Re: OLE herxing

[Guest guest]

I once used OLE and had quite the same reaction...I got very flu-like, sick

and sleepy so much so that I decided to stop using it. Was it working? I

think probably. With all antivirals, there is a die-off period which is

quite uncomfortable and horrendous...it seems to be the process. My guess is

that it was working for you but of course this is only a guess..Barbara

[Guest guest]

Andy,

If your allergic to milk products then I can understand your difficulty with

the whey protein products as their all made from dairy sources. I thought I

was allergic to milk products for many years. However, after taking

artemesia (in tincture bottle sold at some health food stores) for a few

weeks my allergy dissapeared. It seems, according to Teitelbaum's

book, I had a parasitic infection that was killed off or greatly reduced by

taking the artemesia. There is also a prescription med that is used to kill

off the parasitic infection but according to Teitelbaum, artemesia works

just as well. Could it be possible that a parasitic infection is the cause

of your milk product allergy? If so, you may be able to eliminate it and

begin taking one of the whey protein products again. Good luck, Steve

Bullock

OLE herxing

>

> Hi Ken and All,

>

> When is a herx not a herx?

> Recently, as I have mentioned earlier, I have started taking (East Park's)

> Olive Leaf Extract (OLE) and as result am sleeping 12hrs a day and feeling

> exhausted. Is this a herx?

>

> A couple of months ago I quit ImmunoPro (IP whey product) after taking it

> for 3months and feeling really ill as a result. This was a bad reaction.

> (NOTE: For those thinking of taking whey products don't be put off as IP

> appears to have helped a number of patients)

>

> So given my earlier bad reaction to a treatment I am now asking myself if

I

> am herxing or not.

>

> Incidentally Ken are you still taking whey products? and have you heard of

> patients reacting badly to the whey product Imuplus?

>

> As I am allergic to dairy products I wander if I would react badly to all

> whey products. However in the meantime I am still trying to make up my

mind

> on the OLE. (I do resent expensive treatments that make me feel unwell)

>

> Any insights from the rest of the goup would be welcomed.

> Andy

>

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Andy,

OLE makes me feel very tired and somewhat nauseous. For myself, I

interpret this as herxing. I started with a low dose, and herxed,

then gradually ramped up the dose pretty high to get the same effect,

so that also makes me think it's herxing.

I know it's pricey, and we have been fortunate with that end of it,

but I have also been using it to keep the Candida under control.

Candida has been problematic for me since starting abx, and when I

went off OLE for about a week, I had a whopper of a Candida

overgrowth, so the appears to be important to me in that regard as

well.

I take my OLE at night, so it helps with my insomnia while I sleep it

off. I tend to wake up feeling a little icky, but it passes fairly

quickly after I've been walking around a bit. But for me the OLE is

coupled with abx for mycoplasma fighting, so once a day works.

Also, what you describe is pretty close to what I felt at first on

doxycycline. I was very tired and slept 12 hours a day, and was in

bed for roughly 14-16 hours a day. Doxycycline doesn't appear to do

anything anymore for me, after about 5 months of it.

Laurie L.