Re: Glutathione inaccessibility and Late stage illness?

March 17, 2001

In a message dated 3/16/01 11:43:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, rspc1@...

writes:

<< Dr. Ferre's theory would say the body is early aged by " CFS " so

that the organs and systems become less functional leading to

older age medical problems and earlier dementia, disease and

premature death in " CFIDS " (Only because the illness was not

properly treated earlier and detox never occurred at the needed

time, so now the collateral stage damage has advanced beyond

recovery to management of slow degenerative progress which

often reveals late stage liver disease, brain disintegration or

severe dysautonomia.

(Sorry so long--Michele, not as concise as my English teacher

days) >>

She has told me that this is the stage I am at. But I have had this illness

for over 14 years.

March 17, 2001

Nelly,

I agree about See and Ferre, but Cheney's 3 stages are a valid method of

classifying and tailoring more specific and successful treatments to

individual patients. Cheney has never claimed the 3 stages are set in

stone. Most PWC's have overlapping symptoms and some bounce back and forth

between two stages for long periods. Steve B.

Re: Glutathione inaccessibility and Late stage

illness?

> > She has told me that this is the stage I am at. But I have had this

> illness

> > for over 14 years.

>

> ,

> If Dr Ferre is in practice with Dr See, that doesn't say much about her

> credibility, AFAIC.

> I certainly think what she says above is purely theorical and no more

valid

> than Cheney's 3 stages. It's just fiction to me. I wonder what she wants

to

> sell you? ( " I just happen to have some Manatech little beauty that will do

> wonders " )

> I just wish we'd get onto CAUSES for heaven's sake instead of spirting out

> this kind of destructive crap!

> What does she expect people to do: sit down and wait for early death?!

> Nelly

>

> > << Dr. Ferre's theory would say the body is early aged by " CFS " so

> > that the organs and systems become less functional leading to

> > older age medical problems and earlier dementia, disease and

> > premature death in " CFIDS " (Only because the illness was not

> > properly treated earlier and detox never occurred at the needed

> > time, so now the collateral stage damage has advanced beyond

> > recovery to management of slow degenerative progress which

> > often reveals late stage liver disease, brain disintegration or

> > severe dysautonomia.

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

March 17, 2001

> She has told me that this is the stage I am at. But I have had this

illness

> for over 14 years.

,

If Dr Ferre is in practice with Dr See, that doesn't say much about her

credibility, AFAIC.

I certainly think what she says above is purely theorical and no more valid

than Cheney's 3 stages. It's just fiction to me. I wonder what she wants to

sell you? ( " I just happen to have some Manatech little beauty that will do

wonders " )

I just wish we'd get onto CAUSES for heaven's sake instead of spirting out

this kind of destructive crap!

What does she expect people to do: sit down and wait for early death?!

Nelly

> << Dr. Ferre's theory would say the body is early aged by " CFS " so

> that the organs and systems become less functional leading to

> older age medical problems and earlier dementia, disease and

> premature death in " CFIDS " (Only because the illness was not

> properly treated earlier and detox never occurred at the needed

> time, so now the collateral stage damage has advanced beyond

> recovery to management of slow degenerative progress which

> often reveals late stage liver disease, brain disintegration or

> severe dysautonomia.

March 17, 2001

Go to it Nelly! Let's never give up hope. And there is a light at the end of

the tunnel (and I mean in this world!) for many of us.

Judy whose lowgrade fever has just gone up darn it.