Guest guest Posted June 19, 2002 Report Share Posted June 19, 2002 In a message dated 6/19/2002 5:30:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, luke@... writes: > > > > > > I have found a supplement that seems to suppress HHV6 enough to > eliminate all the symptoms I get. Hi Luke : ) I want to second Luke's recommendation of red marine algae. I have been using it since Luke recommended it to me (we live near each other), and it definitely helps with my main problems, which are fevers, painful lymph nodes and a general " flu-like " malaise. I also get it from dynamune.com (no affiliation). It also increases my energy, I think because with the viruses better contained, energy is freed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2002 Report Share Posted June 19, 2002 Luke, are you just a patient, or do you have some financial interest in this product you are mentioning? Adrienne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2002 Report Share Posted June 19, 2002 Sounds interesting,what symptoms did it help?Any effect on fatigue or sleep? > I have found a supplement that seems to suppress HHV6 enough to > eliminate all the symptoms I get. I have been using it for 5-6 > months, tried stopping a couple of times and gotten the symptoms back > in a few days or a week, so it doesn't appear to get rid of the > virus, but definitely kills the symptoms even if it doesn't kill the > bug. > > It is called red marine algae and is sold mostly as a remedy for > genital herpes. I tried it in case it is effective against other > herpes viruses and it worked for me. > > The cheapest place I have found it is http://www.dynamune.com/ They > sell it under the name Rhodoplex. I take 5 tabs per day, though 4 > might be enough. I am gradually lowering the dose to see what is the > minimum. > > Good luck, > > Luke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2002 Report Share Posted June 19, 2002 boy i am beginning to smell a sales pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2002 Report Share Posted June 20, 2002 It was mostly flu like symptoms: malaise, generally feeling like hell. Not fatigue directly, though I did increase my activity level just because I wasn't feeling so lousy. Luke -- In @y..., " feige2see " <feige2see@y...> wrote: > Sounds interesting,what symptoms did it help?Any effect on fatigue or > sleep? > > I have found a supplement that seems to suppress HHV6 enough to > > eliminate all the symptoms I get. I have been using it for 5-6 > > months, tried stopping a couple of times and gotten the symptoms > back > > in a few days or a week, so it doesn't appear to get rid of the > > virus, but definitely kills the symptoms even if it doesn't kill > the > > bug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2002 Report Share Posted June 20, 2002 >Could either of you tell me how much it costs? L > > I have found a supplement that seems to suppress HHV6 enough to >> eliminate all the symptoms I get. > >Hi Luke : ) I want to second Luke's recommendation of red marine algae. I >have been using it since Luke recommended it to me (we live near each other), >and it definitely helps with my main problems, which are fevers, painful >lymph nodes and a general " flu-like " malaise. I also get it from >dynamune.com (no affiliation). > It also increases my energy, I think because with the viruses better >contained, energy is freed up. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2002 Report Share Posted June 20, 2002 In a message dated 6/20/2002 5:19:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time, lucey001@... writes: > > > > > > >Could either of you tell me how much it costs? > fifteen dollars for a bottle of 90. I don't have a financial interest and as far as know, Luke doesnt either. We are in the same local support group here, that's how he happened to tell me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2002 Report Share Posted June 20, 2002 In a message dated 6/20/2002 9:03:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, eml151@... writes: > > > > > > I was curious, the red marine alge lowered > HHV6...is this anecdotal or a scientificically > hi : ) I personally have no idea if it's the hhv6 it's working on. I just know that I have tested positive for active hhv6 (pcr test for antigen in the blood) and the algae helps my " viral " symptoms. Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2002 Report Share Posted June 20, 2002 Hi! I also have a post CFS friend that uses Red Marine Algae and recommends it highly. I use butter for my cold sores. I put it on when they break out and make sure I have butter daily in my diet. I haven't had a cold sore for a year. Merle lanyardus wrote: > I have found a supplement that seems to suppress HHV6 enough to > eliminate all the symptoms I get. I have been using it for 5-6 > months, tried stopping a couple of times and gotten the symptoms back > in a few days or a week, so it doesn't appear to get rid of the > virus, but definitely kills the symptoms even if it doesn't kill the > bug. > > It is called red marine algae and is sold mostly as a remedy for > genital herpes. I tried it in case it is effective against other > herpes viruses and it worked for me. > > The cheapest place I have found it is http://www.dynamune.com/ They > sell it under the name Rhodoplex. I take 5 tabs per day, though 4 > might be enough. I am gradually lowering the dose to see what is the > minimum. > > Good luck, > > Luke > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2002 Report Share Posted June 20, 2002 I was curious, the red marine alge lowered HHV6...is this anecdotal or a scientificically measured and documented relationship? The HHV6 and the symptoms you're talking about.. is there a scientifically proven causual relationship between the two or is this also anecdotal?............................... not that there's anything wrong with anecdotal stories, I would just like to read the evidience, it there any, -- Re: " Cure " for HHV6 symptoms In a message dated 6/19/2002 5:30:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, luke@... writes: > > > > > > I have found a supplement that seems to suppress HHV6 enough to > eliminate all the symptoms I get. Hi Luke : ) I want to second Luke's recommendation of red marine algae. I have been using it since Luke recommended it to me (we live near each other) and it definitely helps with my main problems, which are fevers, painful lymph nodes and a general " flu-like " malaise. I also get it from dynamune.com (no affiliation). It also increases my energy, I think because with the viruses better contained, energy is freed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2002 Report Share Posted June 20, 2002 Has it been tested for mercury or other heavy metals? Where does it come from - at least the particular brand you are using? Donna in NC Re: " Cure " for HHV6 symptoms > In a message dated 6/20/2002 5:19:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > lucey001@... writes: > > >Could either of you tell me how much it costs? > > > > fifteen dollars for a bottle of 90. I don't have a financial interest and as > far as know, Luke doesnt either. We are in the same local support group > here, that's how he happened to tell me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2002 Report Share Posted June 20, 2002 This is all new to me, but I found a couple of references on Medline, don't know if it's the same strain of red marine algae. Laurie 1: Z Naturforsch [C] 2000 Sep-Oct;55(9-10):830-5 Related Articles, Books, LinkOut Antiherpes virus effect of the red marine alga Polysiphonia denudata. Serkedjieva J. Institute of Microbiology, Bulgarian Academy of Sciences, Sofia. viroljul@... The water extract from the red marine alga Polysiphonia denudata (Dillwyn) Kutz. from the Bulgarian Black Sea coast selectively inhibited the reproduction of herpes virus type 1 and type 2 in cell cultures (EC50=8.7 to 47.7 mg/ml) as shown by the reduction of virus- induced cytopathic effect and viral infectivity. The virus- inhibitory effect was dose-related, strain-specific and depended on virus inoculum. The inhibition affected adsorption as well as the intracellular stages of viral replication. The presence of the extract throughout the whole replicative cycle was necessary for the full expression of the antiviral effect. In higher concentrations (MIC90=6.5 mg/ml) the extract exhibited strong extracellular virus inactivating activity. PMID: 11098839 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] 1: Phytomedicine 2001 Jan;8(1):53-8 Related Articles, Books, LinkOut Inhibitory effect of sulfated galactans from the marine alga Bostrychia montagnei on herpes simplex virus replication in vitro. Duarte ME, Noseda DG, Noseda MD, Tulio S, Pujol CA, Damonte EB. Departamento de Bioquimica, Universidade Federal do Parana, Centro Politecnico, Curitiba, Brasil. Sulfated polysaccharides exhibit many biological properties such as antiviral and anticoagulant activities. Herein, we report the antiviral activity of sulfated galactans extracted from the red sea- weed Bostrychia montagnei against herpes simplex virus types 1 (strain F and the thymidine kinase-deficient strains Field and B2006) and 2 (strain G). Two crude extracts obtained with cold and hot water as well as some fractions obtained by anion exchange chromatography, inhibited significantly the replication of the different strains of herpesviruses as determined by plaque reduction assays. The inhibitory effect of the compounds studied here took place only when they were added during the adsorption period. They were found to be highly selective antiviral substances, causing no impairment of Vero cell viability. Furthermore, they had no direct inactivating effect on virions by incubation in a virucidal assay. The antiviral activity could be correlated with the molecular weight and sulfate content of the polysaccharides. Although sulfated polysaccharides are generally endowed with anticoagulant properties, the results of the activated partial thromboplastin time and the thrombine time assays indicated that the natural sulfated polysaccharides from Bostrychia montagnei have very low anticoagulant activity, confirming that there is no relation between the antiviral and anticoagulant properties. PMID: 11292240 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 Thanks Laurie! I sent a copy of this to my doctor. I've already been trying to get him to try it on a few patients. Maybe this will turn the trick. Luke > This is all new to me, but I found a couple of references on > Medline, don't know if it's the same strain of red marine algae. > Laurie > > > 1: Z Naturforsch [C] 2000 Sep-Oct;55(9-10):830-5 Related Articles, > Books, LinkOut > > > Antiherpes virus effect of the red marine alga Polysiphonia denudata. > > Serkedjieva J. > > Institute of Microbiology, Bulgarian Academy of Sciences, Sofia. > viroljul@b... > > The water extract from the red marine alga Polysiphonia denudata > (Dillwyn) Kutz. from the Bulgarian Black Sea coast selectively > inhibited the reproduction of herpes virus type 1 and type 2 in cell > cultures (EC50=8.7 to 47.7 mg/ml) as shown by the reduction of virus- > induced cytopathic effect and viral infectivity. The virus- > inhibitory effect was dose-related, strain-specific and depended on > virus inoculum. The inhibition affected adsorption as well as the > intracellular stages of viral replication. The presence of the > extract throughout the whole replicative cycle was necessary for the > full expression of the antiviral effect. In higher concentrations > (MIC90=6.5 mg/ml) the extract exhibited strong extracellular virus > inactivating activity. > > PMID: 11098839 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > > > 1: Phytomedicine 2001 Jan;8(1):53-8 Related Articles, Books, > LinkOut > > > Inhibitory effect of sulfated galactans from the marine alga > Bostrychia montagnei on herpes simplex virus replication in vitro. > > Duarte ME, Noseda DG, Noseda MD, Tulio S, Pujol CA, Damonte EB. > > Departamento de Bioquimica, Universidade Federal do Parana, Centro > Politecnico, Curitiba, Brasil. > > Sulfated polysaccharides exhibit many biological properties such as > antiviral and anticoagulant activities. Herein, we report the > antiviral activity of sulfated galactans extracted from the red sea- > weed Bostrychia montagnei against herpes simplex virus types 1 > (strain F and the thymidine kinase-deficient strains Field and > B2006) and 2 (strain G). Two crude extracts obtained with cold and > hot water as well as some fractions obtained by anion exchange > chromatography, inhibited significantly the replication of the > different strains of herpesviruses as determined by plaque reduction > assays. The inhibitory effect of the compounds studied here took > place only when they were added during the adsorption period. They > were found to be highly selective antiviral substances, causing no > impairment of Vero cell viability. Furthermore, they had no direct > inactivating effect on virions by incubation in a virucidal assay. > The antiviral activity could be correlated with the molecular weight > and sulfate content of the polysaccharides. Although sulfated > polysaccharides are generally endowed with anticoagulant properties, > the results of the activated partial thromboplastin time and the > thrombine time assays indicated that the natural sulfated > polysaccharides from Bostrychia montagnei have very low > anticoagulant activity, confirming that there is no relation between > the antiviral and anticoagulant properties. > > PMID: 11292240 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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