Re: Stania -Cheney's most promising study: recombinant human growth hormone and bovine growth factors

[Guest guest]

Stania,

Personally, I would not attempt the protocol if I once suffered from any

form of cancer with the possible exception of one of the more benign types

of skin cancer. HGH can cause existing cancer cells to proliferate. That

is why Cheney recommends a thorough cancer screening prior to beginning HGH

injections. I had a PSA prostate cancer blood test prior to beginning.

Just my opinion. Have you had the ISAC test done yet? If so, the FBGF

protocol is probably not beneficial and there is a superior protocol

(Berg's). Steve B.

Cheney's most promising study: recombinant

> > human growth hormone and bovine growth factors

> >

> >

> > > I haven't transcribed the portion of the tape where Cheney discussed

> this

> > incredibly exciting and promising study, but I have a copy of the

16-page

> > protocol, and this is so promising I just can't wait. If I need to make

> > additions or corrections when I get to that part of the tapes of my

visit,

> > I'll post the info later.

> > >

> > > This is the regimen that Cheney hopes will hold the answer to treating

> > Phase III CFIDS - " resusitating " injured/damaged brains and organ

systems.

> > This study combines injections of human Growth Hormone (hGH) and five

> > different bovine growth factors (bGF's).

> > >

> > > My perhaps oversimplified version is that the bGF's provide the

> > instructions for repairing the body - blueprints if you will. But

> blueprints

> > are useless without building materials. That's where the hGH comes in.

The

> > raw building materials.

> > >

> > > Based on the research of others that he has read in the past year, as

> well

> > as his own experience and work, Cheney now believes:

> > >

> > > (1) IgF-1 is no longer a reliable marker for hGH levels. I think a

> German

> > researcher proved this. Cheney is now doing a blood draw before and

after

> > the bicycle stress test to measure GH - actually one before and two

after.

> > GH should spike in response to a significant physical demand. In CFIDS

> > patients it's usually very blunted, and occasionally almost

non-existent.

> > >

> > > (2) There is a significant growth hormone deficiency in CFIDS.

Cheney's

> > results from the bike test blood draws are duplicating other recent

> research

> > in this regard. And if I remember correctly, he called GH the master

> > hormone, controlling all others, and just as importantly, controlling

> > protein synthesis. Without GH, the body cannot repair and heal itself.

> > Cheney has actually gotten some insurance companies to pay for hGH

> > injections on the basis of the bike test blood draws, which document the

> hGH

> > deficiency. (And hGH is very expensive.) The " gold standard test " for

hGH

> > levels is an ITT (Insulin Tolerance Test). But so far some insurance

> > companies are accepting the bike test blood results.

> > >

> > > (3) The previous trial using bovine growth factors (only two factors,

I

> > think), was not successful in some patients because they didn't have

> enough

> > hGH to synthesize protein - to make the repairs and do the rebuilding

that

> > the GF's were giving instructions for.

> > >

> > > The study that is just now getting underway is " an open label study to

> > evaluate the efficacy of combined hGH and bGF therapy in chronic fatigue

> > syndrome patients in various stages of illness. " The study has

> Institutional

> > Review Board IRB) approval. It will last six months. Patients must

undergo

> a

> > significant amount of testing before, during and after the study. The

> > patient's current treatment regimens must be approved and have been

> constant

> > (no new therapies) for 30 days prior to pretesting.

> > >

> > > Injections of rhGH will be given for the entire six months. In month

> two,

> > patients will add injections of mesenchyme, a fetal derived bGF, which

> will

> > continue for the remainder of the study. The remaining four bGF's will

be

> > injected for only one month, each in sequence: fetal derived liver bGF

in

> > month three, adolescent derived calf thymus bGF in month four,

adolescent

> > derived adrenal bGF in month five, and adolescent derived brain bFG in

> month

> > six.

> > >

> > > Hopefully we'll know the results of this study by fall of next year.

He

> is

> > tentatively scheduled to speak to our support group here in the Dallas -

> Ft.

> > Worth area next October. We'll get a full run down, I'm sure. If you

have

> > relatives or friends here, or just want to visit Texas, consider coming

in

> > October 2001! I'm almost certain we'll be making a videotape of that

> > seminar, which will be available for sale.

> > >

> > > In know that Cheney gave me more details of the research studies that

> led

> > him to the conclusions listed above, and also spoke of some of the

dangers

> > of human growth hormone injections. I'll get that info to you when I

can.

> > >

> > > Take care. Carol

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Thanks for info. I asked becaouse of my friend who had breast cancer. I

didn't have the ISAC panel yet - but my dr. told me to tell my haematologist

that she would be interested in my results - sounds like a lesson on

diplomacy. Maybe next year. I share your opinion of Berg's protocol

Stania

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Predmet: Re: Stania -Cheney's most promising study:

recombinant human growth hormone and bovine growth factors

> Stania,

>

> Personally, I would not attempt the protocol if I once suffered from any

> form of cancer with the possible exception of one of the more benign types

> of skin cancer. HGH can cause existing cancer cells to proliferate. That

> is why Cheney recommends a thorough cancer screening prior to beginning

HGH

> injections. I had a PSA prostate cancer blood test prior to beginning.

> Just my opinion. Have you had the ISAC test done yet? If so, the FBGF

> protocol is probably not beneficial and there is a superior protocol

> (Berg's). Steve B.

> Cheney's most promising study:

recombinant

> > > human growth hormone and bovine growth factors

> > >

> > >

> > > > I haven't transcribed the portion of the tape where Cheney discussed

> > this

> > > incredibly exciting and promising study, but I have a copy of the

> 16-page

> > > protocol, and this is so promising I just can't wait. If I need to

make

> > > additions or corrections when I get to that part of the tapes of my

> visit,

> > > I'll post the info later.

> > > >

> > > > This is the regimen that Cheney hopes will hold the answer to

treating

> > > Phase III CFIDS - " resusitating " injured/damaged brains and organ

> systems.

> > > This study combines injections of human Growth Hormone (hGH) and five

> > > different bovine growth factors (bGF's).

> > > >

> > > > My perhaps oversimplified version is that the bGF's provide the

> > > instructions for repairing the body - blueprints if you will. But

> > blueprints

> > > are useless without building materials. That's where the hGH comes in.

> The

> > > raw building materials.

> > > >

> > > > Based on the research of others that he has read in the past year,

as

> > well

> > > as his own experience and work, Cheney now believes:

> > > >

> > > > (1) IgF-1 is no longer a reliable marker for hGH levels. I think a

> > German

> > > researcher proved this. Cheney is now doing a blood draw before and

> after

> > > the bicycle stress test to measure GH - actually one before and two

> after.

> > > GH should spike in response to a significant physical demand. In CFIDS

> > > patients it's usually very blunted, and occasionally almost

> non-existent.

> > > >

> > > > (2) There is a significant growth hormone deficiency in CFIDS.

> Cheney's

> > > results from the bike test blood draws are duplicating other recent

> > research

> > > in this regard. And if I remember correctly, he called GH the master

> > > hormone, controlling all others, and just as importantly, controlling

> > > protein synthesis. Without GH, the body cannot repair and heal itself.

> > > Cheney has actually gotten some insurance companies to pay for hGH

> > > injections on the basis of the bike test blood draws, which document

the

> > hGH

> > > deficiency. (And hGH is very expensive.) The " gold standard test " for

> hGH

> > > levels is an ITT (Insulin Tolerance Test). But so far some insurance

> > > companies are accepting the bike test blood results.

> > > >

> > > > (3) The previous trial using bovine growth factors (only two

factors,

> I

> > > think), was not successful in some patients because they didn't have

> > enough

> > > hGH to synthesize protein - to make the repairs and do the rebuilding

> that

> > > the GF's were giving instructions for.

> > > >

> > > > The study that is just now getting underway is " an open label study

to

> > > evaluate the efficacy of combined hGH and bGF therapy in chronic

fatigue

> > > syndrome patients in various stages of illness. " The study has

> > Institutional

> > > Review Board IRB) approval. It will last six months. Patients must

> undergo

> > a

> > > significant amount of testing before, during and after the study. The

> > > patient's current treatment regimens must be approved and have been

> > constant

> > > (no new therapies) for 30 days prior to pretesting.

> > > >

> > > > Injections of rhGH will be given for the entire six months. In month

> > two,

> > > patients will add injections of mesenchyme, a fetal derived bGF, which

> > will

> > > continue for the remainder of the study. The remaining four bGF's will

> be

> > > injected for only one month, each in sequence: fetal derived liver bGF

> in

> > > month three, adolescent derived calf thymus bGF in month four,

> adolescent

> > > derived adrenal bGF in month five, and adolescent derived brain bFG in

> > month

> > > six.

> > > >

> > > > Hopefully we'll know the results of this study by fall of next year.

> He

> > is

> > > tentatively scheduled to speak to our support group here in the

Dallas -

> > Ft.

> > > Worth area next October. We'll get a full run down, I'm sure. If you

> have

> > > relatives or friends here, or just want to visit Texas, consider

coming

> in

> > > October 2001! I'm almost certain we'll be making a videotape of that

> > > seminar, which will be available for sale.

> > > >

> > > > In know that Cheney gave me more details of the research studies

that

> > led

> > > him to the conclusions listed above, and also spoke of some of the

> dangers

> > > of human growth hormone injections. I'll get that info to you when I

> can.

> > > >

> > > > Take care. Carol

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >