Re: Question for Rich or his wife about MCS

[Guest guest]

Hi Jill,

> The manufacturer, DAP, would only tell me the two OSHA

> labelled hazardous ingredients and said they were not required by law

> to tell me any of the other ingredients!!!!

Did you see this, in today's paper?

State Sues E.P.A. for Files on Household Pollutants

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/15/nyregion/15emissions.html

" ...the Environmental Protection Agency is refusing to turn over

records detailing the levels of smog-causing compounds found in common

household and industrial products like paints and varnishes...In

refusing to turn over the records, the E.P.A. appears to be siding with

paint manufacturers... "

They should re-name the agency! (You can guess what name.)

I'll be trying to find out what chemicals were in the Redken products

used on my daughter's hair, and I'll bet I have the same problem.

Sue ,

Upstate New York

[Guest guest]

Unbelievable, eh?

Or not.

We just have to make our own choices, and I really learned a lesson on

this one. I already use organic laundry detergent, unscented shampoo,

coconut oil as a moisturizer (virgin), bronner's soap for my hands. I

use softscrub for most of my cleaning (with bleach). I tend to buy

used furniture because in NY there's a big market in really nice

stuff, sometimes antique, that people sell because its a town with

lots of people moving in and out, and besides, used furniture doesn't

offgas. THe same with mattresses, I think its better to buy a really

nice, high-end mattress that's a year old from some exec who was only

here short-term or is moving to the suburbs, than a new one that

outgasses whatever. Even if its below your radar of smelling or

thinking you're reacting to it, its better to try and be on the safe side.

BTW there was a nice op ed in the NY Times today or yesterday about

how healthy whole milk is. Vitamins A and D are in it naturally, in

the fat itself, and the fat is needed to absorb them. It said the myth

that milk is bad for you is just that. However, I know that

homogenizing cow's milk IS bad for you as the globules are bad for

your heart. But raw milk is good fo ryou. Yesterday I went to pick up

my raw milk order (there is a collective here, ordering from different

farms that deliver organic, raw dairy, cheeses, eggs, and grass fed

meats) and I asked my cab driver if he would wait while I ran in to

get the stuff. A woman was standing there with about six bags of stuff

herself and I said, " Don't take my cab from me! " But she was going to

the neighborhood I live in so then I said, oh sure, come with me. I

came back out and at first the cabbie said, " Hey, I'm not a livery

service " but then she offered him very good $ and I said I'd tip him

well and the 3 of us ended up in a coversatin about healthy food. He

cured himself of hypoglycemia eating healthy, organic foods etc. She

eats her eggs raw, in a milkshake/blender. She picks up this stuff

every single week (which means different spots in manhattan and

brooklyn). He had raw eggs as a kid himself. As he noted, you have to

research stuff yourself. I don't know how I got so off track on the

subject just now except I literally ate 2 entire quarts of the raw

yogurt today. It feels different, the milk and yogurt, it feels as if

nothing in my body could react to it. That's a true live, healthy

food. It feels as if it has light and energy in it.

Meanwhile I washed all my crapola again! Well, that's enough. The

comforter has been washed and dried 3x and the cover 5x. I mean, what

else can I do? I think its got to be safe by now. I can't smell

anything on it.

>

> Hi Jill,

>

> > The manufacturer, DAP, would only tell me the two OSHA

> > labelled hazardous ingredients and said they were not required by law

> > to tell me any of the other ingredients!!!!

>

> Did you see this, in today's paper?

>

> State Sues E.P.A. for Files on Household Pollutants

> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/15/nyregion/15emissions.html

>

> " ...the Environmental Protection Agency is refusing to turn over

> records detailing the levels of smog-causing compounds found in common

> household and industrial products like paints and varnishes...In

> refusing to turn over the records, the E.P.A. appears to be siding with

> paint manufacturers... "

>

> They should re-name the agency! (You can guess what name.)

>

> I'll be trying to find out what chemicals were in the Redken products

> used on my daughter's hair, and I'll bet I have the same problem.

>

> Sue ,

> Upstate New York

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Jill.

Maybe you have resolved all this by now, but I did ask my wife. She

said she has not had this exact same experience, but that her

opinion is that if a person with MCS thinks that something is

bothering them, it most likely is, and they should take it seriously.

Rich

> >

> > Hi Jill,

> >

> > > The manufacturer, DAP, would only tell me the two OSHA

> > > labelled hazardous ingredients and said they were not required

by law

> > > to tell me any of the other ingredients!!!!

> >

> > Did you see this, in today's paper?

> >

> > State Sues E.P.A. for Files on Household Pollutants

> > http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/15/nyregion/15emissions.html

> >

> > " ...the Environmental Protection Agency is refusing to turn over

> > records detailing the levels of smog-causing compounds found in

common

> > household and industrial products like paints and varnishes...In

> > refusing to turn over the records, the E.P.A. appears to be

siding with

> > paint manufacturers... "

> >

> > They should re-name the agency! (You can guess what name.)

> >

> > I'll be trying to find out what chemicals were in the Redken

products

> > used on my daughter's hair, and I'll bet I have the same problem.

> >

> > Sue ,

> > Upstate New York

> >

>

[Guest guest]

THanx Rich. I'm kind of a betwixt and betweener tho. Lyme can make you

feel cruddy-----in so many ways. So it is hard to distinguish that

fatigue, or malaise, or stuffed head or whatever, from what could be

very subtle MCS type reaction. Since I tolerate hair dye every 3

weeks, windex, perfume etc and many things that MCSer's don't, I'm

really beginning to be convinced I'm having a psychological reaction

or else there's something else going on (like...I've had a few leaks

and I don't think I have mold but you never know). I will say I

usually notice when I'm in moldy enviornments because I get a certain

kind of fatigue. For years I noticed it in the Santa Fe library, and

eventually the workers there, some of them were sick from mold and the

library had to remediate. I also used to notice it in ABC Carpet, a

high end huge, many story carpet and luxury furniture store. Old

" fine " wool carpets can be moldy.

I've washed that comforter cover so many times what could be left?

Well, I'm just going to try to ignore the idea for now. I'm still

fixing up the big bedroom and not using it. I *will* stay out of that

for at least 6 months.

>

> Hi, Jill.

>

> Maybe you have resolved all this by now, but I did ask my wife. She

> said she has not had this exact same experience, but that her

> opinion is that if a person with MCS thinks that something is

> bothering them, it most likely is, and they should take it seriously.

>

>