Re: Totally confused about taking NAC if have mercury probs...(Nil/anyone)

[Guest guest]

I depends on whether you have high cysteine. If your cysteine is high (and

it sometimes is with people with mercury poisoning) then taking NAC will

make you feel worse. If your cysteine is low, then it can't hurt. Whether

it can combine into glutathione depends on whether you have the other things

in your body that it takes to make the glutathione from it.

The only way I know to know if your cysteine is high is to do the Great

Smokies comprehensive detox panel. Some people claim that if you get sick

from sulfur foods like eggs and brocolli then your cysteine is high, but

that symptom did not correlate with my high or low cysteine levels.

Thanks,

Doris

----- Original Message -----

> Can anyone help my muddled brain here...I have been going around in

> circles for days reading firstly that NAC is good for glutathione

> conjugation and helping removing mercury...then I find evidence

> totally disputing this and saying the exact opposite.

[Guest guest]

Many thanks Doris, will do the test and get the result before going

ahead...

Nell.

> I depends on whether you have high cysteine. If your cysteine is

high (and

> it sometimes is with people with mercury poisoning) then taking NAC

will

> make you feel worse. If your cysteine is low, then it can't hurt.

Whether

> it can combine into glutathione depends on whether you have the

other things

> in your body that it takes to make the glutathione from it.

>

> The only way I know to know if your cysteine is high is to do the

Great

> Smokies comprehensive detox panel. Some people claim that if you

get sick

> from sulfur foods like eggs and brocolli then your cysteine is

high, but

> that symptom did not correlate with my high or low cysteine levels.

> Thanks,

> Doris

> ----- Original Message -----

> > Can anyone help my muddled brain here...I have been going around

in

> > circles for days reading firstly that NAC is good for glutathione

> > conjugation and helping removing mercury...then I find evidence

> > totally disputing this and saying the exact opposite.

[Guest guest]

nell

this might seem like an oversimplified approach, but why not try to

get your mercury levels down first, and then attack the glutathione

problem without having to worry about the potential poisoning.

thanks

bill

> Can anyone help my muddled brain here...I have been going around in

> circles for days reading firstly that NAC is good for glutathione

> conjugation and helping removing mercury...then I find evidence

> totally disputing this and saying the exact opposite.

>

> I have mercury poisoning and very bad MCS, I have a hard time

> tolerating anything at all, especially the whey, I need something

to

> help glutathione and my liver, I thought the NAC sounded like just

> what I needed, now I am totally confused....

>

> Does anyone know if it is safe to take NAC if you have mercury

> problems? (my fillings have been removed)....and how do you break

out

> of this viscious circle of being toxic yet unable to do anything

> about it?.....Any help greatly appreciated....

>

> Nil...do you have any thoughts on this, are you able to take NAC at

> all?

>

> Nell.

[Guest guest]

Hi Bill...

That's what I've been trying but eveything I take knocks me for

six...I feel stuck in a catch 22 situation....any ideas on how to get

the levels down without making myself so much worse?????...

Thanks,

Nell.

> > Can anyone help my muddled brain here...I have been going around

in

> > circles for days reading firstly that NAC is good for glutathione

> > conjugation and helping removing mercury...then I find evidence

> > totally disputing this and saying the exact opposite.

> >

> > I have mercury poisoning and very bad MCS, I have a hard time

> > tolerating anything at all, especially the whey, I need something

> to

> > help glutathione and my liver, I thought the NAC sounded like

just

> > what I needed, now I am totally confused....

> >

> > Does anyone know if it is safe to take NAC if you have mercury

> > problems? (my fillings have been removed)....and how do you break

> out

> > of this viscious circle of being toxic yet unable to do anything

> > about it?.....Any help greatly appreciated....

> >

> > Nil...do you have any thoughts on this, are you able to take NAC

at

> > all?

> >

> > Nell.

[Guest guest]

Nell,

I have not tried it but I thought anything which will increase the load on

my liver will adversely effect my general health and I

stopped doing anything on this subject.I can not even take Vit C at this

point.My liver must be in real bad shape. I tried taking Chlorella for a

while but a dosage more than 200 mg makes my brain fog increase.This dosage

is very low but still I can not tolerate it. I just left my body as it is.I

will start trying a liver support supplement some time later than I will

see how I am doing.Meanwhile I will continue my castor oil packs and hot

baths with clay or Epsom salts.(I can tolerate these baths not more than

once a month or so.So,with this speed I am expecting to improve the

condition of my liver within two-three years time:),than I can think of

using mercury detox agents if I am still alive:) )I think we need to be

careful and make good investigation before starting anything. If you prefer

to be on the safe side you may also go on with Epsom baths and castor oil

packs for a while.I don't know what the condition of your liver is. May be

you may want to discuss this subject with an experienced health care

practitioner.

Good luck.

Nil

Re: Totally confused about taking NAC if have

mercury probs...(Nil/anyone)

| nell

|

| this might seem like an oversimplified approach, but why not try to

| get your mercury levels down first, and then attack the glutathione

| problem without having to worry about the potential poisoning.

|

| thanks

| bill

|

|

|

| > Can anyone help my muddled brain here...I have been going around in

| > circles for days reading firstly that NAC is good for glutathione

| > conjugation and helping removing mercury...then I find evidence

| > totally disputing this and saying the exact opposite.

| >

| > I have mercury poisoning and very bad MCS, I have a hard time

| > tolerating anything at all, especially the whey, I need something

| to

| > help glutathione and my liver, I thought the NAC sounded like just

| > what I needed, now I am totally confused....

| >

| > Does anyone know if it is safe to take NAC if you have mercury

| > problems? (my fillings have been removed)....and how do you break

| out

| > of this viscious circle of being toxic yet unable to do anything

| > about it?.....Any help greatly appreciated....

| >

| > Nil...do you have any thoughts on this, are you able to take NAC at

| > all?

| >

| > Nell.

|

|

| This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

|

|

[Guest guest]

Many thanks Nil, I have started the Epsom salts bath which you

recommended and I will look into the castor oil packs also. I am

going to get the comprehensive detox test done though, I've

been " stuck " at this point now for a couple of years and just can't

move forwards....Keep trying things and failing...what keeps me going

is knowing others are the same, thanks for your help :-)

Nell.

> | > Can anyone help my muddled brain here...I have been going

around in

> | > circles for days reading firstly that NAC is good for

glutathione

> | > conjugation and helping removing mercury...then I find evidence

> | > totally disputing this and saying the exact opposite.

> | >

> | > I have mercury poisoning and very bad MCS, I have a hard time

> | > tolerating anything at all, especially the whey, I need

something

> | to

> | > help glutathione and my liver, I thought the NAC sounded like

just

> | > what I needed, now I am totally confused....

> | >

> | > Does anyone know if it is safe to take NAC if you have mercury

> | > problems? (my fillings have been removed)....and how do you

break

> | out

> | > of this viscious circle of being toxic yet unable to do anything

> | > about it?.....Any help greatly appreciated....

> | >

> | > Nil...do you have any thoughts on this, are you able to take

NAC at

> | > all?

> | >

> | > Nell.

> |

> |

> | This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences

with each

> other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any

treatment

> discussed here, please consult your doctor.

> |

> |

[Guest guest]

I know you didn't ask me, but I can answer anyway. It is extremely

difficult to get mercury out. The methods are controversial, it is easy to

make yourself sicker rather than better, etc. And if your glutathione

levels are high, you are much more likely to be able to tolerate the mercury

and the removal. Not to mention probably feel better in the meantime. In

fact, I believe that nobody should have their fillings removed without first

measuring their cysteine and gluathione. In my case, I had proper removal,

but it doesn't help that much because it is common for your body to start

dumping its mercury stores a 1-2 months later. I had been taking whey

protein to raise my glutathione, which was good. BUT I didn't realize that

if your cysteine is high when the body does the mercury dump, the mercury

goes to your brain. Which is exactly what happened to me, and I became so

cognitively impaired I could barely function.

Thanks,

Doris

Re: Totally confused about taking NAC if have

mercury probs...(Nil/anyone)

> nell

>

> this might seem like an oversimplified approach, but why not try to

> get your mercury levels down first, and then attack the glutathione

> problem without having to worry about the potential poisoning.

>

> thanks

> bill

[Guest guest]

Doris...

Thank you for that, I have a feeling that is what may have happened

to me, I didn't have my levels checked before the removal and yes the

dump came big time 2 months on, I am now so mentally tired and foggy

I can barely function....have you since improved and how did you do

this....thanks for the info, it's greatly appreciated...

Nell.

> I know you didn't ask me, but I can answer anyway. It is extremely

> difficult to get mercury out. The methods are controversial, it is

easy to

> make yourself sicker rather than better, etc. And if your

glutathione

> levels are high, you are much more likely to be able to tolerate

the mercury

> and the removal. Not to mention probably feel better in the

meantime. In

> fact, I believe that nobody should have their fillings removed

without first

> measuring their cysteine and gluathione. In my case, I had proper

removal,

> but it doesn't help that much because it is common for your body to

start

> dumping its mercury stores a 1-2 months later. I had been taking

whey

> protein to raise my glutathione, which was good. BUT I didn't

realize that

> if your cysteine is high when the body does the mercury dump, the

mercury

> goes to your brain. Which is exactly what happened to me, and I

became so

> cognitively impaired I could barely function.

>

> Thanks,

> Doris

> Re: Totally confused about taking NAC

if have

> mercury probs...(Nil/anyone)

>

>

> > nell

> >

> > this might seem like an oversimplified approach, but why not try

to

> > get your mercury levels down first, and then attack the

glutathione

> > problem without having to worry about the potential poisoning.

> >

> > thanks

> > bill

[Guest guest]

nell

my DR wants to bring down my Aluminum levels and he said that it is

the same treatment to bring down mercury. we, however, haven't

discussed what the treatment is yet.

i will definitely post it when he gets to it.

thanks

bill

PS - i know this has been discussed before, but what is the reason

why you can't just take L-glutathione (hydrogenated) supplementation

for low glutathione levels? why do you have to do it indirectly

through lipoic acid and NAC and undenatured whey?

> > I know you didn't ask me, but I can answer anyway. It is

extremely

> > difficult to get mercury out. The methods are controversial, it

is

> easy to

> > make yourself sicker rather than better, etc. And if your

> glutathione

> > levels are high, you are much more likely to be able to tolerate

> the mercury

> > and the removal. Not to mention probably feel better in the

> meantime. In

> > fact, I believe that nobody should have their fillings removed

> without first

> > measuring their cysteine and gluathione. In my case, I had

proper

> removal,

> > but it doesn't help that much because it is common for your body

to

> start

> > dumping its mercury stores a 1-2 months later. I had been taking

> whey

> > protein to raise my glutathione, which was good. BUT I didn't

> realize that

> > if your cysteine is high when the body does the mercury dump, the

> mercury

> > goes to your brain. Which is exactly what happened to me, and I

> became so

> > cognitively impaired I could barely function.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Doris

> > Re: Totally confused about taking

NAC

> if have

> > mercury probs...(Nil/anyone)

> >

> >

> > > nell

> > >

> > > this might seem like an oversimplified approach, but why not

try

> to

> > > get your mercury levels down first, and then attack the

> glutathione

> > > problem without having to worry about the potential poisoning.

> > >

> > > thanks

> > > bill

[Guest guest]

The only thing that worked at all were B12 shots, and I could notice the

difference from the first shot. All the info on Cheney's B12 protocol is in

the archives, but if you need it let me know..

Thanks,

Doris

----- Original Message -----

From: " nell_uk2002 " <nell_uk2002@...>

> Doris...

>

> Thank you for that, I have a feeling that is what may have happened

> to me, I didn't have my levels checked before the removal and yes the

> dump came big time 2 months on, I am now so mentally tired and foggy

> I can barely function....have you since improved and how did you do

> this....thanks for the info, it's greatly appreciated...

>

> Nell.

[Guest guest]

Your body breaks down the glutathione as it goes through your intestinal

tract. You need it in the cells and you can't get there by taking a pill.

Some have said that shots works though.

Thanks,

Doris

----- Original Message -----

From: " winsomme " <winsomme@...>

> PS - i know this has been discussed before, but what is the reason

> why you can't just take L-glutathione (hydrogenated) supplementation

> for low glutathione levels? why do you have to do it indirectly

> through lipoic acid and NAC and undenatured whey?

[Guest guest]

Nell,

Dr. Quig of Doctors Data Laboratories, who specializes in

heavy metal toxicity, has written that NAC is helpful for mercury

detox, but that its dose should be limited to 300 mg per day, and it

should be taken together with a high-quality protein diet if a

person is high in mercury, in order to prevent moving mercury into

the brain.

Rich

> Can anyone help my muddled brain here...I have been going around

in

> circles for days reading firstly that NAC is good for glutathione

> conjugation and helping removing mercury...then I find evidence

> totally disputing this and saying the exact opposite.

>

> I have mercury poisoning and very bad MCS, I have a hard time

> tolerating anything at all, especially the whey, I need something

to

> help glutathione and my liver, I thought the NAC sounded like just

> what I needed, now I am totally confused....

>

> Does anyone know if it is safe to take NAC if you have mercury

> problems? (my fillings have been removed)....and how do you break

out

> of this viscious circle of being toxic yet unable to do anything

> about it?.....Any help greatly appreciated....

>

> Nil...do you have any thoughts on this, are you able to take NAC

at

> all?

>

> Nell.