Nausea

[Guest guest]

Peppermint - tea especially, but if you havent got any substitute with peppermint lollies or anything with peppermint!!

Sipping on mineral or bubbly water like lemonade often helps too. Eating can help also.

Totally confused now

*HUGS*

Aisha.

nausea

Any quick cures for severe nausea???? UGHj.

[Guest guest]

Hi all -

I get this way alot; in fact, my doctor just did a

complete abdominal ultrasound (all was fine) and wants

to do an endoscopy to make sure my stomach is okay.

Sometimes I am too sick to eat. ALso, I have a

burning pain under my right rib cage - now they think

it is caused by fibromyalgia. Anybody else with this

type of experience?

Thanks - Jennie

> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 17:52:00 -0500

> From: Lynn <llact@...>

> Subject: Re: Dizzy or nauseated?

>

>

> Hi,

>

> Do a lot of you feel dizzy a lot or nauseated all

> the

> time?

> I have FMS and CFS, among other problems. I was

> just

> wondering if you have these symptoms as well.

> As you probably all can relate to, when you have

> several

> symptoms and several health concerns, it is

> difficult

> to distinguish which is attributed to FMS and which

> is attributed to some other problem.

>

> Lynn

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi Jennie,

I have a lot of pain in my right rib. It started

when I had gallbladder troubles. I always attributed

it the back brace that I often have to wear. I had the

GB out in 98 and still have the pain. I also had an abd

US that was fine and an endoscopy as well. However,

I went on to have a Hida Scan and it showed that my

gallbladder was non-functioning. I had it removed in 98 and still

have the pain all the time. I also had burning in my left side and my dr

and I thought I was going to have an ulcer.

Do you have any pains in your shoulder blade on your

right side? I also have acid reflux and hiatal hernia.

I was vomiting a lot during this time and couldn't even

keep down the water I had to drink for the US.

I was just given antivert today by the walk-in clinic

dr. I am dizzy and nauseated and have a bug. I just

looked it up and it seems to be bonine or marezine.

I always took Marezine for motion sickness. I get

nauseated online, taking a walk and doing exercises!

Anyone have experience with Antivert?

Good luck, Jennie. You can email me

offlist if you'd like.

Lynn

> Hi all -

> I get this way alot; in fact, my doctor just did a

> complete abdominal ultrasound (all was fine) and wants

> to do an endoscopy to make sure my stomach is okay.

> Sometimes I am too sick to eat. ALso, I have a

> burning pain under my right rib cage - now they think

> it is caused by fibromyalgia. Anybody else with this

> type of experience?

> Thanks - Jennie

[Guest guest]

I'll try one other idea out on you (besides the apple cider vinegar.) For a

couple years I was nauseated almost constantly. They put me on more and more

antacids, zantac, prilosec, I was popping tums, etc. Of course I know now that

is a bad idea because you need acid in your stomach or you get sick.

Anyway, I finally learned that it was really gas in my stomach. I took gas-x

which is simethicone and after one big burp the nausea would be gone. I can't

believe I went to two different gastroenterologists over 2 years and nobody ever

suggested it. I found out when I was really sick after a surgery and one of the

said " did you try simethicone " ? Duh, why didn't they say that 2 years

earlier??? Anyway, it is worth a try.

Doris

Re: Nausea

Hi all -

I get this way alot; in fact, my doctor just did a

complete abdominal ultrasound (all was fine) and wants

to do an endoscopy to make sure my stomach is okay.

Sometimes I am too sick to eat. ALso, I have a

burning pain under my right rib cage - now they think

it is caused by fibromyalgia. Anybody else with this

type of experience?

Thanks - Jennie

[Guest guest]

Jennie,

When I am in a flare (most predominated by flu-like aching, sore muscles,

and fatigue/lo stamina) I also have very bad pain in what feels like the

bones right at the bottom of my right rib cage. I would not, however,

characterize it as burning. If I push on it (touch it with slight

pressure) it is clearly sore. I always wonder what is sore and why. I

currently believe (on the basis of no sound info) that it's soft tissue

that's inflammed, and not the bone. I have had x-rays and nada shows.

If MRIs weren't unpleasant and I could get one done when the soreness is

there (which is virtually impossible since you have to schedule those

tests unless you have something medicine recognizes as an emergency or

are famous--I once was there and was " bumped " because a famous football

player with the Eagles (Phila) was hurt, poor baby, and he went before me

though he had the company of a nursemaid with a cell phone and a palm

pilot, and if it isn't obvious I was a tad annoyed and jealous.

Yes I get nauseated and wonder if I have stomach cancer (!) and make some

natural gingerale because I'm too worn out to deal with a gi doc. I'm

not saying don't have that test as it isn't a bad idea.

But between the meds we take and the fact that in this illness the gut is

a mess and whatever brain things control the gut and the way they're not

researching this disease in the US it's a wonder we're not nauseated all

the time.

Judith Wisdom

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 14:33:00 -0800 (PST) Jennie Floyd

<jfloyd123@...> writes:

Hi all -

I get this way alot; in fact, my doctor just did a

complete abdominal ultrasound (all was fine) and wants

to do an endoscopy to make sure my stomach is okay.

Sometimes I am too sick to eat. ALso, I have a

burning pain under my right rib cage - now they think

it is caused by fibromyalgia. Anybody else with this

type of experience?

Thanks - Jennie

> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 17:52:00 -0500

> From: Lynn <llact@...>

> Subject: Re: Dizzy or nauseated?

>

>

> Hi,

>

> Do a lot of you feel dizzy a lot or nauseated all

> the

> time?

> I have FMS and CFS, among other problems. I was

> just

> wondering if you have these symptoms as well.

> As you probably all can relate to, when you have

> several

> symptoms and several health concerns, it is

> difficult

> to distinguish which is attributed to FMS and which

> is attributed to some other problem.

>

> Lynn

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Simethicone is OTC and nobody makes any money off of it. The docs

don't get to keep doing tests to see if th rx drugs are affecting

your liver or whatever. Same thing with niacin and high cholesterol.

N is the first treatment of choice per the Merck Manual, but has

anyone ever been told by a doc to try that first?

Mike

> Anyway, I finally learned that it was really gas in my stomach. I

took gas-x which is simethicone and after one big burp the nausea

would be gone. I can't believe I went to two different

gastroenterologists over 2 years and nobody ever suggested it. I

found out when I was really sick after a surgery and one of the

said " did you try simethicone " ? Duh, why didn't they say that 2

years earlier??? Anyway, it is worth a try.

]

[Guest guest]

> Hi all -

> I get this way alot; in fact, my doctor just did a

> complete abdominal ultrasound (all was fine) and wants

> to do an endoscopy to make sure my stomach is okay.

> Sometimes I am too sick to eat. ALso, I have a

> burning pain under my right rib cage - now they think

> it is caused by fibromyalgia. Anybody else with this

> type of experience?

> Thanks - Jennie

>

Well, I just went through a similar experience. I started having

nausea, primarily in the morning. I just had an endoscopy, and my

stomach was ok. I was also having abdominal pain, so they just did an

abdominal and pelvic ultrasound. I'm waiting for results. In the

meantime, the nausea has almost entirely gone, and I have no more

abdominal pain. My take on this is that some symptoms come and go.

Also, if nausea is not caused by something in the stomach, it can also

be caused by something in the brain. In other words, the CFS is doing

a number on the brain that brings about the nausea. This is what I

understood from Dr. Cheney when I saw him a month ago. He didn't say

what to do for nausea (I didn't ask).

Have you tried some of Dr. Cheney's regime to protect the brain, like

Klonopin, or if that doesn't work, Ativan. Ativan helped me immensely.

Also, magnesium sulfate shots, and hydroxycobalamin shots.

Jackie

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I've always been a nauseated person. But it has gotten worse.

It seems to ebb and flow.

There was a period of time about 10 years ago when I was

going to a chiropractor for severe back problems. He told

me that I could be nauseated from the spinal fluid in my back.

I mention being nauseated quite a bit to various drs. and

no one seems to think much about it. When my acid

reflux is really bad, I am nauseated a lot. I take Prevacid

for that.

The thing that helps me the most, but not enough, is acidopholis.

I've been taking this for quite some time and it does help a lot.

I was also just give antivert because I've been extra dizzy

(bug) and am dizzy a lot, too. The dr. said I am probably

nauseated due to the dizziness. I took one last night and it

helped somewhat. However, I wasn't that bad to begin with.

It is the same thing as bonine OTC motion sickness pills.

I get easily nauseated by exercise, walking, and also using

the computer. I also sometimes get nauseated in my neighbor's

hot tub.

Lynn

[Guest guest]

Good point! That is another thing I learned with this illness. Some things

last a long time. But other things for me come and go like the wind. My

husband and I always laugh about the weird symptoms I will get, that will last a

couple days then disappear. Everything from numb arms, to blank spots in my

vision. Now I don't worry about anything until it lasts a month.

Doris

----- Original Message -----

From: jackienai2002

My take on this is that some symptoms come and go.

[Guest guest]

For me, nausea and loss of appetite (and consequent weight loss) were a

symptom orthostatic intolerance (get dizzy/faint when standing up and not

moving). The nausea went away as I learned to cope with the orthostatic

intolerance and the disease in general.

I also get burning in my rib cage when I don't sleep straight on my side but

allow my hips to fall forward. It has nothing to do with the CFIDS, for me.

Just a thought. Try straightening out and see if that helps--it can be quite

painful, probably some tendonitis there when it gets irritated enough.

Just some thoughts to ponder as you figure out this puzzle.

Good luck

> Re: Dizzy or nauseated?

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > Do a lot of you feel dizzy a lot or nauseated all

> > the

> > time?

> > I have FMS and CFS, among other problems. I was

> > just

> > wondering if you have these symptoms as well.

> > As you probably all can relate to, when you have

> > several

> > symptoms and several health concerns, it is

> > difficult

> > to distinguish which is attributed to FMS and which

> > is attributed to some other problem.

> >

> > Lynn

> >

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Vicki,

I can only share my own personal experience. Which was very little nausea

and very little discomfort with the NG tube or when it was pulled. I was

expecting ALL of the above but just didn't have to deal with it. I would

wish the same experience for everyone!

in Tacoma

In a message dated 7/25/2003 12:04:14 PM Pacific Standard Time,

plwboy2@... writes:

>

>

>

> >Hi again vicki

> >

> >FYI..I was nauseas in the hospital..very much so but I think it is

> fairly normal and is controlled as best as possible. My worst

> experience was about 1 hour after the nasal tube was removed..I

> vomited blood. Thought I was dying..but it was just a build up in

> my tummy that needed to come out. I felt better after it was out.

> >

> >It wont be fun...day 3 is the worst but it is worth it and you

> will be in the best possible hands.

> >I think it is important to know you may have regrets on day

> 3..mots people do..but it gets better!

> >

> >

> >Kristy

>

>

> kristy- thank you so much for the info. does everyone get nauseated

> whent the tube came out?? did anyone not have it? is it because it

> is stomach surgery or because of all of the acid in our tummies??

>

> vicki

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Hi again vicki

>

> FYI..I was nauseas in the hospital..very much so but I think it is

fairly normal and is controlled as best as possible. My worst

experience was about 1 hour after the nasal tube was removed..I

vomited blood. Thought I was dying..but it was just a build up in

my tummy that needed to come out. I felt better after it was out.

>

> It wont be fun...day 3 is the worst but it is worth it and you

will be in the best possible hands.

>

i hear alot of people feel regretful. i dont think i will feel that

way because i am psyching myself up for the nausea and pain. im glad

i know what to expect. i have to say vomiting blood is kind of scary-

my ulcer caused me to do that many times- yuk. nausea can be

controlled but i dont want to puke. i can handle pain but im a wimp

when it comes to nausea. i dont know why.

vicki

[Guest guest]

> Hi again vicki

>

> FYI..I was nauseas in the hospital..very much so but I think it is

fairly normal and is controlled as best as possible. My worst

experience was about 1 hour after the nasal tube was removed..I

vomited blood. Thought I was dying..but it was just a build up in

my tummy that needed to come out. I felt better after it was out.

>

> It wont be fun...day 3 is the worst but it is worth it and you

will be in the best possible hands.

> I think it is important to know you may have regrets on day

3..mots people do..but it gets better!

>

>

> Kristy

kristy- thank you so much for the info. does everyone get nauseated

whent the tube came out?? did anyone not have it? is it because it

is stomach surgery or because of all of the acid in our tummies??

vicki

[Guest guest]

Hi Vicki,

Another answer is better late than never, I hope. The nasogastric tube was

one of my major fears before the surgery (I easily feel like I am suffocating).

It was no problem at all -- I even threw up with it in place (yuckies....)!

They " adjusted " it by pulling on it and they pulled it up out of the stuff it

should have been suctioning, so I was a little uncomfortable for an hour or

two until they pulled it -- then -- instant relief and no more nausea!

The blood, etc., that it pulls up (including K-Y Jelly that they use to put

the measuring tube down into your stomach -- how's that for too much

information?) is caused by the surgery itself. It REALLY is a nonissue for most

people,

so don't distress yourself unduly about it, please.

I wish you all the best!

Hugs and blessings, Ann

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/26/2003 4:46:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

plwboy2@... writes:

> welcome back, anne

>

>

> vicki

Thanks, Vicki! I believe that claustrophobia (and fear of suffocation) are

what lead to my anxiety about the nasogastric tube, which also goes to show

that what we fear often is worse than the thing we fear! LOL The surgery is no

walk in the park, but it isn't (barring complications) a horrible scary thing,

either. I think being prepared emotionally and spiritually is a great way to

face fears and go with calmness. I don't know whether you have read any

meditation books, but there is one good one for surgical patients: ***Prepare

for

Surgery*** If you haven't read it, I highly recommend it! And remember

prayers are a very important spiritual step -- I felt so surrounded and lifted

by

all the prayers that were being said for me, the peace was so much more than I

expected.

Hugs and blessings, Ann

[Guest guest]

Vicki

> Vicki,

I had no nausea at all. I actually had a very uneventful and no real pain

in the hospital or after.

in Wisconsin

>

> kristy- thank you so much for the info. does everyone get nauseated

> whent the tube came out?? did anyone not have it? is it because it

> is stomach surgery or because of all of the acid in our tummies??

>

> vicki

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/26/2003 7:06:43 PM Central Daylight Time,

sonofmosiah@... writes:

>

> The nasogastric tube is nothing, really. You won't know when it goes in

> so no fear there. It's a bit uncomfortable but nothing horrible. Trust

> me on this one!

>

> Jim

>

>

The NG tube is much easier coming out than going in....As a nurse who has

placed dozens(Hundreds??) of tubes, be glad your out when it is placed...LOL.

Otherwise it's no sweat. Really yucky coming out, but not the worst thing I had

happen....Now the drain pulling....That was the horror story!!! (JK)

in Bama

http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html

Surgery- RNY to DS revision on12/6 -377.5

12/17 - 346.5 ( minus 31lbs)

02/12-330.0 (minus 47.5 lbs)

05/12- 304.8 (minus 72.7 lbs)-BMI now 48

06/22- 290.8 (minus 86.7)BMI 46.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/26/2003 5:11:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

plwboy2@... writes:

> i hope everyone out there

> will be praying for me too- and my husband(james), my son (garrett)

> and my dogs (jake and toby).

>

You know, Vicki, that we are quite a praying bunch, so we will surround you

and uplift you with our prayers, as we do all the preops, postops and people

who have been brought to our attention, plus their families and pets!

Hugs and blessings, Ann

[Guest guest]

> Hi Vicki,

>

> Another answer is better late than never, I hope. The nasogastric

tube was

> one of my major fears before the surgery (I easily feel like I am

suffocating).

> It was no problem at all -- I even threw up with it in place

(yuckies....)!

>

hi anne-

i was wondering where youve been- havent heard your sweet words in a

while. i love when you sign " hugs and blessings " on everything.

anyway- sounds like if it wasnt for the little twist of the tube,

you wouldnt have had nausea so thats good. im a total claustrophobic-

thats why i asked about the tube. nausea?? oh i hate it. pain- i

have a much bigger tolerance for that..........except for tummy aches

(like from flu bugs or diarreah). that makes me nauseated..lol. ok

im shuttin up now.

welcome back, anne

vicki

[Guest guest]

The nasogastric tube is nothing, really. You won't know when it goes in

so no fear there. It's a bit uncomfortable but nothing horrible. Trust

me on this one!

Jim

Re: Re: nausea

In a message dated 7/26/2003 4:46:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

plwboy2@... writes:

> welcome back, anne

>

>

> vicki

Thanks, Vicki! I believe that claustrophobia (and fear of suffocation)

are

what lead to my anxiety about the nasogastric tube, which also goes to

show

that what we fear often is worse than the thing we fear! LOL The

surgery is no

walk in the park, but it isn't (barring complications) a horrible scary

thing,

either. I think being prepared emotionally and spiritually is a great

way to

face fears and go with calmness. I don't know whether you have read any

meditation books, but there is one good one for surgical patients:

***Prepare for

Surgery*** If you haven't read it, I highly recommend it! And remember

prayers are a very important spiritual step -- I felt so surrounded and

lifted by

all the prayers that were being said for me, the peace was so much more

than I

expected.

Hugs and blessings, Ann

[Guest guest]

> The nasogastric tube is nothing, really. You won't know when it

goes in

> so no fear there. It's a bit uncomfortable but nothing horrible.

Trust

> me on this one!

>

> Jim

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: positivelyann@c... [mailto:positivelyann@c...]

> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 5:03 PM

>

it goes in during surgery right??

[Guest guest]

> In a message dated 7/26/2003 4:46:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> plwboy2@a... writes:

> > welcome back, anne

> >

> >

> > vicki

>

> Thanks, Vicki! I believe that claustrophobia (and fear of

suffocation) are

> what lead to my anxiety about the nasogastric tube, which also

goes to show

>

i agree with you. im one who always likes to be prepared for

anything- some people say im negative but thats ok. that way i have

no surprises.

my praying is my strength- i know that for sure. im also a writer

and i keep journals so that helps me to. its also neat to go back

and read things that i wrote a while back. i hope everyone out there

will be praying for me too- and my husband(james), my son (garrett)

and my dogs (jake and toby). and i will get that book- ive heard of

few of you guys mention that one

[Guest guest]

Yes; they put you out and you wake up with it in. Nothing to it. The

only unpleasant thing is when they take it out. It's not like liquid

chocolate! LOL But it's over in a about 2 seconds. You'll have NO

problem with it whatsoever.

Re: nausea

it goes in during surgery right??

[Guest guest]

> Yes; they put you out and you wake up with it in. Nothing to it.

The

> only unpleasant thing is when they take it out. It's not like

liquid

> chocolate! LOL But it's over in a about 2 seconds. You'll have NO

> problem with it whatsoever.

>

>

>

liquid chocolate?? should i ask???? ok-i'll bite!!!!!! what?????? im

glad they do it after. i would think it is kind of an annoying

feeling huh?? nothing up your nose feels good. i used to have those

long q tips up my nose for sinus cultures.yuk. i hated that feeling.

that hurts though- different thing.

vicki

[Guest guest]

LOL. Liquid Chocolate is the term I use for anything absolutely

WONDERFUL. " He sings like liquid chocolate, " " That sunset was just like

liquid chocolate. " That sort of thing.

I didn't have much problem with the tube partly because I was on the

morphine and so, more or less out to lunch while it was in. It was a

little uncomfortable because we can't drink water so it slightly chaffs

a bit. But really, it's not that bad at all. Well, more correctly, **I**

didn't find it that bad.

When it is removed, forgive the terminology, but it felt like a very

LONG ah, sting of mucus coming out. Like blowing your nose and this long

string needs to be pulled out. It was more weird or gross than hurtful.

I found the removal of the catheter more un-nerving! But then, I'm not

too used to women in latex gloves " mucking about " in that area. LOL

Jim

Who apologizes to Marta for the technical language used to describe the

removal process

Re: nausea

liquid chocolate?? should i ask???? ok-i'll bite!!!!!! what?????? im

glad they do it after. i would think it is kind of an annoying

feeling huh?? nothing up your nose feels good. i used to have those

long q tips up my nose for sinus cultures.yuk. i hated that feeling.

that hurts though- different thing.

vicki