Lobelia inflata tincture- Mechanism?

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Sorry not having been able to post. Am trying...

mjh,

Being Cherokee Indian, I remember my grandmother

telling of so many herbs that the tribes used. 35

years ago were still able to obtain some. Now so many

have been irrdicated/prohibited by the FDA. But yet

the FDA allows MSG, toxic metals, molds, etc in our

foods and meds. Sent a couple of the so called

diazepam tabs I had to a friend who works at quality

control at a pharmaceutical company I worked at. Was

suppose to be 10 mg. Sheesh, he got the true amt. Was

3.8 mg.

If I remember right, posted I supposed had MS, CFS,

MCS, fibro, RA, Lupus, possible lymes, MVP. Docs

can't come up with a reason for something, either

blame it on one thing or the other. And also suffer

from seizures.

I remember her telling of Lobelia inflata. She was

still able to get it from the reservation. And smoked

it. More info on it below.

ag

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http://www.umm.edu/altmed/ConsHerbs/Lobeliach.html#Overview

Lobelia (Lobelia inflata), also called Indian tobacco,

has a long history of use as an herbal remedy for

respiratory ailments such as asthma, bronchitis,

pneumonia, and cough. Native Americans historically

smoked lobelia as a treatment for asthma. In the 19th

century, American physicians prescribed lobelia to

induce vomiting in order remove toxins from the body.

Because of this, it earned the name " puke weed. "

Today, lobelia is considered an effective expectorant,

meaning that it helps clear mucus from the respiratory

tract. Although few studies have thoroughly evaluated

the safety and effectiveness of lobelia, some

herbalists today incorporate lobelia into a

comprehensive treatment plan for asthma.

An active ingredient in the lobelia plant, lobeline,

is similar to nicotine in its effect on the body. Like

nicotine, it stimulates nerves in the central nervous

system. In fact, lobeline has been used as a nicotine

substitute in many anti-smoking products and

preparations designed to break the smoking habit. In

1993, however, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration

(FDA) prohibited the sale of lobeline-containing

smoking products because, according to the FDA report,

they lacked effectiveness in helping people quit or

reduce smoking.

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> Before my brain was fried by CFIDS I could have told

> you the mechanism of

> Lobelia inflata tincture beyond that as an

> antispasmotic.

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> I used about 1/2 dropper, 8 drops, sublingually and

> massaged another 8 drops

> into C1-C2/base of the skull.

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> TIme and time again, it worked within two to three

> minutes to stop the gran

> mals.

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> It had gotten to the point where 30 to 40 mgs of

> diazepam were not bringing

> the multiple gran mals under control. So, I had to

> find other means.

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> But, Lobelia inflata is not for casual use as are so

> very many other herbs

> my like sweet antiviral officinalis

> tincture.

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> Hope this helps

> mjh

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> In a message dated 1/13/2006 9:05:05 PM Eastern

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> jschaller@... writes:

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> Any idea on the basic mechanism? A simple

> hypothesis is fine if close and

> handy?

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> mjh

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