Re: Antivirals & antibiotics

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Ever since I went on doxycycline (for just 2 weeks) several months ago for my

CFS, I have been sick. I am not saying that the doxycycline started it but

it sure did co-incide. I have had a kidney infection and while I was on

antibiotics for it, developed shortness of breath which was undiagnosed even

when I went to an ER three weeks ago and said something is very wrong. They

took a medical history and when they learned that I had been sick for 18

years sort of blew me off even though I tried to tell them that my chest wall

pain (I've been ddiagnosed with chronic costochondritis) was MUCH worse than

ever. Last Sunday I woke up gasping for air, went to the ER again and said

I'm not leaving until I have a diagnosis. Was there for 3 days and diagnosed

with congestive heart failure. This is a total shock for me because the only

risk factor I have is my father's history of heart disease -- otherwise I

don't fit the profile as my blood pressure is 110/70, cholesterol is 125, I

am not overweight, have no edema, am an exerciser (in fact on the treadmill

alone my heart looked great; fortunately they did some nuclear scans before

and after walking on the treadmill which showed the problem).

This may be the result of a systemic infection and not a coincidence that it

began with the kidney infection (I have lupus-like antibodies though haven't

been diagnosed with full-fledged lupus). In any case my own feeling is that

something happened when I took the doxycycline that started off a chain

reaction of illness and I really caution anyone who is considering taking

antibiotics to carefully research the possible side effects. I know this

will anger the people on a certain list that is devoted to taking antibiotics

but it is my experience.

Sincerely,

Bonnie

[Guest guest]

steve how come some docs think cfs is causd by canida

yeast i no one lady that got better with that

treatment? And antibitics dont they weaken your

immune system? are the test for the virus 100 percent

accurate? i have called alot of people since i have

been sick with this and the storys from familys are

very confusing one lady says her whole family has lyme

they are very sick 5 of them how could that be lyme

are the symptoms the same for lyme cfs? lyme patients

i talk to say that gulf war is realyy lyme vice versa

who the hec is right anymore?

--- stevendupre <stevendupre@...> wrote:

> Hello,

> I have been corresponding with a few people who

> have been successful

> with the antiviral, Famvir, at low doses to begin

> with. Then, later adding

> Zithromax to deal with the Mycoplasma.

> I was wondering if anyone on the list had

> followed this type of protocol

> with success, meaning increased functionality. Also,

> I know Ken L. had success

> with just antibiotics, but I'm wondering how many

> have increased their functionality

> using this means.

> I have tested positive for Mycoplasma, but

> recently tested negative for

> HHV-6 through ViraCor. Later, I found that I should

> have had my doctor

> test me through the Wisconsin Lab of Knox &

> Carrigan.

> I washed out after 3 1/2 months on doxycycline

> due to severe tendinitis

> which was very crippling. Also, I understand that

> antivirals need to be

> used with caution because of their effect on the

> liver.

> Thanks for any help, Steve

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Some people with CFS do have yeast problems. Others (like me) do not. In

fact, I had a tiny bit and it went away with antibiotics. I have heard this

from many people, especially those on doxycycline. I don't know if doxy

acts as an anti-fungal, or if improving the immune system just allows it to

kill off the yeast.

Some of the symptoms of lyme and CFS are the same. Some people with CFS

have lyme. But did the lyme cause the CFS or do you get lyme because your

immune system is working because of the CFS? The problem with saying CFS =

lyme is that many people with CFS also have other viruses and bacterias.

Lyme is only one of a dozen common ones.

Doris

Re: Antivirals & antibiotics

> steve how come some docs think cfs is causd by canida

> yeast i no one lady that got better with that

> treatment? And antibitics dont they weaken your

> immune system? are the test for the virus 100 percent

> accurate? i have called alot of people since i have

> been sick with this and the storys from familys are

> very confusing one lady says her whole family has lyme

> they are very sick 5 of them how could that be lyme

> are the symptoms the same for lyme cfs? lyme patients

> i talk to say that gulf war is realyy lyme vice versa

> who the hec is right anymore?

[Guest guest]

i no alot of people that got better without antibitics

why is that ?

--- Doris Brown <dorisbrown9@...> wrote:

> Some people with CFS do have yeast problems. Others

> (like me) do not. In

> fact, I had a tiny bit and it went away with

> antibiotics. I have heard this

> from many people, especially those on doxycycline.

> I don't know if doxy

> acts as an anti-fungal, or if improving the immune

> system just allows it to

> kill off the yeast.

>

> Some of the symptoms of lyme and CFS are the same.

> Some people with CFS

> have lyme. But did the lyme cause the CFS or do you

> get lyme because your

> immune system is working because of the CFS? The

> problem with saying CFS =

> lyme is that many people with CFS also have other

> viruses and bacterias.

> Lyme is only one of a dozen common ones.

> Doris

> Re: Antivirals &

> antibiotics

>

>

> > steve how come some docs think cfs is causd by

> canida

> > yeast i no one lady that got better with that

> > treatment? And antibitics dont they weaken your

> > immune system? are the test for the virus 100

> percent

> > accurate? i have called alot of people since i

> have

> > been sick with this and the storys from familys

> are

> > very confusing one lady says her whole family has

> lyme

> > they are very sick 5 of them how could that be

> lyme

> > are the symptoms the same for lyme cfs? lyme

> patients

> > i talk to say that gulf war is realyy lyme vice

> versa

> > who the hec is right anymore?

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Got better from what? You have to remember that people with CFS have all

different things. Some have bacteria, some have viruses, some have yeast,

some have mercury. Antibiotics would only be necessary if you have a

bacteria.

Doris

Re: Antivirals & antibiotics

> i no alot of people that got better without antibitics

> why is that ?

> --- Doris Brown <dorisbrown9@...> wrote:

> > Some people with CFS do have yeast problems. Others

> > (like me) do not. In

> > fact, I had a tiny bit and it went away with

> > antibiotics. I have heard this

> > from many people, especially those on doxycycline.

> > I don't know if doxy

> > acts as an anti-fungal, or if improving the immune

> > system just allows it to

> > kill off the yeast.

> >

> > Some of the symptoms of lyme and CFS are the same.

> > Some people with CFS

> > have lyme. But did the lyme cause the CFS or do you

> > get lyme because your

> > immune system is working because of the CFS? The

> > problem with saying CFS =

> > lyme is that many people with CFS also have other

> > viruses and bacterias.

> > Lyme is only one of a dozen common ones.

> > Doris

[Guest guest]

i guess i figured if we all have cfs we all have the

same thing.

--- Doris Brown <dorisbrown9@...> wrote:

> Got better from what? You have to remember that

> people with CFS have all

> different things. Some have bacteria, some have

> viruses, some have yeast,

> some have mercury. Antibiotics would only be

> necessary if you have a

> bacteria.

>

> Doris

> Re: Antivirals &

> antibiotics

>

>

> > i no alot of people that got better without

> antibitics

> > why is that ?

> > --- Doris Brown <dorisbrown9@...> wrote:

> > > Some people with CFS do have yeast problems.

> Others

> > > (like me) do not. In

> > > fact, I had a tiny bit and it went away with

> > > antibiotics. I have heard this

> > > from many people, especially those on

> doxycycline.

> > > I don't know if doxy

> > > acts as an anti-fungal, or if improving the

> immune

> > > system just allows it to

> > > kill off the yeast.

> > >

> > > Some of the symptoms of lyme and CFS are the

> same.

> > > Some people with CFS

> > > have lyme. But did the lyme cause the CFS or do

> you

> > > get lyme because your

> > > immune system is working because of the CFS?

> The

> > > problem with saying CFS =

> > > lyme is that many people with CFS also have

> other

> > > viruses and bacterias.

> > > Lyme is only one of a dozen common ones.

> > > Doris

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Steve wrote:

>I washed out after 3 1/2 months on doxycycline due to severe tendinitis

>which was very crippling.

>Thanks for any help, Steve

Steve, Does This mean that you got tendinitis from taking doxycycline?

I suffer severely from tendinitis myself and am considering taking doxycycline

so I would really like to know if there is a risk of making my tendinitis worse.

Does anyone else have experiences with tendinitis?

Thank you in advance,

Kind regards,

Lene