BHT warning and antivirals being effective at reducing or ending CFS

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In a message dated 10/19/02 4:11:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

writes:

> i honestly don't have the energy to research BHT at the moment, but i

> wanted to know what it stood for so i did a quick search on google

> and this is what i got:

>

> Lung tumor promotion by BHT, Malkinson, AM, Crisp Data Base National

> Institutes Of Health 1999

>

> " ...The food additive, butylated hydroxytoluene (BHT), encourages the

> development of tumors from previously initiated cells. ...Chronic

> administration of BHT to inbred mice down-regulates the pulmonary

> concentrations of the alpha isozyme of protein kinase C (PKCa) and

> calpain in promotion-sensitive strains ... " The researchers are

> searching for the gene responsible.

>

>

> here is the link to the full articles BHT and other food additives.

>

> http://www.feingold.org/bht.html

>

> i know this report might be misleading (and i didn't even read the

> whole thing), but just in case it isn't, i wanted to post it. please

> if you find out that BHT is not dangerous, let me know because i

> don't want to scare people away from something that might be helpful.

>

> thanks

> bill

>

Hey Bill, I actually did do an extensive study on BHT last night and I

couldn't find much in the way of cancer. In one study cancer was actually

inhibited and other studies show its antiviral effects. Others have been

taking it for supposed anti-aging effects for 25 years now and some might

argue that if it was cancer causing then we'd know about it by now. Who

knows. The report you posted suggested that BHT may help cancer to spread in

a lung tumor that was already there and in imbred mice. Are imbred mice

inferior genetically? I am not sure what to make of this short article and

it appears they are trying to look for a gene responsible. Not much to go by

there so it could be irrelevant. I also was at the Keep Hope Alive website

which is geared more toward HIV/AIDS patients but as you know there is a lot

to learn from these guys b/c they are the ones who have to worry about the

herpes family more than us b/c it is not HIV/AIDS that kills them but that

they are made more susceptible to other viruses, including CMV which can

cause blindness to AIDS patients. From my recollection last night I read

over an interview that Mark Conlee had with some popular AIDS guy who has

been successful at keeping his AIDS from getting worse and pushing it back to

almost untraceable levels and this guy took BHT and if I recall correctly he

said he stopped taking it b/c there were no more detectible levels of the

certain herpes virus (I think it was HHV6 but I am not sure as I can't

remember). Go to www.keephopealive.com I think it is or do a search for it

and read the interview yourself and you can correct me if I have it wrong. I

am going to try to call Steve Fowkes (head guru chemist guy at

CERI--Cognitive Enhancement Research Institute) myself this Mon and I'll

report to the group what he says about BHT and if it can truly eradicate

herpes. That is what I am after if at all possible is total erradication of

herpes, for me EBV. I also read studies of people being treated for their

EBV (with antivirals such as Valtrex and Valcyte) and majority improving on

their fatigue significantly or their chronic fatigue ending totally. Sounds

good and I don't remember too many here on Exp who had positive herpes virus

and tried Valtrex. I think Valcyte is the newest one and more powerful than

Valtrex but it is only available for those infected with CMV to treat

retinitis. I'm pretty sure I will therefore be trying Valtrex here in the

next few weeks and of course I'll be presenting my thoughts in how I improve

if at all and at the same time I think I will get Chisolm's EBV formula and

will be doing BHT and lysine and maybe monolaurin/loric acid (from coconut),

olive leaf extract, and tumeric--hit em hard with a bunch of things and all

at once. Sound like a plan?

[Guest guest]

Many researchers credit the use of BHT as a food preservative for the

decline in stomach cancer. I'm not sure if this is because BHT is a cancer

inhibitor or because rancid fats (which BHT prevents) cause cancer.

Apparently there is evidence for both.

++PLS

BHT warning and antivirals being effective at

reducing or ending CFS

> In a message dated 10/19/02 4:11:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> writes:

>

>

> > i honestly don't have the energy to research BHT at the moment, but i

> > wanted to know what it stood for so i did a quick search on google

> > and this is what i got:

> >

> > Lung tumor promotion by BHT, Malkinson, AM, Crisp Data Base National

> > Institutes Of Health 1999

> >

> > " ...The food additive, butylated hydroxytoluene (BHT), encourages the

> > development of tumors from previously initiated cells. ...Chronic

> > administration of BHT to inbred mice down-regulates the pulmonary

> > concentrations of the alpha isozyme of protein kinase C (PKCa) and

> > calpain in promotion-sensitive strains ... " The researchers are

> > searching for the gene responsible.

> >

> >

> > here is the link to the full articles BHT and other food additives.

> >

> > http://www.feingold.org/bht.html

> >

> > i know this report might be misleading (and i didn't even read the

> > whole thing), but just in case it isn't, i wanted to post it. please

> > if you find out that BHT is not dangerous, let me know because i

> > don't want to scare people away from something that might be helpful.

> >

> > thanks

> > bill

> >

> Hey Bill, I actually did do an extensive study on BHT last night and I

> couldn't find much in the way of cancer. In one study cancer was actually

> inhibited and other studies show its antiviral effects. Others have been

> taking it for supposed anti-aging effects for 25 years now and some might

> argue that if it was cancer causing then we'd know about it by now. Who

> knows. The report you posted suggested that BHT may help cancer to spread

in

> a lung tumor that was already there and in imbred mice. Are imbred mice

> inferior genetically? I am not sure what to make of this short article

and

> it appears they are trying to look for a gene responsible. Not much to go

by

> there so it could be irrelevant. I also was at the Keep Hope Alive

website

> which is geared more toward HIV/AIDS patients but as you know there is a

lot

> to learn from these guys b/c they are the ones who have to worry about the

> herpes family more than us b/c it is not HIV/AIDS that kills them but that

> they are made more susceptible to other viruses, including CMV which can

> cause blindness to AIDS patients. From my recollection last night I read

> over an interview that Mark Conlee had with some popular AIDS guy who has

> been successful at keeping his AIDS from getting worse and pushing it back

to

> almost untraceable levels and this guy took BHT and if I recall correctly

he

> said he stopped taking it b/c there were no more detectible levels of the

> certain herpes virus (I think it was HHV6 but I am not sure as I can't

> remember). Go to www.keephopealive.com I think it is or do a search for

it

> and read the interview yourself and you can correct me if I have it wrong.

I

> am going to try to call Steve Fowkes (head guru chemist guy at

> CERI--Cognitive Enhancement Research Institute) myself this Mon and I'll

> report to the group what he says about BHT and if it can truly eradicate

> herpes. That is what I am after if at all possible is total erradication

of

> herpes, for me EBV. I also read studies of people being treated for their

> EBV (with antivirals such as Valtrex and Valcyte) and majority improving

on

> their fatigue significantly or their chronic fatigue ending totally.

Sounds

> good and I don't remember too many here on Exp who had positive herpes

virus

> and tried Valtrex. I think Valcyte is the newest one and more powerful

than

> Valtrex but it is only available for those infected with CMV to treat

> retinitis. I'm pretty sure I will therefore be trying Valtrex here in the

> next few weeks and of course I'll be presenting my thoughts in how I

improve

> if at all and at the same time I think I will get Chisolm's EBV formula

and

> will be doing BHT and lysine and maybe monolaurin/loric acid (from

coconut),

> olive leaf extract, and tumeric--hit em hard with a bunch of things and

all

> at once. Sound like a plan?

>

>

>

>