Guest guest Posted July 20, 2003 Report Share Posted July 20, 2003 Hi, It has been deeply disturbing and a matter of serious concern to see the contradictory reports being published related to Ponnamma’s case (Kuppam, Chittor Dist, and Andhra Pradesh). As an activist working with victims of commercial sexual exploitation for more than one decade dealing with abandoned dead bodies of AIDS victim is perhaps an everyday reality for us. Therefore the informations projected in the last few days are deeply concerning as somewhere things do not match up. For the last year and a half my organisation was also the nodal agency for the HIV counseling project and incidentally I have a counselor placed in Kuppam Area Hospital (Just last month we have handed over the project to another agency). So we on our end also made our enquiries from very reliable sources in the community to ascertain the validity of the story. Here are some of the facts that came to light: From the time Ponnamma has been found HIV positive it is her mother’s family that was looking after her and her HIV +ve child as against many families who take no responsibility for their infected kith and kin (we have come across hundreds of cases of family rejection). In the last one fortnight of Ponnamma’s life she was suffering from multiple opportunistic infections (bleeding, uncontrolled diarrohea, skin eruptions, oral thrush etc) which in any middle class family also is difficult to handle by one aging person. It was Ponnamma’s mother who was her home nurse during this whole period. This work she has been doing over and above her daily struggle to survive (she is vendor) and look after the little girl. In the last one week before the death the smell and stench near the sick person was so high that it was impossible for any other person to live in the same place (ageing mother, little child and a brother). Therefore instead of abandoning the sick in a Government Hospital (which again happens many a times-in one case we had the mother abandoning her newly born HIV positive child in the hospital and absconding) the mother and brother constructed a temporary shelter outside the house to keep Ponnamma.She died three days later. In the meantime unable to bear the pain and trauma that his sister was subjected to, the brother has been going to the local government hospital to request the Superintendent for some medical care. In an unprecedented move and a rare gesture of humanity the Superintendent has send the lab technician to go to the house and draw blood to do some test. Due to the frailness of the victim (usually full blown AIDS cases lose a lot of weight and are quarter their original size) the technician found it difficult to draw the sample but finally managed to do so. On the day the victim died apart from no movements at all or no evidence of breathing the stench around the body was apparently unbearable. It is usually unheard in villages that families take dead bodies for a death certificate. So the family’s greatest concern was to give the last rites at the earliest (probably their experience with their own relations was not close enough for them to wait for anybody to come for the funeral) The child is still looked after by the grand mother. All this above facts for me as a person in the field is a phenomenal example of community-based care and support of HIV positive people. In these times of acute stigma and discrimination which awareness programs cannot overnight wipe out it is a great example of family bonding.I have dealt with horrendous cases of mother abandoning her own baby, wives their husbands, families their children so many times in the last three years. Every such incident used to make me question blood ties. And here is a case that gives me immense hope that community based care could still be a reality. But in all these 'hungama' I wonder whether anybody has even thought what the mother and brother are going through. For all the care and support they gave within the realities of their existence, in return they have have been accused of murder, torture to death, burnt alive! This incident also makes me wonder why the groups who created the rumours in the first place and those credible institutions that addressed the issue made a case of something that was never true. Is their something that is much more than obvious? Does the fact that Kuppam happens to be the Honourable CM’s constituency have anything to do with these exaggerated sensations. What is the accountability of the media to the civil society when it writes a story without verifying facts? Last night my counselor called up to find out whether we can take the HIV positive child of late Ponnamma in our HIV home for children. Surprised that the grand mother wanted to give away the child I asked my counselor what had happened. Apparently the grandmother feels scared to look after the child now, as she feels she may be accused of murdering the child next! WHAT HAVE WE DONE? Dr Sunitha Krishnan General Secretary Prajwala Email-sunitha_2002@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2003 Report Share Posted July 22, 2003 GROUP: While I agree with Meera about the possible cover up, please let us treat Each other with respect and dignity...we must agree to learn to disagree with grace, compassion and empathy. If not we shall fall prey to the syndrome, the Mechanism of, " divide and conquer " . Which is totally counter-productive. To Paraphrase the words of, Weldon , “let us march on until victory is Won " . I'm not even going to get into, woody guthrie's, " which side are you on? " Enough said! Ok? Surendra E-mail: surendra@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2003 Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 Dear FORUM, I am new to this group and this is my first post. To begin with I must appreciate the moderator and the members who make this group so lively with vivid discussions. I have been tracking the mails on Kuppam case. To begin with, I would like to echo my thoughts with those of Surendra '...we must agree to learn to disagree...' Over the time I feel the focus of discussion is shifting from issue to incidence. Most of us may never know the truth behind the story. Without undermining the importance of knowing the truth behind such incidences, I would say, lets look at the broader issues - Gender discrimination, Taboo and fear factor that were responsible for culminating into such incidence. And before pointing fingers on each other, we all should go for some introspection. Where and when by our words, by acts of commsission or omission, by acceptance or denial we helped these practices to perpetuate. Why should we keep disowning the responsibility because we simply were not assigned this responsibility? Something all of us have failed to do, which might have prevented this. Whatever the sector, and whatever the field of work, we can and should contribute to the cause. The 'story' (fact or fiction) is an eye-opener and should make us aware of the possible areas where we can work on. Let us fix the problem and not the blame. Finally I would beg to differ from the member who says " India's honour is at stake.. " India is a country of rich cultural heritage that has tought so many things to the outside world. Everything in the house may not be perfect but then we have at least admitted that in an open forum. Vineet Vineet Bhatia Consultant - TB 533 'C'wing, Nirman Bhavan Delhi - 110011 e-MAIL: bhatiav@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2003 Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 Dear Colleagues: As one of many who supported WINS and other folks who reported this stoning, I would like to hear back from R.Meera about whether indeed this was a " figment of one's imagination. " I think that if indeed this is true, then Rajeev Sadanandan's field report does raise very very important points. Even if it is still true--(he leaves open the issue of deliberate neglect)--the questions of poverty/litigation and social scapegoating (of family) are terribly important ones. At the same time, knowing a bit of how fiction and politics and corruption are such common matters in Indian life, I think we should wait for more information. Given the international attention this case has received, given that this is the CM's constituency, is it plausible that there could be a cover up? I think it is vital, then, that R. Meera and other colleagues respond to this very serious charge of fiction! As someone who does research on the brutal feudal realities of daily life for many many Indian women, I remain profoundly skeptical about things changing for women who are particularly vulnerable because of AIDS. If indeed this case is utterly untrue, I think we should STILL be very cautious about generalizations regarding the great strides that have been made in terms of the stigma, ostracism and neglect that are experienced by Indian women living with AIDS and PWLA, in general. Sincerely, Piya Chatterjee Associate Professor Department of women's Studies University of California at Riverside E-mail: piyachatterjee@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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