Stealth infections/Labs/glutathione delivery

January 14, 2006

Hi, .

Welcome to the group!

On the Lyme testing, I think you must be referring to Igenex. We

have discussed the various tests here before, and I think people are

in agreement with what you've said.

Even with Igenex testing, though, I think there can be false

negatives. It's just a tough bug to detect when it goes

intracellular.

On the glutathione, we have discussed a variety of ways to build

it. In my next message, I will post an update of the summary I

posted a while back. I think you're actually featured in it!

On the Lyme culture medium, I'm glad you found the information

helpful.

Again, welcome, and I hope you enjoy the discussions here.

Rich

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> Just some small thoughts:

>

> 1) Lyme disease and CFS.... The symptoms overlap considerably and

even the best of the lab tests do not have the sensitivity and

selectivity we would all like to see.

>

> ***One issue here is strains AND the search protiens. The key is

the strains should not be for European forms or just found in CT--

wish a joke--that will allow even STARI or Master's Disease to show

up positive. Then you harvest the Lyme at different days since

different protiens are expressed--like what a 2 y/o, 6 y/o 15 y/o

and 50 y/o person wears. One lab does this so not only all key

strains are present but also so equal amounts. One CLIA Medicare and

Medicaid approved lab does this. (No, I am not a part owner ....)

>

> 2) I am of the firm view that in at least a large subset of CFS

there is glutathione depletion.

>

> ***Folks using inhaled or sublingual USP forms from compounders

after viens are tired?

>

> 3) This is very interesting! Great info!

>

> (PMID 1477785) First, in in vitro experiments it has been found

> that the growth of Borrelia burgdorferi (Bb), the bacterium that

> causes Lyme disease, in the culture medium is decreased by 80% if

> cysteine is not present in the culture medium...... Etc

>

> Thanks for references. Media issues with Lyme have been so very

complex.

>

January 14, 2006

Rich,

You are fun.

Yes, IGeneX.......

1) We entirely ignore the typical reading approach and opt for the Dr.

species specific proteins--just one is a positive.

http://www.personalconsult.com/articles/drjonesapproach.html

2) One concern is that while Lyme causes false negatives 27 ways, I worry other

things missed like mycoplasma, mycotoxins (30% of USA homes), etc.....

3) The Lyme culture data was fantastic information.

Thanks,

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