Re: Re: Is Babesia, impedence cardio

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Hello Steve (long time!)

I agree with you re babesia being out of reach of our immune cells sequestered

away in the endothelium of blood vessels.

I use nattokinase which, when taken on an empty stomach, will hopefully help

disolve some of the excess fibrin (and maybe fibrin deposits), thus exposing

more pathogens to the immune system. After only a few days I get dreadful

headaches especially if I am on antibabesial treatment (including artemisinin).

In fact the headaches are so bad i have not yet been able to continue for any

decent length of time. I feel the combo nattokinase + anti-infective treatment

(of your choice, depending on your own theorised infectious cocktail) would

help, provided you can stick it out for long enough.

Have you tried other things that would help more blood to reach sequestered

sites? I am thinking both blood thinning substances or vasodilating substances,

the latter being a double edge sword as if you are vasodilating, bloodflow will

slow down, and blood could eveneven pool in some blood vessels, and that is not

good at all for dislodging pathogens that may be trying to cling to the walls of

your blood vessels (the way babesias and rickettias like to do).

The niacin flush (for which Ken used to have a special fondness) might be

interesting because of the transient nature of the flush (as opposed to say

gingko biloba for eg), as you might get a rush of blood loaded with immune cells

and anti-infective substances, to various sequestered sites without a constant

slowing down of the bloodflow through constant vasodilation.

And BTW, if the bugs (especially babesia) are instrumental in mucking up one's

autonomic system, we are stuck in yet another very neat vicious circle, aren't

we?

What is the easiest way to break the circle? Fix the faulty autonomic

functioning, albeit temporarily (how?), or do we try and get a better blood

spupply to where the pathogens are hiding (how?)?

What do people think?

Nelly

Re: Re: Is Babesia, impedence cardio

I think that part of the reason we have trouble eliminating babesia is due to

the fact that about half of us have reduced cardiac output. I don't think our

hearts are able to pump the mepron, etc. completely through our vascular system

and organs. I recently got an impedence cardiography test by Dr. Kleid in San

Diego (smart guy - has written 12 medical textbooks and at least one was on

cardiography). My supine CO was 5.1 and after standing it dropped to 3.7

litres/minute and stayed there for 10 minutes (difficult to stand this long).

Kleid doesn't think we have diastolic cardiomyopathy as Cheney has theorized; he

thinks the core of our illness lies in autonomic dysfunction. Maybe the

impaired microcirculation Cheney talks about is causing the ANS dysfunction? I

was on artemesinin for 6 weeks then mepron and azithro for 3 months last summer

and was much weaker initially then after about a month I was back to baseline

and stayed there the last two months. Maybe I should have

stayed on the stuff longer but this is what my lyme doc recommended. First

time back on list in a while and I was very sorry to hear of Bob H's and

B's deaths. Steve B.