Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 In a message dated 1/17/2008 12:30:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, vaccineinfo@... writes: you will realize that you don't have to live in fear as they have programmed you It is about selling a product - vaccines This really touched me!! You are so right about this. Thanks for all your info. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Hi both of you, #1 - vaccines do NOT give immunity at all..................so once you realize that you don't have to worry about taking the risk - they do not give immunity They use antibody counts to say that there is immunity after vaccines but antibodies do NOT mean immunity after a vaccine - only exposure. Nearly every disease vaccinated for is easily managed without outside help. The others are mostly BECAUSE of vaccines. #2 once you start to learn the reality of each disease - the true risk of even catching, the risk if you have it and alternative treatment for it - you will realize that you don't have to live in fear as they have programmed you It is about selling a product - vaccines #3 you are doing something incredible for the immune system by NOT vaccinating and by breastfeeding. I now know thousands of unvaccinated children - as patients, friends children and through these lists and teaching my classes - they are, in most cases, the healthiest children I have ever seen. Start with each disease and learn the truth (that's why I offer an affordable class on that) http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccineclass.htm so you will become comfortable. Vaccines inject illness into your child - your child is then chronically ill with that illness and all the toxins from the vaccines. They are too ill on a deep level to then get the disease vaccinated for and there is no outlet for that disturbance by the vaccine. Deaths had decline drastically BEFORE the vaccines came out - that is what is important. Not that the diseases declined, but that deaths declined. I'll send info on graphs and on antibodies. Hope that helps Sheri listowner > >Hi , I am just like you. Worried if my kids got vaccinated, worried >if they didn't. I probably can't relate to you about living overseas and not >being immunized. Although it's quite funny because my family has lived on a >military base in Japan when I was just a baby. Does that make you feel >better? hehe =)~ > >I have a 4 1/2 month old that is breastfed as well. Out of curiousity, what >kind of supplements are you giving your little one to boost the immune >system? Thanks > >I hope you enjoy being here! I have learned so much from the group already >and have only been here for a short amount of time. > >-Cat > >In a message dated 1/16/2008 7:36:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >meandlb@... writes: > > > > >Hi, >My name is and I just joined this group yesterday. I live on a >military base in Japan with my husband and my lovely 5 1/2 month old son. I joined >this group because I have been so conflicted about giving vaccines to my son. >I am probably like some of you who feel worried if you give it to your >children and worried if you don't. > >I am a breastfeeding mom and have been also giving supplements to my son to >boost his immune system. However, there is still a nagging feeling in the >back of my mind of " what if something happens if I don' t vaccinate him " . I >don't think I would feel this concerned if I lived in the US. However, living >overseas, especially in Japan, it is difficult for me to find a homeopathic >doctor or even easy access to supplements. > >I would definitely like to know if there is anyone out there in the same >situation as I am - specifically, living on a military base overseas (like >Japan). > >I am looking forward to sharing and learning with all of you. > > > > > > > > > > > > >**************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. >http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Hi Cat, Thanks for your post. I does make me feel a little better that you were here at one time. ha ha ) I have read that making sure that my child gets adequate vitamin a and c will help as well as probiotics. I am giving him a liquid multi vitamin and making sure that he is getting about 70 mg of vitamin c. I have also just ordered probiotics as well. I have read that probiotics will help with childhood illnesses such as rotovirus (which " they " say that every child will get at some time) as it helps limit the intense diarrhea effects that the virus can have. I am a big advocate of vitamin c so I know that it can't hurt. Plus, Jake will eliminate any that he doesn't need. I hope that this helps. Re: Hello Hi , I am just like you. Worried if my kids got vaccinated, worried if they didn't. I probably can't relate to you about living overseas and not being immunized. Although it's quite funny because my family has lived on a military base in Japan when I was just a baby. Does that make you feel better? hehe =)~ I have a 4 1/2 month old that is breastfed as well. Out of curiousity, what kind of supplements are you giving your little one to boost the immune system? Thanks I hope you enjoy being here! I have learned so much from the group already and have only been here for a short amount of time. -Cat In a message dated 1/16/2008 7:36:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, meandlb (DOT) com writes: Hi, My name is and I just joined this group yesterday. I live on a military base in Japan with my husband and my lovely 5 1/2 month old son. I joined this group because I have been so conflicted about giving vaccines to my son. I am probably like some of you who feel worried if you give it to your children and worried if you don't. I am a breastfeeding mom and have been also giving supplements to my son to boost his immune system. However, there is still a nagging feeling in the back of my mind of " what if something happens if I don' t vaccinate him " . I don't think I would feel this concerned if I lived in the US. However, living overseas, especially in Japan, it is difficult for me to find a homeopathic doctor or even easy access to supplements. I would definitely like to know if there is anyone out there in the same situation as I am - specifically, living on a military base overseas (like Japan). I am looking forward to sharing and learning with all of you. ************ **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body. aol.com/fitness/ winter-exercise? NCID=aolcmp00300 000002489 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 i would like to start giving my 11 mth old son a liquid vit, does anyone know of a good brand? what about a brand/site for probiotics and flaxseed oil? thanks! carrie Larry & <meandlb@...> wrote: Hi Cat, Thanks for your post. I does make me feel a little better that you were here at one time. ha ha ) I have read that making sure that my child gets adequate vitamin a and c will help as well as probiotics. I am giving him a liquid multi vitamin and making sure that he is getting about 70 mg of vitamin c. I have also just ordered probiotics as well. I have read that probiotics will help with childhood illnesses such as rotovirus (which " they " say that every child will get at some time) as it helps limit the intense diarrhea effects that the virus can have. I am a big advocate of vitamin c so I know that it can't hurt. Plus, Jake will eliminate any that he doesn't need. I hope that this helps. Re: Hello Hi , I am just like you. Worried if my kids got vaccinated, worried if they didn't. I probably can't relate to you about living overseas and not being immunized. Although it's quite funny because my family has lived on a military base in Japan when I was just a baby. Does that make you feel better? hehe =)~ I have a 4 1/2 month old that is breastfed as well. Out of curiousity, what kind of supplements are you giving your little one to boost the immune system? Thanks I hope you enjoy being here! I have learned so much from the group already and have only been here for a short amount of time. -Cat In a message dated 1/16/2008 7:36:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, meandlb (DOT) com writes: Hi, My name is and I just joined this group yesterday. I live on a military base in Japan with my husband and my lovely 5 1/2 month old son. I joined this group because I have been so conflicted about giving vaccines to my son. I am probably like some of you who feel worried if you give it to your children and worried if you don't. I am a breastfeeding mom and have been also giving supplements to my son to boost his immune system. However, there is still a nagging feeling in the back of my mind of " what if something happens if I don' t vaccinate him " . I don't think I would feel this concerned if I lived in the US. However, living overseas, especially in Japan, it is difficult for me to find a homeopathic doctor or even easy access to supplements. I would definitely like to know if there is anyone out there in the same situation as I am - specifically, living on a military base overseas (like Japan). I am looking forward to sharing and learning with all of you. ************ **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body. aol.com/fitness/ winter-exercise? NCID=aolcmp00300 000002489 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Liquid Life Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T Re: Hello i would like to start giving my 11 mth old son a liquid vit, does anyone know of a good brand? what about a brand/site for probiotics and flaxseed oil? thanks! carrie Larry & <meandlb (DOT) <mailto:meandlb%40> com> wrote: Hi Cat, Thanks for your post. I does make me feel a little better that you were here at one time. ha ha ) I have read that making sure that my child gets adequate vitamin a and c will help as well as probiotics. I am giving him a liquid multi vitamin and making sure that he is getting about 70 mg of vitamin c. I have also just ordered probiotics as well. I have read that probiotics will help with childhood illnesses such as rotovirus (which " they " say that every child will get at some time) as it helps limit the intense diarrhea effects that the virus can have. I am a big advocate of vitamin c so I know that it can't hurt. Plus, Jake will eliminate any that he doesn't need. I hope that this helps. Re: Hello Hi , I am just like you. Worried if my kids got vaccinated, worried if they didn't. I probably can't relate to you about living overseas and not being immunized. Although it's quite funny because my family has lived on a military base in Japan when I was just a baby. Does that make you feel better? hehe =)~ I have a 4 1/2 month old that is breastfed as well. Out of curiousity, what kind of supplements are you giving your little one to boost the immune system? Thanks I hope you enjoy being here! I have learned so much from the group already and have only been here for a short amount of time. -Cat In a message dated 1/16/2008 7:36:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, meandlb (DOT) com writes: Hi, My name is and I just joined this group yesterday. I live on a military base in Japan with my husband and my lovely 5 1/2 month old son. I joined this group because I have been so conflicted about giving vaccines to my son. I am probably like some of you who feel worried if you give it to your children and worried if you don't. I am a breastfeeding mom and have been also giving supplements to my son to boost his immune system. However, there is still a nagging feeling in the back of my mind of " what if something happens if I don' t vaccinate him " . I don't think I would feel this concerned if I lived in the US. However, living overseas, especially in Japan, it is difficult for me to find a homeopathic doctor or even easy access to supplements. I would definitely like to know if there is anyone out there in the same situation as I am - specifically, living on a military base overseas (like Japan). I am looking forward to sharing and learning with all of you. ************ **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body. <http://body.> aol.com/fitness/ winter-exercise? NCID=aolcmp00300 000002489 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Can anyone recommend a probiotic for an 18 month old? Thanks Marie Quisenberry leesamarie2828@... Re: Hello Hi , I am just like you. Worried if my kids got vaccinated, worried if they didn't. I probably can't relate to you about living overseas and not being immunized. Although it's quite funny because my family has lived on a military base in Japan when I was just a baby. Does that make you feel better? hehe =)~ I have a 4 1/2 month old that is breastfed as well. Out of curiousity, what kind of supplements are you giving your little one to boost the immune system? Thanks I hope you enjoy being here! I have learned so much from the group already and have only been here for a short amount of time. -Cat In a message dated 1/16/2008 7:36:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, meandlb (DOT) com writes: Hi, My name is and I just joined this group yesterday. I live on a military base in Japan with my husband and my lovely 5 1/2 month old son. I joined this group because I have been so conflicted about giving vaccines to my son. I am probably like some of you who feel worried if you give it to your children and worried if you don't. I am a breastfeeding mom and have been also giving supplements to my son to boost his immune system. However, there is still a nagging feeling in the back of my mind of " what if something happens if I don' t vaccinate him " . I don't think I would feel this concerned if I lived in the US. However, living overseas, especially in Japan, it is difficult for me to find a homeopathic doctor or even easy access to supplements. I would definitely like to know if there is anyone out there in the same situation as I am - specifically, living on a military base overseas (like Japan). I am looking forward to sharing and learning with all of you. ************ **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body. aol.com/fitness/ winter-exercise? NCID=aolcmp00300 000002489 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 I found a couple of sites that I thought had a good selection - herbalremedies.com and vitacost.com. Right now, I am using the country life brand but I will start using the ChildLife brand for liquid vitamins. It is formulated by a doctor of homeopathy. Re: Hello Hi , I am just like you. Worried if my kids got vaccinated, worried if they didn't. I probably can't relate to you about living overseas and not being immunized. Although it's quite funny because my family has lived on a military base in Japan when I was just a baby. Does that make you feel better? hehe =)~ I have a 4 1/2 month old that is breastfed as well. Out of curiousity, what kind of supplements are you giving your little one to boost the immune system? Thanks I hope you enjoy being here! I have learned so much from the group already and have only been here for a short amount of time. -Cat In a message dated 1/16/2008 7:36:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, meandlb (DOT) com writes: Hi, My name is and I just joined this group yesterday. I live on a military base in Japan with my husband and my lovely 5 1/2 month old son. I joined this group because I have been so conflicted about giving vaccines to my son. I am probably like some of you who feel worried if you give it to your children and worried if you don't. I am a breastfeeding mom and have been also giving supplements to my son to boost his immune system. However, there is still a nagging feeling in the back of my mind of " what if something happens if I don' t vaccinate him " . I don't think I would feel this concerned if I lived in the US. However, living overseas, especially in Japan, it is difficult for me to find a homeopathic doctor or even easy access to supplements. I would definitely like to know if there is anyone out there in the same situation as I am - specifically, living on a military base overseas (like Japan). I am looking forward to sharing and learning with all of you. ************ **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body. aol.com/fitness/ winter-exercise? NCID=aolcmp00300 000002489 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 My sister recommended Jarrow Formula's baby jarrow-dophilus. This is the one I just ordered. Re: Hello Hi , I am just like you. Worried if my kids got vaccinated, worried if they didn't. I probably can't relate to you about living overseas and not being immunized. Although it's quite funny because my family has lived on a military base in Japan when I was just a baby. Does that make you feel better? hehe =)~ I have a 4 1/2 month old that is breastfed as well. Out of curiousity, what kind of supplements are you giving your little one to boost the immune system? Thanks I hope you enjoy being here! I have learned so much from the group already and have only been here for a short amount of time. -Cat In a message dated 1/16/2008 7:36:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, meandlb (DOT) com writes: Hi, My name is and I just joined this group yesterday. I live on a military base in Japan with my husband and my lovely 5 1/2 month old son. I joined this group because I have been so conflicted about giving vaccines to my son. I am probably like some of you who feel worried if you give it to your children and worried if you don't. I am a breastfeeding mom and have been also giving supplements to my son to boost his immune system. However, there is still a nagging feeling in the back of my mind of " what if something happens if I don' t vaccinate him " . I don't think I would feel this concerned if I lived in the US. However, living overseas, especially in Japan, it is difficult for me to find a homeopathic doctor or even easy access to supplements. I would definitely like to know if there is anyone out there in the same situation as I am - specifically, living on a military base overseas (like Japan). I am looking forward to sharing and learning with all of you. ************ **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body. aol.com/fitness/ winter-exercise? NCID=aolcmp00300 000002489 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Hello. I'm hear and I have been wondering where everyone is also...but I'm taking the silence as a good thing. Maybe everyone is doing so much better and they are moving on with their lives........I sure hope so. Rita Group is Quiet ? ! I am wondering why no one is posting? Or have I been bumped off this group or something? What's going on? How is everyone? Rita? Gulfingnut? Lucy Lu? LadyDee? Mel Tamara <knit4totsmsn> wrote: Hello all,I have been reading your posts for several months and finally i am ready to introduce myself. I am tammy and we live in mass. my mom came down with these mites in aug/sept of 2007. She has had several pest companies come to spray, has washed all her clothes. She seems to be losing this battle. She is retired and single and has had enough of this. She wants to just walk away from her apartment with nothing and have the landlords throw everything away, this is effecting her health. She has the crawley feeling especially at her computer. She has seen an occasional mouse(she lives in a very nice but old house) and she has had birds nesting outside her window. She has also loved plants and has had to get rid of all her house plants.She had the mites(too small to see) analyzed and they came up with"thrips" has anyone heard of these. I went online and there are two kinds that do bite humans. Her bites are small pin pricks that leave a slightly raised blood spot. It never looks like a moskito because the spot does not bleed.Really strange. We do see black pepper spects on some surfaces like the stove and counters and white spects that seem to hop lazely back to the cloth that they were pulled off of almost always a dark item. We did the bowl of water with a night light and have only caught the whit spects in the water. I am sorry this is so long but i have tried to help her end this nightmare. I told her to spray windex and she said that she thinks it helped. I will tell her about the salting also. I was actually thinking that maybe early on that they were bedbugs for she travels alot to other countries several times a year and because of all the activity when she laid down in bed but we and the pest people have ruled that out. We have tried to see them with magnifing glass and can not see anything that moved except for the white spects. Rita and frito thankyou so much for all your comments and to everybody else that has been posting. My ???is has anyone heard of thrips? Thankyou tammy Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1308 - Release Date: 3/3/2008 10:01 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Hi I think i over dosed on ozone from my ozone gen. I am pretty sick---but something really is going around here in San Diego. But i do think the ozone gen helps to kill the bastards!!!! I would really like to hear what everyone thinks about the fact that i get lots and lots of stuff on the lint roller after i apply cs/lotion. i need a microscope--i cant tell what they are withe naked eye. Also--i think the iver helps alot...but now that i am sick i think i should not take it until i am better...what do you think? love LL --- Rita and Mike Carlson <rcarlson30@...> wrote: > Hello. I'm hear and I have been wondering where > everyone is also...but I'm taking the silence as a > good thing. Maybe everyone is doing so much better > and they are moving on with their lives........I > sure hope so. Rita > > Group is Quiet ? ! > > > > I am wondering why no one is posting? Or have I > been bumped off this group or something? What's > going on? How is everyone? Rita? Gulfingnut? Lucy > Lu? LadyDee? > Mel > > > Tamara <knit4tots@...> wrote: > Hello all, > I have been reading your posts for several > months and finally i am > ready to introduce myself. I am tammy and we > live in mass. my mom came > down with these mites in aug/sept of 2007. She > has had several pest > companies come to spray, has washed all her > clothes. She seems to be > losing this battle. She is retired and single > and has had enough of > this. She wants to just walk away from her > apartment with nothing and > have the landlords throw everything away, this > is effecting her health. > She has the crawley feeling especially at her > computer. She has seen > an occasional mouse(she lives in a very nice but > old house) and she has > had birds nesting outside her window. She has > also loved plants and has > had to get rid of all her house plants. > She had the mites(too small to see) analyzed and > they came up with > " thrips " has anyone heard of these. I went > online and there are two > kinds that do bite humans. Her bites are small > pin pricks that leave a > slightly raised blood spot. It never looks like > a moskito because the > spot does not bleed.Really strange. We do see > black pepper spects on > some surfaces like the stove and counters and > white spects that seem to > hop lazely back to the cloth that they were > pulled off of almost always > a dark item. We did the bowl of water with a > night light and have only > caught the whit spects in the water. I am sorry > this is so long but i > have tried to help her end this nightmare. I > told her to spray windex > and she said that she thinks it helped. I will > tell her about the > salting also. I was actually thinking that maybe > early on that they > were bedbugs for she travels alot to other > countries several times a > year and because of all the activity when she > laid down in bed but we > and the pest people have ruled that out. We have > tried to see them with > magnifing glass and can not see anything that > moved except for the > white spects. Rita and frito thankyou so much > for all your comments and > to everybody else that has been posting. My > ???is has anyone heard of > thrips? Thankyou tammy > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1308 - > Release Date: 3/3/2008 10:01 AM > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Lucy Lu: I heard from another poster that says the collodial silver is working for them. it is making the mites come out of their skin; which is really a good thing. You can order a pocketscope from ebay or from radio shack online, I have a 60x scope from ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/60X-ZOOM-POCKET-MICROSCOPE-LOUPE-MAGNIFIER-SCOPE-LIGHT_W0QQitemZ300203531532QQihZ020QQcategoryZ34084QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem just take the bottom part of it off and use it on your skin or put hydrogen peroxide on a tissue and wipe the tissue on your skin and scope the tissue. Also, there are alot of people on the topix scabies forum that are from san diego and from all around california, who have mites. mel Lucy Lu <lucylu62@...> wrote: HiI think i over dosed on ozone from my ozone gen. I ampretty sick---but something really is going aroundhere in San Diego.But i do think the ozone gen helps to kill thebastards!!!!I would really like to hear what everyone thinks aboutthe fact that i get lots and lots of stuff on the lintroller after i apply cs/lotion. i need amicroscope--i cant tell what they are withe naked eye.Also--i think the iver helps alot...but now that i amsick i think i should not take it until i ambetter...what do you think?love LL--- Rita and Mike Carlson <rcarlson30InsightBB>wrote:> Hello. I'm hear and I have been wondering where> everyone is also...but I'm taking the silence as a > good thing. Maybe everyone is doing so much better> and they are moving on with their lives........I> sure hope so. Rita> > Group is Quiet ? !> > > > I am wondering why no one is posting? Or have I> been bumped off this group or something? What's> going on? How is everyone? Rita? Gulfingnut? Lucy> Lu? LadyDee?> Mel> > > Tamara <knit4totsmsn> wrote:> Hello all,> I have been reading your posts for several> months and finally i am > ready to introduce myself. I am tammy and we> live in mass. my mom came > down with these mites in aug/sept of 2007. She> has had several pest > companies come to spray, has washed all her> clothes. She seems to be > losing this battle. She is retired and single> and has had enough of > this. She wants to just walk away from her> apartment with nothing and > have the landlords throw everything away, this> is effecting her health. > She has the crawley feeling especially at her> computer. She has seen > an occasional mouse(she lives in a very nice but> old house) and she has > had birds nesting outside her window. She has> also loved plants and has > had to get rid of all her house plants.> She had the mites(too small to see) analyzed and> they came up with> "thrips" has anyone heard of these. I went> online and there are two > kinds that do bite humans. Her bites are small> pin pricks that leave a > slightly raised blood spot. It never looks like> a moskito because the > spot does not bleed.Really strange. We do see> black pepper spects on > some surfaces like the stove and counters and> white spects that seem to > hop lazely back to the cloth that they were> pulled off of almost always > a dark item. We did the bowl of water with a> night light and have only > caught the whit spects in the water. I am sorry> this is so long but i > have tried to help her end this nightmare. I> told her to spray windex > and she said that she thinks it helped. I will> tell her about the > salting also. I was actually thinking that maybe> early on that they > were bedbugs for she travels alot to other> countries several times a > year and because of all the activity when she> laid down in bed but we > and the pest people have ruled that out. We have> tried to see them with > magnifing glass and can not see anything that> moved except for the > white spects. Rita and frito thankyou so much> for all your comments and > to everybody else that has been posting. My> ???is has anyone heard of > thrips? Thankyou tammy> > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------> > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1308 -> Release Date: 3/3/2008 10:01 AM> __________________________________________________________Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Thank you Mel !!! I am just hoping that the salt will help others and we can rid the world of this nightmare that we are all caught up in. We just have to over come this thing. Rita Hello to All Thanks for all the advise!I am still in a state of shock with this current Diagnosis :-), I was still hoping I was dealing with a bad case of fleas, scabies, filth flies whathavu.....I am convinced it is BM, based on reading two days worth of posts at the forums and now I must join your group or I go insane...., for the asking I will share with you of how I think I got the infestation, but for now, someone please tell me what to do, I have a chance to move to a new apartment ( hope it has no hidden infestation there), I am willing to throw everything if I have to , very hard to do since I finally got some decent furniture before I moved into this hellhole, then I need to be de-contaminated, I feel like many of you, it is IN ME, not only epidermis, the respiratory, GI Genitourinary tract as well.....I wish I had an autoclave, to sterilize myself and everything...good grief as I am writing this I get overwhelmed with coming to grip with this nasty existence one has to call this living...please help No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1331 - Release Date: 3/16/2008 10:34 AM Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1331 - Release Date: 3/16/2008 10:34 AM Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1331 - Release Date: 3/16/2008 10:34 AM Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1331 - Release Date: 3/16/2008 10:34 AM Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1332 - Release Date: 3/17/2008 10:48 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Rita I followed your advice with my shower routine this morning, overcoming still some mental barrier about all of this new life. I believe it works sofar, it is making one physiologically and biologically less of an attractive host thos those blood suckers. After my clean sense I went to my car and there they were....all over the place and back on me.....that Boric Acid that I sprinkled on Saturday alll over the carpet did nothing but gets airborne into my resp tract... how does one get Co2, why the computer too, will and must treat my car, it is a new one, I could cry. There is such a heavy emphazis on cross contamination, why is then that we do not infect/infest other human by contact? Or do we? Thanks for all your wonderful support and putting up with my questions and laments... M Thank you Mel !!! I am just hoping that the salt will help others and we can rid the world of this nightmare that we are all caught up in. We just have to over come this thing. Rita Hello to All Thanks for all the advise!I am still in a state of shock with this current Diagnosis :-), I was still hoping I was dealing with a bad case of fleas, scabies, filth flies whathavu.....I am convinced it is BM, based on reading two days worth of posts at the forums and now I must join your group or I go insane...., for the asking I will share with you of how I think I got the infestation, but for now, someone please tell me what to do, I have a chance to move to a new apartment ( hope it has no hidden infestation there), I am willing to throw everything if I have to , very hard to do since I finally got some decent furniture before I moved into this hellhole, then I need to be de-contaminated, I feel like many of you, it is IN ME, not only epidermis, the respiratory, GI Genitourinary tract as well.....I wish I had an autoclave, to sterilize myself and everything...good grief as I am writing this I get overwhelmed with coming to grip with this nasty existence one has to call this living...please help No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1331 - Release Date: 3/16/2008 10:34 AM Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1331 - Release Date: 3/16/2008 10:34 AM Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1331 - Release Date: 3/16/2008 10:34 AM Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1331 - Release Date: 3/16/2008 10:34 AM Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1332 - Release Date: 3/17/2008 10:48 AM Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 You have to got to a welding supply to get the CO2. Seems that the salt has worked better than any type of power for us. It's all trial and error. Keep trying !!! Rita Hello to All Thanks for all the advise!I am still in a state of shock with this current Diagnosis :-), I was still hoping I was dealing with a bad case of fleas, scabies, filth flies whathavu.....I am convinced it is BM, based on reading two days worth of posts at the forums and now I must join your group or I go insane...., for the asking I will share with you of how I think I got the infestation, but for now, someone please tell me what to do, I have a chance to move to a new apartment ( hope it has no hidden infestation there), I am willing to throw everything if I have to , very hard to do since I finally got some decent furniture before I moved into this hellhole, then I need to be de-contaminated, I feel like many of you, it is IN ME, not only epidermis, the respiratory, GI Genitourinary tract as well.....I wish I had an autoclave, to sterilize myself and everything...good grief as I am writing this I get overwhelmed with coming to grip with this nasty existence one has to call this living...please help No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1331 - Release Date: 3/16/2008 10:34 AM Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1331 - Release Date: 3/16/2008 10:34 AM Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1331 - Release Date: 3/16/2008 10:34 AM Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1331 - Release Date: 3/16/2008 10:34 AM Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1332 - Release Date: 3/17/2008 10:48 AM Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1332 - Release Date: 3/17/2008 10:48 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Hi Marguerite, Welcome to the group. You will find many helpful souls here who are going through or have gone through the same shock and dismay after being attacked by the invisible demons from hell. We totally sympathize and are sharing all the ideas we can muster to help one another in this horrendous battle. It will get easier once you get these things under control. Hopefully, you will be able to get rid of yours much faster than many of us. Best of luck and you will find so many of the posts here provide great information. For me, the Epsom salts and Arrid Extra Dry have helped greatly. I am also trying the Vitamin C and regular salt protocol as well. I am seeing improvement but hoping for the day when these things are completely gone. Meanwhile, I am praying for us all! Take good care. Lady Dee > Please go to the store and get several bags of Epsom salt and make up at a salt solution of 2 cups to one pint of water. Shower and use dawn dishwashing liquid as your soap and shampoo. Then slowly pour the salt solution over your skin working it in well where you have hair. Eye brows and eye lashes also. If you have some real bad itchy spots touch those spots with straight Clorox, only leave this on for about 10 to 15 seconds and then wash off and then apply the salt water solution. Now step out of the shower and don't use towel, the towel will rub the salt off the skin. The faster you get the salt blow dried onto the skin with a blow direr the better the salt works. It takes about 4 weeks of this to get to the point that you don't feel them any more. Spray everything down with the salt water. Soak all bedding and clothing over night completely submerged. It can be in plain water just make sure it is totally under the water for at least over night. Soak shoes also. > You can take 1/2 teaspoon of plain table salt by mouth 4 times a day. This gets a total of 1 tablespoon in you per day. I have fought this nightmare for 2 years and the salt is the only thing that has worked. I am free of the damn things right now and I pray I stay that way. If you have any questions please let me know. Everyone on this site is very helpful. God bless and Good luck to you. Rita > > > Hello to All > > > Thanks for all the advise! > I am still in a state of shock with this current Diagnosis :-), I was > still hoping I was dealing with a bad case of fleas, scabies, filth > flies whathavu.....I am convinced it is BM, based on reading two days > worth of posts at the forums and now I must join your group or I go > insane...., > for the asking I will share with you of how I think I got the > infestation, but for now, someone please tell me what to do, I have a > chance to move to a new apartment ( hope it has no hidden infestation > there), I am willing to throw everything if I have to , very hard to do > since I finally got some decent furniture before I moved into this > hellhole, then I need to be de-contaminated, I feel like many of you, > it is IN ME, not only epidermis, the respiratory, GI Genitourinary > tract as well.....I wish I had an autoclave, to sterilize myself and > everything... > good grief as I am writing this I get overwhelmed with coming to grip > with this nasty existence one has to call this living... > please help > > > > > --------------------------------- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1331 - Release Date: 3/16/2008 10:34 AM > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. > > > --------------------------------- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1331 - Release Date: 3/16/2008 10:34 AM > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > > > --------------------------------- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1331 - Release Date: 3/16/2008 10:34 AM > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. > > > --------------------------------- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1331 - Release Date: 3/16/2008 10:34 AM > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. > > > --------------------------------- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1332 - Release Date: 3/17/2008 10:48 AM > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 It's weird, some people get infested from me and others don't. It seems they just don't like everyone. For other people, maybe with a different species of mites, they don't infest anyone else, maybe even just one person in a household. > Please go to the store and get several bags of Epsom salt and make up at a salt solution of 2 cups to one pint of water. Shower and use dawn dishwashing liquid as your soap and shampoo. Then slowly pour the salt solution over your skin working it in well where you have hair. Eye brows and eye lashes also. If you have some real bad itchy spots touch those spots with straight Clorox, only leave this on for about 10 to 15 seconds and then wash off and then apply the salt water solution. Now step out of the shower and don't use towel, the towel will rub the salt off the skin. The faster you get the salt blow dried onto the skin with a blow direr the better the salt works. It takes about 4 weeks of this to get to the point that you don't feel them any more. Spray everything down with the salt water. Soak all bedding and clothing over night completely submerged. It can be in plain water just make sure it is totally under the water for at least over night. Soak shoes also. > You can take 1/2 teaspoon of plain table salt by mouth 4 times a day. This gets a total of 1 tablespoon in you per day. I have fought this nightmare for 2 years and the salt is the only thing that has worked. I am free of the damn things right now and I pray I stay that way. If you have any questions please let me know. Everyone on this site is very helpful. God bless and Good luck to you. Rita > > > Hello to All > > > Thanks for all the advise! > I am still in a state of shock with this current Diagnosis :-), I was > still hoping I was dealing with a bad case of fleas, scabies, filth > flies whathavu.....I am convinced it is BM, based on reading two days > worth of posts at the forums and now I must join your group or I go > insane...., > for the asking I will share with you of how I think I got the > infestation, but for now, someone please tell me what to do, I have a > chance to move to a new apartment ( hope it has no hidden infestation > there), I am willing to throw everything if I have to , very hard to do > since I finally got some decent furniture before I moved into this > hellhole, then I need to be de-contaminated, I feel like many of you, > it is IN ME, not only epidermis, the respiratory, GI Genitourinary > tract as well.....I wish I had an autoclave, to sterilize myself and > everything... > good grief as I am writing this I get overwhelmed with coming to grip > with this nasty existence one has to call this living... > please help > > > > > --------------------------------- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1331 - Release Date: 3/16/2008 10:34 AM > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. > > > --------------------------------- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1331 - Release Date: 3/16/2008 10:34 AM > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > > > --------------------------------- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1331 - Release Date: 3/16/2008 10:34 AM > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. > > > --------------------------------- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1331 - Release Date: 3/16/2008 10:34 AM > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. > > > --------------------------------- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1332 - Release Date: 3/17/2008 10:48 AM > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 also, i had to buy a black tubing for the tank and a regulator, which was about $80. that doesn't include the price for the tank. but, if you are going to let it off in the car, i guess you don't need the black tube. i use that for big bags of shoes and bags of stuff , like electronics, phones, that you fill up the bag and zip it up. one tank lasts forever if you use it this way. dangerous, though. no breathing. do this outside the home, not inside. melRita and Mike Carlson <rcarlson30@...> wrote: You have to got to a welding supply to get the CO2. Seems that the salt has worked better than any type of power for us. It's all trial and error. Keep trying !!! Rita Hello to All Thanks for all the advise!I am still in a state of shock with this current Diagnosis :-), I was still hoping I was dealing with a bad case of fleas, scabies, filth flies whathavu.....I am convinced it is BM, based on reading two days worth of posts at the forums and now I must join your group or I go insane...., for the asking I will share with you of how I think I got the infestation, but for now, someone please tell me what to do, I have a chance to move to a new apartment ( hope it has no hidden infestation there), I am willing to throw everything if I have to , very hard to do since I finally got some decent furniture before I moved into this hellhole, then I need to be de-contaminated, I feel like many of you, it is IN ME, not only epidermis, the respiratory, GI Genitourinary tract as well.....I wish I had an autoclave, to sterilize myself and everything...good grief as I am writing this I get overwhelmed with coming to grip with this nasty existence one has to call this living...please help No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1331 - Release Date: 3/16/2008 10:34 AM Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1331 - Release Date: 3/16/2008 10:34 AM Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1331 - Release Date: 3/16/2008 10:34 AM Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1331 - Release Date: 3/16/2008 10:34 AM Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1332 - Release Date: 3/17/2008 10:48 AM Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1332 - Release Date: 3/17/2008 10:48 AM Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 Welcome to the group toni. I am just curious... based on your own statement, what in the vaccines will be any less harmful if you were to move to Mexico? Arianna Mojica - (UCC 1-207/1-103) ~~~"All rights not demanded are presumed waived". ~ Thurston ~~~~ "A foolish faith in authority is the worst enemy of truth." - Albert Einstein, 1901 ~~~~"When we give government the power to make medical decisions for us, we, in essence, accept that the state owns our bodies" ~U.S. Representative Ron , MD. ~~~~" "The only safe vaccine is a vaccine that is never used" -- Dr. A. , National Institutes of Health www.vaclib.org www.909shot.com http://www.vacinfo.org/ http://www.vran.org/ http://www.momtoanangel.net/ingred.htm http://forcedanarchy.blogspot.com/ ----- Original Message ----From: Toni Vigil-McKim tlavigil@... My core view is that I would never knowingly expose my children to something that could harm them. However, it looks like my family will be moving to Chiapas, Mexico for three years, and I now find myself revisiting the idea of giving my children vaccines in order to protect them from any harmful diseases which are more prevalent in poor tropical countries. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 Hi, Toni. The diseases we have vaccines for in the U.S. are all supposedly deadly, too. So think about why you're not vaccinating here. Is it just the vaccines being harmful that is behind your decision, or is there a question in your mind about whether the vaccines work? I would want to be very confident that vaccines work before taking on the risk of side effects. Winnie HelloVaccinations > I just joined this group, heard about it through a natural > parenting > group that I belong to. I have three children that have never > been > vaccinated, ages 6,3, and 1. My core view is that I would never > > knowingly expose my children to something that could harm them. > The > arguments against vaccines have made sense to me living in the > United > States. However, it looks like my family will be moving to > Chiapas, > Mexico for three years, and I now find myself revisiting the > idea of > giving my children vaccines in order to protect them from any > harmful > diseases which are more prevalent in poor tropical countries. > Any help/ > advice in this subject area would be welcome if anyone has had a > > similar experience. In the meantime, thanks for all the > information > and I hope to be able to help when I can.> > Toni> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 you can do it. I myself was a night snacker . I now only eat 3 meals a day with exercise. I still have a snack at night . I love eating rice cakes really good snack. After doing this for 2 weeks it gets easier. If I can do it anyone can. It has been almost a month for me and I have lost 12 lbs. I still eat what I like. Just smaller pieces. Lots of salads. One more thing to do is use smaller plates. Good luck. KatWondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 In a message dated 5/6/2008 6:47:50 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, hillbillykat1@... writes: It has been almost a month for me and I have lost 12 lbs WOW Kat! Congrats!! in WAWondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 In a message dated 5/6/2008 3:44:43 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, chriscooperdixit@... writes: I have a problem with binging. If I diet I binge. I have tried every diet there is and failed. Yeah, there is just 'something' about the D-word and causing us to be set up for failure. I know different people need different things to motivate them and succeed, etc.... good luck with your OA program. Do share as you progress. Ps. thanks for the comment on my 12K.... if you are new here you got to miss all the rambling leading up to it this past few months LOL!! Now you gals have a year off (or not) - ha! Nice to meet you - good luck! in WAWondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Hi , I just finished my breakfast. I was able to stay abstinent yesterday for my first day. I followed my food plan and didn't eat in between meals. I have to drive to Indianapolis today for a Dr. appointment. Will be on the road all day and all those fast food rest. I'll stick to a salad and leave the rest to God. My husband & I when for a walk yesterday. The weather was perfect. I'm so grateful that I didn't binge yesterday. Let me know how you are doing. Blessings, Re: Hello In a message dated 5/6/2008 3:44:43 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, chriscooperdixit writes: I have a problem with binging. If I diet I binge. I have tried every diet there is and failed. Yeah, there is just 'something' about the D-word and causing us to be set up for failure. I know different people need different things to motivate them and succeed, etc.... good luck with your OA program. Do share as you progress. Ps. thanks for the comment on my 12K.... if you are new here you got to miss all the rambling leading up to it this past few months LOL!! Now you gals have a year off (or not) - ha! Nice to meet you - good luck! in WA Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Hi Kat, Good to hear from you. I was able to eat 3 meals yesterday with nothing in between. No binging which is a blessing for me. My first day. I'm driving today so will be on the road all day. All those fast food rest will be calling me. I'll stick with a salad and pray that I don't binge. Thanks for writing, Ann -Dixit Re: Hello you can do it. I myself was a night snacker . I now only eat 3 meals a day with exercise. I still have a snack at night . I love eating rice cakes really good snack. After doing this for 2 weeks it gets easier. If I can do it anyone can. It has been almost a month for me and I have lost 12 lbs. I still eat what I like. Just smaller pieces. Lots of salads. One more thing to do is use smaller plates. Good luck. Kat Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 In a message dated 5/7/2008 6:26:29 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, chriscooperdixit@... writes: I have to drive to Indianapolis today for a Dr. appointment. Will be on the road all day and all those fast food rest. I'll stick to a salad and leave the rest to God. How did your day-trip for the appointment go Chris? in WAWondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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