paricularly badly> btten & had swollen up, again she was having the horrid little things> crawling in her eyes, mouth, nose & other parts. As far as I can gather,> this had been subsiding. A couple of days ago she bought a few things,> including MSM capsules, which she had started taking. She phoned me up just> now telling me of her horrid experiences, though I'm not sure wheher she> meant today or yesterday (this can be confusing particularly due to time> differences). Seems her face ( & maybe body) went dark red, her eyelids,> mouth, (inside & out), half her tongue, her gums swelled up & a lump cam up> under her tongue came up. She went to the new doctor's & they were very> kind, telling her the mites were causing her an allergic reaction ( & they> don't think she's imagining it) & have put her onto steroids for 5 days & > say if her throat becomes any more swollen they will send her to hospital.> > Is it possible this is die off due to taking the MSM? She has not made any> such connection & I have not suggested it. Indeed, I told her to remember to> continue taking the MSM, hoping that perhaps this is die off & after a day> or two she might start feeling considerbly better. But is this right? Could> it be that the swelling is an allergic reaction to the MSM in which case> continuing taking it would make her worse? What should I do? Mostly should> she continue with the MSM? Is it likely that the MSM has nothing whatsoever> to do with the reaction?> > My mother thanks you all for your kind wishes.> > Thanks> Krys> > I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,> And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,> And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,> And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.> I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide> Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;> And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,> And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.> I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,> To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted knife;> And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,> And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over.> > *Sea Fever* - Masefield> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 Not a problem, it's taken me 22 months to get to this point, there is no quick fix. What has worked for you and what issues are you dealing with?AandrayaOn Jul 25, 2011, at 2:35 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: Thanks so much for getting back to me and I realized you sent this or something similar before; so thanks again. From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 12:26:53 PMSubject: Re: Re: Question LInda-For the crap coming out of my skin the Itraconazole 200mg once a day, I've been on it for 2 months now. Also the cholestiramine binds and removes fungal toxins, I take 3-4 packets a day. Both have been extremely helpful. I still have a greasy blue/grey sludge that comes out of my skin, but it is getting slowly better. For my bacterial infections I rotate Ceftin 500mg 2x a day and Bactrim 2 tablets 2x a day. I also take Levaquin 500mg once a day, the Levaquin is getting rid of the white spots, lines, mottled areas, nodules, lumpiness, puffiness under my skin. Because I'm doing such massive killing I have to do plenty of detox with epsom salt baths, chlorella, and the cholestiramine.This protocol is working for me, I am so much better compared to 2 yrs ago. I no longer have the insects or weird particles coming out of my skin. Only what I described above.AandrayaOn Jul 25, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: Hi AandrayaDo you have any remnants of symptoms left from all of this? I've been on Doxycycline, Bactrim, Cephlex, Flagyl, and for fungal Nystatin and Diflucan. I have several antibiotics in the wings, but have not decided to take them as well. I did fill the prescriptions. Not all were taken together, but one antibiotic with one anti-fungal. Do you have any idea which of these helped the most, if you did notice anything? The Flagyl is often given for protozoan parasites and husband and I have had to do rounds of it several times for parasites.From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 11:28:24 AMSubject: Re: Re: Question Cecilia-I'm not sure if I responded to your question or not. I have taken Doxicycline, Bactrim, Ceftin, and Levaquin along with the antifungals- intraconazole and cholestiramineAandrayaOn Jul 21, 2011, at 5:42 AM, Cecilia Borg wrote: Glad to hear you got rid of them. What kind of antibiotics did you take?KRCeciliaFrom: Aandraya Da Silva <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Wed, July 20, 2011 6:40:38 PMSubject: Re: Re: Question I wanted to add, the insects finally went away after months on antibiotics. They were everywhere in my living environment, in my skin, etc.AandrayaOn Jul 20, 2011, at 11:34 AM, Aandraya Da Silva wrote: I am on Itraconazole for 2 months now, it has been very helpful, as has cholestiramine- binds to mold toxins and removes them via the gut.AandrayaOn Jul 20, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Benton wrote: Aggi, I have enjoyed your recipie and even used the combination on fish - yum! Still no movement on my head since the Doxy. I did that for about 3 weeks. I am not doing it now as I think they may be gone and I want to keep the anti-fungal oils in my hair. This will be the 3rd day on my anti-fungal meds. Hoping it works well as I hertzed about 60 plastic dumbell hyae (I think what you get when you cross a fungus with a virus) and they are falling out of my skin or sending more fungus out of them. Long bath fighting this new crop last night. What is your update? Love and light, From: Aggi <aggi_assmann@...>Subject: Re: Questionbird mites Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 1:41 PM Hello Krys, I hate saying this, because I highly recommended the MSM to you for your mother, but this really sounds like a severe allergic reactionto the sulfur. Just never heard of anyone getting in this state from the mites. I am so glad she's got a doctor now how is listening to her and does not treat her like a nutter !>> Hello,> My mother got badly bitten about a week ago after cleaning out all of the> tubes & hoses of the vacuum cleaner. Her eyes had been paricularly badly> btten & had swollen up, again she was having the horrid little things> crawling in her eyes, mouth, nose & other parts. As far as I can gather,> this had been subsiding. A couple of days ago she bought a few things,> including MSM capsules, which she had started taking. She phoned me up just> now telling me of her horrid experiences, though I'm not sure wheher she> meant today or yesterday (this can be confusing particularly due to time> differences). Seems her face ( & maybe body) went dark red, her eyelids,> mouth, (inside & out), half her tongue, her gums swelled up & a lump cam up> under her tongue came up. She went to the new doctor's & they were very> kind, telling her the mites were causing her an allergic reaction ( & they> don't think she's imagining it) & have put her onto steroids for 5 days & > say if her throat becomes any more swollen they will send her to hospital.> > Is it possible this is die off due to taking the MSM? She has not made any> such connection & I have not suggested it. Indeed, I told her to remember to> continue taking the MSM, hoping that perhaps this is die off & after a day> or two she might start feeling considerbly better. But is this right? Could> it be that the swelling is an allergic reaction to the MSM in which case> continuing taking it would make her worse? What should I do? Mostly should> she continue with the MSM? Is it likely that the MSM has nothing whatsoever> to do with the reaction?> > My mother thanks you all for your kind wishes.> > Thanks> Krys> > I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,> And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,> And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,> And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.> I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide> Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;> And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,> And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.> I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,> To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted knife;> And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,> And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over.> > *Sea Fever* - Masefield> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 I've got issues that may or may not be birdmite or Morgellons related. My biggest issue is Lyme disease at this point and co-infections which come and go with symptoms. I've also had bouts of eosinophillic pustular folliculitis too; this went away with Doxycycline, but now appears to be coming back and from what I've read it happens mostly in people with immune dysregulation. I am immunosuppressed as a result of CFS, Fibromyalgia most likely as a result of the Lyme. I took MMS for quite some time, but had to stop that because it was causing stomach irritations along with the Doxy. MMS didn't help with the folliculitis. I'm still having sensations on my skin, biting sensations of a mild nature, mostly on feet, 1-2x per day. It isn't too bad and sure nothing like when this all started back in 2008. So many things have improved, but I need to improve my diet, like NOW. I'm still active, but not healthy. I'm limping along... I need to start taking MSM once again. I think my kidneys are weakened, probably from all the medications I've taken too. From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 12:39:00 PMSubject: Re: Re: Question Not a problem, it's taken me 22 months to get to this point, there is no quick fix. What has worked for you and what issues are you dealing with?AandrayaOn Jul 25, 2011, at 2:35 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: Thanks so much for getting back to me and I realized you sent this or something similar before; so thanks again. From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 12:26:53 PMSubject: Re: Re: Question LInda-For the crap coming out of my skin the Itraconazole 200mg once a day, I've been on it for 2 months now. Also the cholestiramine binds and removes fungal toxins, I take 3-4 packets a day. Both have been extremely helpful. I still have a greasy blue/grey sludge that comes out of my skin, but it is getting slowly better. For my bacterial infections I rotate Ceftin 500mg 2x a day and Bactrim 2 tablets 2x a day. I also take Levaquin 500mg once a day, the Levaquin is getting rid of the white spots, lines, mottled areas, nodules, lumpiness, puffiness under my skin. Because I'm doing such massive killing I have to do plenty of detox with epsom salt baths, chlorella, and the cholestiramine.This protocol is working for me, I am so much better compared to 2 yrs ago. I no longer have the insects or weird particles coming out of my skin. Only what I described above.AandrayaOn Jul 25, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: Hi AandrayaDo you have any remnants of symptoms left from all of this? I've been on Doxycycline, Bactrim, Cephlex, Flagyl, and for fungal Nystatin and Diflucan. I have several antibiotics in the wings, but have not decided to take them as well. I did fill the prescriptions. Not all were taken together, but one antibiotic with one anti-fungal. Do you have any idea which of these helped the most, if you did notice anything? The Flagyl is often given for protozoan parasites and husband and I have had to do rounds of it several times for parasites.From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 11:28:24 AMSubject: Re: Re: Question Cecilia-I'm not sure if I responded to your question or not. I have taken Doxicycline, Bactrim, Ceftin, and Levaquin along with the antifungals- intraconazole and cholestiramineAandrayaOn Jul 21, 2011, at 5:42 AM, Cecilia Borg wrote: Glad to hear you got rid of them. What kind of antibiotics did you take?KRCeciliaFrom: Aandraya Da Silva <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Wed, July 20, 2011 6:40:38 PMSubject: Re: Re: Question I wanted to add, the insects finally went away after months on antibiotics. They were everywhere in my living environment, in my skin, etc.AandrayaOn Jul 20, 2011, at 11:34 AM, Aandraya Da Silva wrote: I am on Itraconazole for 2 months now, it has been very helpful, as has cholestiramine- binds to mold toxins and removes them via the gut.AandrayaOn Jul 20, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Benton wrote: Aggi, I have enjoyed your recipie and even used the combination on fish - yum! Still no movement on my head since the Doxy. I did that for about 3 weeks. I am not doing it now as I think they may be gone and I want to keep the anti-fungal oils in my hair. This will be the 3rd day on my anti-fungal meds. Hoping it works well as I hertzed about 60 plastic dumbell hyae (I think what you get when you cross a fungus with a virus) and they are falling out of my skin or sending more fungus out of them. Long bath fighting this new crop last night. What is your update? Love and light, From: Aggi <aggi_assmann@...>Subject: Re: Questionbird mites Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 1:41 PM Hello Krys, I hate saying this, because I highly recommended the MSM to you for your mother, but this really sounds like a severe allergic reactionto the sulfur. Just never heard of anyone getting in this state from the mites. I am so glad she's got a doctor now how is listening to her and does not treat her like a nutter !>> Hello,> My mother got badly bitten about a week ago after cleaning out all of the> tubes & hoses of the vacuum cleaner. Her eyes had been paricularly badly> btten & had swollen up, again she was having the horrid little things> crawling in her eyes, mouth, nose & other parts. As far as I can gather,> this had been subsiding. A couple of days ago she bought a few things,> including MSM capsules, which she had started taking. She phoned me up just> now telling me of her horrid experiences, though I'm not sure wheher she> meant today or yesterday (this can be confusing particularly due to time> differences). Seems her face ( & maybe body) went dark red, her eyelids,> mouth, (inside & out), half her tongue, her gums swelled up & a lump cam up> under her tongue came up. She went to the new doctor's & they were very> kind, telling her the mites were causing her an allergic reaction ( & they> don't think she's imagining it) & have put her onto steroids for 5 days & > say if her throat becomes any more swollen they will send her to hospital.> > Is it possible this is die off due to taking the MSM? She has not made any> such connection & I have not suggested it. Indeed, I told her to remember to> continue taking the MSM, hoping that perhaps this is die off & after a day> or two she might start feeling considerbly better. But is this right? Could> it be that the swelling is an allergic reaction to the MSM in which case> continuing taking it would make her worse? What should I do? Mostly should> she continue with the MSM? Is it likely that the MSM has nothing whatsoever> to do with the reaction?> > My mother thanks you all for your kind wishes.> > Thanks> Krys> > I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,> And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,> And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,> And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.> I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide> Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;> And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,> And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.> I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,> To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted knife;> And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,> And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over.> > *Sea Fever* - Masefield> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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